View Full Version : Fabric on the Walls - How to Finish the Drywall?


carboranadum
07-01-08, 11:59 AM
I have completed the drywall in the theater and I'm ready to begin mudding and taping the walls. I'll be doing fabric treatments on the wall from the floor to the bottom of the soffits.

How do I finish the drywall in the room? I know I need to mud and tape the sides of the soffits and the ceiling, but do I need to finish the walls? Did you cover the screwheads and put a first coat of mud and tape up? Did you sinifh the inside corners between the wall and the bottom of the soffits? Did you primer the walls (that will ultimately be under the treatments)?

Thank you for the help.

CJ

mn_hokie
07-01-08, 12:11 PM
It's my understanding that all that is needed is a rough sanding of the joints.

Cathan
07-01-08, 12:14 PM
I plan on only doing a rough finish and then primering. I think primer is required to pass inspection. Besides, you may want to darken (paint) the walls so white doesn't bleed through the edges. I am not planning on paying someone to finish the theater walls, but will pay them to do the ceiling.

BIGmouthinDC
07-01-08, 12:15 PM
I paid someone to tape and mud my entire basement because at the time the WAF wasn't on board with the fabric concept.

Knowing now. I would tape and mud the walls at least one/two coats with no sanding. It helps to have a nice flat surface for furring strips at the seams rather then unfilled tapered seams. I would use acoustical caulk to fill the wall to soffit gap and call it a day. Being me I would give it a coat of primer to "seal" the mud and the wall assembly.

BIGmouthinDC
07-01-08, 12:18 PM
I think primer is required to pass inspection.


There is no inspection after close-in and before fabric unless you want to get your final before totally finishing the room.

What they can't see they can't inspect.

pmeyer
07-01-08, 12:26 PM
I went ahead and did normal mudding/taping/texturing to the whole room. I knew I wanted to seal the seams of the drywall (both layers). I'm also going to paint to match my GOM so that I can put my panels up over time and the room will still look good. Also, there are some spots near the entrance where there won't be treatment.

One consideration for me was resale. I would love for somebody to come in, love my HT, and be willing to pay $30k extra just to get it. However, if somebody is looking to buy the house and the wife wants another bedroom, I want them to be able to picture that room as a non-HT without too much in the way of contractors, $$, etc. Having normal textured/painted drywall under the wall treatments helps in that direction.

Of course, my false screen wall sort of scrubs that idea, but consistency is overrated.

Cathan
07-01-08, 12:27 PM
There is no inspection after close-in and before fabric unless you want to get your final before totally finishing the room.

What they can't see they can't inspect.

True.

carboranadum
07-01-08, 01:26 PM
Thanks for all of the responses.

I figured I'd go ahead and do the first coat or two of mud and taping. I was even thinking of primering with a dark color for bleed through.

I want to get the walls primered so I can get the inspections done before I go crazy with wall treatments, riser, stage, etc.

Thanks again.

CJ

carboranadum
07-01-08, 01:39 PM
How long does it take the GOM folks to ship samples? I ordered some three weeks ago and they are still not here.

What experience have others had?

CJ

BIGmouthinDC
07-01-08, 01:48 PM
How long does it take the GOM folks to ship samples? I ordered some three weeks ago and they are still not here.

What experience have others had?

CJ


One week max, you did order on-line from the GOM web site?

BIGmouthinDC
07-01-08, 01:54 PM
I want to get the walls primered so I can get the inspections done before I go crazy with wall treatments, riser, stage, etc.
CJ

If you ask for the final before the carpet is in there may be a special requirement for all of your outlets. They will expect them to be protected similar to those in wet areas.

At least that is what my inspector told me.

tlogan6797
07-01-08, 01:57 PM
My plan is to partially fabric the walls. I'm figuring on mudding and sanding behind where the fabric will go just to practice. And rattling around in the back of my brain was the same idea that if I (or someone who buys later) wants to redo it, it will be substantially complete.

Looks like you're moving right along.

Tom

Cathan
07-01-08, 02:40 PM
If you ask for the final before the carpet is in there may be a special requirement for all of your outlets. They will expect them to be protected similar to those in wet areas.

At least that is what my inspector told me.

In Fairfax that is not the case. I was told last week that they just want to have the concrete and walls have a layer of paint on them. No requirement for "finished" floors.

tlogan6797
07-01-08, 03:04 PM
OOOooo...same county, different interpretations. Which is worse, that, or Brit's problem with the SAME inspector UN-approving something at a later inspection?

tbain
07-01-08, 03:10 PM
I love that there are so many No Va build threads -- I live in Fairfax/Tysons area. I'm way behind where you guys are (still framing) and it's more of a media/multi-purpose room than a dedicated theater. Nonetheless, I'm utilizing many of the construction techniques recommended in this forum for soundproofing, decoupling, etc ...

BIGmouthinDC
07-01-08, 03:14 PM
I love that there are so many No Va build threads --

Either directly or indirectly it is your tax dollars at work.

Kevin_Wadsworth
07-01-08, 03:42 PM
Queation at hand - my plan was to just caulk the seams behind the fabric to save some labor on taping. But I hired out the drywall and the contractor forgot to tell the laborers, so it ended up mudded and taped anyway.

I wouldn't worry about dark primer for color bleed-through. you won't be able to tell through the fabric.

My GOM samples also came quickly (<1 week). I've read of other people who didn't get theirs, and they simply reordered without a problem.

Cathan
07-01-08, 04:02 PM
I love that there are so many No Va build threads -- I live in Fairfax/Tysons area. I'm way behind where you guys are (still framing) and it's more of a media/multi-purpose room than a dedicated theater. Nonetheless, I'm utilizing many of the construction techniques recommended in this forum for soundproofing, decoupling, etc ...

The good news is that you keep the same inspector during the entire project in Fairfax - each has a set territory. So in theory, you should get the same answer when you ask about these sort of issue from the same person.

carboranadum
07-01-08, 04:02 PM
One week max, you did order on-line from the GOM web site?

Yes. I sent them an email about it. I thought that folks on this board got their samples quickly.

CJ

carboranadum
07-01-08, 04:03 PM
The good news is that you keep the same inspector during the entire project in Fairfax - each has a set territory. So in theory, you should get the same answer when you ask about these sort of issue from the same person.

Out here in the country, we'ze only got one of them there a fancy inspectors, so we'll see Bob each time we need to get it a looked at.

:rolleyes:

CJ

carboranadum
07-01-08, 04:06 PM
If you ask for the final before the carpet is in there may be a special requirement for all of your outlets. They will expect them to be protected similar to those in wet areas.

At least that is what my inspector told me.

I asked when I got the close-in inspection done. My inspector told me that he wanted primer on the walls, doors and plumbing fixtures in, and electrical in place. He didn't need trim up, carpet on, or final paint.

I'm in Frederick county.

CJ

carboranadum
07-01-08, 04:08 PM
Either directly or indirectly it is your tax dollars at work.

Not here. I work for a non-profit (Sprint lost 30 billion dollars last year).

CJ

BIGmouthinDC
07-01-08, 04:54 PM
Not here. I work for a non-profit (Sprint lost 30 billion dollars last year).
CJ


Monster.com

Glimmie
07-01-08, 05:35 PM
I think primer is required to pass inspection.

That is true depending on your local codes. My HT was signed off as an empty room with only the main platform installed. I decided to keep the HT finish-out off permit. The inspector did however require the wall be primed or painted.

Why? Well I asked. Unfinished drywall is not permitted in habited spaces as the dust flakes off and is considered a health hazard. A garage or attic is not considered a habited space and unfinished drywall is OK there.

I am on Los Angeles county (outside of LA city juristiction).

carboranadum
07-01-08, 06:25 PM
Monster.com

Tell me about it.

We're finally turning around, and my operating unit is being spun off to merge with Clearwire. Should be a wonderful rest of the year.

CJ

BIGmouthinDC
07-01-08, 08:47 PM
Merge is often a time for elimination of redundant positions. Trust no one, be extremely cooperative and supportive of the merger but do some looking around just in case.

carboranadum
07-01-08, 09:17 PM
Merge is often a time for elimination of redundant positions. Trust no one, be extremely cooperative and supportive of the merger but do some looking around just in case.

Thanks for the advice. Been through a couple of big mergers including the mega Sprint/Nextel merger of nearly three years ago (I was on the Nextel side). I HATE mergers, as it often times causes folks to lose sight of the customer and the service we are purported to provide. We are still reaping the benefits of the last merger.

As always, Jeff, you're advice is spot on.

CJ

Brian D
07-01-08, 11:29 PM
I am sure I can find it on here easily enough if people are busy... but just wondering what website people are getting the GOM samples from.

Thanks!

tlogan6797
07-02-08, 09:15 AM
I HATE mergers, as it often times causes folks to lose sight of the customer and the service we are purported to provide. We are still reaping the benefits of the last merger.

The easy way to tell which company "wins" in a merger is to look at who will be president of the new company.

Tom

carboranadum
07-04-08, 11:05 PM
I am sure I can find it on here easily enough if people are busy... but just wondering what website people are getting the GOM samples from.

Thanks!

Why the GOM website of course. ;)

http://www.guilfordofmaine.com/

Click on SAMPLE CENTER on the top of the page.

I ordered a bunch of samples a few weeks ago and never received them I emailed them and they said that couldn't find my order. I ended up asking for a sample of them all. They are sending me what they call a "binder". Apparently this contains the works.

CJ

Brian D
07-10-08, 12:21 AM
Thanks! I have been so busy I forgot I asked for this info, until I started looking for it again. :rolleyes: