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MarcoAD 07-07-08, 07:52 PM I don't know if anyone is as excited as I am for this game but I figured I'd start the official post so that folks can line up online games and discuss anything related.
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deedubbadoo 07-08-08, 11:57 AM I have been looking into this, I have never played a Civilization game before, but this really seems to have caught my eye. It is turn-based correct?
alpha21 07-08-08, 12:06 PM I've had the game for about a week; I imported from the UK
still yet to play an MP game, since not many are on yet.
my GT is in my sig
by the way, what took so long to get an official thread for this title? limited interest??
superklye 07-08-08, 12:19 PM I have been looking into this, I have never played a Civilization game before, but this really seems to have caught my eye. It is turn-based correct?
Yes. Download the demo and give it a try. It's an absolute blast. I'm about 70% sure I'm going to pick this up today over UT3...
I swung by Gamestop, and they're not expecting them until tomorrow. In the meantime, here's the list of bonuses if you buy the game from the specified retailer in the first shipment:
GameStop/EB Canada:
Xbox 360 and PS3: Pack-in card redeemable online for a Voucher or Token code for Wonder & Artifact Pack: The Mythic. Included are: Ancient Wonder: Lighthouse of Alexandria, Medieval Wonder: Leaning Tower of Pisa, Industrial Wonder: Scotland Yard, Modern Wonder: SETI, Artifact 1: Camelot, Artifact 2: Tower of Babel
Target:
Xbox 360: Pack-in card redeemable online for a Token code for Wonder & Artifact Pack: The Eternal. Includes the following Wonders and Artifacts: Ancient - Trajan's Column, Medieval - University of Sankore, Industrial - Eiffel Tower, Modern - Cristo Redentor, Artifact 1 - Pharoah's Needle, Artifact 2 - Tesla's "Peace" Ray
Best Buy (US and Canada):
Xbox 360 and PS3: Pack-in card redeemable online for a Voucher or Token code for Wonder & Artifact Pack: The Iconic. Includes the following Wonders and Artifacts: Ancient - Coliseum, Medieval - Taj Mahal, Industrial - Statue of Liberty, Modern - Sydney Opera House, Artifact 1 - Terracotta Army, Artifact 2 -Sphinx
Circuit City:
All platforms: Aiden Hughes Lincoln poster, 16X20, folded
alpha21 07-08-08, 12:49 PM Circuit City:
All platforms: Aiden Hughes Lincoln poster, 16X20, foldedhere's what the poster looks like, for those interested...
http://www.civilizationrevolution.com/community/aidan/abe.jpg
The Sapient 07-08-08, 03:03 PM I swung by Gamestop, and they're not expecting them until tomorrow. In the meantime, here's the list of bonuses if you buy the game from the specified retailer in the first shipment:
GameStop/EB Canada:
Xbox 360 and PS3: Pack-in card redeemable online for a Voucher or Token code for Wonder & Artifact Pack: The Mythic. Included are: Ancient Wonder: Lighthouse of Alexandria, Medieval Wonder: Leaning Tower of Pisa, Industrial Wonder: Scotland Yard, Modern Wonder: SETI, Artifact 1: Camelot, Artifact 2: Tower of Babel
Target:
Xbox 360: Pack-in card redeemable online for a Token code for Wonder & Artifact Pack: The Eternal. Includes the following Wonders and Artifacts: Ancient - Trajan's Column, Medieval - University of Sankore, Industrial - Eiffel Tower, Modern - Cristo Redentor, Artifact 1 - Pharoah's Needle, Artifact 2 - Tesla's "Peace" Ray
Best Buy (US and Canada):
Xbox 360 and PS3: Pack-in card redeemable online for a Voucher or Token code for Wonder & Artifact Pack: The Iconic. Includes the following Wonders and Artifacts: Ancient - Coliseum, Medieval - Taj Mahal, Industrial - Statue of Liberty, Modern - Sydney Opera House, Artifact 1 - Terracotta Army, Artifact 2 -Sphinx
Circuit City:
All platforms: Aiden Hughes Lincoln poster, 16X20, folded
I'm excited for this game, but disappointed they excluded Wonders and Artifacts from the game that they had ready at launch.
CloudKind 07-08-08, 04:00 PM I would like to know how you apply workers to specific tasks?
alpha21 07-08-08, 04:13 PM I would like to know how you apply workers to specific tasks?which "tasks"?
I use Custom on all cities.
here's what the poster looks like, for those interested...
http://www.civilizationrevolution.com/community/aidan/abe.jpg
Is it just me, or does that have a very "Soviet" feel to it? I love it, but it makes me feel like I'm living in the "workers paradise"
Should have used Ron Paul instead of Abe
Can't wait to pick this up after work. I just about burnt myself out of the demo
alpha21 07-08-08, 05:07 PM are you connected? if not, you may want to call ahead, I don't believe it's on shelves today :(
Really? Why's that, a delay? I'll call ahead for sure. GameCrazy is pretty good about getting them on time
alpha21 07-08-08, 05:24 PM not sure
I know Amazon says the 10th, and many others have said not until the 9th
bah, that's lame. I just called gamecrazy and they said tomorrow. That sucks. I'm moving on Thursday and probably won't get any quality time with this until next week
superklye 07-09-08, 03:27 PM Anyone get their copy from Gamestop today? I haven't called yet because something came up at work and we've all had to work like mad through lunch (when I was going to go) and probably won't get there until 7 tonight now.
Just curious if they were in or if I should still call and make sure...
alpha21 07-09-08, 03:34 PM I'd still call first
Amazon said 7/11 this morning, now says IN STOCK
superklye 07-09-08, 05:00 PM w00t! it was in! :D
speavler 07-09-08, 06:45 PM I'm curious - is this more like Civ IV or Civ III?
dezertrat 07-09-08, 07:24 PM never played III, but from the demo it seemed very close to IV
MarcoAD 07-09-08, 09:32 PM Picked mine up today but you can't redeem the code just yet. The website is saying that the downloadable content will be available later this month and to hold on to your voucher.
The Sapient 07-09-08, 11:32 PM My local Target didn't have it in as of this evening. And I had the house to myself for 4 hours too. :(
FootballDen 07-10-08, 07:55 AM Played it from 9pm (kids bed time0 tile 4 pm (youngest ones feeding time) Its awesome. Anyone interested in playing tonight sometime after 9? Im in gamer tag is SHAKA94
FootballDen 07-10-08, 07:56 AM Played it from 9pm (kids bed time) TILL 4 AM youngest ones feeding time) Its awesome. Anyone interested in playing tonight sometime after 9? Im in gamer tag is SHAKA94
markc72 07-10-08, 09:28 AM It's funny how this and Battlefield were not on my list to buy. I get Battlefield after playing the demo and love it. Tried the demo a little more with Civ, I buy it and absolutely love it! I played on the easiest setting and finished up a Culture victory in one sitting :). Had problems with attacking other Civs, but had a blast playing it. I highly recommend this game for just about anyone. It will be more fun playing online with our gaming community from here and at syndicatedgaming.net. Check us out as we are a adult/mature gaming group.
WilliamR 07-10-08, 01:51 PM Okay guys, do you think this game would appeal to someone who has never played a strategy game like this before (i.e. control army units, build cities, etc.)? I hear so many good things about this game I am really interrested in it. Also, do you get to eventually get to a state of advanced technology (i.e. outer space)?
alpha21 07-10-08, 02:09 PM I'd never played any game of this type before, I love it!!! but, it's my kinda game, might not be your's.
you research tech, that allows you to build buildings/armies/wonders. one of the victory conditions is Science. you need to research Space Fight, and build 4 piece that need to launch to a Space Station. once all 4 pieces are connected to the SS, you launch it to Alpha Centari. it takes a few years until it reaches the planet, so you fend off your opponents until it does.
if you're asking if there are space battles, the answer is no
markc72 07-10-08, 02:31 PM I kind of look at it as a board game ala Risk and Monopoly. If you like those games, you should like this. Give it a rent. You can finish a game in approximately 3 hours. I didn't like the computer version because I felt is was to much work and there was more micromanagement. This game has been toned down more for the console group.
If you go down the technology path, you have the push to be first toward Alpha Centauri.
Fun game. Didn't think I'd like it, but they've toned down all the micro-management from PC games like this. I'm digging it although I suspect it will take me awhile to learn everything. Won my first match on the easiest setting without much trouble. Looking forward to moving up in difficulty and eventually playing online against some friends.
FootballDen 07-11-08, 08:46 AM I thought it was going to be like the computer game where you ahd to control what EVERY stinking person does in the game. Its great they stripped it down to its meat and potatoes. Im moving up in difficulty so i suspect ilL be online playing sometime next week. Great game lotta fund,definetly get your moneys worth
The Sapient 07-11-08, 10:12 AM I've played past incarnations of Civilization on and off. I played my fist game of Civilization on Warlord last night. I'm assuming it will be more of a challenge at higher levels, as I felt kind of bad killing legions and archers with tanks and artillery. I find the simplification of the game play both good and bad. I don't miss micromanaging workers. I do miss the more gradual ramp up in power. I'm most impressed with the interface. They managed to make the controller so usable that I feel like they could have made the game a notch more complex without it being a problem.
Also, I need to find a way to keep my job, get a few hours of sleep, and play this game all in the same day.
FootballDen 07-13-08, 09:42 AM I agree about keeping the job, ive been up till about 3 am everyday since i got it (i dont work in the summers) hahah. Its roguh the next morning and Im not even drinking!! talk about getting old!
Feel bad!! I love dominating those archer units with bombers hahahaha
I have decided to run through each level starting with chieftan and win each of 4 different types of victories. after i do that then ill take on online play
The Sapient 07-13-08, 11:56 PM I find at the lower levels I end up getting a domination victory just to save time, regardless of how far ahead I am with the other factors. One arm of tanks can just roll from town to town winning the whole thing.
deedubbadoo 07-14-08, 10:58 AM I got this and played through my first run the other night. I know since it was my first time that I was not doing a lot of things right. That being said, I was having a bit of a problem moving forward. I was building buildings and everything but when it came to choosing what to progress, I got a bit confused. Even looking at the "flow chart," I didn't know what to do. I started with Cesar and ended up with a Domination victory. I did save before the last battle and was able to get the Culture victory as well. I guess I am still just a noob at the game but it is very addicting, and time just flies when I am playing.
number1laing 07-14-08, 11:48 AM Anyone try it on DS yet?
Midnight55 07-14-08, 04:16 PM I just got to say that I love this game. I played other Civs on the PC previously, and I think it translates great to the console. I haven't tried Diety yet, in fact I know I will be getting my butt kicked but that is half the fun. :)
WilliamR 07-15-08, 09:00 AM I purchased this game and all I can say is WOW. Holy crap. This is freaking incredible. What a perfect game. So addictive. SOOOO freaking addictive. Not only can you play it multiple ways you can go into the scenerios and play some seriously sweet scenerios that they have set up (I like the one where you start in the future with all technologies already available to you).
Wow, I played the demo and liked it, but I wasn't prepared for the addiction this game brings. I am at work and all I can think about is should I leave early to play!!! :)
ooPAYNEoo 07-15-08, 09:14 AM You guys seem to like this, eh? Think I'll pick it up. Being a Sim City Addict, I've always been curious about Civ. Sounds like my type of game.
The Sapient 07-15-08, 09:34 AM I played my first game on Emperor yesterday. I also lost my first game yesterday. I was still a good 30 turns away from a culture victory when Japan reached Alpha Centuri. It was fun to actually be challenged. I was unable to get more than one new town settled because the AI was constantly attacking me. My only wish is that the AI's would attack each other when it would benefit them.
WilliamR 07-16-08, 10:12 AM Holy crap, I am sooo addicted. I can't stop playing this.
I was going down the technology path and focused totlaly on it. I made peace with everyone, and just focused on building and research. Well, I was close to launching my ship to Alpha Centauri and it was only like 1905. I was getting ready to build the components when I had three civilizations declare war on me. They each launched tons of army units at me, naval fleets, catapults, etc. etc. I was surrounded and all my cities where about to be attacked. So I rushed to build some army units and found that with my technology path I had access to nearly all the advance weaponry already. I was creating battle ships, whole wing squadrons of planes and bombers, and awesome tanks. I spent my 5,000 gold on rushing these all to completion. I then launched my counterattack. It was so freaking lopsided. My tanks and planes rolled through their armies like they were in the stone age. My planes were attacking knights and legions instead of army units. I crushed all attacks on my city then rolled my ninja tanks to their capital city and devastated them in 2 turns. They all begged me to stop and declare peace. Sorry, to late, you started it!! My bombers flew in and wiped out 2 civilizations in 2 turns.
It felt so cool to have so much advanced technology I almost switched to a domination victory instead. However, I surrounded their cities with my armies, I had tanks parked on the boarder of their civilization and I continued to build my space ship and my tanks sitting on their border, keeping a watchful eye on any aggression. I even had an ICBM pointed at India in case they pulled something cleaver on me. Soon my ship launched to Alpha Centauri.
Man, what a freaking awesome game. Love it!!!! Just freaking love it!
FootballDen 07-16-08, 10:32 AM 1905????? I havent beat the game at hte earliest until 2030. ANy suggestions? I would love to see or just get updates that the other sides were attacking each other. I know they declare war on each other, but seeing is believing!!! I need to get a cultural victory on warlord then ill move on to the next level. I havent got my moneys worth out of a game like this in a looooooong time. I too am an addict!
alpha21 07-16-08, 11:55 AM I finally got a Dom victory on Emperor last night. my game went very much like WilliamR described (minus the 1905 part). I could have won by Culture for many turns, but I was so far ahead on Tech, that rolling in with Artillery and able to launch a nuke (at Wash) seemed like more fun. also it was my first one on Emperor, and I now have all four types won on Emperor.
I may be testing the Deity waters very soon!!!
the thing is though, I want to get all four victory types with every Civ on Emperor before I advance to Deity. what makes it tough is that I don't use the save trick (like those lame achievement hoors), and I only use the Random Civ Selector. so, it would take me an eternity to complete that (which is the way I like it). maybe I'll just move to Deity and begin working on it there, and scrap Emperor.
WilliamR 07-16-08, 01:36 PM 1905????? I havent beat the game at hte earliest until 2030. ANy suggestions? I would love to see or just get updates that the other sides were attacking each other. I know they declare war on each other, but seeing is believing!!! I need to get a cultural victory on warlord then ill move on to the next level. I havent got my moneys worth out of a game like this in a looooooong time. I too am an addict!
Technology is the key. Use the technology advisor when it asks which technology you want to research next. It calls up a large map of every tech and the tree it takes to get to a certain point. Use the one analog stick to move around and pick a technology, it then shows you all that is connected to it that you have to have before you can pick that tech. Use the stick to look around again to see which ones you still need (the ones you have are highlighted). It really helps to look at what you need.
If you have multiple cities, make sure you focus each city to do something special, like manage workers in each city to focus on making gold, one to make resources, etc. since all cities share. Then focus your main city on balanced and a couple citie son all technology. When you go to build wonders/buildings, pick the buildings that say give technology bonuses.
At the beginning, create to army units and move them out to explore the map and take over barbarians and to find friendly villages. Then the third thing to build is a galley to explore the waters. Load an army unit on there in case you find an island with a barbarian hut.
Remember, milestones give you free things. For example, being the first to a technology gives you a free tank unit, or a free battleship, or a free aqueduct in every city.
Find the artifacts on the map with your two army units and your ship. They are key to unlocking massive upgrades and technologies.
Build a wall around all your cities. Don't rush anything yet, save all your gold. build the wonder of the great wall and your main city will not be able to be attacked and you can then focus it on everything else you want to build.
Keep your great people in reserve. You can move them to other cities if you need room (only so many great people per city). Then when you are researching a technology that takes a long time (i.e. the manhattan project) pick your great person and use his ability to finish things along. Before you click on a friendly village select the tecnology to investigate that takes the longest. Most of the time a friendly village will automatically give you your current technology free. You can always switch back later.
Build archer armys to defend every city. Build a spy (preferably 3 spy to form a team) and have them defend every city. If you have a spy in your city another spy cannot come into your city.
Keep focusing buildings to build that give technology. If they complain they are uncivilized rush build something cheap that gives culture. Switch back to tech building afterwards.
Build all roads to all cities (the only thing you should spend your money on now) remember there are money milestones that give you free things to. Save your money so that at the end if a nation declares war, you have enough gold to rush into place a tank, bomber unit, etc.
Hope that helps.
alpha21 07-16-08, 01:48 PM Keep your great people in reserve. You can move them to other cities if you need room (only so many great people per city)..
correction
it's not a cap limit on GP, it's that you can't have two of the same type of GP settled in the city. so, if you already have a Science Person in one city, if you try to settle them it won't let you and only allow completion of the current Tech researched. if you move him to another city that doesn't have a Science Person, you can settle them there.
many of the games that I dominated (not actually dom victory) wasn't so much my strategy or skill, but that I was lucky to get certain GP when I needed them most. or when Huts give you Spies, and you are able to use them to kidnap GP (big advantage early on, when you aren't even able to build spies yet)
FootballDen 07-16-08, 02:00 PM Thanks A Bunch Man
dbburns 07-16-08, 04:05 PM I am so pissed. I played the game of the week for 3+ hours last night and was so close to getting all tech to launch my space ship (I think I had upper 30's out of the 48 needed); was comfortably holding my own against the pathetic onslaughts of the US, China, Japan, and Arabia; my cities were finding gold and producing at a decent clip, and my freaking game went weird on me. It didn't freeze, but it said that my submarine was being attacked by a foreign battleship (which was the first battle I would have easily lost; I think the foreign ship's attack was 20-something against my sub's defense of 2). The screen just displayed a close-up of a river on the other side of the map and panned around for about five minutes. I hit the start button and the pause menu came up, but the only option it gave me was to return to the game. I couldn't save at that point because I was supposedly in the middle of action, and I DID NOT SAVE MY GAME AT ALL ALONG THE WAY! My only option was to exit to the dashboard and lose all progress. I can't believe I forgot to save. It never crossed my mind. I get so wrapped up in the game that time flies, and the game didn't prompt me to save like it sometimes does. Damn my advisors for not reminding me when it was a good time to save my progress.
I guess I'll have to start all over tonight. Which may be hard since I just picked up MGS4 at lunchtime.
alpha21 07-16-08, 04:16 PM I played the game of the week ..... and I DID NOT SAVE MY GAME AT ALL ALONG THE WAY.I don't believe you can save during the GOTW or MP games.
are you sure you couldn't just move the right stick to one of you unites, then use L or R on the Dpad to move around again? this happens to me all the time when I'm in the middle of doing something, then one of the AI pops up and offers me something, I say no, then it just leaves me in the middle of nowhere and have to manually get back to what I was doing.
dbburns 07-16-08, 04:38 PM Now that you mention it, I do remember reading something somewhere about not being able to save the game of the week. Now I don't feel like as much of a dunderhead.
I did try moving both sticks, clicking both sticks, pulling both the triggers and bumpers frantically, moving the d-pad in all directions, pushing all colored buttons, pushing the "back" button, and the only thing that did anything was the start button, which paused the game.
Actually, the triggers did expand and collapse the attack/defend scenario to show and hide the statistics for why the enemy had an attack of twenty-something and why I had a defense of 2. But the attack/defend box never went away, and I didn't hear any battle taking place. I just heard some normal, soothing music, and the camera slowly panned around a close-up of some trees and a river...even after 5 minutes (or more) of waiting.
Ah well, I don't mind replaying it, but I wanted a victory over the Chinese since I haven't faced them yet. Plus I wanted that Tech victory since I didn't have one of those yet, either. I was I think one turn away from getting that victory in my very first game, and "time" ran out. I still won a crushing domination victory that time since I wiped out four of the five civs, had cities all over the map, over 130,000 in gold, and well over twenty great people, flipped cities, and wonders. I even ranked at the top of the great leaders in history list, something I haven't been able to accomplish since that time.
This is a great game.
AHDTVDiet 07-17-08, 04:16 PM So I bought RB6:V2 but after GTA have not been "in to" video games and thus have not played it. Then this week "demo week" for me came about. Tried Too Human liked it, tried Tales of Vespira and was meh, tried NCAA 09 (which I intended to buy and just wanted to make sure) and then figured I would give CivRev a try........
So, I played the demo until it timed out, went to work the next day and asked my boss if I could have an extra day off this week, went and got the game :). I only MENT to play till about 11 or so last night so I could get up early and sign onto work from home while playing today.... I ended up getting to bed at 4am. My God this game sapps the time away in unnoticable fasion. I havent had a game which displayed this kind of time warping ability since Oblivion. Of course today I got up at about 9 and figured I would play to about noon.... yeah I got done at 2:30. I am about to start another game....I am hoping to get to bed by 11... I MUST....so I can be awake for Batman tomorrow.
Bad thing though, I have played my first games on Chieftan and am starting to sleepwalk through the games, I think this is going to come back to haunt me when I start playing at the harder difficulty levels and actually have to really plan and pay attention.
Great game, highly recommend it. Now if I an only figure out how to stop myself and actually USE the nice Save feature they have....
EDIT: Oh is it even possible to lose on Chieftan? I mean what DOES the CPU do with all its turns beside build bowman?
The Sapient 07-18-08, 09:27 AM EDIT: Oh is it even possible to lose on Chieftan? I mean what DOES the CPU do with all its turns beside build bowman?
The AI in this version of Civ is not the strongest. Warloard is not much harder than Chieftain. To play at King, you need to understand the mechanics of the game and have some general idea of how to balance city development and unit production. At Emperor, you should have some idea of how you plan to win, and should be managing the workers in your cities. I've not yet tried deity, having a 2-1 record on Emperor.
alpha21 07-18-08, 10:54 AM played my first game of Deity (I've won many in a row on Emperor, and looking for a new challenge)
thought I was gonna get stomped, though it was a little close at the end. I blame it on starting on an island. this was good and bad since I went unattacked almost the entire game (good), but it was tough to expand w/ no huts around (bad). kinda tough to win on Deity w/ only 2 cities.
but seriously!, on Deity, I have no idea how they jump out to such a lead (culture, gold, science all at the same time). one AI would finish 2 wonders on one turn, then two turns later, finish another :eek:
hopefully next game I don't get stuck on an island, and I can expand giving me a better shot.
Add me to the group of folks that sat down last night for 'just an hour before bedtime.' Look down and it's 3am as I'm capturing the last palace for the win.
Really enjoying this game.
I also appreciate your tips and expanded advice WilliamR. I'm going to read over that again before moving up to the next difficulty (beat the first 2 rather easily while learning the ropes).
How do you launch the ship to alpha centauri? I thought I had built all the parts, but I couldn't figure out how to launch it before another team won.
alpha21 07-22-08, 10:33 AM once you have all four (different) pieces up, all you should have to do is hit A to launch. on the diplomacy panel, it will say when it should arrive. if you accidently back out without launching, you can always hit (<), and select Space Station Progress at the bottom
Thanks. I must have accidentally backed out of it.
alpha21 07-22-08, 11:24 AM did that my first time too
I like Civ IV for the PC much more then Civ Rev but for a console this is a pretty decent game and I'm enjoying playing it despite it been a bit weak in places.
My only complaint so far is on King or harder it basically ends up been a 4 AI vs You every time I play. Has anyone ever seen the AI attack each other? I've played about 10 games now and no one is ever at war but me with everyone else and I never start the wars (but I don't give away my tech either which is why they start most times).
Any tips on winning on Emperor or Diety?
Share em if you got em.
(my 2 tips are to play as the mongols as converting barbarians is a heck of a "bonus" in the early part of the game and also to keep at least 2 or 3 defensive units, build a wall and a spy in every city)
Cheers
Calvin
Shizelbs 07-22-08, 01:55 PM I do get a little tired of the AI being so aggresive militarily against me every time right out of the gate. It never seems to vary.
alpha21 07-22-08, 02:00 PM Any tips on winning on Emperor or Diety?
Share em if you got em.
for Emperor (I don't lose on Emperor).
*I only use the Random Civ Selector* (so I can't give specific Civ suggestions, and tips for playing them)
start the game with your Cap producing 2 (+4) Prod tiles (always use Custom Workers). you will have a warrior in 3 turns. use this warrior to explore and once the next is finished move him out in another direction to explore. after the third is created, based on what the map is looking like, you can decide to either leave them there for defense or move them out too.
this is the point where you switch your tiles to 2 (+4) Food tiles. your Cap will increase in Pop in 5 turns. during this time you have found Friendly Huts (25 Gold, Spy, Caravan etc) and Barb Huts. you should now have enough map exposed to narrow down where you want you Free Settler City placed. now that you are at 100G, get your settlers to that place asap.
HERE'S A TIP = so long as there is another unit on that space, a settler can still (use Y) settle, even if they are out of moves. just cycle through and hit Y. this will save you a turn, and allow you to start producing right away.
by this time you should be up to 3Pop on your capital. it is at this point where Science is huge. start researching as much as possible. I usually start with Pottery, because the Hanging Gardens is a great early Wonder. Pottery also leads to Cerimonial Burial.
building Temples and getting your Culture up early is usually one of my main keys to victory. everytime you get the Culture milestone (seen using RT), you get a Great Person. GP are the key to climbing ahead of your opponents. this is where some luck is involved. if you get a GP that is for Gold, he may not be as valuable as someone who gives you Culture. remember that you must settle the GP, otherwise they will NOT count toward your Culture Victory (20 needed) (except for the Culture guy who can flip cities, and a Builder who finishes a Wonder)
you should have Pottery, CB, Bronze Working, and working toward Alphabet by this point. this is the point where (if you have encountered AI) they will start to get demanding. because of this, it's best to not encounter any, or limit it to 1 or 2.
now that you have two cities, one should be making a Galley to explore for Artifacts. this can depend though on how many there are (usually when you take a Hut, they will let you know how many there are) if there are only two, you can expect ther to be only one that is reachable by Galley, since Atlantis has been on EVERY map I've played.
now the rest of the game is building Archers and defending your cities. all the while (depending on what your GP are doing) you research Tech or Gold or both (two different cities, ofcourse).
remember that first to researching Tech can give you big bonuses. Irrigation gives plus 1 Pop. Invention gives you a GP (best bonus in the game IMO)
by this time you are around 1250AD, getting attacked (probably), and holding your own with your Archer Armies, where they are upgrading (be sure to select defensive upgrades like Loyalty, Engineer, etc)
build Cats to attack the enemies attacking your city. an army of Cats can easily take out the Legion armies they would be using.
be sure to micromanage your cities (2 or 3 tops at this point, depending on what Civ you are). increasing your Pop is extremely important for you Temp/Cath to produce high Culture.
now all you need to do is turtle up in the cities, decide which way gets you the highest Research/Gold/Culture to achieve milestones (based on GP settled), and watch your Diplomacy Panel to see who's winning.
one last thing. you MUST understand how Governments work in your benefit or against you. with the above strategy, Democracy is the best, because you will get a HUGE Tech and Gold bonus, and the downside will not matter because you won't be starting wars with anybody anyways!
the key governments is to only switch to them when you research the given Tech. it will ask you "do you want to switch" (almost) always say Yes, because if you ever do eventually want to switch to it, you will cause anarchy. this way, you won't have anarchy for one turn.
now, as the game approaches the end, you should be well on your way to either a Tech or Econ Victory (Econ being the easiest). make sure one of you cities is producing high Prod (+50 atleast) (you will need a Factory, and possibly a Mine). one you are able to build the Bank Wonder, switch to Communism (only time I suggest switching causing anarchy). now that +50 Prod city should be up near +100 (micromanage so that the highest possible Prod is achieved, usually meaning select only Prod).
this should take only 6-8 turns to finish. if it's looks like you are in a tight race to complete it before another Civ finishes a game ending Wonder.....
here is a trick I use that I will give to you guys on AVS (because there's a patch going in that will end this strategy :( )
so your Bank is sitting on 8 turns, and the Japanese are 6 turns away from reaching AC....... use your other cities (which should have roads that connect to your Bank city) creat Settlers FEVERISHLY!!!!!!! if this means Rushing do it!!! now move each Settler to the Bank city and settle them ASAP (meaning be sure to use the tip above where you can settle even if it says that the turns are done for them). you should be increasing your Pop no less than 2 per turn. this will create more Prod, allowing your 8 turns, to drop drastically to an amount that is less than the Japanese AC date.
now about the patch ending the above....
currently creating a Settler will reduce the city's Pop by 2 (unless your Gov is Rep which then it would be only 1 Pop). if you move that Settler to another city, and settle them there, that city will increase by 1 Pop. this strategy (usually using Rep) is called Settler Pumping, using one city as a Pump to increase the Pop of other cities FAST. this strategy is used by many at the top of the Leaderboard (using Romans because they start with Rep).
after the patch, Settlers will nolonger increase 1 full Pop, but instead add a given amount of Food. this may or may not increase the Pop (depending on how much is needed to increase).
I hardly ever Settler Pump, so this can only help against those who (only) rely on it to win!!
hope atleast some of this helps, otherwise I wasted alot of "work time":o
Shizelbs 07-22-08, 02:20 PM Good tips Alpha
dbburns 07-22-08, 02:40 PM I agree that Democracy is the best government, at least for my style of play. I like the 50% bonuses it offers, and I rarely have to declare war on any other civs since they are always going to war with me. I do get annoyed when I get some tank armies together and want to storm some foreign castles and the other civs suddenly decide they don't want war.
Thanks for the tips Alpha!
Let us know what your doing when you get Diety down ;) I'm interested in domination wins on Diety in particular - that achievement is going to be tough!
WilliamR 07-23-08, 09:00 AM Dang it I love this game. Man, I play it every second I get. If I even only have 10 minutes before I have to do something I turn it on and play.
I am having trouble on the higher difficulties. Seems like every civ goes to war with me except one. I spend so much time and resources on building defenses and holding them off I can't mount an offensive against them (I am going for the domination victory). When I look at the who is winning other civs are passing me up fast. I can never get the one friendly civ to help and go to war, they always say they are friendly with everyone. I explore the entire ocean and not finding the wonders (on higher difficulty). It is a big struggle to keep things going. Oh well, still a blast.
WilliamR 07-23-08, 09:02 AM It sure seems like the battles are pre-decided at the start of the game. I lost a battle, where my archers have over double the attack rating as the defense rating of the unit I was attacking and they lost. I have reloaded my game dozens of times and they always loose and they loose in the same pattern (i.e. the battle animation goes identical, same numbers die at the same time, same way, etc.). I even passed a turn and tried again for the same results. It definitely doesn't seem random. Its like it already decided this battle would be a loss.
Slordak 07-23-08, 10:14 AM ... And it may very well be, to prevent the type of abuse you're describing. Actually, they don't usually fix specific outcomes, what they fix is the random number seed, so that when you try the same action over and over again, it always produces the same "random" results.
alpha21 07-23-08, 10:44 AM It sure seems like the battles are pre-decided at the start of the game. I lost a battle, where my archers have over double the attack rating as the defense rating of the unit I was attacking and they lost. I have reloaded my game dozens of times and they always loose and they loose in the same pattern (i.e. the battle animation goes identical, same numbers die at the same time, same way, etc.). I even passed a turn and tried again for the same results. It definitely doesn't seem random. Its like it already decided this battle would be a loss.this is true, though I've never personally tested it, since the only reason I save is incase there is an issue while playing (360 freezes, power goes out, etc)
for your example above, you are attacking with Archers...... even with a higher rating than the defense you are attacking, this isn't a good strategic move. the AI may be penalizing you (figuratively).
WilliamR 07-23-08, 01:28 PM this is true, though I've never personally tested it, since the only reason I save is incase there is an issue while playing (360 freezes, power goes out, etc)
for your example above, you are attacking with Archers...... even with a higher rating than the defense you are attacking, this isn't a good strategic move. the AI may be penalizing you (figuratively).
I've had it happen with far superior units (i.e. I had canons, they had archers), etc. My attack rating was through the roof, they won. I reloaded and they still won. Seemed no matter what they were set to win, even though I doubled their rating compared to mine. Oh well.
One tip that not everyone may know that I have been using a lot is when attacking coastal cities make sure you move a marine unit (ship the more advanced the better) into an adjacent square and it adds a big combat modifier to your attack which sure helps in tackling those heavily defended cities. Combine that with the "Blitz" upgrade on your units to keep hitting the cities hard round after round and even the hardest nut to crack goes down in 2 or 3 turns.
Cheers
Calvin
alpha21 07-23-08, 02:43 PM One tip that not everyone may know that I have been using a lot is when attacking coastal cities make sure you move a marine unit (ship the more advanced the better) into an adjacent square and it adds a big combat modifier to your attack which sure helps in tackling those heavily defended cities. Combine that with the "Blitz" upgrade on your units to keep hitting the cities hard round after round and even the hardest nut to crack goes down in 2 or 3 turns.
Cheers
CalvinI find that a Battleship Fleet is the single greatest unit in the game. high offense, high defense, and monster naval support (+27!!!)
depending on how the game is shaping up, I'm trying to get to Steel ASAP
quadrophenia 07-23-08, 03:45 PM I decided to give this demo a spin based solely on the comments I found here on the thread. Wow...I am not disappointed. I love this game! I'll be getting the full version in short order and look forward to playing some of you online.
WilliamR 07-24-08, 08:25 AM One tip that not everyone may know that I have been using a lot is when attacking coastal cities make sure you move a marine unit (ship the more advanced the better) into an adjacent square and it adds a big combat modifier to your attack which sure helps in tackling those heavily defended cities. Combine that with the "Blitz" upgrade on your units to keep hitting the cities hard round after round and even the hardest nut to crack goes down in 2 or 3 turns.
Cheers
Calvin
Combine that with a civization that gets naval attack bonuses (i.e. England) and not does it support the unit it makes your unit almost unstoppable.
civ veteran, picked this up is definatly fun ..can finish game in few hours. if u like revolution i suggest picking up civ4 u can get full game and 2 expansions for aLmost same price.
WilliamR 07-28-08, 08:39 AM Does anyone know if in order to get the achievement for beating the game with all civilizations includes the Zulu? The reason I ask is every civilization in the game has its own achievement for winning as that civ, except for the Zulu, they do not have an achievement so was wondering if it counted towards the overall achievement. I'm a long way to go (got about 8 civs lefts), but was curious.
rdethloff 07-28-08, 09:53 AM The achievement "This World is a Harsh Place" is unlocked when you win as the Zulu...
Can someone tell me how much damage the nuke causes?
WilliamR 08-14-08, 08:28 AM Can someone tell me how much damage the nuke causes?
It is just listed as massive because it destroys everything. It destroys anything it hits. If you target a capital the capital stays in tact but all units in the capital are destroyed, all buildings, etc. It is an empty shell that you can move a unit in to take over. Everything else is wiped off the map, leaving a crater in the ground.
dbburns 08-14-08, 01:03 PM Make sure you don't have any units in the immediate vicinity, as they will be wiped out, too. I had a city surrounded with all kinds of units, but I decided to use the nuke to get a quick takeover. Bad idea. I lost many a good unit that day. :(
WilliamR 08-14-08, 01:50 PM Make sure you don't have any units in the immediate vicinity, as they will be wiped out, too. I had a city surrounded with all kinds of units, but I decided to use the nuke to get a quick takeover. Bad idea. I lost many a good unit that day. :(
You have to be a couple squares away. That is why I use a fast moving unit that can take the city over on the next turn. I place them a couple squares away (or on a boat) and then nuke the city. Nice to see dozens of units wiped off the map. I kind of felt sorry for that little worker digging in the field. He never looked up once. Poor guy, never knew what hit him. :)
rdethloff 08-14-08, 02:38 PM Just a heads up everyone! Those who bought Civ from certain retailers received a code in the game box for free downloadable content...well, the webite is finally up:
http://www.2kgames.com/civredeem/
Here's what you get (from the civ forums):
GameStop/EB Canada:
Xbox 360 and PS3: Pack-in card redeemable online for a Voucher or Token code for Wonder & Artifact Pack: The Mythic. Included are: Ancient Wonder: Lighthouse of Alexandria, Medieval Wonder: Leaning Tower of Pisa, Industrial Wonder: Scotland Yard, Modern Wonder: SETI, Artifact 1: Camelot, Artifact 2: Tower of Babel
Target:
Xbox 360: Pack-in card redeemable online for a Token code for Wonder & Artifact Pack: The Eternal. Includes the following Wonders and Artifacts: Ancient - Trajan's Column, Medieval - University of Sankore, Industrial - Eiffel Tower, Modern - Cristo Redentor, Artifact 1 - Pharoah's Needle, Artifact 2 - Tesla's "Peace" Ray
Best Buy (US and Canada):
Xbox 360 and PS3: Pack-in card redeemable online for a Voucher or Token code for Wonder & Artifact Pack: The Iconic. Includes the following Wonders and Artifacts: Ancient - Coliseum, Medieval - Taj Mahal, Industrial - Statue of Liberty, Modern - Sydney Opera House, Artifact 1 - Terracotta Army, Artifact 2 -Sphinx
WilliamR 08-15-08, 09:53 AM Just a heads up everyone! Those who bought Civ from certain retailers received a code in the game box for free downloadable content...well, the webite is finally up:
http://www.2kgames.com/civredeem/
Here's what you get (from the civ forums):
Yeah, I downloaded mine the other day. It was a nice change of pace to discover a new artifact and get its effect. Plus the new wonders, etc. Pretty cool.
On another note, I just got my last achievement (50 out of 50!!). I just had to wait for a great person to appear that I was missing. So I played a couple games as the Romans since they get more great people. It speaks to how fun this game is, very few games out there have I tried to get all achievements.
Ktulu_1 08-15-08, 12:46 PM I just wanted to drop in here and thank everyone for the help. I was playing the game the same way I did on the lowest level and I was getting creamed and frustrated every time. Not until I read this thread and started using the entire game to my advantage did I "figure it out". I now have several wins on deity and almost all the achievements. Thanks.
Ok, you guys convinced me to get the game. Long time CIV PC player and I'm been on the fence. But it would be nice to play a game that allows me to get some sleep!!!
Plus I need a good single person strategy game to play since I'm done with WOW.
Anyone have some good tips for winning a Tech Victory on Deity?
I've been trying the Japanese on lighting rounds as I heard that is a good way but so far it hasn't been working I have yet to be able to pull off the win.
Cheers
Calvin
WilliamR 08-22-08, 10:38 AM Anyone have some good tips for winning a Tech Victory on Deity?
I've been trying the Japanese on lighting rounds as I heard that is a good way but so far it hasn't been working I have yet to be able to pull off the win.
Cheers
Calvin
I did it with the Egyptians. The Egyptians are insanely overpowered when it comes to technology. The developers said it is even been called overbalanced. The key though is the starting city. You HAVE to get your city on a grass patch in the middle of a desert or at least a couple desert tiles around your city. You may have to restart a few times to get this. Here is how unbalanced it is and how you will know if your starting city is correct. Once you hit found city you should get your first technology advisor to pop up BEFORE you even get your first warrior unit. No one else can get this so fast. If he does not pop up right away, restart.
Also, when looking at the technology consultant, make sure you work backwards from the space flight and try to pick the path that also has military advantages (i.e. gunpowder or something) not naval stuff. This way you are on the path to space flight but also on the way you will get some military perks for the inevitable defense you will have to do.
Explore the world to get the artifacts ASAP. Work as fast as you can to a galleon so you can explore the deep waters and get atlantis (it has been on every game I have played and I have played over 100 times). Atlantis gives you a massive bonus to technology. Even if you do not need them, it will help your city.
Once you have explored the world and can't do much else, fall back to your city. Create defensive units. Build as many library and universities as you can. Also get some culture to hopefully flip cities so you don't have to attack. First settler found another city close to desert tiles or better yet, on a 1 tile island to maximize the sea and make it a gold producing beast. You need a few cities so hopefully you can flip them. The reason is that at the end when you are ready to launch if you have, say 5 cities, every city can produce a fuel cell and a propolsion unit. Your gold will be through the roof by then so rush build all of them each round until your travel time is down to like 10 years. That is only a turn or two. This way you can beat whoever is going for the domination/economic/cultural win before they can complete their wonder.
Hope that helps.
WilliamR
Thanks for the response. I went home last night and played the heck out of the game on deity on the "Attack of the barbarian" scenerio and with the Aztecs I ended up getting both the Culture and the Tech Achievement. I didn't know that about Egypt though that is really cool and it would have certainly helped (and also explained why I've never beat Egypt in a tech match on Deity if they are one of the randome AI players I would just restart I find them impossible to beat unless you can attack and take their capital ASAP)
Anyway I have 49/50 achievements now the only one I'm missing is the "Great People" one and the only person I'm missing is the "Great Builder" that is credited with "Construction".
I've read elsewhere that if your the first person to develop the tech you stand a good chance of unlocking that "great person" however I've likely played over 100 games now and I'm positive I've been the first to unlock Construction at least 20-30 times and I still don't haven't gotten him?
Any ideas on this folks? Do I need to be a certain culture or be on a certain skill level? (I've beaten the game with every civ but I'm not 100% I've been the first to develop construction with everyone but that is what I'm going to try next as I'm out of ideas)
Cheers
Calvin
alpha21 08-22-08, 03:14 PM I've read elsewhere that if your the first person to develop the tech you stand a good chance of unlocking that "great person" however I've likely played over 100 games now and I'm positive I've been the first to unlock Construction at least 20-30 times and I still don't haven't gotten him?
Cheers
CalvinGP are completely random, doesn't matter if you research construction (first, last). by "construction" (I'm assuming you found it in the Civpedia) they mean Great Builder. there are a few different Great builders.
as for the Egypt thing above... why exactly are they a Tech civ? every time I've played with them, they are average at best. Japan and China are much better, not to mention Greek
WilliamR 08-22-08, 03:35 PM GP are completely random, doesn't matter if you research construction (first, last). by "construction" (I'm assuming you found it in the Civpedia) they mean Great Builder. there are a few different Great builders.
as for the Egypt thing above... why exactly are they a Tech civ? every time I've played with them, they are average at best. Japan and China are much better, not to mention Greek
Japan is great because of the sea. When you have played and saw Egypt as only average it is because they didn't start the game near a desert tile. Try it, the developer themselves said that Egypt is actually over powered because of this. No other Civ will get you a technology before you get a warrior unit. Second tech before second warrior unit. You have to have LOTS of desert tiles though. Having one is good, having a lot is unstoppable for them, especially later with wonders, etc. that focus on desert tiles. Your AI probably created an Egypt civ in a lush jungle or near mountains. If they do, they are useless.
alpha21 08-22-08, 03:52 PM I agree with the desert square thing, but beyond that (unless there are MANY desert squares) they are just average IMO.
and for the starting a research right away, all you need to do is hit select, then choose research. the thing is though, I NEVER research on the first (few) turns. I find it's extremely important to get that warrior ASAP so that you can go get the huts, that give you gold, that give you a free settler (at 100 gold). I also find it important to get the Pop up ASAP.
GP are completely random, doesn't matter if you research construction (first, last). by "construction" (I'm assuming you found it in the Civpedia) they mean Great Builder. there are a few different Great builders.
Alpha,
Good to know. I had read that if your the first to "gain" a new technology you can often "unlock" or aquire the person credited for that technology in the Civpedia and I must admit it certainly seems that way when I play the game when I do unlock GP they seem to pop up shortly after their Techs are developed in many cases.
Anyway the GP I'm trying to get is Nebuchadnezzar and I must say I'm stumped. Guess it is just a matter of time, just need to keep playing and eventually he should pop up... I was hoping there might be a technique.
Cheers
Calvin
alpha21 08-22-08, 04:14 PM well there are like 5 or 6 different types of GP, and like 40 different (named) GP. so there are about 6 of each kind. so I'm not quite sure how Techs researched would effect that, especially since GP come from Culture (milestones). also, there are many games where the first 2 GP I received were Gold GP. I never researched any gold related Techs (Currency), yet I received not one, but two! this always POs me because I they are the least helpful IMO.
anyways, I was lucky to have gotten all the GP, in just a few games. I have no idea how. like I said, I was just lucky, but there is a scenerio that can be used to help. I can't remember exactly which one it is, but it has to do with culture (temple, cathedrals, monarchy).
WilliamR 08-25-08, 09:39 AM I agree with the desert square thing, but beyond that (unless there are MANY desert squares) they are just average IMO.
and for the starting a research right away, all you need to do is hit select, then choose research. the thing is though, I NEVER research on the first (few) turns. I find it's extremely important to get that warrior ASAP so that you can go get the huts, that give you gold, that give you a free settler (at 100 gold). I also find it important to get the Pop up ASAP.
All that does is set up your first tech research, WHEN YOU ARE ABLE. Your turn to completion will be either very high, and in a lot of cases, it is not even there (the techs are listed with no turns to completion next to them). With the egyptians and a desert square, as soon as the city is founded the Tech Consultant automatically pops up because you are ready to research, before the city is even completed (it is because you gain tech beekers in your city so fast). In 2 turns you have your frist tech. With other civs, if you hit select you will be a LONG way away from getting your first and like I said, in most cases you will not even see the number of turns because your civ does not have any beekers yet. You have to have beekers to begin research, your scenerio, you do not have any, you are just telling your civ, this is what AI want to do when you do get beekers. Trust me, Sid himself said Egypt is unbalanced if they get desert squares. He hasn't said that about any of the other 16 civilizations. The game testers all agreed.
I finally finished all the achievements this weekend. Thanks for all the great tips on the thread :)
Somewhatlost 09-09-08, 02:10 PM how do I get more nukes? I like nukes... nukes are fun... in civ 4, I would build up huge stock piles, then nuke everything all at once... great fun... how do i do that with Rev???
alpha21 09-09-08, 02:12 PM not possible
Somewhatlost 09-09-08, 02:33 PM not possible
bummer...
why not? nukes are your friend... you should be able to have many of them...
alpha21 09-09-08, 02:45 PM map size?
amount of enemy civs/caps? (only 4)
Somewhatlost 09-09-08, 04:49 PM map size?
amount of enemy civs/caps? (only 4)
doesn't change the fact that you should be able to have a total nuclear annihilation victory...:cool: (the best type of victory, really)
alpha21 09-09-08, 04:52 PM I knew I should have left the question alone
ooPAYNEoo 09-10-08, 10:04 AM Having fun with this game so far. Hoping it doesn't become redundant. Personally I would have enjoyed moremicromanagement, and I wish each game was about 300% longer. Something that you look back at after 2-3 weeks and it's like, "wow, I built THIS", sort of like SimCity, where my NYC is a product of over 2 years development thru good and bad times.
Looks like they could have went a lot deeper with this. I'm sure the 360 could have handled more. Needs more customization too.
But don't get me wrong, I have to actually force myself off of this game. The 1st few times I played, I couldn't sleep because I was trying to set up Horsemen armies and develop walls while laying in bed!
Somewhatlost 09-10-08, 11:55 AM I knew I should have left the question alone
perhaps...:)
but its still a great game...
I just want more nukes:mad:... wonder if there is a cheat code? or some down loadable content or something...
Shizelbs 09-10-08, 03:06 PM Having fun with this game so far. Hoping it doesn't become redundant. Personally I would have enjoyed moremicromanagement, and I wish each game was about 300% longer. Something that you look back at after 2-3 weeks and it's like, "wow, I built THIS", sort of like SimCity, where my NYC is a product of over 2 years development thru good and bad times.
Looks like they could have went a lot deeper with this. I'm sure the 360 could have handled more. Needs more customization too.
But don't get me wrong, I have to actually force myself off of this game. The 1st few times I played, I couldn't sleep because I was trying to set up Horsemen armies and develop walls while laying in bed!
Then you will be wanting to check out the PC version. Its a lot like CivRev, but has a much deeper experience. A game usually takes a lot longer. More techs, more units, more everything.
Evangelo2 09-11-08, 10:11 AM Then you will be wanting to check out the PC version. Its a lot like CivRev, but has a much deeper experience. A game usually takes a lot longer. More techs, more units, more everything.
Shizelbs ir spot on here. I tried Civ Revolutions and felt that Civ 4 (with all expansin packs) on the PC was a much deeper game. I could deal with the controller instead of a M&KB but I felt like I couldn't do some basic things (liek send a scout to auto explore the map). OH Well, it's still Civ which is great and if you played it and are into it you should check out Civ IV on the PC which is superior IMO.
-Evangelo2
alpha21 09-11-08, 10:55 AM I just recently picked up Civ4 (Gold). lets just say that since I got it, (besides drunken Rock Band with friends) I have yet to turn on my 360.
I picked up Civ III Complete on Steam for cheap. It's been burning up hours of my time ever since.
alpha21 09-11-08, 11:10 AM I just recently picked up Civ4 (Gold). lets just say that since I got it, (besides drunken Rock Band with friends) I have yet to turn on my 360.I should add though, that when I'm playing Civ4, I think how I'd rather be laying on the couch playing CivRev instead. it's much more relaxing than sitting at a comp (which I do all day long at work).
ooPAYNEoo 09-11-08, 09:52 PM Well I see they have a Mac version, no PC's here. Looks like the xbox version.
You know, one more thing about this game. BOY are the interruptions distracting. Sometimes you want to just concentrate and play the map. Wish there were a ticker style info bar, or something like Simcity where the news stays in one box.
... if you're in Houston, man please be safe. Basically gtfo of there.
ooPAYNEoo 09-17-08, 10:22 AM I have 20000 gold, and it tells me World Bank is available to be unlocked. Why does it not show up?
In another case, I have learned all tech and launched the spacecraft. What's next?
Seems like it always ends up a dom victory, even though I'm completing other stuff?
EDIT: read around and see that there are a few that think this is a bug that happens sometimes. Kinda takes the fun out of playing, after trying this 10 times wondering what's wrong and see it's a bug. Gotta give this game a break now. *sigh*
alpha21 09-17-08, 11:21 AM I've never not had the WB available once I reached 20k (though I have heard of the bug)
for the Tech Vic - you launch each part, then you must launch the ship itself to AC. it should then tell you what year it will arrive, giving you that victory.
are you actually taking capitals, and getting a Dom Vic that way? or maybe you reach the time limit and it just gives you a Dom Vic because it doesn't know how else to award the victory (I wouldn't know, as none of my games have ever reached the date cap)
WilliamR 09-17-08, 02:24 PM I have 20000 gold, and it tells me World Bank is available to be unlocked. Why does it not show up?
In another case, I have learned all tech and launched the spacecraft. What's next?
Seems like it always ends up a dom victory, even though I'm completing other stuff?
EDIT: read around and see that there are a few that think this is a bug that happens sometimes. Kinda takes the fun out of playing, after trying this 10 times wondering what's wrong and see it's a bug. Gotta give this game a break now. *sigh*
You have to build the world bank once you reach 20000. It is under your wonders. If it is not on the list, try scrolling down, the list can get rather long.
You have to launch the ship. If you only built it with one engine, one propulsion, one of each, the ship will take hundreds of years, if not a thousand to reach its destination. You have to build the space ship with like 4 propellents and 4 engines, etc. (you only need 1 habitation and 1 life supprt). With 4 each your travel time is only 10 years, which is one turn. Sounds like you are not building enough propulsion units thus the game is ending in a domination victory. Rush as many as you can from each city to do it fast and then when it shows you your space station in space it shows you how long to your destination. If it says 10 years, hit A to launch it.
ooPAYNEoo 09-17-08, 03:14 PM I have built all 4 sections, launched and waited. Built the wonder that learns all tech and still no dice.
Got way more than 20000 gold, no World Bank in list.
I'm on democracy, so I don't start wars, and none of the other civs can touch me. Battleship fleets lined up around every city.
Even got to the point where there's little left to build, just letting cities idle and pass turns hoping the bank will show up, or the tech victory comes. Nothing.
The city is built to win either way. I purposely balanced everything so I could save, get all 4 victories and then move on to another level. Really don't feel like starting over... really does ruin the experience.
alpha21 09-17-08, 03:23 PM The city is built to win either way. I purposely balanced everything so I could save, get all 4 victories and then move on to another level. Really don't feel like starting over... really does ruin the experience.oh.... looks like you are being punished for "reloading" for achievements.:p;)
Every time I've lauched the ship, within 10 turns I win a Tech Vic. (even if I don't use multiple pieces of the same type, like William suggests). what year are you saved at, because it really sounds like you are pushing the time limit.
WilliamR 09-17-08, 04:01 PM I have built all 4 sections, launched and waited. Built the wonder that learns all tech and still no dice.
That is my point. Building the 4 sections and launching takes over 1,000 years for your ship to reach its destination. You will never get there. You have to build multiple propulsion and fuel units. Have all your cities build fuel or propulsion, as many as you can. They stack on top of each other on your space station/ship once built (the cut scene shows them connecting together). I build like 4 fuel and 4 propulsion and 1 habitat and 1 life support. If you build just the 4 sections, you can not reach Alpha in time to win.
WilliamR 09-17-08, 04:03 PM Got way more than 20000 gold, no World Bank in list.
I could be wrong, but doesn't the world bank HAVE to be built in your capital city? Perhaps your list you are looking at is not the main city. Try that. I have not heard of this happening before, it always appears for me.
alpha21 09-17-08, 04:07 PM I'm not sure this is correct William
with 1 piece each (4 total), it has never taken more than 10 turns for me. I don't know what this would equate to in terms of years, because each turn isn't the same amount of years.
almost every time that I have won a Tech Vic, I've done it with only the 4 total pieces. (Emperor)
when I did try the build 4 of each piece thing, it still took about 4 or 5 turns to get there. and since it took me about 4 turns to complete all those parts, I didn't really save any time by doing it.
I could be wrong, but doesn't the world bank HAVE to be built in your capital city? Perhaps your list you are looking at is not the main city. Try that. I have not heard of this happening before, it always appears for me.nope
it is a bug that I've heard of, but I've never experienced it.
the only bug I've ever encountered is the Dancing Spy Bug.
ooPAYNEoo 09-17-08, 04:12 PM Ah ok, I see what you guys are saying about the spacecraft. I'll try again with that... And double check for the bank. Thanks guys.
And the save is pretty late in. I guess there's about 10 turns left. I didn't know that they penalize you for saving at a strategic spot :confused:
alpha21 09-17-08, 04:17 PM Ah ok, I see what you guys are saying about the spacecraft. I'll try again with that... And double check for the bank. Thanks guys.
And the save is pretty late in. I guess there's about 10 turns left. I didn't know that they penalize you for saving at a strategic spot :confused:they don't, I was kidding, but if it's gonna take more turns to finish the WB, than the game has remaining, it would make sense that it wouldn't show up as an option.
I don't even remember what date the game ends, because I never even get close to it. if I can't win by 2010, then I did WAY too much needless messing around, and made the game take longer than need be
ooPAYNEoo 09-17-08, 05:35 PM Actually the game is at 1850, plenty of time for the bank to finish. I just tried it again. It just does not show up.
However, I did get the tech and I'm going to try for the cultural.
WilliamR 09-18-08, 08:16 AM I'm not sure this is correct William
with 1 piece each (4 total), it has never taken more than 10 turns for me. I don't know what this would equate to in terms of years, because each turn isn't the same amount of years.
almost every time that I have won a Tech Vic, I've done it with only the 4 total pieces. (Emperor)
when I did try the build 4 of each piece thing, it still took about 4 or 5 turns to get there. and since it took me about 4 turns to complete all those parts, I didn't really save any time by doing it.
nope
it is a bug that I've heard of, but I've never experienced it.
the only bug I've ever encountered is the Dancing Spy Bug.
That was his problem, he did not have 10 turns left to get the ship there. Thus it always ended in a dom victory. I was exaggerating on the 1,000 years. But usually, unless everything goes perfect, you are not going to be able to launch the ship and get it there in time before the game ends (or someone else builds the bank/cultural victory). Plus with that much time, on higher difficulties like diety, once you launch your ship, every nation will attack you, launch a nuke, or rush to get the bank built to beat you. You need to build multiple propulsion and fuel units to win it quickly. 4 of each will let you win the game on the next turn.
WilliamR 09-18-08, 08:17 AM This game was so freaking fun. All this talk about it makes me want to go back and play it again. I beat the game 64 times. 4 victories (one of each type) per civilization and got 1,000 out of 1,000 for achievements (I rarely do that with games). What an excellent and fun game. I miss it now. :(
ooPAYNEoo 09-18-08, 09:32 AM Well I have to admit that city was on the lowest level of difficulty, since I'm a noob to Civ games, but man that city was as efficient as possible. Whole piece of coastal land occupied by 3 cities. Directly across from that I had 2 more cities on a smaller island. In between those cities, I had fleets upon fleets of ship units all packed with units and tanks and a settler, just in case I needed to set up a quick city where ever else I wanted. Everyone kept trying to bring their dumb Galleons thru that strait against my veteran fleets. Uhm No.
When I went back into the save @ 1850, I was able to quickly learn the tech, and the SS Units all were either paid for in cash or built within 1 turn. I had to go thru a LOT of animations for a moment. Then that was it. Before I knew it, tech victory.
Same with Cultural. The united Nations shows up in every city, so I had the most productive city go to work, while I just had fun taking out Indian cities. (Sherman Tank Units at 120 attack pretty much took out the entire Indian civ) Before I knew it, cultural victory.
Going to start a new city just for the Bank, but I think I'll move up a level or 2now. Now that I actually understand what I'm doing, Cheiftan is pretty easy.
This game is addicting, and satisfies my need to be an 'organized control freak'. :o It definitely needs some polishing for a more fluid experience, but they got the 'fun' part down, which is what matters the most.
WilliamR 09-18-08, 03:52 PM Uhm, you do know you can skip those space ship launch animations completely. As soon as it starts hit, I think it is the A button, and the animation skips. You can do it on all launches.
ooPAYNEoo 09-18-08, 06:49 PM Yeah, I think it's B. I did skip em, but they are still a bit much. I also get a bit of lag there.
That part of the game IMO seems out of place and unnecessary. It's a nice idea, but would have made more sense if there were activities to do in space.
whiskey > work 11-12-09, 09:52 PM wal mart has this for $20. Worth it?
WilliamR 11-12-09, 10:15 PM wal mart has this for $20. Worth it?
Best strategy game ever. Well worth it. I never played a game that much. Probably 50 - 100 times as differnt civs and victories (i.e. tech, military, economic).
number1laing 11-12-09, 10:25 PM Definitely worth it. The AI is balls, especially if you know the PC game, but it's still a great title. Easy achievements too.
FootballDen 02-15-10, 07:10 PM Anyone still palying this game, i think ive gotten the most outta this game and gears of war. tehy had a ton of dlc that wasnt out when i stopped playing. I downloaded it and now there are a ton of different scenarios
WilliamR 02-15-10, 10:18 PM Anyone still palying this game, i think ive gotten the most outta this game and gears of war. tehy had a ton of dlc that wasnt out when i stopped playing. I downloaded it and now there are a ton of different scenarios
Still play it all the time. I love this game. Simply awesome.
alpha21 02-16-10, 11:42 AM it's a game, where whenever I feel like lounging and listening to music, I pop in CivRev. I set the AVR to the DirecTV music channels, and the display to the 360. since CivRev doesn't require sound to play, it's perfect for cranking tunes while playing
Lord_Zath 12-12-11, 02:21 PM Back from the dead bump!
My wife and I just got two copies of this so we could play online together. Bigtime Civ IV people, bought V but had to wait a year to play it due to it being broken. Convinced her to buy it after trying the demo, and now here I am with two questions!
1. Is there any DLC that is worth it? What should I/we avoid? Are all the wonder packs only good for single player?
2. What multiplayer DLC is there? Do both people need the DLC, or does the host only need it? I'm specifically looking into the terrestrial map pack since it has Earth maps :)
WilliamR 12-13-11, 09:24 AM Back from the dead bump!
My wife and I just got two copies of this so we could play online together. Bigtime Civ IV people, bought V but had to wait a year to play it due to it being broken. Convinced her to buy it after trying the demo, and now here I am with two questions!
1. Is there any DLC that is worth it? What should I/we avoid? Are all the wonder packs only good for single player?
2. What multiplayer DLC is there? Do both people need the DLC, or does the host only need it? I'm specifically looking into the terrestrial map pack since it has Earth maps :)
I still play this game and one of the few games I got the 1,000 point achievements. Incredibly addictive game sooo loved it.
The DLC is well worth it. Especially the wonders and artifacts. The new artifacts you find in the world soooo help the game and now having so many new ones you can discover while exploring really helps. They are most definitely worth it. I believe the wonder packs work in multi-player too if both people have them.
I believe both people need the maps downloaded for it to work. I actually found most of the maps to be a dissapointment. The best part was the new scenerios (i.e. everyone gets more techs, more barbarians in the world, etc. etc.) the new scenerios really helped add another dimmension to the game from the standard game play. But the actual maps were a little boring and I found the default random map generator to be way better for exploring.
Lord_Zath 12-13-11, 09:33 AM I still play this game and one of the few games I got the 1,000 point achievements. Incredibly addictive game sooo loved it.
The DLC is well worth it. Especially the wonders and artifacts. The new artifacts you find in the world soooo help the game and now having so many new ones you can discover while exploring really helps. They are most definitely worth it. I believe the wonder packs work in multi-player too if both people have them.
I believe both people need the maps downloaded for it to work. I actually found most of the maps to be a dissapointment. The best part was the new scenerios (i.e. everyone gets more techs, more barbarians in the world, etc. etc.) the new scenerios really helped add another dimmension to the game from the standard game play. But the actual maps were a little boring and I found the default random map generator to be way better for exploring.
hmm good to know thanks.
I found one of the maps was a free download, so I downloaded it and kept it off the wife's 360 for now. I'll try hosting and see what happens.
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