I have tried 2 different 2M HDMI cables from BCI (Shaw Cable) and also a Microsoft Xbox 360 cable. Both are causing issues from my PS3 to my Edge. I used a monster cable from my HD DVD player and it works perfectly?

The most confusing issue...

With the microsoft cable I can watch 1080p/24fps movies but as soon as the movie is ejected the dashboard is not displayed? How does the cable pass 1080p/24fps with DTS MA, but not the PS3 dashboard?

4 seconds of complete black-no audio, no video.

Good for me, I'm not alone. Bad for you. :(


No SACD or DVD-A? You're under-utilizing that 970! ;)


Now with the EDGE I'd go back to my old Pioneer (480i only) if it weren't for the horrible layer change. :o

I have a question for those who game on the edge, does the edge provide better results then the 360 scaling it.

Or some games for ps3.


I am actually very pleased with the 360 outputting 1080p, it looks really good, and games that allow 1080p output like mlb the show on ps3 also look great.

Im wondering if people see an upgrade using the edge. I do find it difficult that there maybe one, due to it cutting down on processing for game mode to lower delay.

But I thought I would ask, I hope i can get an honest answer.

I have tried 2 different 2M HDMI cables from BCI (Shaw Cable) and also a Microsoft Xbox 360 cable. Both are causing issues from my PS3 to my Edge. I used a monster cable from my HD DVD player and it works perfectly?

The most confusing issue...

With the microsoft cable I can watch 1080p/24fps movies but as soon as the movie is ejected the dashboard is not displayed? How does the cable pass 1080p/24fps with DTS MA, but not the PS3 dashboard?

I am baffled...

I think I have narrowed it down to the Edge's settings and not the cables. When I use an input that I have not setup input like HDMI 5, I get different results than on HDMI 1-3 where I have set PrEP, Mos. NR, etc.

I guess I will be spending another few hours figuring out the cause of this.

It is so weird how it sometimes plays discs but then the PS3 doesn't display the dashboard, then it will show the dashboard and not discs. I thought PrEP was the issue, I was 99% sure, now I am not so sure again.

My HD DVD player connected via 1M HDMI 400 series works great, when I use that input on the Edge (HDMI 1) with monster, it worked. I just got back from the store with a new monster cable and in HDMI 2 it didn't work 100%? So it must be the input settings right?

It must be settings? or Maybe a combination of certain settings with differing cable issues?

I have been at this for 9-10 hours and have talked to Larry for 15-20 minutes as well.

Eliminating certain causes and then trying to determine the real issue has been a real pain!

Has anyone else has issues with a PS3 to Edge? Any input?
:confused::eek::cool::confused::o:(:confused:

I assume you tried the PS-3 on HDMI 1 with the same cable that works fine with DVD?

Does you cable box work OK.

If cable and DVD both work on any HDMI input then finger is pointed at PS3

I have had no problems with PS3 on any input.

Good luck

..........

I have had no problems with ps3 on any input...........



+1

Do you think they will ever turn on "Progressive Cadence Detection" on the Edge? I love my Edge, but that would make it unbeatable.

Doy you think they will ever turn on "Progressive Cadence Detection" on the Edge? I love my Edge, but that would make it unbeatable.

Isn't it already "on"

Look at features in first post of this thread

Does anybody know if the Edge would cause everything we view to be too dark. It seems as though I need to up the brightness and lower the contrast to get the same results I had before we got the EDGE. Note that it could have been my receiver that was once messing everything up and I'm getting a better signal now.

Also, how does one set the brightness, contrast, and such for a HDTV box (TivoHD)? I'm going to try uploading some test patterns to the Tivo, but wonder if there is a better method.

Does anybody know if the Edge would cause everything we view to be too dark. It seems as though I need to up the brightness and lower the contrast to get the same results I had before we got the EDGE. Note that it could have been my receiver that was once messing everything up and I'm getting a better signal now.

Also, how does one set the brightness, contrast, and such for a HDTV box (TivoHD)? I'm going to try uploading some test patterns to the Tivo, but wonder if there is a better method.

The Edge output should be 'right on the money'. You should use the Edge patterns and adjust your display to match Edge. My TiVo S3 is also 'on the money' so no adjustment in Edge should be required.

I have a question for those who game on the edge, does the edge provide better results then the 360 scaling it.

Or some games for ps3.


I am actually very pleased with the 360 outputting 1080p, it looks really good, and games that allow 1080p output like mlb the show on ps3 also look great.

Im wondering if people see an upgrade in pq, using the edge. I do find it difficult that there maybe an upgrade in pq since the edge is cutting down on processing for game mode to lower delay.

But I thought I would ask, I hope i can get an honest answer.


Any gamers can you help answer the above?

Any gamers can you help answer the above?
Well, I know with the PS3 that most of the games are 720p so to have every game upscaled to 1080p is sweet. I also had my edge off the PS3 for a week and I swear panning around in the game wasn't as smooth. It could have been my imagination though. :)

Tom

I always let the 360 output 1080P for the games.

I always let the 360 output 1080P for the games.
the 360 can upscale games to 1080p? I think the PS3 only does it for movies.

the 360 can upscale games to 1080p? I think the PS3 only does it for movies.
It's up to the individual game developer on the PS3 if they use the PS3 CPU resources to support 1080i/p. Many games do (Killzone 2, MLB 2009, 2K sports games etc.) support 1080, but a lot of others don't (Madden, Little Big Planet etc.). Basically the PS3 doesn't offer specific hardware to do the upscaling like the 360 does so the games vary depending on what the developer had resources to do and if they felt 1080 was worth taking the development time to support.

As someone using their PS3 on a 1080i CRT that has influenced whether or not I purchase a lot of games as it has to be a really good game to justify living with 480p. I'm hoping my Edge (which should arrive today :D) changes that though...

the 360 can upscale games to 1080p? I think the PS3 only does it for movies.

You set the output on the 360 and that is what comes out for everything. UNlike the PS3 which is all over the place for output resolutions.

You set the output on the 360 and that is what comes out for everything. UNlike the PS3 which is all over the place for output resolutions.
You make it sound as though the PS3 not scaling games (or SD DVDs) is a bad solution. I happen to think it a superior solution since it passes the original resolution and you can scale it with your TV (or Video Processor if you own one). People with bad TV video processing may not like this approach, but I never minded it even before I bought the Edge.

I've yet to play games with the PS3 since I got the EDGE, but will try to do so tonight.

Hi all,

I've been trying to catch up. I had serious audio dropout using FW 1.1 with every source on my Denon 2809ci and went back to FW1.0.

It seems like FW 1.2 does not play nice with Denon receivers, is that the general consensus?

You make it sound as though the PS3 not scaling games (or SD DVDs) is a bad solution. I happen to think it a superior solution since it passes the original resolution and you can scale it with your TV (or Video Processor if you own one).
If you have a TV that doesn't support 720p input, it's not the best solution. If you presume everyone w/a PS3 has a newer HDTV that supports 720p, it's fine. FWIW, the PS3 is the only HD source I've had in my system that will not upconvert 720p material to 1080. Overall it's still a great value and I don't regret the purchase, but it's a non-trivial shortcoming for those of us using 1080i CRTs...

If you have a TV that doesn't support 720p input, it's not the best solution. If you presume everyone w/a PS3 has a newer HDTV that supports 720p, it's fine. FWIW, the PS3 is the only HD source I've had in my system that will not upconvert 720p material to 1080. Overall it's still a great value and I don't regret the purchase, but it's a non-trivial shortcoming for those of us using 1080i CRTs...
Good point!

However, I thought that a dedicated video processor would do a much better job of scaling 720p to 1080i/p than any gaming console could ever do. So those of use lucky enough to be able to afford a PS3+Edge should be getting superior video.

You make it sound as though the PS3 not scaling games (or SD DVDs) is a bad solution. I happen to think it a superior solution since it passes the original resolution and you can scale it with your TV (or Video Processor if you own one). People with bad TV video processing may not like this approach, but I never minded it even before I bought the Edge.

I've yet to play games with the PS3 since I got the EDGE, but will try to do so tonight.

Well for scaling games, it would be ideal to do it in the game system since it will have less of a delay(or at least the potential to have less) than using an external processor. For other viewing I agree an external processor like the EDGE would be the best.

anyone here have the Oppo BDP-83?
i just got mine today, hooked it up and set to bitstream, it is not passing any of the advanced audio, like true HD or DTS HD MA. DD or DTS work perfectly fine but none of the new codecs.
i have tried it with 3 different disks all with same result (wall e, dark knight, hancock)
also having some issues with my popcorn hour passing HD MA, but not true HD.
i have seen a few posts about not passing HD audio, i am on firmware 1.2

anyone here have the Oppo BDP-83?
i just got mine today, hooked it up and set to bitstream, it is not passing any of the advanced audio, like true HD or DTS HD MA. DD or DTS work perfectly fine but none of the new codecs.
i have tried it with 3 different disks all with same result (wall e, dark knight, hancock)
also having some issues with my popcorn hour passing HD MA, but not true HD.
i have seen a few posts about not passing HD audio, i am on firmware 1.2


Yup.... DTS-MA works fine for me.... Havent tried True HD. Im on 1.2 Build 76.

anyone here have the Oppo BDP-83?
i just got mine today, hooked it up and set to bitstream, it is not passing any of the advanced audio, like true HD or DTS HD MA. DD or DTS work perfectly fine but none of the new codecs.
i have tried it with 3 different disks all with same result (wall e, dark knight, hancock)
also having some issues with my popcorn hour passing HD MA, but not true HD.
i have seen a few posts about not passing HD audio, i am on firmware 1.2

Stuck in Transformers and True HD works fine too....

Video out of Edge is straight to my display. Audio out of Edge is straight to an Onkyo 875.

Stuck in Transformers and True HD works fine too....

Video out of Edge is straight to my display. Audio out of Edge is straight to an Onkyo 875.

thanks, mine is set up the same way, video out of edge straight to my display and audio out of edge straight to denon 3808. im also on build 76.
i will play around with it more when i get home, but thanks for confirming that it is working fine for you

thanks, mine is set up the same way, video out of edge straight to my display and audio out of edge straight to denon 3808. im also on build 76.
i will play around with it more when i get home, but thanks for confirming that it is working fine for you
I have the 83 and have the same problem of not passing the lossless formats. If I cycle my AVR power it sometimes works. Larry at Anchor Bay can reproduce the problem and says they are working on it. Please contact Larry and let him know?
Thanks,
Tom

I have the 83 and have the same problem of not passing the lossless formats. If I cycle my AVR power it sometimes works. Larry at Anchor Bay can reproduce the problem and says they are working on it. Please contact Larry and let him know?
Thanks,
Tom

thanks Tom, i will write Larry now. until they get a fix i have the 83 to the denon and then the denon to the edge.

Brandon

thanks Tom, i will write Larry now. until they get a fix i have the 83 to the denon and then the denon to the edge.

Brandon

Or, you can Let the 83 decode and send LPCM to the Edge, which is what I'm doing until a fix is available.

I also have an Oppo 83 and the Edge and I have been able to pass the advanced Codecs through the Edge to my Onkyo 606 using bitstream with no problem with the latest firmware. I am going from the 83-to the Edge. The output I am using contains both Audio and Video. (I did not use the audio only output to go to the Onkyo.) I am using source direct from the 83. The advanced codecs show up on the Onkyo display with no problem. Have any of the members with this issue used the combo Audio/Video output from the Edge to see if the problem is still there?

I have tried 2 different 2M HDMI cables from BCI (Shaw Cable) and also a Microsoft Xbox 360 cable. Both are causing issues from my PS3 to my Edge. I used a monster cable from my HD DVD player and it works perfectly?

The most confusing issue...

With the microsoft cable I can watch 1080p/24fps movies but as soon as the movie is ejected the dashboard is not displayed? How does the cable pass 1080p/24fps with DTS MA, but not the PS3 dashboard?

Are you seeing the behavior if you bypass the Edge into the same display input ? What display are you using ?

Hi All

I think this has been asked before can the EGDE pass TrueHD & Master Audio trough LPCM trough the EDGE and in to the receiver, I don't have Bitstream yet and most likely not for a long time all of my decoding is in the player.

And some people said it does not pass trough are there right or what.

Does the New firmware v1.2 work know
Thanks

it passes fine with LPCM, some, including myself are having trouble with bitstream, but i dont remember anyone have difficulty with PCM

it passes fine with LPCM, some, including myself are having trouble with bitstream, but i dont remember anyone have difficulty with PCM

Thanks

Are you saying LPCM 5.1 from TrueHD and DTS Master audio if so Am buying one.

Yes 7.1 LPCM goes through fine from my PS3. And 7.1 bitstreaming too from my BD35 and XA2.

I have a BD10A Blu-ray Player and a 550 sony player that has all internal decoding and my Receiver only has LPCM 5.1 No HD Bitstream and I will not be updating my receiver for a long time.

So do you think it will be a step up in Picture quality for my setup I have
Panasonic AX200 with an anamorphic lens 12ft screen, one thing about that would it be better to do the V-Fit in the EDGE or the Projector.
My receiver is a Onkyo 803
My Blu-ray player is what I said, so do you think it a step up for my setup. I do get a bit of jagged edges If I turn down my sharpness they sort of go but then the Picture look fuzzy. I only watch 100% Blu-Ray

So if I got one I would be inputting 1080p trough and the EDGE will pull it apart and put it back together and output in in 1080p in better Quality is this right.


What firmware are you using.

Thanks

So if I got one I would be inputting 1080p trough and the EDGE will pull it apart and put it back together and output in in 1080p in better Quality is this right.



Blu-ray 1080p will show little if any improvement, certainly not enough to justify the cost of the Edge for most people.

Blu-ray 1080p will show little if any improvement, certainly not enough to justify the cost of the Edge for most people.

Thanks

I might not buy one now How big of an improvement is it for DVD

I was responding to your statement "I only watch 100% Blu-Ray". There is considerable improvement for SD DVD.

Thanks

I might not buy one now How big of an improvement is it for DVD

I agree with Gary on BluRay.

SD-DVD is where it shines. With a 12 ft screen you would probably see improvement. However the best plan is to buy one with return priveleges to see for your self.

We all have different setups and therefor opinions are just that.

The EDGE is also an excellent entertainment hub. with a few HDMI switches it's easy to route everything through it. I route 10 video sources through my main Edge unit.
The only device not routed through is my OPPO 980 because the EDGE doesn't pass through DSD over HDMI.

Have not got an Edge (yet) but I was wondering if anyone here could elaborate on the combination of an Edge with a Sigma Design SMP 863x based device as these become ever more popular.
Lots of NMT's are using these and I have seen them appearing in some of the latest Sat receivers as well (I happen to be looking for a HD sat receiver).
How does the Edge fare against (with) these?

I have a question for those who game on the edge, does the edge provide better results then the 360 scaling it.

Or some games for ps3.


I am actually very pleased with the 360 outputting 1080p, it looks really good, and games that allow 1080p output like mlb the show on ps3 also look great.

Im wondering if people see an upgrade using the edge. I do find it difficult that there maybe one, due to it cutting down on processing for game mode to lower delay.

But I thought I would ask, I hope i can get an honest answer.
on my xbox 360 with gears of war 1 which is 1080i, i let the edge convert to 1080p. i think it looks better then if the xbox upconverts. on my pioneer 600m i see a difference.

Well for scaling games, it would be ideal to do it in the game system since it will have less of a delay(or at least the potential to have less) than using an external processor. For other viewing I agree an external processor like the EDGE would be the best.

why would it be slower if edge did the 1080i to 1080p. the game console has to do the same thing 1080i to 1080p. there should be the same delay if there is one.

Want to connect Mac Mini to HDTV, and wanted to know if the DVDO EDGE stores the EDID information, to fool the computer to thinking that it always is connected to a source?

Want to connect Mac Mini to HDTV, and wanted to know if the DVDO EDGE stores the EDID information, to fool the computer to thinking that it always is connected to a source?

No.

Can the DVDO Edge upscale independently on horizontally / vertical axis and then 'remember' the setting for next time that specific HDMI input is selected without having to renegotiate across the HDMI link to get the EDID information?

In other words, can I set and forget regardless of EDID?

Can the DVDO Edge upscale independently on horizontally / vertical axis and then 'remember' the setting for next time that specific HDMI input is selected without having to renegotiate across the HDMI link to get the EDID information?

In other words, can I set and forget regardless of EDID?

Yes the Edge can zoom vertically and horizontally separately and those settings will be permanent for whatever input you make those adjustments to.

As an example some of the older content on the SciFi channel (old SG-1 etc) were originally broadcast in a letter-box format for 4x3 tv's. So rather than watch them in a small window in the center of my screen via HDMI I ran a set of component/toslink connections from my HD-DVD player to one of the inputs on my Edge. Then I set up that input to zoom the horizontal and vertical ~31% so that the broadcast now completely fills the screen. In that way whenever a program is being watched that is in that format I simply switch to the Component-1 input and it is already setup to expand that type of programing.

In my case I zoom the image the same amount (%) horizontally and vertically, but those settings could be set to different values if your situation required it.

I'm running a FiOS high def DVR box into my Edge (V1.1 f/w), then out to a 40XBR2, all via HDMI. When playing back HD shows (and only HD), the aspect ratio is completely messed up, in that it looks like its trying to stretch vertically and people get tall, skinny and their heads cut off. I've made sure the FiOS box has the right output format (1080i) and the TV is set to map 1:1 pixels. I've also tried mucking with the aspect ration buttons on the remote to no avail. Any ideas or other settings to double check? Thanks!

Anyone? This makes watching HD content rather, shall we say, yuk? Really appreciate some insights. And thank you.

Anyone? This makes watching HD content rather, shall we say, yuk? Really appreciate some insights. And thank you.

When you set up the Edge what format did you tell it to use?

There are several selections 16:9, 4:3, etc... which is yours on and have you tried all the options.

This setting will be remembered for all images coming in through the selected input when you choose one. Remember you must choose an output format for each input individually.

I have the 83 and have the same problem of not passing the lossless formats. If I cycle my AVR power it sometimes works. Larry at Anchor Bay can reproduce the problem and says they are working on it. Please contact Larry and let him know?
Thanks,
Tom

Does Larry know it's not just the Denon? I have the same problem with the yamaha vx1800.

Yes the Edge can zoom vertically and horizontally separately and those settings will be permanent for whatever input you make those adjustments to.

As an example some of the older content on the SciFi channel (old SG-1 etc) were originally broadcast in a letter-box format for 4x3 tv's. So rather than watch them in a small window in the center of my screen via HDMI I ran a set of component/toslink connections from my HD-DVD player to one of the inputs on my Edge. Then I set up that input to zoom the horizontal and vertical ~31% so that the broadcast now completely fills the screen. In that way whenever a program is being watched that is in that format I simply switch to the Component-1 input and it is already setup to expand that type of programing.

In my case I zoom the image the same amount (%) horizontally and vertically, but those settings could be set to different values if your situation required it.

Why not just zoom the HDMI input. All my connections are HDMI. I do the same thing with content like that. I use the zoom function to zoom everything proportionally to fill the screen. No need for a set of analog cables to be used.

Does Larry know it's not just the Denon? I have the same problem with the yamaha vx1800.
I also have a RX-V1800, its not AVR specific.

Why not just zoom the HDMI input. All my connections are HDMI. I do the same thing with content like that. I use the zoom function to zoom everything proportionally to fill the screen. No need for a set of analog cables to be used.

Because I am using the HDMI connection out of the HD-DVR to watch everything that is broadcast in 16x9 format... the DVR only has a single HDMI output so by using the Component outputs for the letterboxed shows I can quickly switch back and forth without having to go into settings and adjust the zoom up and down every time Sci-Fi channel shows a program in different formats......

Just works better for us lazy people......... :D

Because I am using the HDMI connection out of the HD-DVR to watch everything that is broadcast in 16x9 format... the DVR only has a single HDMI output so by using the Component outputs for the letterboxed shows I can quickly switch back and forth without having to go into settings and adjust the zoom up and down every time Sci-Fi channel shows a program in different formats......

Just works better for us lazy people......... :D

I'm lazy too but I refuse to deal with analog any more. I only have one device that outputs analog(a vcr/dvd recorder combo) and that is for my girlfriend so she can watch her old Taebo tapes when she exercises and burn her Lifetime shows that I record on the TiVoHD in that room.
You could also get an HDMI splitter. I use a couple with a couple of sources connected to my main EDGE. For me I love HDMI because of just needing one cable for audio and video

EDIT: well I guess I am dealing with analog agin since I got this HAVA Platinum HD. But it's also so my girlfriend can watch her Lifetime shows remotely and check the guide and do all the scheduling.
She only has OTA and DSL. Even though she can get FIOS she doesn't want to get it, even though it would cost her the same to get the triple play from FIOS(or even Comcast) than what she is paying now for DSL and home phone service.

I'm lazy too but I refuse to deal with analog any more.

With D* (and other TV feeds), there's no difference between HDMI and component/toslink.

Have not got an Edge (yet) but I was wondering if anyone here could elaborate on the combination of an Edge with a Sigma Design SMP 863x based device as these become ever more popular.
Lots of NMT's are using these and I have seen them appearing in some of the latest Sat receivers as well (I happen to be looking for a HD sat receiver).
How does the Edge fare against (with) these?

Works quite well. I have the HDX-1000 NMT. Passes TrueHD, DTS-HDMA
thru the Edge with no problems.

NMTs allow some flexibility in the frame rates eg 24p material is output as 24p
so the EDGE does the frame rate conversion.

The only downside is the NMT insists on doing the scaling, not bad but
pales in comparison to the Edge.

^^^
So basically, as far as pq improvement is concerned putting an Edge in the chain would not bring any substantial added value?

Would anyone know of can you stretch it out a tiny bit in small step horizontal on the EDGE.

I bought a anamorphic lens about 5 weeks ago and it has a little squeeze, I do not know if it is the lens or the Projector when I apply the V-FIT I would like to open it out a tiny bit Horizontal.

Would the EDGE do a better job with the V-fit then my Projector would or would it make no different.

My PJ is a Panasonic AX200

Thanks

^^^
So basically, as far as pq improvement is concerned putting an Edge in the chain would not bring any substantial added value?

Correct.

I have a Panasonic plasma with their oddball 1366x768 resolution
so it helps as the NMT is limited to 480/576,720 and 1080 via HDMI.

Correct.

I have a Panasonic plasma with their oddball 1366x768 resolution
so it helps as the NMT is limited to 480/576,720 and 1080 via HDMI.

Odd-ball though it may be, my Panasonic Plasma accepts native rate (1366x768) via DVI and not via HDMI. The Edge EDID worked perfectly and locked onto dot by dot mode.

Looked great too.

- Rich

I just installed new firmware, 1.21 build 0.82. We'll see if it helps the audio issue I was having.

Does it matter unless you happen to have a 1366x768 source?

A few days ago I mentioned the video and audio dropouts I was having with an Oppo 970, well I turned off PREP in the EDGE and set the 970 to output 480i and haven't experienced any dropouts since/yet.

Edit: Oh well, had one tonight (5-25-09).

Does it matter unless you happen to have a 1366x768 source?

Yes. The best scaler should do the job and the source should be scaled once for best results.

- Rich

Yes. The best scaler should do the job and the source should be scaled once for best results.

- Rich

It is a little different with an NMT, which is designed to play material
with arbitrary resolutions between QSIF (320x200) and 1080p and it
has to output a known resolution. Source direct is not workable
in this instance

Double scaling is unavoidable if the native resolution of the display is
not one that the NMT supports.

The box is built to a price so it is unlikely it will support the output flexibility
we see with scalers like the EDGE

Will the EDGE help my TH65PZ850U handle standard definition from my comcast box?

Ray

BUMP

it passes fine with LPCM, some, including myself are having trouble with bitstream, but i dont remember anyone have difficulty with PCM

I just verified that I have the birate problem. LPCM is fine

BDP-83 to Yamaha RX-V3800 works fine

BDP-83 to Edge to Yamaha RX-V3800 get constant shorrt audio dropouts when passing bitstream from the BDP-83

I am running V 1.10 build 66

I have my OPPO bd83 to Edge, audio out to Onkyo885 and video to Optoma HD80 and I have not had one drop out audio or video on the first six Blu-rays I have watched. I am running the newest firmware with the Edge. I have OPPO bd83 set to source direct and audio to bitstream and all audio formats are being passed to Onky885( dloby tru hd and DTS-hd master audio). It looks like the Edge works well with Onkyo products such as mine 885 .

I assume you tried the PS-3 on HDMI 1 with the same cable that works fine with DVD?

Does you cable box work OK.

If cable and DVD both work on any HDMI input then finger is pointed at PS3

I have had no problems with PS3 on any input.

Good luck

The PS3 works fine on HDMI input 4? HD DVD works on HDMI 1? But the PS3 doesn't work properly on HDMI 2. If I utilize "safe mode" I have been able to get it to receive a signal and then if I turn "safe mode" off I can continue to watch. Once the movie is over and I go back to the PS3 dashboard I get audio only again? I am $%^&*'d!:confused::eek::rolleyes::o:(:confused:

Does anybody know if the Edge would cause everything we view to be too dark. It seems as though I need to up the brightness and lower the contrast to get the same results I had before we got the EDGE.

I have noticed that the edge darkens things as well. I have been using "cinema 3" (which is brighter) rather than "Cinema 1" on my Panasonic PT-AE3000U until I can calibrate things.

Are you seeing the behavior if you bypass the Edge into the same display input ? What display are you using ?

No I do not have the same problem if I bypass the edge and go directly to my Panasonic PT-Ae3000U. It also doesn't happen on all of the edge's inputs? I just swapped cables again and HDMI input 2 still is messed.

Everyones setup is different with potentilly different results but I recenly had my new Kuro ISF calibrated. At the end he checked the inputs through the Edge and they were right on the money.

No I do not have the same problem if I bypass the edge and go directly to my Panasonic PT-Ae3000U. It also doesn't happen on all of the edge's inputs? I just swapped cables again and HDMI input 2 still is messed.

Do other devices work on HDMI 2? If not maybe a bad connector on the Edge.

Because I am using the HDMI connection out of the HD-DVR to watch everything that is broadcast in 16x9 format... the DVR only has a single HDMI output so by using the Component outputs for the letterboxed shows I can quickly switch back and forth without having to go into settings and adjust the zoom up and down every time Sci-Fi channel shows a program in different formats......

Just works better for us lazy people......... :D

I like your solution. Nice thinking. As for the analog argument, component video will look just as good as HDMI from a HDTV set-top box that outputs 1080i or 720p. HDMI is fantastic but always necessary and often overrated when compared to component for non 1080p signals.

Do other devices work on HDMI 2? If not maybe a bad connector on the Edge.

I will check that...

How much Info does the EDGE tell you when you press the INFO button on remote.

I also found this but it a different language.

http://www.cine4home.de/tests/sonstiges/DVDOEdge/DVDO-Edge-Test.htm

Here's a question. I have reconnected my DV8400 for use with "quickie" DVD watching—that is, without firing up the main rig. Both video and audio of the DV8400 go through the Edge to the TV (PRO-111FD). In the Edge menu, I've selected stereo for input and the audio is out via the HDMI audio/video connection to the TV. It's set up according to the manual, but get no sound.

I double-checked the DV8400 settings since it was unplugged for awhile, thinking maybe something was reset there, but no go. Could it be because the cable box audio is connected to the 111 analog inputs associated with the HDMI input the Edge is using? I'm going to try that one and see, but meantime, should I get a Zektor or something?

Update: I've updated the firmware to 1.21 (82), and tried again. Still no sound, whether the DV8400 analog outs went through the EDGE or direct to the associated input on the display. This is strange.

The one thing I haven't tried yet is to switch the cable box to Component input rather than HDMI or disconnect it completely to see if things change. Since it's always on the EDGE sees a signal from it, even if nothing is being watched. I've now connected a BDP-83 using HDMI to the EDGE and there's no problem with sound. If changing the cable box status doesn't work, then perhaps I have a defective unit.

The PS3 works fine on HDMI input 4? HD DVD works on HDMI 1? But the PS3 doesn't work properly on HDMI 2. If I utilize "safe mode" I have been able to get it to receive a signal and then if I turn "safe mode" off I can continue to watch. Once the movie is over and I go back to the PS3 dashboard I get audio only again? I am $%^&*'d!:confused::eek::rolleyes::o:(:confused:

Either see if you can get the EDGE repaired under warranty, or don't use the PS3 on HDMI 2. If everything else works fine with input 2, Just make sure you don't use it with the PS3. A very simple solution.

I use the Port savers that Monoprice sells. I currently use several dozen HDMI cables with my devices and the first thing I do when I get a new HDMI device is to plug a port saver into the HDMI port. That way, when I change things around, the connections aren't made on the devcies HDMI port but on the port saver. That way if anything is going to be damaged, it's the port saver which is only around $3 each to replace.

Weird problem with my Edge yesterday.

Was watching TV and all was fine. Started to watch a recording from my DVR and the picture was very strange. The only way to describe it is that it looked just like the movie "A Scanner Darkly". Like someone had painted over the film with swirling colors. I thought it was the recording, but then realized it was like that even when I switched to live.
So, I assumed it was the DVR. After ruling out the DVR, I figured it was the TV. After ruling out the TV, that left the edge.

Turned the edge off for a few minutes, then back on and all was fine. Haven't seen it since.

the uncompressed Audio from Blu-Ray is supposed to work thru the HDMI audio output from the edge. You can't get full uncompressed audio from coax or optical
I have the edge and have not used the HDMI audio only output yet because my NAD Recevier cannot decode the uncompressed sound but when I do get a pre-amp that handles that; you should be able to set the blu-ray player to pass-thru and send the audio from the EDGE to the receiver or pre-amp via HDMI and get the full Dolby TrueHD, etc

that is what the HDMI audio only out put is for; otherwise there would be no use for it; you can get regular DD 5.1 or DTS from Coax or optical

the HDMI output on the EDGE is a critical feature for letting people get uncompressed sound

Is anyone using an EDGE with a Panasonic TH65PZ850? If so how does the Standard Definition from your STB look compared to the video processing being done by the Panasonic?

Ray

Weird problem with my Edge yesterday.

Was watching TV and all was fine. Started to watch a recording from my DVR and the picture was very strange. The only way to describe it is that it looked just like the movie "A Scanner Darkly". Like someone had painted over the film with swirling colors. I thought it was the recording, but then realized it was like that even when I switched to live.
So, I assumed it was the DVR. After ruling out the DVR, I figured it was the TV. After ruling out the TV, that left the edge.

Turned the edge off for a few minutes, then back on and all was fine. Haven't seen it since.

I had the same thing happen the other day. Left the room while watching live TV through DTV HDDVR > Edge > Mits WDY65. Came back a while later and the screen was as you describe. Shut off the whole system and restarted and all was well again.

Is anyone using an EDGE with a Panasonic TH65PZ850? If so how does the Standard Definition from your STB look compared to the video processing being done ny the Panasonic?

Ray

I have the same Panasonic, different size, and SD cable STB looks worse with the Edge than without it as I have detailed in this thread a few times.

Thanks for the reply Gary. That is very disappointing; I just installed an Oppo BD83 and was hoping the EDGEwould give similar results with SD cable signals that I am getting with SD DVD's from the BD83. Is there another video processor that will give me the results that I want or is it a Panasonic problem?

Ray

Thanks for the reply Gary. That is very disappointing; I just installed an Oppo BD83 and was hoping the EDGEwould give similar results with SD cable signals that I am getting with SD DVD's from the BD83. Is there another video processor that will give me the results that I want or is it a Panasonic problem?

Ray

I knew you were going to make me look this up. ;) It's not a Panasonic problem at all. In fact the Panasonic processing does quite well. Here is one of the posts.




Time Warner Cable SA 8300HD cable box
Every setting under the sun.

I was told the Panasonic plasma has it own internal processing which works well on it's own but not in combination with any processing applied by the Edge. I suppose I could go find the original thread on the Edge beta forum but not sure it would be a good idea to re-post it here.

Gary-
Is there a reason as to why the Edge doesn't convert SD material well for the TH65PZ850 but does a better job with other TVs/Projectors? I'm not trolling; I'm just curious.

"Gary-
Is there a reason as to why the Edge doesn't convert SD material well for the TH65PZ850 but does a better job with other TVs/Projectors? I'm not trolling; I'm just curious."

I also am curious; is this something Anchor Bay is aware of and is working on?

What is "trolling", other than from a boat?

Ray

It's part the Panasonic does well with SD processing and part nothing does that well with overly compressed broadcast SD TV. The Edge does do well with SD DVD. That is it's sweet spot IMO.

Thanks...and trolling?

trolling or a "troll" usually refers to someone that doesn't have an interest in the discussion at hand yet they post anyway, usually to get people fired up about something.

At least that's how I understand it.

Thanks for the definition. I have seen the term used on other threads but didn't know exactly what it meant.

Ray

trolling or a "troll" usually refers to someone that doesn't have an interest in the discussion at hand yet they post anyway, usually to get people fired up about something.

At least that's how I understand it.

That's how I meant it. I was trying to get information, but was afraid someone might think I had a different reason for asking the question.

anyone heard from Larry at DVDO recently? i sent him and Ken an e-mail last week about the issues I'm having with the edge not passing through the advanced audio (true HD, DTS-HD MA) from my Oppo BDP-83 and have not heard back from either of them. Also sent them a follow up today and still no word.

^Long holiday weekend?

Weird problem with my Edge yesterday.

Was watching TV and all was fine. Started to watch a recording from my DVR and the picture was very strange. The only way to describe it is that it looked just like the movie "A Scanner Darkly". Like someone had painted over the film with swirling colors. I thought it was the recording, but then realized it was like that even when I switched to live.
So, I assumed it was the DVR. After ruling out the DVR, I figured it was the TV. After ruling out the TV, that left the edge.

Turned the edge off for a few minutes, then back on and all was fine. Haven't seen it since.

I have this all the time :(
Sometimes the remote control locks up as well during this and I have to power cycle the EDGE by unplugging it at the mains.
Now that I see more people with this problem I think I will report this to DVDO support as it is a rather annoying problem for me occurring at least once a day.

There a new Update for the EDGE

Firmware v1.2.1
Release date: May 13, 2009

What's new in EDGE Firmware v1.2.1 compared to v1.2?

* Fixes a minor bug in the operation of the PReP feature.

There a new Update for the EDGE

Firmware v1.2.1
Release date: May 13, 2009

What's new in EDGE Firmware v1.2.1 compared to v1.2?

* Fixes a minor bug in the operation of the PReP feature.

Actually we've been talking about & using it for weeks! :rolleyes:

Actually we've been talking about & using it for weeks! :rolleyes:

Sorry Did not know, I should have my EDGE next week, would it be good to update to v1.2.1 when I get it or a waste of time.

would it be good to update to v1.2.1 when I get it or a waste of time.

yes, make sure you do update.

Just got the DVDO Edge and wow! Nice piece of equipment. Upgraded firmware to 1.21 ... hooked up the Time Warner cable box (SA 3250HD) with DVI-HDMI cable + Optical for sound and Apple Mac Mini (10.5.7) using PLEX for Home Media Center with DVI-HDMI cable + Optical for sound. TV is Samsung UN55B7100 and using Yamaha sound projector YSP-4000.

Still learning some of the finer points of the DVDO, but so far am impressed. Nice additions: Auto Wake Up, Auto Standby, Hot Plug source.

DVDO fixed some problems I was having with the Mac Mini where the HDMI video feed would drop if I turned off the devices, but left the Mac on (Apple Thread @ discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2004318) ... the DVDO "Hot Plug" feature renegotiates HDMI with Mac. Also, nice to be able to Zoom H + V to scale the Mac desktop for the whole screen. Sure, it is overkill for these Mac annoyances, but the 1080p processing is very nice.

Looking forward to unleashing more of the DVDO capabilities. Would appreciate any pointers on things to look out for when calibrating.

Thanks agian to Jason at AVS I am not a proud owner and had a chance today to get it up and running. All I can say is it really is a great unit and even the Wife was happy we were able to 1 remote. Still learning so if anyone has any tips that would be great!

Also if anyone who is using the Edge with a 8300HD TW cable box I was wondering how you bring up your recorded shows? The TW remote had a green button labeled "list".

Hello eveybody, recently I got EDGE and used it as video processor to feed HTPC, but there are some problems with it on HTPC.

1. How should I set the resolution of PC when the film on PC is 1280x720 or 1920x1080?
2.The information is showing that PRep is "OFF"?
3.HDCP is "OFF" as well.
4.The source via HDMI is from PC to EDGE and EDGE to PC is via HDMI as well.
Then I set output audio is "Video HDMI ", but the TV is no sound.

I had updated Firmware v1.2.1
Could somebody here tell me how to figure out these problems?
Thanks.

Any chance the Edge or other DVDO product might add color gamut correction abilities? Would be nice to see this option in a not out of this world price point.
Any word yet on gamut correction?

At a minimum, I'd like to be able to enter my own 3x3 matrix coefficients. I'd prefer to enter my own gamma exponent as well (for converting to linear light space and back), but I'm fine if it simply assumes 2.0 and 1/2.0 (i.e., squaring then taking the square root).

Would the edge improve std. def.DVD's noticably better than a Toshiba XA-2?

So since Oppo doesn't sell the 983H anymore, would an Oppo 980H + Edge give me the same quality? Better, even, with 1080p/24 output?

What's the warranty period on the Edge? It appears my hdmi 1 port no longer works. I can't get through to Anchor Bay.

Thanks.

So since Oppo doesn't sell the 983H anymore, would an Oppo 980H + Edge give me the same quality? Better, even, with 1080p/24 output?

I believe it would as long as you let the Edge do the upscaling. I got the Oppo BDP-83 and letting it or the Edge upscale appears exactly the same to me.

What's the warranty period on the Edge? It appears my hdmi 1 port no longer works. I can't get through to Anchor Bay.

Thanks.

My HDMI input 1 started playing up today. The contrast and brightness keep bumping up without me doing anything. I tried updating to the new firmware and the Edge keeps crashing internet explorer in vista so no joy there either.

Ok this might be some dumb questions, but do you have to do the firmware updates? I just got mine and it has ver 1.1 and everything works great.

Also if I do the updates do I need to do v1.2 first and then 1.2.1?

Thanks for your help.

My motto has always been if it ain't broke don't fix it, but I see no harm in moving to the latest versions with the Edge. There have been some functiomality additions in the latest versions.

You can load any version in any order, they are fully self contained. The latest version also sets up the edge so loading firmware does not destroy current user settings.

My motto has always been if it ain't broke don't fix it, but I see no harm in moving to the latest versions with the Edge. There have been some functiomality additions in the latest versions.

You can load any version in any order, they are fully self contained. The latest version also sets up the edge so loading firmware does not destroy current user settings.

Well I should have listened. I went ahead with the update and was having all kinds of issues. My screen was jumpy and I was getting all kinds of video drop outs. Strange thing was it was only on my HD channels???

I ended up putting the v1.1 back on and have no issues since. Hope they can fix this.

Something else is wrong. It works perfectly for me at least (Version 1.2 any build). What is your connection between the cable box and the edge?

Something else is wrong. It works perfectly for me at least (Version 1.2 any build). What is your connection between the cable box and the edge?

SA 8300HD >HDMI>Edge.

I tried both updates and both of them produced the jumpy screen and dropouts.

I am running SA8300HDC units which I believe had a significant change in the HDMI architecture. You might want to get your cable supplier to change out the unit to see if it changes the situation. I am pretty sure they both run the same maestro software so there should be no operational changes.

My bad I looked at it again and I am running the HDC box.

When you loaded the new fw, did you leave it alone while the blue light was flashing? You need to do that so that it can build the user settings data base, that takes a few minutes. You also might want to reset to factory defaults for the first time since you were running 1.1. Also double check the version and build after loading.

If none of that works get in touch with DVDO support

Yep. Waiting for the blue light to stop and reset everything to factory default.

It's working right now so I will just wait to Monday to contact DVDO to see if they have a solutions. I will post what I find out.

Does anybody know if the Edge would cause everything we view to be too dark. It seems as though I need to up the brightness and lower the contrast to get the same results I had before we got the EDGE. Note that it could have been my receiver that was once messing everything up and I'm getting a better signal now.

Also, how does one set the brightness, contrast, and such for a HDTV box (TivoHD)? I'm going to try uploading some test patterns to the Tivo, but wonder if there is a better method.

I have the same. When I calibrate inputs, I have to have brightness set to positive settings and contrast set down to negative.

It depends what colour space you output in too.

IMHO what should be done is to first calibrate the display using an independent signal generator. Once you know the display is properly calibrated then the Edge should be correct with all brightness contrast levels set to 0 or middle of the range.

IMHO what should be done is to first calibrate the display using an independent signal generator. Once you know the display is properly calibrated then the Edge should be correct with all brightness contrast levels set to 0 or middle of the range.

Sorry if I gave the impression that my projector was not calibrated before I added the Edge. I had the brightness and contrast set exactly the way I liked them before I got the Edge. I plugged in the Edge and instantly my wife and I noticed that everything was too dark. I have had to add +7 to the Brightness and -12 to the Contrast in the Edge to get the same effect I had before introducing the Edge.

Sorry if I gave the impression that my projector was not calibrated before I added the Edge. I had the brightness and contrast set exactly the way I liked them before I got the Edge. I plugged in the Edge and instantly my wife and I noticed that everything was too dark. I have had to add +7 to the Brightness and -12 to the Contrast in the Edge to get the same effect I had before introducing the Edge.

Edge by default uses RGB colorspace. I would bet that if you switched Edge to Ycc that the settings would go back to where you had them last.

This is exactly what happens with my Samsung DLP. The resulting Contrast and Brightness calibration points are different depending on whether the set is receiving RGB or YCC.

You should calibrate the display to the Edge before you mess with the device calibrations... Edge is your reference 'pattern generator'.

I am pretty certain about what follows, but at my age I am rarely ever certain about anything.

When setting up a video chain using a video processor the order of device calibration starts with the Display. This is based upon the premise that you want to do all signal adjustments using the device you specifically bought for that purpose.

1) The display should be calibrated using a good test signal generator that puts out industry standard test patterns and is directly connected to the display. This may not look like what you want, but it will be how the display was built.

2) If the display is digital, The output of the video processor (Edge) should locked to the pixels (1:1 pixel matched) of the display. The Edge facilitates checking this with several test patterns This will keep the chain digital with no scaling taking place in the PJ. After all that is what the Edge was bought for. I do it this way and do not have a judder problem with my display. I do not allow the Edge to change output mode based on input signal, I make the Edge convert everything to the displays native resolution.

3) The Edge stores all picture controls by input in multiple memories. I do not recall if the Edge also does it by input resolution as is done in the VP50PRO. The various picture controls; brightness, contrast, etc. (for each input, and perhaps each reolution on that input) should now be adjusted to provide what the viewer considers to be the most pleasing picture.

In this way all compensation and scaling for inputs is done in the Edge. The display is set to receive an industry standard signal. Not all displays render an industry standard signal in the same way. IMHO this should not be compensated for in the display but rather in the Video processor since you can do it there for each input source.

Also different source devices may proclaim to provide industry standard signals but . . .

I am pretty certain about what follows, but at my age I am rarely ever certain about anything.

When setting up a video chain using a video processor the order of device calibration starts with the Display. This is based upon the premise that you want to do all signal adjustments using the device you specifically bought for that purpose.

1) The display should be calibrated using a good test signal generator that puts out industry standard test patterns and is directly connected to the display. This may not look like what you want, but it will be how the display was built.

2) If the display is digital, The output of the video processor (Edge) should locked to the pixels (1:1 pixel matched) of the display. The Edge facilitates checking this with several test patterns This will keep the chain digital with no scaling taking place in the PJ. After all that is what the Edge was bought for. I do it this way and do not have a judder problem with my display. I do not allow the Edge to change output mode based on input signal, I make the Edge convert everything to the displays native resolution.

3) The Edge stores all picture controls by input in multiple memories. I do not recall if the Edge also does it by input resolution as is done in the VP50PRO. The various picture controls; brightness, contrast, etc. (for each input, and perhaps each reolution on that input) should now be adjusted to provide what the viewer considers to be the most pleasing picture.

In this way all compensation and scaling for inputs is done in the Edge. The display is set to receive an industry standard signal. Not all displays render an industry standard signal in the same way. IMHO this should not be compensated for in the display but rather in the Video processor since you can do it there for each input source.

Also different source devices may proclaim to provide industry standard signals but . . .

In your section 1... The Edge is the reference test signal generator. Its patterns are 'correct' and should be used as the basis for calibrating the display. Its moot however... since if you calibrate using another 'correct' signal generator... it will be correct with Edge IF in both cases you use the same colorspace. The colorspace difference is important. Displays do different things between colorspaces and they may be different between colorspaces (like my DLP is).

Ok this might be some dumb questions, but do you have to do the firmware updates? I just got mine and it has ver 1.1 and everything works great.

Also if I do the updates do I need to do v1.2 first and then 1.2.1?

Thanks for your help.

Regarding firmware update. I went from 1.1 directly to 1.21 with no problems.

Edge by default uses RGB colorspace. I would bet that if you switched Edge to Ycc that the settings would go back to where you had them last.
This is exactly what happens with my Samsung DLP.
...
Thanks - that does sound like my problem. I'll check it out.

My HDMI input 1 started playing up today. The contrast and brightness keep bumping up without me doing anything. I tried updating to the new firmware and the Edge keeps crashing internet explorer in vista so no joy there either.

I'd heard Vista was buggy; I don't know if they fixed it. Is there another OS you can try to confirm?

I am new to this external video processing universe.

I finally jumped in and bought an Edge to process video signal from my Pioneer Elite Blue Ray/DVD player type BD-05FD and my Scientific Atlantic Time Warner DVR/ Cable Box to my Mitsubishi 40" 120 HZ deep color LCD (this and Toshiba only 40 displays that will fit in my dedicated cu$tom cabinetry).

For my purposes it was essentially "plug and play" with essentially everything set to "auto" on the Edge. I set my Blue Ray to "source direct" output which bypasses the embedded video processor, and the cable box to native outputs letting the Edge do the video processing tricks. The LCD automatically selects "Native" when presented with its desired resolution.

Let's just say I am quite happy. The advantage falls mostly to the standard definition DVD for my system, although the cable TV is marginally better. I was surprised since the BD-05D is supposed to be a pretty good up-scaling player.

The "auto input select" and "auto on off" features for inputs is very useful on the Edge- it turns itself on and automatically selects my chosen input for me just by turning on the source.

The feature I like the most is the custom scaling which I find very useful to fill the screen with the cable box signal. The access to video menus is nice and the remote feels nice in my hand.

A satisfied DVDO customer here.

I'd heard Vista was buggy; I don't know if they fixed it. Is there another OS you can try to confirm?

I've had no problems with my six Vista machines. No bugs.

Hi all,

My DVDO Edge is pretty warm and sometimes it just shut down by itself. Turning on and off will solve the problem but it keeps coming back.

Some people commented that the PSU could be over voltage and heated the PSU.

I took 2 pictures and I think the VR1 is the place for us to adjust the final 5V output. (orange color "switch")

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4862/img0726l.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8748/img0727w.jpg

Any idea which direction shall I turn to reduce the voltage? How do I know if it's over voltage or under voltage?

Thanks a lot!

You'd have to measure it to be sure, but I really doubt those people are right.

I loaded the 1.21 firmware yesterday, and seems to be working fine after I reconfigured my settings, but after I have my display off for a while, it goes from solid blue (still have Tivo on) to flashing blue. Any idea why this is?

Hi all,

My DVDO Edge is pretty warm and sometimes it just shut down by itself. Turning on and off will solve the problem but it keeps coming back.

Some people commented that the PSU could be over voltage and heated the PSU.

I took 2 pictures and I think the VR1 is the place for us to adjust the final 5V output. (orange color "switch")

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4862/img0726l.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8748/img0727w.jpg

Any idea which direction shall I turn to reduce the voltage? How do I know if it's over voltage or under voltage?

Thanks a lot!


Didn't you just void your warranty?
I know both of my EDGEs get warm, but DVDO also said the EDGE is designed to run this way. But if it's shutting off while you are using it then that sounds like a warranty issue. you should be able to send it in for service.

I loaded the 1.21 firmware yesterday, and seems to be working fine after I reconfigured my settings, but after I have my display off for a while, it goes from solid blue (still have Tivo on) to flashing blue. Any idea why this is?

TV or projector off, no output device. Started working this was as of 1.2 I think?

Edit: I'd like to see the LED tied to the INFO button/screen, keep it off unless I want to see the status?

TV or projector off, no output device. Started working this was as of 1.2 I think?

Edit: I'd like to see the LED tied to the INFO button/screen, keep it off unless I want to see the status?

what are the changes with this update.

I would like to post a heads up to Larry from DVDO. I was having a problem flash on all inputs with versions 1.1 and up (not version 1). Contacted DVDO and Larry helped resolve the problem with a Beta firmware that is in development.

I’m on the PAL system.

I would like to post a heads up to Larry from DVDO. I was having a problem flash on all inputs with versions 1.1 and up (not version 1). Contacted DVDO and Larry helped resolve the problem with a Beta firmware that is in development.

I’m on the PAL system.

does this beta update work all right.

what are the changes with this update.

http://www.anchorbaytech.com/dvdo_edge/EDGE_firmware_v1.1.php

does this beta update work all right.

My post answers your question:rolleyes:

My post answers your question:rolleyes:

Am sorry I did see your post:o

I am trying to help someone with a problem with a new Edge with latest firmware he just got from me

when he tries to turn it on with the Edge remote, he gets a purple light and has to reset it

My guess is the Edge remote is in a universal remote mode and is sending out a code that is causing the Edge to lock up

I told him to hit the DVDO button first, then try it

does that sound correct?

Mark

I am trying to help someone with a problem with a new Edge with latest firmware he just got from me

when he tries to turn it on with the Edge remote, he gets a purple light and has to reset it

My guess is the Edge remote is in a universal remote mode and is sending out a code that is causing the Edge to lock up

I told him to hit the DVDO button first, then try it

does that sound correct?

Mark

It does to me. I had to hit the DVDO button a couple of times—but I had the red light. I think I'd hit a stray button by mistake or something and the unit refused to recognize a signal.

What is the round button on the front panel ?
I couldn't find the instruction to open the HDMI6 input so I pressed that button and it disappeared inside. Now there's just a hole.

^The round button is the IR sensor. HDMI6 is the rectangular thing to the right of the sensor, gently push the bottom edge and it should rotate into position.

What is the round button on the front panel ?
I couldn't find the instruction to open the HDMI6 input so I pressed that button and it disappeared inside. Now there's just a hole.

You have to get you finger tip and tap down on it should come down very easy for 6 HDMI, now you have to open your EDGE to fixes the remote sensor:(

thank you.
no wonder I couldn't find the ir sensor anywhere on the front panel when I tried to stick the MRF-250's RF-IR flasher.
It's working now with the flasher pointing inside the hole.
Opening the Edge now would void the warranty, I suppose.

thank you.
no wonder I couldn't find the ir sensor anywhere on the front panel when I tried to stick the MRF-250's RF-IR flasher.
It's working now with the flasher pointing inside the hole.
Opening the Edge now would void the warranty, I suppose.

It won't void the warranty an loss there any type of sticker around the DVDO that if remove will void the warranty .

I did see any on my one.:)

So this weekend I started to have a issue with the Edge and my PS3. I was getting sound, but no video with my PS3. I moved the PS3 from HDMI 2 to HDMI 3 and everything was fine.

Has anyone else had a similar issue? Thanks.

So this weekend I started to have a issue with the Edge and my PS3. I was getting sound, but no video with my PS3. I moved the PS3 from HDMI 2 to HDMI 3 and everything was fine.

Has anyone else had a similar issue? Thanks.

I think jedi.master.dre had/has a similar issue? Time to utilize the search function.

I saw his post, but didn't see him find a solution. I will have to see if my cable box works on HDMI 2.

So anyone who was having issues with the newest firmware I wanted to let you know that Larry at DVDO can send you a beta verison that seems to be working. I was getting really bad dropout's and a jumpy screen, but so far have had no issue with the beta Larry sent me.

Also my PS3 problems seem to have gone away as well, but it's only day one so I will keep everyone posted. Thanks for everyone's help.

I am having problems with the new software. The Edge is having problem in detecting the incoming signal and showing green light (with my projector screen flashing) often. Maybe someone can help me out here. Please give me advice on the following questions as well.
1. I was wondering whether I should always leave the Edge connected to an outlet wich is "always on" vs a "switched" outlet.
2. I was always incorporting an extra step of switching on the Edge in the harmony remote setup. Do I need this extra step?

I am having problems with the new software. The Edge is having problem in detecting the incoming signal and showing green light (with my projector screen flashing) often. Maybe someone can help me out here. Please give me advice on the following questions as well.
1. I was wondering whether I should always leave the Edge connected to an outlet wich is "always on" vs a "switched" outlet.
2. I was always incorporting an extra step of switching on the Edge in the harmony remote setup. Do I need this extra step?

I was having a similar issue with the flashing screen and after installing beta firmware from DVDO it seems to have helped.

Also Larry mentioned a output frame lock feature in the advanced settings. Below is from his email.

If it does not, this firmware also has a new feature called “Output Frame Lock.” This feature gives you the ability to unlock the input and output timing. This may resolve the problem if it is caused by timing instability from an input source that propagates through EDGE to your display. Output Frame Lock is located in the menus at this path:

Main Menu > Settings > Advanced Controls > Output Frame Lock

2. I was always incorporting an extra step of switching on the Edge in the harmony remote setup. Do I need this extra step?

I use the auto on feature in the EDGE and it comes on when I turn an input device on, my Harmony remote doesn't go near the EDGE. :)

Thanks Joe741. I will try that.

factorz,
I sent an email to help at dvdo. In the mean time, if you can pm me the beta version that you received from Larry, I will be grateful. Thanks.

I use the auto on feature in the EDGE and it comes on when I turn an input device on, my Harmony remote doesn't go near the EDGE. :)



I use the on/off with my two EDGEs with my two Harmony remotes. I've had no issues with either EDGE using my Harmony remote with it and turning the EDGE on and Off. I don't use the auto input select either. I have my Harmony programed to change the EDGE to the correct input. Zero problems.

I have figured out. The main culprit is my a/v receiver Onkyo 805, which is possibly creating the timing instability. The flashing screen is going away if I switch off the a/v receiver. But then I don't get any sound. :( I wonder if re-ordering the power on sequence of the equipments could solve the problem.

I had similar problem last time when I upgraded the Edge. I received some beta version from Joerod last time around.


I was having a similar issue with the flashing screen and after installing beta firmware from DVDO it seems to have helped.

Also Larry mentioned a output frame lock feature in the advanced settings. Below is from his email.

If it does not, this firmware also has a new feature called “Output Frame Lock.” This feature gives you the ability to unlock the input and output timing. This may resolve the problem if it is caused by timing instability from an input source that propagates through EDGE to your display. Output Frame Lock is located in the menus at this path:

Main Menu > Settings > Advanced Controls > Output Frame Lock

I have the beta in my one and not one problem yet.

I am a n00b here. Just bought DVDO edge at $427 from amazon.com. All credits go to slickdeals.net

Well I cannot post URL here. So The coupon code is HIDEF2OO and the seller must be amazon.com not 3rd parties.

So my first question is :-)

Which sources should be passed thru DVDO edge and which should go directly to my LG 47LH70? My AVR is Denon 1509.

1. Wii
2. Oppo DVD 891
3. PCH A110
4. Dell Studio Hybrid

TIA

I am a n00b here. Just bought DVDO edge at $xxx from amazon.com. All credits go to slickdeals.net

Well I cannot post URL here. So The coupon code is HIDEF2OO and the seller must be amazon.com not 3rd parties.

So my first question is :-)

Which sources should be passed thru DVDO edge and which should go directly to my LG 47LH70? My AVR is Denon 1509.

1. Wii
2. Oppo DVD 891
3. PCH A110
4. Dell Studio Hybrid

TIA

WOW! That is an excellent price with the $200 coupon. I might need to pick up a third one to replace my VP50pro.

Run all video sources through the EDGE.

The only source I don't run through my EDGE is my OPPO 980, but I only use it for SACD and DVD-A and the EDGE doesn't handle DSD over HDMi which was the reason I got the OPPO 980.

Well I was hoping the new beta firmware was going to fix my issues, but still a few bugs to work out. Last night during the finals I was having video dropouts during the first half. Screen would go black and then flash green before it would come back.

Also to anyone who has a Wii with component cables are you setting the Wii to 480i or 480p in the Wii settings screen?

Have they fixed the no HD audio for Denon yet?

I have no problem with my Denon 3808. There was one firmware which had problems when switching to HBR audio and I had to hit that Denon input button again, but otherwise I've had no problem with DTS-HD MA or Dolby True HD.

I have no problem with my Denon 3808. There was one firmware which had problems when switching to HBR audio and I had to hit that Denon input button again, but otherwise I've had no problem with DTS-HD MA or Dolby True HD.

Have they released a new firmware to fix that issue? Because I know with the Denons you had to hit that input button again to get it working.

Also to anyone who has a Wii with component cables are you setting the Wii to 480i or 480p in the Wii settings screen?

Good question; my Wii is set at 480p and we output over component to the Edge.

My guess is that the Wii natively renders game video at 480p but then processes the video signal to output 480i if you have to use the composite jack.

The Edge will certainly do a top-knotch job de-interlacing but it seems like needless processing.

I'll do some 480i/p toggling today while the kids are playing and see if there's a noticeable difference.

You could also email Nintendo to get an "official answer"; I found the Wii manual is a bit vague on this topic.

Good question; my Wii is set at 480p and we output over component to the Edge.

My guess is that the Wii natively renders game video at 480p but then processes the video signal to output 480i if you have to use the composite jack.

The Edge will certainly do a top-knotch job de-interlacing but it seems like needless processing.

I'll do some 480i/p toggling today while the kids are playing and see if there's a noticeable difference.

You could also email Nintendo to get an "official answer"; I found the Wii manual is a bit vague on this topic.


I have do some 480i/p myself and really couldn't see a huge difference, but wanted to see what others think.

Looks like my unit is headed back to the factory as the issues I was having were not going away. I had hoped the beta would fix it, but it did not. DVDO has been great and didn't hesitate to send me a RMA to fix the issue.

Yes, a Wii will natively render most (if not all) Wii games at 480p. Additionally, it will render many GameCube games at 480p, but you might have to hold down the B button while loading the game to turn 480p mode on—a holdover from how a real GameCube used to do it. If you can hook up a Wii in 480p over component, you should.

hello ,

i have a problem with my edge . i have red light on , but i dont get any picture , just pinkish screen . when i try to change inputs with remote , nothing hapens . i have disconected the edge from power couple of times , but there is always just red light on the edge and i cant do anything else . i have used the edge for well over 6 months now and didnt have any major problems . please help

grega

I saw his post, but didn't see him find a solution. I will have to see if my cable box works on HDMI 2.

Is it possible the Edge has a hardware issue with the PS3 using HDMI 2?

Hey guys looking to pull the trigger on this one but before I do I wanted to know if there was any audio drop outs...I had a problem with this on the vp30 I bought and sold a couple years ago.

Thanks

aaronwt,
Why would you replace the VP50pro with the edge? For the GUI which looks nice?
I wonder if DVDO could do a software update to the 50pro to get the same nice GUI as the edge.

Hey guys looking to pull the trigger on this one but before I do I wanted to know if there was any audio drop outs...I had a problem with this on the vp30 I bought and sold a couple years ago.

Thanks

I have had my EDGE for 1 week now and running the latest firmware, and not one Audio dropout at all:). The Edge is a excellent product from DVDO am thinking of buying other for my bed room.

Is it possible the Edge has a hardware issue with the PS3 using HDMI 2?

Good question. My PS3 started working agian on HDMI 2 after unplugging everything, but my unit is still going back. Hope DVDO can fix all the issues I have been having.

Sorry if I gave the impression that my projector was not calibrated before I added the Edge. I had the brightness and contrast set exactly the way I liked them before I got the Edge. I plugged in the Edge and instantly my wife and I noticed that everything was too dark. I have had to add +7 to the Brightness and -12 to the Contrast in the Edge to get the same effect I had before introducing the Edge.

You're certainly not doing anything wrong. My displays are calibrated, and I have to run EDGE at +7 for Brightness and -14 for contrast. Also -22 for Saturation.

Come to think of it... that is a bit strange that it needs to be done :D

You're certainly not doing anything wrong. My displays are calibrated, and I have to run EDGE at +7 for Brightness and -14 for contrast. Also -22 for Saturation.
Come to think of it... that is a bit strange that it needs to be done :D

Thank goodness I'm not the only one. I tried setting the colorspace, but it made no difference. I did lower the Saturation... I forget how much but nowhere near as much as you did.
I thought it was interesting that it was required to make those changes, and was quite relieved that Edge allows me to correct the problem so easily.

I have figured out. The main culprit is my a/v receiver Onkyo 805, which is possibly creating the timing instability. The flashing screen is going away if I switch off the a/v receiver. But then I don't get any sound. :( I wonder if re-ordering the power on sequence of the equipments could solve the problem.

I had similar problem last time when I upgraded the Edge. I received some beta version from Joerod last time around.

Sounds like a similar issue I had with the edge. Your not feeding the signal directly to the Edge so you Cable box won't snyc up to the Edge properly. I didn't get audio when I powered up the TV etc * I have a flea connected in between the cablebox and the Edge...it seems that when I left the TV off for an hour or 2...this period allowed the Edge to permanently sync up with the cable-box signal properly.

I did not activate the hot-wire function either.

Try leaving the Edge connected to all your equipment for an hour or 2> * without turning off your receiver possibly. My cable-box has a standby mode, and my flea is always on. So if the signal is disconnected you might not get proper syncing with the Edge etc.

hello ,

i have a problem with my edge . i have red light on , but i dont get any picture , just pinkish screen . when i try to change inputs with remote , nothing hapens . i have disconected the edge from power couple of times , but there is always just red light on the edge and i cant do anything else . i have used the edge for well over 6 months now and didnt have any major problems . please help

grega



Sounds similar to what I had, except the screen was purple/blue.

I sent mine in and Anchor Bay got it Monday afternoon. We'll see what happens.

Jerry

For some reason my Edge will not stay in 1080p24 mode....I have to reset it every time i turn it back on.....it reverts to Auto mode and my PJ says its 1080p60....any one else have this problem?....Any ideas? Am i doing something wrong?

For some reason my Edge will not stay in 1080p24 mode....I have to reset it every time i turn it back on.....it reverts to Auto mode and my PJ says its 1080p60....any one else have this problem?....Any ideas? Am i doing something wrong?

Not sure about the cause but will the workaround below do it for you ?

Have you tried turning on 1:1 Framerate in the Settings->Advanced Controls.

When it sees 24p material the EDGE should put out 24p (unless it
broken in the latest firmware...)

Won't work if the source material is not 24p like DVD

Thanks for your response. It may not be the exact same issue. I am feeding all video signals directly to Edge (all through HDMI connections). The amplifier is for sound only (audio only HDMI out).

I went back to last stable version of the firmware (v1.0 version 052) with zero problems. I sent an email to Larry at DVDO. I am waiting for his response. By the way, the most recent beta firmware v1.2.1_084 is not working for me.

Problem solved. I needed to select the audio out on audio hdmi rather than the default option of auto select. Now I really feel stupid.


Sounds like a similar issue I had with the edge. Your not feeding the signal directly to the Edge so you Cable box won't snyc up to the Edge properly. I didn't get audio when I powered up the TV etc * I have a flea connected in between the cablebox and the Edge...it seems that when I left the TV off for an hour or 2...this period allowed the Edge to permanently sync up with the cable-box signal properly.

I did not activate the hot-wire function either.

Try leaving the Edge connected to all your equipment for an hour or 2> * without turning off your receiver possibly. My cable-box has a standby mode, and my flea is always on. So if the signal is disconnected you might not get proper syncing with the Edge etc.

Edge by default uses RGB colorspace. I would bet that if you switched Edge to Ycc that the settings would go back to where you had them last.

This is exactly what happens with my Samsung DLP. The resulting Contrast and Brightness calibration points are different depending on whether the set is receiving RGB or YCC.

You should calibrate the display to the Edge before you mess with the device calibrations... Edge is your reference 'pattern generator'.

Just purchased an EDGE and have a question. My unit designates itself as version 1.1, and all functions seem to work as advertised, except the following from the DVDO website:
"Firmware v1.1
Release date: December 10, 2008
What's new in EDGE Firmware Release 1.1 over v1.0?

Output Color Space: choose between RGB, YCbCr 4:4:4, YCbCr 4:2:2
Output Colorimetry: choose between ITU.601 or ITU.709 color standards, or let EDGE choose automatically"


For some reason, I have been unable to access the "Output Color Space" or "Output Colorimetry" functions. They are listed within the "Advanced Controls" menu. However, they are grayed-out, giving me no option except the default. The "Information" button reveals that input color space is defaulting to "YCbCr 422 (BT.709)" with my Blu-Ray player on, while the output defaults to "RGB (Video)". With the Blu-Ray player off, both input and output color spaces default to "RGB (Video)". As it is, I cannot choose any other option and the control is apparently inaccessible. Have I overlooked something in the menus that would give me access?

Just as I was about to submit this post, the thought occurred to me that maybe the source itself (Panasonic Blu-Ray player BDP-60) has a default output setting that is limiting the EDGE functionality in this area. I will investigate this as soon as time permits. In the meantime, I'll go ahead and post---any thoughts will be appreciated.

aaronwt,
Why would you replace the VP50pro with the edge? For the GUI which looks nice?
I wonder if DVDO could do a software update to the 50pro to get the same nice GUI as the edge.

The EDGE is more user friendly and is really all I need. If I would have known the EDGE was going tobe so good, I would have sold my VP50pro when I could have received a premium price for it. Now the value is much lower.

The input to the EDGE is dependent on the video source. My BD30 and BD35 both output 422 into my EDGE. While my LG BH200 combo players output RGB into my EDGE, and my TiVos all output 444 into my EGDE.
Since you can't change the output from RGB, are you sure your set accepts non RGB inputs(?)? Also try updating the EDGE to the newest firmware.

I am a n00b here. Just bought DVDO edge at $427 from amazon.com. All credits go to slickdeals.net

Well I cannot post URL here. So The coupon code is HIDEF2OO and the seller must be amazon.com not 3rd parties.

So my first question is :-)

Which sources should be passed thru DVDO edge and which should go directly to my LG 47LH70? My AVR is Denon 1509.

1. Wii
2. Oppo DVD 891
3. PCH A110
4. Dell Studio Hybrid

TIA

Hello Apinunw,

I have just sent you a PM regarding your Edge purchase on Amazon. Please check it. Thank you.

Michaelmorio

Hello Apinunw,

I have just sent you a PM regarding your Edge purchase on Amazon. Please check it. Thank you.

Michaelmorio


Arrrrggg I cannot reply to your message unless I post something 3 times :mad:

Hope I won't be banned :p

I took some screen shots going trough the EDGE using Blu-ray.

What does it mean unless you show Blu-ray without the Edge?

Just wondering what people think of these features and what are you settings? Seems like my SD Cable benefit's the most from it, but sometimes I wonder if it's doing anything at all.

I can't make up my mind on settings for SD sources either :-). For satellite I just turned MNR to high, and 30 for edge and detail and have left it alone ever sense. I took that as "low" in terms of "low", "med", or "high" for a value of 30. I had a hard time seeing much differences except for MNR where I could tell right away. However, I didn't get very involved with the process and have been too lazy to spend time making evaluations. I would love to hear what other people are using. I'm game for changes.

I'm running the latest firmware on my Edge but would still get audio dropouts bitstreaming with lossless formats from my OPPO BDP-83. Well yesterday OPPO released a beta firmware and the audio dropouts are gone!
Everything now is working properly.......
Tom

I'm running the latest firmware on my Edge but would still get audio dropouts bitstreaming with lossless formats from my OPPO BDP-83. Well yesterday OPPO released a beta firmware and the audio dropouts are gone!
Everything now is working properly.......
Tom

Did you compare the BDP-83 w/ edge to the BDP-83 straight to your display? Do you have the edge set to pass through? Just wondering image-wise if the edge benefits the BDP-83 at all.

Did you compare the BDP-83 w/ edge to the BDP-83 straight to your display? Do you have the edge set to pass through? Just wondering image-wise if the edge benefits the BDP-83 at all.
So far I've only used the BDP-83 for Blu-Ray playback. I set the BDP-83 to Source Direct mode. Although I have hooked it up direct and see no difference. My main reason for the Edge is for a good switcher for my 6 HDMI and 1 component inputs, and to improve my cable box, TiVo, etc...

I'm running the latest firmware on my Edge but would still get audio dropouts bitstreaming with lossless formats from my OPPO BDP-83. Well yesterday OPPO released a beta firmware and the audio dropouts are gone!
Everything now is working properly.......
Tom

What is the firmware version?

what is the firmware version?

DVDO EDGE:
edge_121_084

OPPO BDP-83:
Public Beta Test Version
Release date: June 11, 2009. This version is a public beta test version.
Category: Public Beta Release

Main Version: BDP83-27-0601
Loader Version: BE2400 85752400
Sub Version: MCU83-23-0513

so far i've only used the bdp-83 for blu-ray playback. I set the bdp-83 to source direct mode. Although i have hooked it up direct and see no difference. My main reason for the edge is for a good switcher for my 6 hdmi and 1 component inputs, and to improve my cable box, tivo, etc...

and what would you say is the improvement in your cable hdtv? Can you post comparison pics?

Here is the equipment that I have:

Pioneer Elite 141 Plasma
Yamaha RX-v1900 AVR
DirecTV HD DVR
Toshiba HD-XA2 HD-DVD Player
LG BH-200 Blu-Ray/HD-DVD Combo Player
Oppo BDP-83 Blu-Ray Player (getting this week)
Sony DVP-CX995V 400 Disc DVD Player

The Pioneer 141 has been ISF calibrated using ControlCal, Calman and an i1Pro colorimeter.

Tell me how the Edge will improve my PQ?

Would you recommend hooking only the DirecTV DVR and 400 disc DVD player to the Edge or all components?

Thanks for you help.

Jim

your gear seems pretty nice- my answer to your specific question ("how will it improve my PQ") is: not a lot. but it will give you some connection options you might find useful.

the traditional advice is all sources go into edge, and the edge outputs video to the pioneer and audio to the yamaha (both over HDMI).

of course you may need to recalibrate things with the edge in the chain.

Yes not much. Basically an expensive switcher/hub.

Here is the equipment that I have:

Pioneer Elite 141 Plasma
Yamaha RX-v1900 AVR
DirecTV HD DVR
Toshiba HD-XA2 HD-DVD Player
LG BH-200 Blu-Ray/HD-DVD Combo Player
Oppo BDP-83 Blu-Ray Player (getting this week)
Sony DVP-CX995V 400 Disc DVD Player

The Pioneer 141 has been ISF calibrated using ControlCal, Calman and an i1Pro colorimeter.

Tell me how the Edge will improve my PQ?

Would you recommend hooking only the DirecTV DVR and 400 disc DVD player to the Edge or all components?

Thanks for you help.

Jim

It should improve your DVDs, based upon my experience. Indeed, any SD source should benefit. I haven't done extensive comparisons on BD, so I'll leave that one alone. Besides, it may depend on your setup.

and what would you say is the improvement in your cable hdtv? Can you post comparison pics?

No difference for an HD signal which looks great either way on my Pioneer FD6010, but, improvement on a SD signal. Also some SD movies are black spaced top and bottom. The Edge zoom feature works great! with hardly no degradation. The Edge scalar appears to be better than a cable box scalar.

I've been experiencing video/audio drop outs on my Oppo 970 dvd player, does the 1.2.2 beta address that issue?

http://www.anchorbaytech.com/dvdo_edge/EDGE_firmware_v1.1.php

I've been experiencing video/audio drop outs on my Oppo 970 dvd player, does the 1.2.2 beta address that issue?

http://www.anchorbaytech.com/dvdo_edge/EDGE_firmware_v1.1.php

The 970 has been troublesome from the start. I haven't had that particular issue with mine, but it doesn't play well with the EDGE (or vice versa) in general. I now run it to my amp first.

Do you play SACD or DVD-Audio? If so could you check if discs with a sampling frequency greater than 48kHz make it through the EDGE as is, or if their resolution is dropped (with the player set to 1080i of course etc etc).

Firmware v1.2.2 (beta)
Release date: June 15, 2009


What's new in EDGE Firmware v1.2.2 compared to v1.2.1?


Includes a fix for supporting TrueHD and DTS-HD MA audio formats.
Includes a new feature called “Output Frame Lock” that provides more options for handling input and output frame rate and timing variations. In some cases, this feature may provide smoother operation when switching input sources or formats.


Would appretiate if someone could explain in detail what the new feature “Output Frame Lock” does and what parameters it introduces.

thanks

The 970 has been troublesome from the start. I haven't had that particular issue with mine, but it doesn't play well with the EDGE (or vice versa) in general. I now run it to my amp first.

Do you play SACD or DVD-Audio? If so could you check if discs with a sampling frequency greater than 48kHz make it through the EDGE as is, or if their resolution is dropped (with the player set to 1080i of course etc etc).

Don't do SACD or DVD-Audio. :(

I did have to connect a dig. coax between the 970 and EDGE in addition to the HDMI cable because I couldn't get DD5.1 or DTS over HDMI. The 970 has the latest firmware and I've been told that I could get DD5.1 and DTS over HDMI by downgrading firmware but Oppo advised against it.

Would appretiate if someone could explain in detail what the new feature “Output Frame Lock” does and what parameters it introduces.

thanks

Output Frame Lock gives you the option to run the output unlocked from the input. This decouples the input and output timing, so that any changes in the input do not propogate to the output. In some cases, set top boxes make minor adjustments to their output timings. For example, they may output 59.94Hz while playing video, and 60Hz when displaying the menus. When these changes propogate through EDGE to the output, it can cause a momentary disruption in the output as the display re-syncs. Unlocking input and output would eliminate that disruption.

Another advantage of unlocking the output is that HDCP authentication will not be required every time you switch inputs, or when input formats change. This can make switching inputs or changing formats a little smoother and faster.

A potential downside of unlocking input and output is that you may get an occasional repeated frame or dropped frame. This will happen so rarely that you may never see it.

Ive found that the 1.2.2 beta still resets audio delay back to zero when Edge is power cycled.

Can anybody else verify this please....

Output Frame Lock gives you the option to run the output unlocked from the input. This decouples the input and output timing, so that any changes in the input do not propogate to the output. In some cases, set top boxes make minor adjustments to their output timings. For example, they may output 59.94Hz while playing video, and 60Hz when displaying the menus. When these changes propogate through EDGE to the output, it can cause a momentary disruption in the output as the display re-syncs. Unlocking input and output would eliminate that disruption.

Another advantage of unlocking the output is that HDCP authentication will not be required every time you switch inputs, or when input formats change. This can make switching inputs or changing formats a little smoother and faster.

A potential downside of unlocking input and output is that you may get an occasional repeated frame or dropped frame. This will happen so rarely that you may never see it.

How does this work with the 1 to 1 frame lock setting? I have output set to 1080 60p now with 1 to 1 frame lock. If the DVDO receives 1080 24P it will output this. If I use the new feature to unlock will I be able to still output 1080 24p when received?

Barry

How does this work with the 1 to 1 frame lock setting? I have output set to 1080 60p now with 1 to 1 frame lock. If the DVDO receives 1080 24P it will output this. If I use the new feature to unlock will I be able to still output 1080 24p when received?

Barry

Unlocked output does not override 1:1 framerate. 24p in = 24p out. It is the equivalent of genlock on/off on Lumagen scalers.

Here is the equipment that I have:

Pioneer Elite 141 Plasma
Yamaha RX-v1900 AVR
DirecTV HD DVR
Toshiba HD-XA2 HD-DVD Player
LG BH-200 Blu-Ray/HD-DVD Combo Player
Oppo BDP-83 Blu-Ray Player (getting this week)
Sony DVP-CX995V 400 Disc DVD Player

The Pioneer 141 has been ISF calibrated using ControlCal, Calman and an i1Pro colorimeter.

Tell me how the Edge will improve my PQ?

Would you recommend hooking only the DirecTV DVR and 400 disc DVD player to the Edge or all components?

Thanks for you help.

Jim
Anything that needs deinterlaced (DVDs, SD) should be handled better by the EDGE. The same should apply to scaling, though I haven't done a direct comparison myself.

The EDGE will give you black 4:3 bars, rather than the light grey Pioneer forces on you.

One of the bigger differences (in my opinion) is that the EDGE does good chroma upsampling, whereas the Pioneer does not.

EDGE outputting 4:4:4 and doing the chroma upsampling:
http://i42.tinypic.com/15noh7p.jpg

EDGE outputting 4:2:2 and having the Pioneer handle it. (in this case, a KRP600M)
http://i40.tinypic.com/1z6va5e.jpg

How noticeable this is depends on how close you're sitting and what you're watching though. Some people don't notice this at all with video content.

Some of us don't have that issue. If it's not there you can't notice it.

Some of us don't have that issue. If it's not there you can't notice it.
What display are you using? I thought it applied to all the recent Pioneers.

One of the bigger differences (in my opinion) is that the EDGE does good chroma upsampling, whereas the Pioneer does not.
Is it possible that the EDGE does poor chroma downsampling of the DVDO logo, and the Pioneer is not to blame?

Is it possible that the EDGE does poor chroma downsampling of the DVDO logo, and the Pioneer is not to blame?
Well, I don't think we can repeat everything that was on the beta forums, but the conclusion was that it's the TV and not the EDGE.

From my own post over there testing out what different conditions would look like:

1: Original 4:4:4 image.
2: No filtering when down or upsampling.
3: Bilinear interpolation when downsampled, nothing when upsampling.
4: Bilinear interpolation down and up.
5: Bilinear interpolation on upsampling only.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2pouomr.png http://i43.tinypic.com/11hchmh.png http://i42.tinypic.com/ego1ud.png http://i42.tinypic.com/142yfy9.png http://i42.tinypic.com/30n7j2h.png

If I remember correctly, we decided that the Pioneer looks most like #2 (the faint bits in the photo are just camera shake) with the EDGE simply discarding every other sample to get to 4:2:2, and the display not doing any kind of ‘smart’ upsampling. (simply doubling the width of each sample)


A very quick snap of the EDGE outputting 4:2:2 to my HW10 (it's only been on about a minute so it's not properly focused yet)

http://i41.tinypic.com/2461ev6.jpg

I normally send RGB to my EDGE anyway, as I use it with a CRT as well as my HW10, and it can only take RGB.

This should only apply if you're sending 4:2:2 out from your source to the display anyway—if your source does proper chroma upsampling that is.

The EDGE does a good job of chroma upsampling though, so if your source and/or display does not, that's an upgrade you might not have expected.

I normally send RGB to my EDGE anyway, as I use it with a CRT as well as my HW10, and it can only take RGB.


Safe to assume the "it" is solely referring to the "CRT" portion of your sentence?

Apologies if this seems like nitpicking since it seems somewhat confusing as expressed, as well as contradicting what I understand (and read) of my HW10 specs.

ted

Safe to assume the "it" is solely referring to the "CRT" portion of your sentence?

Apologies if this seems like nitpicking since it seems somewhat confusing as expressed, as well as contradicting what I understand (and read) of my HW10 specs.

ted
Yes, sorry. The HW10 will take RGB, YCC 4:4:4 and YCC 4:2:2.

The CRT (VGA monitor hooked up with an HDFury v1) can only display RGB though, so because I switch between the two displays, I just run the EDGE in RGB to avoid having to change settings all the time.

Have they released a new firmware to fix that issue? Because I know with the Denons you had to hit that input button again to get it working.

Hello,
Has anybody tried it with the Marantz SR7002/8002 receivers?

I am thinking about buying the Edge but only if it can bypass the beatsream HD audio formats to My Marantz SR8002.

Thanks,
Zsolt

I ordered a DVDO Edge today. Looking at the best place to put it. How sensitive is the Edge to heat? I have a Yamaha RX-V1900 and was thinking of placing the Edge on top of it. My other option is on top of my DirecTV DVR. Both emit about the same heat level. Thanks.

Jim

My EDGE is placed just over Yamaha since half a year.
Yami is warm , EDGE too but not so much.
By this time EDGE never switched off itself because of the temperature reason.
When the EDGE will come to you check first the firmware at once.
Do the update to the last version 1.2.2 if any former one is inside.
The earlier version 1.2.1 did not worked properly , I found the problem with reconizing by EDGE the type of the audio signals , DTS-HD, in HDMI in some cases.
All components of my system are fed to Yamaha RXV-1900 directly by HDMI.
When I switched the input eg. from sat receiver to the blu ray player, EDGE could not find the digital signal of blu player and switched it into the analog source. The video was excellent but just in this case without sound.
I do not want to describe here all those cases.
It was several cases to find sound but very unconfortable.
When the 1.2.1 was replaced by former firmware 1.1 there was no problem with sound.
When finally the 1.2.2 was entered into the EDGE since that time EDGE works perfectly.
Regards,
Lesli

Anyone know the best way to hook up a mac mini to the edge? Maybe VGA to S-Video or component?

Anyone know the best way to hook up a mac mini to the edge? Maybe VGA to S-Video or component?
DVI to HDMI lead?

Anyone know the best way to hook up a mac mini to the edge? Maybe VGA to S-Video or component?

Digital all the way! I definitely think that the best way is to use DVI-HDMI cable + optical cable for audio (used reguar cables from monoprice.com)! Can adjust (scale) for Mac Mini problems with not scaling to cover entire 1080p screen that some have experienced after last OS X updates on other forums. Also, with the latest DVDO 1.2.2. firmware, HDMI will resync when Mac wakes up from sleep mode. Add a little PLEX and you have a great system setup (at least I think so).

DVI to HDMI lead?

Digital all the way! I definitely think that the best way is to use DVI-HDMI cable + optical cable for audio (used reguar cables from monoprice.com)! Can adjust (scale) for Mac Mini problems with not scaling to cover entire 1080p screen that some have experienced after last OS X updates on other forums. Also, with the latest DVDO 1.2.2. firmware, HDMI will resync when Mac wakes up from sleep mode. Add a little PLEX and you have a great system setup (at least I think so).

Awesome, thanks guys, I don't know why this didn't occur to me.

This should be fine for the DVI to HDMI (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023102&p_id=2218&seq=1&format=2), correct?

And the Toslink to 3.55 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022902&p_id=1557&seq=1&format=2)

Much thanks for the info!

Tom

I ordered a DVDO Edge today. Looking at the best place to put it. How sensitive is the Edge to heat? I have a Yamaha RX-V1900 and was thinking of placing the Edge on top of it. My other option is on top of my DirecTV DVR. Both emit about the same heat level. Thanks.

Jim

I wouldn't put anything on top of an AVR.

I'd probably put the DVR on top of the Edge.

Awesome, thanks guys, I don't know why this didn't occur to me.

This should be fine for the DVI to HDMI (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023102&p_id=2218&seq=1&format=2), correct?

And the Toslink to 3.55 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022902&p_id=1557&seq=1&format=2)

Much thanks for the info!

Tom

Looks like that should work fine, although I used the non-premium DVI-HDMI cable (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2404&seq=1&format=2) and it works great for me.

I wouldn't put anything on top of an AVR.
I'd probably put the DVR on top of the Edge.

Agreed - nothing should go on top of your receiver. It really would be best to put each component on its own shelf. If you cannot do that; put it under something light weight that is not constantly turned on (and generating heat) - your DVD player might be a better choice than your DVR.

Agreed - nothing should go on top of your receiver. It really would be best to put each component on its own shelf. If you cannot do that; put it under something light weight that is not constantly turned on (and generating heat) - your DVD player might be a better choice than your DVR.

Agreed, I just didn't see DVD player as an option.

I have my Sony Blu ray player on top of my Edge and it is almost perfect in that depth wise my Blu ray player stops about a quarter of an inch before the Edge's vents at the rear of the unit. My rack is expandable but it's an old rack and I can't find extra shelves for it. No heat issues that I've noticed.

Just upgraded from 1.1 to 1.22. Things were initially quite screwy with the 4:3 AR button just giving a coloured screen and a few other things, but used the menu option to restore to factory presets and now all is good.

I have frame rate locked to 1:1, but I have to set output manually to 1080p50hz or 60hz for some reason - I lose the picture if I have it on auto. Odd.

Any insights on this would be appreciated.

The past few days I've had audio dropouts while watching the Red Sox (channel 851 on the Boston/Brookline Comcast lineup). No problems with other channels or sources.

The audio comes back if I change to a different channel for a moment. Power cycling the Edge, the AVR or power cycling all components at once does not restore audio. I know the channel's audio stream is OK because I have a Pio 4280 fed directly by an S3 in the bedroom with the same cable feed and that has audio during the dropouts in our entertainment room.

Our set up is Comcast by coax -> TiVo S3, HDMI out to EDGE (1.21) with audio out by HDMI to Pio VSX-94THX and video out by HDMI to Pio 6010.

Thanks.

Any insights on this would be appreciated.

The past few days I've had audio dropouts while watching the Red Sox (channel 851 on the Boston/Brookline Comcast lineup). No problems with other channels or sources.

The audio comes back if I change to a different channel for a moment. Power cycling the Edge, the AVR or power cycling all components at once does not restore audio. I know the channel's audio stream is OK because I have a Pio 4280 fed directly by an S3 in the bedroom with the same cable feed and that has audio during the dropouts in our entertainment room.

Our set up is Comcast by coax -> TiVo S3, HDMI out to EDGE (1.21) with audio out by HDMI to Pio VSX-94THX and video out by HDMI to Pio 6010.

Thanks.This may seem obvious, but I would suggest that you upgrade your firmware to 1.2.2 and report back.


Ken Whitcomb

I have frame rate locked to 1:1, but I have to set output manually to 1080p50hz or 60hz for some reason - I lose the picture if I have it on auto. Odd.

Perhaps you're having the same problem I was. I didn't understand 1:1 and had it turned on when I should not. I was told " your PS3 is outputting 24Hz and you have 1:1Frame Rate enabled in your EDGE. What is happening is that you are driving 24Hz from the PS3, through EDGE, and on to your display. The problem is that your display won’t accept 24Hz input."

My current setup is

Video+Audio: PCH A-110 and Dell Studio Hybrid --HDMI--> DVDO Edge --HDMI--> LG 47LH70YR
Audio: PCH A-110 and Dell Studio Hybird --TOSLINK--> Denon AVR 1905

So I can listen to LCD Speaker OR my 5.1 speakers. Now I want to add two sources, from Wii (1 component + 1 analog audio) and from cable box (1 S-video + 2 analog audio o/p). However I am stuck since DVD Edge has only one analog audio i/p. What should I do???

Any help would be highly appreciated. TIA

... I want to add two sources, from Wii (1 component + 1 analog audio) and from cable box (1 S-video + 2 analog audio o/p). However I am stuck since DVD Edge has only one analog audio i/p. ...

I think this really is best used as a pure HDMI solution (someone correct me if I'm wrong), so you might be better off with another DVDO product. However, you could plug everything into your receiver and have it's video output go to the Edge and then have the Edge output to your TV via HDMI.

I think this really is best used as a pure HDMI solution (someone correct me if I'm wrong), so you might be better off with another DVDO product. However, you could plug everything into your receiver and have it's video output go to the Edge and then have the Edge output to your TV via HDMI.

Thanks. Yes I wish I had an extra $500 to spend :):):) Oh I forgot to mention that my Denon DVR-1905 does not have HDMI o/p and i/p

Perhaps you're having the same problem I was. I didn't understand 1:1 and had it turned on when I should not. I was told " your PS3 is outputting 24Hz and you have 1:1Frame Rate enabled in your EDGE. What is happening is that you are driving 24Hz from the PS3, through EDGE, and on to your display. The problem is that your display won’t accept 24Hz input."


I thought my displays (Epson TW2000 and LG 32" Full HD LCD TV) both accepted 24fps.

Epson EMP-TW2000
Pull Down
2–2 pulldown and 2–3 pulldown
TW2000 corresponds with 2–3/2–2 pulldown. It is selectable in OSD menu in TW2000.
2–3 pulldown (60Hz): The image is smoother.
2–2 pulldown (48Hz): Each frame length is same as the original film.

Would I need to enable 2-2 pulldown? If I leave this on all the time are the likely to be any problems?

What Color Space Setting for my Edge? Thanks.

Jim

What Color Space Setting for my Edge? Thanks.

Jim

I feed my Pio Plasma YCC 4:4:4

I feed the Edge to Infocus 7210 projector. The default colorspace on Edge is RGB, but I can't change it no matter what the input is. The Output colorspace is grayed out on Edge. How do I force it to YCbCr?

The Edge firmware version is 1.21. I had 1.1 before and it had the same behavior. Any ideas?

Can the projector accept a non rgb input?

Yeah, it can. I am supplying it component input as well. Also, it has the colorspace input selection (Auto, RGB, REC 601 and REC 709) as well. I have set it to Auto.

I thought my displays (Epson TW2000 and LG 32" Full HD LCD TV) both accepted 24fps.

Would I need to enable 2-2 pulldown? If I leave this on all the time are the likely to be any problems?

Further to this:

I get these strange results on both the Epson and the LG.

With 1:1 framerate off and output set to AUTO, I get a picture, but slightly vertically reduced (small black strips at top and bottom of picture). 4:3 AR button gives no picture, but 4:3LB and 16:9 ok.

With 1:1 framerate on and output set to auto, no picture.

With 1:1 framerate on and output set to 1080p 50hz I get picture and "info" tells me input is 1080p24 and output is 1080p24 (unlocked).

With 1:1 framerate off and output set to 1080p 50hz get picture and "info" tells me input is 1080p24 and output is 1080p50 (unlocked).

I do have both displays connected by a hdmi splitter, but only one display on at a time, and the result is the same even with one display unplugged from the splitter. I haven't yet tried without the splitter entirely.

Wierd huh? Unless I have no clue, it seems that the settings are either buggy, or have no relationship to the result. I'm running 1.22 firmware.

So I've been running with "1:1 framerate on and output set to 1080p 50hz " as that seems to give the best result as far as "info" is concerned. Even in this mode with allegedly 24p output from the edge, swapping to 2:2 pulldown on the Epson makes no discernable difference to the picture.

I feed the Edge to Infocus 7210 projector. The default colorspace on Edge is RGB, but I can't change it no matter what the input is. The Output colorspace is grayed out on Edge. How do I force it to YCbCr?

The Edge firmware version is 1.21. I had 1.1 before and it had the same behavior. Any ideas?

Can the projector accept a non rgb input?

Yeah, it can. I am supplying it component input as well. Also, it has the colorspace input selection (Auto, RGB, REC 601 and REC 709) as well. I have set it to Auto.


I have encountered what appears to be the same issue. It's not a huge problem for me...except that it would be nice to have the option of trying colorspaces other than RGB, just to see if there is a significant difference.

I feed the Edge to Infocus 7210 projector. The default colorspace on Edge is RGB, but I can't change it no matter what the input is. The Output colorspace is grayed out on Edge. How do I force it to YCbCr?
The M1-DA port on the 7210 accomodates DVI, which is digital RGB only. Since HDMI connections can accomodate digital component or digital RGB, HDMI to M1-DA adapters will provide the digital input, but only as RGB.


Ken Whitcomb

Ken,

That explains it. Thanks

A while back I upgraded my EDGE to 1.2 from 1.1 but now realize I didn't power up the EDGE prior to upgrading as per instructions. The info screen shows fw as 1.2, so my question is: could installing firmware updates with the EDGE powered off have any negative consequences?

BTW, I use an old ibook and the Mac upater if it matters.

A while back I upgraded my EDGE to 1.2 from 1.1 but now realize I didn't power up the EDGE prior to upgrading as per instructions. The info screen shows fw as 1.2, so my question is: could installing firmware updates with the EDGE powered off have any negative consequences?

BTW, I use an old ibook and the Mac upater if it matters.
I wouldn't think the drive would show up with it powered off.

Powered off generally means its in standby. When you press the button the unit comes on and recognizes the folder.

I wasn't sure what happened as I couldn't see the front of the EDGE when I was upgrading. I just plugged the ibook into the nini-usb port, stuck a paper clip end into the reset hole and when the EDGE icon showed up I ran the updater. Short time later the EDGE icon disappeared and I unplugged the laptop, that's about it.

So I've been running with "1:1 framerate on and output set to 1080p 50hz " as that seems to give the best result as far as "info" is concerned.

Tested without splitter and all works as it should, so will stick to the above "workaround" when using the splitter.

Does anyone know what "output frame lock" is for? The manual doesn't talk about it at all.

Hey guys, quick question on the EDGE...
I understand that most people input their components directly into the EDGE, and then split the audio/video portions from there (audio to AVR, vid to TV)...but is that a requirement?

I have an Onkyo 706 AVR that has enough HDMIs (so far) to handle all of my components...so if I were to set my 706 to "through" all of my material directly to the EDGE...and then EDGE to TV...would that cause any issues?