View Full Version : PS3 DTS HD via analogue, Simple Question No One Has the Answer!!


NagysAudio
07-26-08, 09:42 PM
Does the PS3 take the Linear PCM track form a Bluray disc and converted into analogue and send it out through its analogue outs, or does it just convert regular DTS/Dolby Digital track to analogue. Can anyone answer this?

jesyjames
07-26-08, 10:06 PM
Well, the PS3 has no analogue outs. So the PS3 sends nothing out of analogue outs.

PCM tracks aren't "converted." If you send them through the HDMI connection then all the channels are in tact. If you choose to use the optical out you will only get two channels.

All of the new audio formats (dolby true HD, dts-hd, etc) can be converted to PCM and then sent out through the HDMI out.

The PS3 can convert regular Dolby Digital and DTS to PCM if you would like the PS3 to decode it instead of the receiver.

NagysAudio
07-26-08, 10:17 PM
PS3 does have analogue outputs! L/R

BIslander
07-27-08, 02:20 AM
I believe you get a two channel downmix of the lossless multichannel track, although I am not positive that's the case. The same goes from multichannel PCM output over optical. But, of course, if you attempt to send a TrueHD or dts-MA track over optical, you will get the companion DD or core DTS track instead.

sivadselim
07-27-08, 01:19 PM
What would be the point of 2 channel analogue DTS HD? I do not think it will downmix to 2-channel and still be HD. And even if it is, are you planning to still reproduce it as 2-channel or apply some sort of DSP like DPLII?

sound dropouts
07-27-08, 03:10 PM
What would be the point of 2 channel analogue DTS HD? I do not think it will downmix to 2-channel and still be HD. And even if it is, are you planning to still reproduce it as 2-channel or apply some sort of DSP like DPLII?

what is "HD"? the sound should still be high resolution and bit rate (48000 and 24 bit) just not in 7.1 channels. Of course, the ps3 probably has a sucky dac, but that is another topic.

sivadselim
07-27-08, 04:25 PM
what is "HD"?DTS HD is a lossless, high resolution audio codec. I assume the HD stands for High Definition. But that is irrelevant. The question being asked is whether the sampling rate and bitrate would be maintained when downmixed to 2-channel analog output.


the sound should still be high resolution and bit rate (48000 and 24 bit) just not in 7.1 channels.Why? Many devices downmix the audio to a lower quality when downmixing for 2-channel analog output.

atdamico
07-27-08, 09:14 PM
...Of course, the ps3 probably has a sucky dac, but that is another topic.

In fact, the PS3 works fantastic as a Blu-Ray player. Its DAC's are just fine, and it's ability to decode everything, and I mean everything, makes it one of the most flexible and economic player around.

Chino
07-27-08, 11:05 PM
what is "HD"? the sound should still be high resolution and bit rate (48000 and 24 bit) just not in 7.1 channels. Of course, the ps3 probably has a sucky dac, but that is another topic.

If you aren't familiar with the new codecs you should probably just move along now. This is not the thread you are looking for. I'll disregard the rest of that.

sound dropouts
07-27-08, 11:16 PM
If you aren't familiar with the new codecs you should probably just move along now. This is not the thread you are looking for. I'll disregard the rest of that.

I actually DO know about the codecs, and my question was rhetorical. no need to start flaming. I happen to know the ps3's capabilties. the fact is that is only has 2 channel analog output. I am not as familiar with it's analog output, but I would assume that it will not downsample (except in number of channels)

sound dropouts
07-27-08, 11:21 PM
n fact, the PS3 works fantastic as a Blu-Ray player. Its DAC's are just fine, and it's ability to decode everything, and I mean everything, makes it one of the most flexible and economic player around.

Where did I say that the PS3 was not a great blu ray player? I questioned the ability of its Digital to analog conversion for audio. Most people use hdmi or optical, which, being digital, does not mess with the digital to analog conversion.

Seeing as some people pay 1000s of dollars for proper DACs, I doubt that PS3 has good quality DACs. I would be happy to be proven wrong.

sivadselim
07-27-08, 11:46 PM
Where did I say that the PS3 was not a great blu ray player? I questioned the ability of its Digital to analog conversion for audio. Most people use hdmi or optical, which, being digital, does not mess with the digital to analog conversion.

Seeing as some people pay 1000s of dollars for proper DACs, I doubt that PS3 has good quality DACs. I would be happy to be proven wrong.I suspect its DACs are just fine.

sivadselim
07-27-08, 11:49 PM
...............but I would assume that it will not downsample (except in number of channels)Why? You criticized it's DACs, so why would you be surprised if it did downsample those multichannel hirez codecs when downsampling for 2-channel analog output? Can it output 2-channel analog SACD as hirez (I don't know, just asking)?

sound dropouts
07-27-08, 11:57 PM
Why? You criticized it's DACs, so why would you be surprised if it did downsample those multichannel hirez codecs when downsampling for 2-channel analog output? Can it output 2-channel analog SACD as hirez (I don't know, just asking)?

I would not be surprised. I was simply making assumptions. Those assumptions may be wrong, I hope they can either be verified or disproven.

since audio does not need to be downsampled to be sent out by analog, I assumed that it wasnt downsampled. And since the ps3 does a LOT for its low price, I assumed that the dacs were probably not the best.

sivadselim
07-28-08, 12:33 AM
since audio does not need to be downsampled to be sent out by analog, I assumed that it wasnt downsampled. No, it doesn't downsample CDs. And DD and DTS are already lossy, so it doesn't downsample those, either. But I do not know about the new hirez codecs. If it even has the ability to downmix them, it was probably added with a firmware upgrade. Passing them digitally is one thing. Decoding and downmixing them is another altogether. I wouldn't be surprised if it can't even downmix them to 2-channel analog.

But, honestly, I do not know.