Hopefully it is the uncut version that was released in Australia.

From DVDActive-

Sony Pictures Home Entertainment has announced a 3-disc collector's edition of Casino Royale which stars Daniel Craig and Eva Green. The film will be presented in 2.40:1 anamorphic widescreen, along with an English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround track. Extras will include 2 commentaries, deleted scenes, multiple behind the scenes featurettes, a Chris Cornell Music Video, Bond Girls are Forever (2006), a James Bond: For Real Documentary, a Becoming Bond documentary, filmmaker profiles, Catching a Plane: From Storyboard to Screen, and "e-Movie Cash" to see Quantum of Solace. A 2-disc Blu-ray release will also be available for $38.96.

This is really an atrocious act by Sony. Why double dip on a reasonably new release and rub more salt into the wound of the present owners.

Because they can and will make more money?

Its getting really old all these double dip films. It has gotten out of control with many titles and it just hurts the people who actually fork out the cash to buy copies. They want to stop piracy and all they do is make the fans who really enjoy films repeatedly buy it. I guess its up to us if it worth another buy.

I guess its up to us if it worth another buy.

Yes, the studios are not holding a gun to our heads and forcing us to double-dip. I couldn't care less about a studio re-releasing a movie so soon when the copy I already own does not spoil my enjoyment of the movie in any way. The current BD has quite commendable audio/video quality. If someone thinks that this new release provides a worthwhile upgrade, or simply doesn't own the movie yet, then that's just as good. This is something that we've grown accustomed to with DVD, and it will continue with Blu-ray.

will doublebuy it, but only when buy previous 20 bond movies, maybe then they'll re-release it with artwork that look more like Old Bond editions to look complete.

i think it'll have TruyeHD instead of PCM.
Or maybe even 7.1?

This is really an atrocious act by Sony. Why double dip on a reasonably new release and rub more salt into the wound of the present owners.

I'll tell you why. They will release it October 21st because the new James Bond movie, Quantom Of Solace, is hitting theatres October 31st. It's a quite normal marketing-ploy. Remember the Indiana Jones DVD re-release which tied in with the new movie coming to theatres? Anyhow, Disc 1 will probably be identical with the one out now, so I personally see no need to double-dip. :)

I'll tell you why. They will release it October 21st because the new James Bond movie, Quantom Of Solace, is hitting theatres October 31st. It's a quite normal marketing-ploy. Remember the Indiana Jones DVD re-release which tied in with the new movie coming to theatres? Anyhow, Disc 1 will probably be identical with the one out now, so I personally see no need to double-dip. :)
Bingo! I see no need to re-buy for some commentaries and some watch once.(if at all), featurettes. I'll save my pennies for the forthcoming older Bonds on Blu.

P.S. I imported the Dutch version. It was half the price of the Aussie version and fully uncut.

I doubt it's going to have any better PQ or AQ than the first version, so I don't care about it.

When it stops working, they'll stop doing it.

Don't buy them.

It has become deeply ingrained in our national culture. Too many people need the "biggest", the "best", the "latest". It's an unmitigated fever and obsession.

I doubt it's going to have any better PQ or AQ than the first version, so I don't care about it.

I agree...only way to get me to double dip would be a DTS HD MA 7.1 track.

I have the second release of the Bond sets (late 2003) that I watched in one week (watching all of these films requires a investment in time) during my company's year end shutdown. I also picked up the original Casino Royale and Never Say Never Again so I could watch every film in order.....

I passed on the "remastered" set a couple of years ago, and will probably pass on these piecemeal releases and wait until there's a complete set to purchase....

After buying the Dirty Harry Boxset a couple of months ago, I am a little hesitant about double dipping when the previous DVD releases of older films were "acceptable". I'm not a big fan of "reworked" soundtracks either.....

only way to get me to double dip would be a DTS HD MA 7.1 track.I agree...

it's likely to come with free movie ticket toward the sequel too. i highly doubt we'll get the uncut version. i've already imported mine from australia.

I'll double dip if there are deleted scenes of Eva in the cleavage dress.

This is really an atrocious act by Sony. Why double dip on a reasonably new release and rub more salt into the wound of the present owners.

March 2007 isn't considered new.

I'm sure this release will include features not available upon it's release like BONUS VIEW and BD-LIVE. I'm fine with the picture quality, my hope is a TRUEHD track at the original 24bit depth, which i'm sure will be a noticeable increase in audio/quality. I'm sure we'll see some additional special features, probably a preview of QUANTUM OF SOLACE along with special features from the original BD.

This is really an atrocious act by Sony. Why double dip on a reasonably new release and rub more salt into the wound of the present owners.
Glad I waited on this one :-)

i am canceling mine

I might buy this if it is the uncut version. otherwise, not a chance.

Not a shock. I'll pass.

I'm sure this release will include features not available upon it's release like BONUS VIEW and BD-LIVE. I'm fine with the picture quality, my hope is a TRUEHD track at the original 24bit depth, which i'm sure will be a noticeable increase in audio/quality. I'm sure we'll see some additional special features, probably a preview of QUANTUM OF SOLACE along with special features from the original BD.

24bit TrueHD is a good reason to double dip, but like others said if it's not uncut it's a no-buy.

Looks like it'll have more extras:The new cover artwork also advertises the fact that this release will include over seven hours of special features, putting it on par with the original Die Another Day DVD and improving greatly from the 90 minutes of extras that were on the first Casino Royale release.

In addition to ‘e-Movie Cash’ to catch Craig’s return as 007 in Quantum of Solace, the special features will include:

* The Road to Casino Royale
* Crew Commentary
* Second Commentary
* Deleted Scenes
* Paying Taxes
* Rescue & Recovery
* Old Boyfriend?
* James Bond in the Bahamas
* The Art of the Freerun
* Death in Venice
* Catching a Plane: From Storyboard to Screen
* Filmmaker Profiles
* Storyboard Sequence: Freerun Chase
* Ian Fleming: The Secret Road to Paradise
* Becoming Bond documentary
* James Bond: For Real Documentary
* Bond Girls are Forever (2006)
* Chris Cornell ‘You Know My Name’ Music Videohttp://commanderbond.net/article/5341

IIRC, only the last 4 were on the 2007 disc.

I'll double dip if there are deleted scenes of Eva out of the cleavage dress.

fixed:D

I doubt it's going to have any better PQ or AQ than the first version, so I don't care about it.

Exactly. Easy pass for me. The old days of DVD "double dipping" are over in my house.

March 2007 isn't considered new.

It is for me.

I guess I'll be one of the few double-dippers on this one. I absolutely love CR and will have no hesitation in picking this one up. I was craving a commentary and more bonus features when I bought the original so I'm glad they are delivering now.
Plus, the Quantum of Solace cash will come in handy when I go see it in the theaters in November.

It would take a new cut with significantly more footage to get me to double dip. Extras mean just about nothing to me, though.

nothing new, though, but par for the course on what the studios have been doing on DVD for at least the last 5-10 years. I stopped falling for it a loooong time ago, usually delaying until the second release.

Definitely waiting for Goldeneye and the other Brosnan Films.

This is Sony too. How many releases of Blackhawk Down were out on SD? I'm surprised they haven't double dipped on that yet.

Anyhow, Disc 1 will probably be identical with the one out now, so I personally see no need to double-dip. :)

Can't be if the commentaries are on the BD edition. Unless you're supposing we get the movie on each disc, which I doubt since people would just share them.

I don't get why they didn't release the "uncut!!!!!" edition here before. Surely they won't be so dumb this time. I mean, isn't it harder to edit and author for each region rather than just do one video and change audio/subs? And especially now, they'd have to edit the commentaries to fit both versions.

Anyway, loved this movie so I'll go for whichever region gets the uncut version as I only got US cut last time.

They kind of have to do this.
QoS is costing them $230 mil.:eek::eek:

WTF does Sony spend all that money on. Spidey 3 didn't look like it costs 1/4 Billion dollars. I guess Sandman will make an appearance in the new James Bond movie.

The stuff in the trailer doesn't look very fancy. It won't look as good as Transformers or be as good as TDK(also looks very nice on screen).

I the 2 disc set has Clive Owen playing Bond then I'm in for another. Otherwise I'm still angry about that.

I want to hear the commentaries, but not enough to double-dip. If anything, I might buy the DVD for really cheap at some point.

I agree...only way to get me to double dip would be a DTS HD MA 7.1 track.

Umm why? It has a PCM track, just as good if not better than a DTS-HD track.

You cant improve the audio beyond PCM.

Umm why? It has a PCM track, just as good if not better than a DTS-HD track.

You cant improve the audio beyond PCM.

Well, the existing track is 5.1, and he did say 7.1 - which could be more immersive.

This is really an atrocious act by Sony. Why double dip on a reasonably new release and rub more salt into the wound of the present owners.

What you need to do is stop buying "first time releases". As someone who has been buying DVD's since '97, I FINALLY learned my lesson a few years ago. I'm still shaking my head over people buying the first Terminator 2 Blu Ray. It took about 5 releases to get it right on DVD.

Or even better, make yourself a guideline for the perfect Blu Ray that won't need double dipping. For example:

-Does it have lossless audio
-Is the PQ the best it can be or close.
-Does it have the special features you want
-Is it the full version of the movie (does a director's cut or
unedited cut exist)

etc, etc.

M

What you need to do is stop buying "first time releases". As someone who has been buying DVD's since '97, I FINALLY learned my lesson a few years ago. I'm still shaking my head over people buying the first Terminator 2 Blu Ray. It took about 5 releases to get it right on DVD.

Or even better, make yourself a guideline for the perfect Blu Ray that won't need double dipping. For example:

-Does it have lossless audio
-Is the PQ the best it can be or close.
-Does it have the special features you want
-Is it the full version of the movie (does a director's cut or
unedited cut exist)

etc, etc.

M

Nailed it. I am left speechless. :)

What you need to do is stop buying "first time releases". As someone who has been buying DVD's since '97, I FINALLY learned my lesson a few years ago. I'm still shaking my head over people buying the first Terminator 2 Blu Ray. It took about 5 releases to get it right on DVD.

Or even better, make yourself a guideline for the perfect Blu Ray that won't need double dipping. For example:

-Does it have lossless audio
-Is the PQ the best it can be or close.
-Does it have the special features you want
-Is it the full version of the movie (does a director's cut or
unedited cut exist)

etc, etc.

M

Your right, I mean how many editions of 5th element they have released on dvd. I peronally am not going to bother with replacing Casino Royale it already sounds good at home.

How about a better lossy track instead of the 448kbps one they currently have?

How about a better lossy track instead of the 448kbps one they currently have?

Casino Royale is PCM uncompressed. I did not think its 448kbps.

Casino Royale is PCM uncompressed. I did not think its 448kbps.
I think he means that he wants a higher quality lossy track, irrespective of the lossless audio.

I'll be getting this, albeit the Aussie version. I got the first BD free anyways, and I've been looking for an excuse to get the full uncut version for ages (which the Aussie one should be).

Umm why? It has a PCM track, just as good if not better than a DTS-HD track.

You cant improve the audio beyond PCM.


I don't think so...my opinion. Plus I said 7.1, but thanks for playing along.

They kind of have to do this.
QoS is costing them $230 mil.:eek::eek: And where are you getting that number because it sounds completely impossible to me. The announced budget was around 140 million. No way has it gone that out of control.

This is really an atrocious act by Sony. Why double dip on a reasonably new release and rub more salt into the wound of the present owners.

Oh, come on this is done with VHS Tapes/LD's and DVDs, do you think there going to stop with Blu-Ray's.... This isn't a Sony issue at all, wait maybe the PS2 is fueling a war in Africa as well... WTF.. :eek: atrocious act my ass it is called capitalism... Blame Hollywood as a whole not Sony....

This is really an atrocious act by Sony. Why double dip on a reasonably new release and rub more salt into the wound of the present owners.

Nobody is forcing you or anyone to buy it. As a Casino Royale BD owner I do not find this to be rubbing salt in my wounds.

Well, the existing track is 5.1, and he did say 7.1 - which could be more immersive.

I am guessing it was an original 5.1 track so the extra 2 channels aren't going to be magical and will just be them taking the 2 surround and making it 4. It'll be basically the same thing as your receiver making the 2 surround into 4. I mean, I am sure there will be a slight difference but I doubt it will be much over the receiver doing it based on 7.1 tracks I have heard so far and how my receiver handles 5.1 into 7.1 output.

I don't think so...my opinion. Plus I said 7.1, but thanks for playing along.

So you think dts-ma is superior to PCM? Lossless is better than the other lossless? Wow...

I think he means that he wants a higher quality lossy track, irrespective of the lossless audio.

I'll be getting this, albeit the Aussie version. I got the first BD free anyways, and I've been looking for an excuse to get the full uncut version for ages (which the Aussie one should be).

The Euro releases besides UK should also be uncut and should be cheaper I think. Just that the (original) German version doesn't have English PCM.

And where are you getting that number because it sounds completely impossible to me. The announced budget was around 140 million. No way has it gone that out of control.
http://www.jamesbondwiki.com/page/Quantum+of+Solace+budget+sky-high?t=anon

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2008/JB22.php

$230 Million, that's without marketing costs. The movie is going to have Sandman, Godzilla, Jaws(the shark), King Kong and the guy from Freddy vs. Jason but not any of the aliens from Aliens. That or the world floods and Bond grows gills.

http://www.jamesbondwiki.com/page/Quantum+of+Solace+budget+sky-high?t=anon

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2008/JB22.php

$230 Million, that's without marketing costs. The movie is going to have Sandman, Godzilla, Jaws(the shark), King Kong and the guy from Freddy vs. Jason but not any of the aliens from Aliens. That or the world floods and Bond grows gills.

no Predator?

http://www.jamesbondwiki.com/page/Quantum+of+Solace+budget+sky-high?t=anon

$230 Million, that's without marketing costs.Not so fast. From the link:James Bond fans on the CBn Forums are speculating the immense figure may take into account marketing, merchandising and other incidental costs that are not typically included in a motion picture’s budgetary statistic. The budget of Casino Royale was said to be slightly north of $100 millionUnless the actors asked for unheard-of amounts and it had more special effects than SM3 and POTC3 combined, that $230m undoubtedly includes marketing.

highdefdigest.com says that the double dip will have a TrueHd track:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/James_Bond/Sony/Disc_Announcements/Sony_to_Double_Dip_Casino_Royale_Blu-ray_in_October/1950

I wonder if it'll be region free since it is now a "catalog" title.... interesting...

highdefdigest.com says that the double dip will have a TrueHd track:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/James_Bond/Sony/Disc_Announcements/Sony_to_Double_Dip_Casino_Royale_Blu-ray_in_October/1950

question remains if that TrueHD track will be 24bit.

question remains if that TrueHD track will be 24bit.


Also waiting to hear about this. This would be the only reason for me to upgrade if the video transfers are identical.

Lee

If Martin Campbell and Michael Wilson do another commentary like they did for GoldenEye, I'm sold.

AJG

it's likely to come with free movie ticket toward the sequel too. i highly doubt we'll get the uncut version. i've already imported mine from australia.

How do I get that version, and whats the audio specs? Thanks.

Oh, come on this is done with VHS Tapes/LD's and DVDs, do you think there going to stop with Blu-Ray's.... This isn't a Sony issue at all, wait maybe the PS2 is fueling a war in Africa as well... WTF.. :eek: atrocious act my ass it is called capitalism... Blame Hollywood as a whole not Sony....

Quit defending them. Sony is probably the worst of the studios for double-dipping, etc.

After all, they pioneered and pushed "superbit" as an example.

It gets really old.

I'd buy it for a better transfer and encoding of the uncut version and 24 bit audio... hopefully in truly re-mixed 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio.

Dan

Those websites with budget numbers are guessing. There is NO evidence at all that those figures are true.

Quit defending them. Sony is probably the worst of the studios for double-dipping, etc.

After all, they pioneered and pushed "superbit" as an example.

It gets really old.

Exactly there were so many different version out with some of those films.T2 and fifth Element were the ones I remember.

I'd buy it for a better transfer and encoding of the uncut version and 24 bit audio... hopefully in truly re-mixed 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio.

How about leaving the original soundtrack 5.1 and presented in 24-bit TrueHD, which Sony uses.

there are new upcoming stargate and total recall in uk, any idea

there are new upcoming stargate and total recall in uk, any idea

Well considering the censors didn't like one part of the interrogation scene in Casino Royale i doubt we in the UK will get a new version uncut. ( The UK version is different than the U.S. version though with more violence in some scenes but it does have that cut in one scene )

Anyone know how I can get the Aussie version in the U.S.?????

Anyone know how I can get the Aussie version in the U.S.?????

Yah buy from here.

http://www.movietyme.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=37368

Not cheap but what is these days. I have been reading at another place that the upcoming U.S. edition will not be uncut but is the exact same version already released in 2007 but with added extras....If true it's no sale for me and i might import the Australian version. ( I guess we'll have confirmation within the next month or so )

The only thing for me that stopped Casino Royale from being absolutely great was the Chris Cornell song....It nearly put me to sleep and to think they played it over the end titles too.....Terrible song....I hope Alicia Keyes and her duet partner can do better for Quantum Of Solace.....In fact Chris Cornells song is the worst Bond song i have ever heard and it takes something to beat that Octopussy song.....Even Madonna's Die Another Day has a beat to it and is at least lively if slightly out of place in a Bond movie ( in my opinion although it's grown on me )

The only thing for me that stopped Casino Royale from being absolutely great was the Chris Cornell song....It nearly put me to sleep and to think they played it over the end titles too.....Terrible song....I hope Alicia Keyes and her duet partner can do better for Quantum Of Solace.....In fact Chris Cornells song is the worst Bond song i have ever heard and it takes something to beat that Octopussy song.....Even Madonna's Die Another Day has a beat to it and is at least lively if slightly out of place in a Bond movie ( in my opinion although it's grown on me )

Well, the song over the credits doesn't prevent me from thinking if a film is great or not. I didn't mind the Cornell song (opinions vary of course)...it's not something I'd listen to again apart from when I view the film, but it certainly didn't keep me from ranking this as one of the best Bond films ever.

The Man With The Golden Gun...now THERE'S a bad Bond song!

I don't mind the different music for each Bond film.

Well, the song over the credits doesn't prevent me from thinking if a film is great or not. I didn't mind the Cornell song (opinions vary of course)...it's not something I'd listen to again apart from when I view the film, but it certainly didn't keep me from ranking this as one of the best Bond films ever.

The Man With The Golden Gun...now THERE'S a bad Bond song!

The film is one of the better Bond movies made....The songs and credits are a big part of the Bond movies though and i'm thinking about the whole package now ( because i always watch the end credits and love a good music score )

I just dislike Chris Cornell...It didn't work for me as a Bond theme but perhaps it worked for you or others....Even if it wasn't a Bond theme i'd rate it lowly....I also think they got lazy just playing the same song over the end credits again...At least with Tomorrow Never Dies we got Sheryl Crowe at the beginning and KD Lang during the end credits and i absolutely love both of those songs.

The Man With The Golden Gun fitted in the seventies though when it was made and Lulu has a good voice and did the vocals well...Personally though it's not one of my favorite Bond movies anyways.....Maybe we need a thread in the DVD discussion forum about best and worst Bond songs ( I guess there is probably already an old thread lurking somewhere )

Yah buy from here.

http://www.movietyme.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=37368

Not cheap but what is these days. I have been reading at another place that the upcoming U.S. edition will not be uncut but is the exact same version already released in 2007 but with added extras....If true it's no sale for me and i might import the Australian version. ( I guess we'll have confirmation within the next month or so

Thanks! I thought it was confirmed to not be uncut? If not, Ill wait.

I agree...only way to get me to double dip would be a DTS HD MA 7.1 track.

That or if its an extended version with never before seen footage.

I will never double dip HD over HD, this is just nut IMO.

The original release has pretty flawless PQ and AQ and I paid $26 for it. I don't think I can double dip for extras.

I think this will be my second HD double dip (after Troy). TrueHD plus a PiP commentary track, and more--I'm a sucker for this stuff. Can't wait to get an overdose of Bond on Blu-ray leading up to QoS in theaters.

Does anyone know if these bonus items willl be in HD (not SD)?, If not in HD, I will not buy


"Documentaries:
- Ian Fleming’s Incredible Creation – A remarkable look at the birth and continued success of James Bond, including never-before-revealed information about Bond’s creator and the origins of 007.
- The Road to Casino Royale – The story of why it took over 50 years for the Bond filmmakers to bring Ian Fleming’s first 007 novel to the big screen, featuring the amazing behind-the-scenes stories of the many attempts to make the film.
- James Bond in the Bahamas – A fascinating examination of the links between the the cinematic Bond and the Bahamas, with never-before-told behind-the-scenes stories from Casino Royale, Goldfinger, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, For Your Eyes Only and The World Is Not Enough.
- Ian Fleming: The Secret Road to Paradise – A revealing exploration of the world of James Bond’s creator. In this documentary, discover why Ian Fleming was drawn to the Bahamas, and learn the cinematic Casino Royale’s unique link to an important chapter in 007’s secret history.
- Death in Venice – A break down of one of the key scenes in the film.


Featurettes:
- The Art of Freerunning – An in-depth look at the freerunning chase and the freerunning technique with the sport’s founder, Sebastien Foucan.

Filmmaker Profiles: in-depth conversations with key creative forces behind Casino Royale, including never-before-seen behind-the-scenes footage:
- Martin Campbell, Director
- Chris Corbould, Special Effects
- Phil Meheux, Director of Photography
- Gary Powell, Stunt Coordinator
- Alexander Witt, Second Unit Director
- David Arnold, Composer
Deleted/Extended Scenes:
- "Rescue & Recovery”
- "Squandering Government Funds"
- "Cricket Pavilion"
- "Gettler Raises Bond’s Suspicions"
Storyboard Sequence:
- Freerunning Chase — Watch the storyboards presented in animatic form, or view them in comparison to the finished film sequence."

What's different in the uncut version? I love the movie the way it is, but wouldn't mind checking out the uncut version.

What's different in the uncut version? I love the movie the way it is, but wouldn't mind checking out the uncut version.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/29150/casino-royale-uncut-international-version/

The International Cut Blu-ray Disc:
Sony Pictures Home Entertainment distributes Casino Royale on the DVD and Blu-ray formats worldwide in a few slightly alternate editions depending on the ratings and censorship requirements of each territory. In the United States, some of the fight scenes were trimmed to secure a PG-13 rating. In the UK, the fights are longer but the scene of Le Chiffre torturing Bond was censored by the BBFC. The longest, most complete cut of the film was released on Blu-ray in Australia.

Comparing the Australian and American discs, the changes amount to a total of 22 seconds of material across two scenes. In Chapter 1, Bond's bathroom brawl features more graphic strangulation and drowning in the international version, for an addition of 3 seconds. In Chapter 10, the stairwell fight has several minor alterations including Bond smashing the assailant's head through a window, a couple of extra body blows, and one shot of a dead body. The editing in this scene has also been tightened in the American cut, so other tiny changes are mostly invisible without frame-by-frame analysis. The length of the scene has been extended by 19 seconds on the Australian disc, but it really doesn't feel that much different.

In direct comparison, the international cut is preferable, but overall I didn't feel that the trims in the American cut were significant. Most viewers would probably not notice them at all. Given the choice, I would personally prefer the import, but owners of the American Blu-ray disc may not necessarily feel the need to replace their copies.

The Australian release is coded for Region A playback and will function in an American Blu-ray player. It comes packaged in a keepcase the same height and width as American Blu-rays, but with a spine thickness more like a standard DVD. The disc automatically opens with a lengthy Blu-ray promo that can fortunately be skipped but is a nuisance.

What's different in the uncut version? I love the movie the way it is, but wouldn't mind checking out the uncut version.

From this site....http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=10779



About the censorship:
*US and also at least the Korean (probably also Hong Kong/Thailand) -releases are confirmed including the "PG-13" version (144:12 min).
*UK -release is cut (differently) by the BBFC (144:20 min).
*At least the Scandinavian and Australian -releases includes the "R-rated" version (144:34 min). Also German, but it´s missing English PCM-track.


CUTS:

Bluray A America- Sony Pictures Home Entertainment - Pre-cut (MPAA) "PG-13 Theatrical" release (144:12 min). Cut-list as follows (all info by Michael Mackenzie/Whiggles):
- After an overhead shot of Bond and the contact smashing down a wall, the first and last few frames of a shot of Bond elbowing the contact in the chest are removed.
- Directly after, a shot Bond smashing the door into the contact's face is completely removed.
- After Bond gets to his feet, he kicks the contact in the face. This is missing from the US version.
- Directly after, we see Bond grabbing the contact, who in turn grabs a garbage can, which he hurls at Bond. In the US version, we only get the last few frames of this.
- When Bond hauls the contact to his feet and manouevres him towards another sink, the start of a low angle shot showing the contact's face as he struggles is cut.
- The drowning of the contact is dramatically shortened. First, a close-up of the contact as he is held under is replaced with a shot of the contact's legs kicking.
- Directly after, a close-up of Bond's intense face is removed.
- Following this, we cut back to the contact as his struggles weaken. This is missing in the US version.
- The high shot showing Obanno's bodyguard hitting the ground below after being thrown over the banister is removed. This shot is placed between Bond and Obanno fighting.
- A close-up of Obanno as Bond smashes his head into a window, shattering it, is missing from US version.
- Directly after, a wider shot of Obanno recovering and attacking again is cut due to the previous trim.
- The first few frames of Obanno being thrown into a wall are missing in the US version.
- Obanno grabbing Vesper's leg as she tries to run away is completely removed.
- The following shot of Vesper falling but stopping herself in time is cut due to the previous shot's removal.
- After we see Vesper try to open the emergency exit, a wide shot of Bond shoving Obanno back is missing from the US version.
- Directly following, a wide shot of BG2 falling back is also missing.
- Afterwards, Obanno reacting as Bond kicks him is too cut.
- Obanno rams Bond against the wall, but not in the US version.
- When Bond and Obanno struggle on the floor, Bond chokes BG2. The second angle of Obanno's feet kicking is removed.
- After we see Obanno's face, we see him reaching for the gun on the ground. Missing from the US version.
- A wider shot of them struggling is cut directly after.
- The next shot, Obanno reaching for the gun again, is cut. In the US version, we only see Obanno reaching for the gun just before Vesper intervenes.
- A shot of frightened Vesper breaks a shot of Obanno's legs starting to stop kicking. In the uncut version, the legs starting to slow is in one continuous shot, followed by the frightened Vesper shot.
Bluray ALL Australia- Sony Pictures Home Entertainment - No cuts (144:34 min). "R-rated" version.
Bluray ALL Germany- Sony Pictures Home Entertainment - No cuts (144:34 min). "R-rated" version.
Bluray ALL Japan- Sony Pictures Home Entertainment - No cuts (144:34 min). "R-rated" version.
Bluray ALL Russia- Videoservice - Yes (144:20 min) - Pre-Cut UK version
Bluray ALL Scandinavia- Sony Pictures Home Entertainment - No cuts (144:34 min). "R-rated" version.
Bluray ALL Spain- Sony Pictures Home Entertainment - TBC.
Bluray ALL United Kingdom- Sony Pictures Home Entertainment - Yes (144:20 min) - Pre-Cut UK version - "The BBFC advised the company that the torture scene placed too much emphasis on both the infliction of pain and the sadism of the villain for the requested '12' category. When the completed version of the film was submitted for classification, reductions to the torture sequence had been made, including the removal of lingering shots of the rope, close shots of Bond's facial reaction and the substitution of a more distant shot of the beating compared to the original version."
More info (Chris McEneany/AVplay): "The torture sequence is now shorn of Le Chiffre’s taunting line about Bond’s rock-chiselled physique. Whereas the "R-rated" versions show Mikkelsen drape the knotted rope over Bond’s shoulder and utter the words “Such a waste” after commenting on how well he has looked after himself ("You've taken good care of your body" line), the UK version omits this."

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Very tiny photo of the Casino Royale Blu ray 2 diisc collectors edition: Extremely vague whether most of the features are in HD. My intuiation tells me the only HD features are "becoming Bond: Daniel Craig" and "James Bond for real" I know for sure the AMC special on Bond Girls was 480P (SD). Looks like the others are in SD (They would have marked on the box for sure to produce sales)

Also extremely disappointed that they kept the French main feature picture Audio and took out the Spanish Version from the original Blu Ray.

Very on the fence whether I double dip.

How bout the front cover too? :)

Sony's doing the right thing and lifting the region lock since it's a catalog now.

http://www.dvdtown.com/moviedatabase/coverart/casino-royale/24516/1

Front Cover of 2 disc CE Edition

At least with Tomorrow Never Dies we got Sheryl Crowe at the beginning and KD Lang during the end credits and i absolutely love both of those songs.

As you probably know, k.d. Lang's song "Surrender" was originally planned to be the movie's opening theme. The producers decided at the last minute to switch to Sheryl Crow.

Here's a YouTube video where someone matched up the movie's opening credits with Lang's song. You can see it syncs up perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_h0p_3ViHI

I'm not a big fan of the Sheryl Crow song, but it's grown on me over time. Still, "Surrender" would have been a better way to open the movie.

Chris Cornell still wins for best modern opening song.

I'm with Foxy on this one. That Chris Cornell song sucks hard. And the movie's cheesy Flash-animated opening credits don't make it go down any easier.

Thanks for those quotes, lgans and Foxy. :)

My 2 cents on the opening song, I think Chris Cornell has one of the worst voices I've ever heard and I don't see his appeal at all. But, hey, I can't sing either so maybe I'm just jealous. :D

http://www.dvdtown.com/moviedatabase/coverart/casino-royale/24516/1

Front Cover of 2 disc CE Edition

Hmm image-tagging an HTML link? :p Thanks though, I imageshacked it.

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3590/casinoroyalecezg3.jpg

Is it safe to say that its not going to be the uncut version?

I like the KD Land song better too. Chris Cornell still wins for best modern opening song. Greatest Bond song ever IMO is without a doubt - Live and Let Die.:) In MA OMG.:D

The Jack White song should be pretty awesome for QoS. I just don't know about Alicia Keys singing with him(she's great, but with a song written by white?:confused:) It would be cool if they used Winehouse for the ending credits.

Someone posted that cover art when the movie came out. Good work Sony...but you're a little late. Custom makers get it right the first time.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10030831#post10030831
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5161/casinoroyaleblu1pa6.jpg

I may have to double dip just for the classy box.

Any word on a remaster? According to the DNR/EE thread, the original has mild DNR.

Quantum of Solace running time is now official: 104 minutes (1 hr, 44 mn).
Casino Royale longest Bond running time at 144 minutes (2hr,24 mn), now Quantum of Solace goes in the other end of the spectrum as the shortest Bond movie ever.

i may have to double dip just for the classy box.

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LOL, yeah....I don't think I'd ever double dip just for cover art. There'd have to be a substantial reason for me to get this....and right now, there doesn't appear to be one.

If there is no improvement with PQ or AQ, I will not double dip. Although I do want to watch the new extras so I may rent it from BB instead.

If there is no improvement with PQ or AQ, I will not double dip. Although I do want to watch the new extras so I may rent it from BB instead.

It appears to be the same features from the 2 disc dvd that was previously released. It might be a cheaper alternative than double dipping the BD

March 2007 isn't considered new.

True, but considering that Sony still has an MSRP of 38.95 on it, it's not considered a catalog title which means it's still considered "new" to them.

I've noticed that a lot of companies are taking a long time to switch a blu-ray title from "new" to catalog. Look at Superman Returns.. it's still not a catalog title yet.

As far as Casino Royale, besides some extras, I dont see any reason to double dip as far as PQ/AQ.

Casino Royale is already one of the best looking and sounding Blu-ray releases on BD-50 with AVC and LPCM 5.1 soundtrack. I don't think it can look any better than it already does.

This is just a double-dip to cash in on the upcoming release of Quantum of Solace.

Meh. I'll just stick with the free copy of Casino Royale I got with my S350.

According to this, all of the bonuses should be in HD (music video excepted).

CASINO ROYALE (2006) Blu-ray

Release date : 23-10-2008

Blu-ray Information
Available audio: English (TrueHD), French (TrueHD)
Available subtitles: Dutch, French, English
Picture format: High Definition 16:9
Menu languages : French, English

Blu-ray Features
• AUDIO- EN VIDEO COMMENTARY BY DIRECTOR MARTIN CAMPBELL EN PRODUCER MICHAEL G. WILSON
• AUDIO COMMENTARY BY THE CREW
• BD LIVE GAME: “KNOW YOUR DOUBLE-O: THE ULTIMATE JAMES BOND TRIVIA QUIZ**”
• DELETED SCENES*
• DOCUMENTARIES*
• FROM STORYBOARD TO SCREEN*
• FILMMAKER PROFILES*
• CHRIS CORNELL MUSIC VIDEO: “YOU KNOW MY NAME”
• TRAILERS*

* In high definition

Genre : Action Adventure
Movie length : 138 [Note : just disregard that information, they just copied/pasted the info from the PAL DVD but it will most likely be the uncut 144 min. version]
Number of Discs : 2

Source : http://www.dvd-home.nl/

Movie length : 138 [Note : just disregard that information, they just copied/pasted the info from the PAL DVD but it will without a doubt be the uncut 144 min. version

???????????

It happens all the time with BD movie lengths in PAL territories, they just take the info from the DVD, forgetting that it is 4% shorter than blu-ray due to PAL speed-up. If you take a look at the source article ( http://www.dvd-home.nl/pers/sonypictures.htm#31 ) you'll see that they give the same length for the DVD and the BD, which is impossible.

Casino Royale is already one of the best looking and sounding Blu-ray releases on BD-50 with AVC and LPCM 5.1 soundtrack. I don't think it can look any better than it already does.

This is just a double-dip to cash in on the upcoming release of Quantum of Solace.

It can. Notice in the EE/DNR thread a Sony insider confirmed Casino Royale had mild DNR. Hopefully this release won't, but I won't hold my breathe... I certainly wouldn't call it the best BD I've seen either. It's nice, but not the best.

It happens all the time with BD movie lengths in PAL territories, they just take the info from the DVD, forgetting that it is 4% shorter than blu-ray due to PAL speed-up. If you take a look at the source article ( http://www.dvd-home.nl/pers/sonypictures.htm#31 ) you'll see that they give the same length for the DVD and the BD, which is impossible.

I was referring to that sight calling it the uncut version.

The 2007 Dutch blu-ray is the uncut version of the movie (144:34), so I made the assumption that the new 2008 2-disc edition would be too. But it is not confirmed at this point, and I guess I should have made that clear.

http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/6873942/James-Bond-Casino-Royale-Blu-Ray-Starter-Pack/Product.html

Anyone ?

The 2007 Dutch blu-ray is the uncut version of the movie (144:34), so I made the assumption that the new 2008 2-disc edition would be too. But it is not confirmed at this point, and I guess I should have made that clear.
That is essentially the only reason I'd buy it. I wasn't even aware of a CR DC until recently :(

you guys wanting a better transfer, how exactly could the original release be bettered?

it is still one of the best I have seen on Blu...

you guys wanting a better transfer, how exactly could the original release be bettered?

it is still one of the best I have seen on Blu...

No DNR

are you serious? it has DNR on it?

I never noticed any at all...

are you serious? it has DNR on it?

I never noticed any at all...
No Geek badge for you, sir! ;)

Well, Daniel Craig was one of the oldest looking 38 year olds ever filmed :D so they had to DNR closeups of him.

Can anyone really confirm if these new features are in HD (1080P) in this new blu-ray?


Blu-Ray Special Features

Documentaries

Ian Fleming’s Incredible Creation – A remarkable look at the birth and continued success of James Bond, including never-before-revealed information about Bond’s creator and the origins of 007.
The Road to Casino Royale – The story of why it took over 50 years for the Bond filmmakers to bring Ian Fleming’s first 007 novel to the big screen, featuring the amazing behind-the-scenes stories of the many attempts to make the film.
James Bond in the Bahamas – A fascinating examination of the links between the the cinematic Bond and the Bahamas, with never-before-told behind-the-scenes stories from Casino Royale, Goldfinger, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, For Your Eyes Only and The World Is Not Enough.
Ian Fleming: The Secret Road to Paradise – A revealing exploration of the world of James Bond’s creator. In this documentary, discover why Ian Fleming was drawn to the Bahamas, and learn the cinematic Casino Royale’s unique link to an important chapter in 007’s secret history.
Death in Venice – A break down of one of the key scenes in the film.

In-depth conversations with key creative forces behind Casino Royale, including never-before-seen behind-the-scenes footage:
Martin Campbell, Director
Chris Corbould, Special Effects
Phil Meheux, Director of Photography
Gary Powell, Stunt Coordinator
Alexander Witt, Second Unit Director
David Arnold, Composer
Extras
Music Video: Chris Cornell “You Know My Name”
Crew Commentary: Audio Commentary with scene-specific comments and observations from many of Casino Royale’s creative team.
Storyboard Sequence: Freerunning Chase — Watch the storyboards presented in animatic form, or view them in comparison to the finished film sequence.
The Art of Freerunning – An in-depth look at the freerunning chase and the freerunning technique with the sport’s founder, Sebastien Foucan.
Scene Deconstruction - Catching a Plane: From Storyboard to Screen, featuring outtakes and never-before-seen footage.
Deleted/Extended Scenes
"Rescue & Recovery”
"Squandering Government Funds"
"Cricket Pavilion"
"Gettler Raises Bond’s Suspicions"

The DVNR is minor compared to PANS, GOLDEN COMPASS, PATTON and a host of other films (SICTH SENSE, DARK CITY). I did not even notive when I first viewed the BD. It was later that I spotted it from time to time. Again, nothing severe. Remove it and you'd have perfection.

I saw some DNR on Vesper's cleavage.

It was very light DNR, so you would only notice it if you were staring really hard... ;)

oh, you had me worried for a second there, only minimal DNR?

the DNR in Pan's Labyrinth + Face/Off + Dark City + Sixth Sense only ruined about 0.01% of the viewing experience anyway... lol seriously, those 4 Blu's look brilliant to me...

I just think all this talk of DNR is a bit overrated, but then again my screen is only 50" so that could be the reason why...

so there is nothing about the original release I own that warrants any double dipping then - I have the Australian uncut version after all :p

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=10079660&postcount=2877
The master is inconsistent with grain as well. In the theater you are seeing the DI overlayed with grain from the film out/print process, so it is harder to see the original negative grain fluctuate from scene to scene because you are looking at it through more film processing.

The whole title had a light film grain reduction pass with special attention paid to a couple of scenes that were particularly grainy.

This title was a rare case in that we were able to screen the final result for Martin Campbell with the master available as a reference, he was extremely pleased with the results.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=10079660&postcount=2877
The master is inconsistent with grain as well. In the theater you are seeing the DI overlayed with grain from the film out/print process, so it is harder to see the original negative grain fluctuate from scene to scene because you are looking at it through more film processing.

The whole title had a light film grain reduction pass with special attention paid to a couple of scenes that were particularly grainy.

This title was a rare case in that we were able to screen the final result for Martin Campbell with the master available as a reference, he was extremely pleased with the results.

Fortunately, the fine folks of AVS know even better than the director of the actual film.

Fortunately, the fine folks of AVS know even better than the director of the actual film.

:rolleyes:

The quote says he was pleased with the results, it doesn't say that he thought it was perfection. And Casino Royale is still one of the better looking discs out there.

:rolleyes:

The quote says he was pleased with the results, it doesn't say that he thought it was perfection. And Casino Royale is still one of the better looking discs out there.

I agree and it's amongst the very few BDs that has good replay value.

I just think all this talk of DNR is a bit overrated, but then again my screen is only 50" so that could be the reason why...


Honestly when you go bigger you might see a difference. I had a 55" Mits. Now I have a FP with a 92" screen. Many here at AVS have bigger screens. You DO clearly see this stuff (DNR, EE) at that size.

To paraphrase a line from another thread. The film is already made. Just reproduce it, don't f*ck with it. Especially some low level video technician who had NOTHING to do with the making of the film, (like the mook who worked on Patton who said he "hated film grain and couldn't wait until the day when we wouldn't see it again") who might think, "Hmmm... that looks a bit nosiy, let's twirl this here dial... AH!!!!!"

:rolleyes:

The quote says he was pleased with the results, it doesn't say that he thought it was perfection. And Casino Royale is still one of the better looking discs out there.

:rolleyes: to you to. Who said it was perfect? The quote and the director think it's consistent with the master and the theatrical showings, so why would anyone want anything else from the video quality?

We should want a replication, good or bad, of what we saw in the theaters. And it appears we already have it. So, I'm not sure I understand the complaints.

oh, you had me worried for a second there, only minimal DNR?

the DNR in Pan's Labyrinth + Face/Off + Dark City + Sixth Sense only ruined about 0.01% of the viewing experience anyway... lol seriously, those 4 Blu's look brilliant to me...

Dark City is nothing but DNR so that's a little strange. Seriously, it's moving colored wax in the form of a movie. :D

:rolleyes: to you to. Who said it was perfect? The quote and the director think it's consistent with the master and the theatrical showings, so why would anyone want anything else from the video quality?

We should want a replication, good or bad, of what we saw in the theaters. And it appears we already have it. So, I'm not sure I understand the complaints.
The director said what Sony PR wanted him to ? SHOCK !!!

The director said what Sony PR wanted him to ? SHOCK !!!

So, let me get this straight. You think Sony PR got Martin Campbell to oversee the transfer, just so an AVS insider (paidgeek) could make a post that Campbell liked it. Because, that's the extent of the PR, as you say it. Because, you realize it wasn't Sony at all, but an AVS insider who said that Campbell liked it, right?

I think that line of reasoning is beyond insane (and not to mention paranoid), to say the least.

He said it elsewhere also, I remember seeing interviews with him before release.
There is a world outside AVS, also calling someone insane and paranoid when you posted, and I quote :

Fortunately, the fine folks of AVS know even better than the director of the actual film.

So, are you a "I'm not buying it no matter how good it actually might sound, the word lossless on the back of the box means that much to me."

I'd actually lay some blame on Scorsese himself.

Whether he was asked to be involved or not, I'd expect a director to put a little effort in to make sure his films have an accurate translation

A joke as I made, or real paranoid feelings ............. I guess you would know

Look thro your post list and see how many soapbox views you take, and look at how many people you put down.

And look at what you said previously
to you to. Who said it was perfect? The quote and the director think it's consistent with the master and the theatrical showings, so why would anyone want anything else from the video quality?

We should want a replication, good or bad, of what we saw in the theaters. And it appears we already have it. So, I'm not sure I understand the complaints.
So paidgeek says that they changed it, yet you say that it is what we saw.
How can it be if they changed it ?
Respect other peoples views and learn to lighten up

He said it elsewhere also, I remember seeing interviews with him before release.
There is a world outside AVS, also calling someone insane and paranoid when you posted, and I quote :







A joke as I made, or real paranoid feelings ............. I guess you would know

Look thro your post list and see how many soapbox views you take, and look at how many people you put down.

And look at what you said previously

So paidgeek says that they changed it, yet you say that it is what we saw.
How can it be if they changed it ?
Respect other peoples views and learn to lighten up
Well, you seem quite stirred up, going through my posts and such. So, I'm not sure I'm the only one that needs to lighten up.

Personally, I find venting some or releasing a little anger on a message board is more productive than in real life, so sue me. But the AVS comment was mean mostly in jest as well. But, like your post, it's kind of hard to tell what people intend as jokes isn't it? And to further clarify, I said that line of reasoning is insane, not you. Don't put words in my mouth.

Furthermore, where did paidgeek say it was changed? I only saw that Campbell thought it was an accurate transfer. Accurate doesn't mean 100% perfect. But, it seems we got a transfer that is accurate, so I'm happy with that. And I would hope other would be as well. Satisfied?

ok then, but I do not own what I saw in the cinema and want better :)

http://www.vimeo.com/1960989

Link: In case you are interested in seeing the 4 extended scenes from Casino Royale. Good but I'm glad they were cut from the final version.

Still no word if the extra documentaries are in true HD (1080P)

http://www.vimeo.com/1960989

Link: In case you are interested in seeing the 4 extended scenes from Casino Royale. Good but I'm glad they were cut from the final version.

Still no word if the extra documentaries are in true HD (1080P)

Where?

Where?

http://www.vimeo.com/marketto007/videos/sort:date

try this link

http://www.vimeo.com/marketto007/videos/sort:date

try this link

Thanks... those scenes are in the Australian BD? The other thread mentioned something more during the stairway scene and drowning the guy in the bathroom. Can anyone confirm?

Are those extended scenes included in this new BD?

One of my local stores broke streetdate on the UK set. The case is very close to the Close Encounters set, not too shabby at all.

Saw it today on the shelf at Borders Tysons Corner.

edit: says "Collector's Edition" (CE) and has a sticker for Quantum of Solace movie cash.

Still no word if the extra documentaries are in true HD (1080P)

Anybody have an answer to this question yet? I'm on the fence about whether or not to cancel my Amazon preorder. Knowing that the special features are in high def would encourage me to keep it.

Anybody have an answer to this question yet? I'm on the fence about whether or not to cancel my Amazon preorder. Knowing that the special features are in high def would encourage me to keep it.

The HDD review is up and it seems quite a few of the special features are in HD.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1693/casinoroyale_ce.html

After flipping between the two Blu-rays about ten times, I would give a very slight thumbs up to the PCM in terms of low bass.
Finally a movie shows up that proves I wasn't crazy about deep LFE sounding different between Dolby TrueHD and PCM, I heard the same thing with Superman Returns. High Def Disc News reported the same thing. It's not night and day, but it is noticeable. Huzzah for me.:confused:
If nothing else, the two Blu-ray versions of 'Casino Royale' will provide nothing but more fodder for the ongoing PCM vs. TrueHD debate.
To prove him wrong, I would like to clarify that my post was to confirm my mind wasn't playing tricks on me. As you can see from my sig all is good in the land of lossless audio.

I think they are charging way too much for this title considering it's a double dip. That's all I have to say...

If use the QoS movie cash its not that bad.

How does the QoS "e-money" thing work? Get an internet ticket? Voucher for the theater? Is there a list of theaters that support it?

Finally a movie shows up that proves I wasn't crazy about deep LFE sounding different between Dolby TrueHD and PCM, I heard the same thing with Superman Returns. High Def Disc News reported the same thing. It's not night and day, but it is noticeable. Huzzah for me.:confused:

To prove him wrong, I would like to clarify that my post was to confirm my mind wasn't playing tricks on me. As you can see from my sig all is good in the land of lossless audio.

Read the whole review and you will see they state that they changed their mind and after level matching they consider the Dolby True HD and PCM tracks to be equal with regards to bass and indeed everything.

I just ordered the Australian version of the original release from last year online....I was holding out to see if the uncut version was released this time about but since it's still the PG-13 cut i decided to go for the Aussie version instead since it seems the transfers are the same....I don't need the extra's.

I just ordered the Aussie version myself, except it was the 2 disc set. That's right, I folded like a house of cards, sold my Dutch uncut copy,(which paid for this release), and joined the double-dip wagon... The shame.

I just ordered the Aussie version myself, except it was the 2 disc set. That's right, I folded like a house of cards, sold my Dutch uncut copy,(which paid for this release), and joined the double-dip wagon... The shame.

Is the new aussie version also uncut like the original release ? If so i'd have bought that instead of the one disc i did order.

I don't see any reason why they'd cut it for this release, still has the same (M) For Mature rating.

I don't see any reason why they'd cut it for this release, still has the same (M) For Mature rating.

I was thinking the distributors might release an official worldwide 2 disc release....Reason i was thinking that is it's strange the director Martin Campbell hasn't done a commentary for this new release. Thats why i wonder if this new release might now be different to the original Australian release.

Granted theres no commentary for the original release either but Campbell does usually do commentaries.

I think you're obsessed, mate! LOL!! ;)
I have faith in the Aussies... Their release date is different enough for me not to worry.

Finally a movie shows up that proves I wasn't crazy about deep LFE sounding different between Dolby TrueHD and PCM, I heard the same thing with Superman Returns. High Def Disc News reported the same thing. It's not night and day, but it is noticeable. Huzzah for me.:confused:

To prove him wrong, I would like to clarify that my post was to confirm my mind wasn't playing tricks on me. As you can see from my sig all is good in the land of lossless audio.

HDDigest just gave the PCM track a slight edge. LFE is better in certain scenes. overall, the low end bass is just better. something most of us already knew. dts ma and pcm just have that knack for sounding better.

HDDigest just gave the PCM track a slight edge. LFE is better in certain scenes. overall, the low end bass is just better. something most of us already knew. dts ma and pcm just have that knack for sounding better.

Completely untrue, especially since it isn't apples & oranges.

LFE & bass management differs between formats. The TrueHD is 24-bit where the PCM is downsampled to 16-bit.

From what Ralph reported for bitrates it would seem the TrueHD track is also 16bit. 90% of Sony's TrueHD tracks are 16bit unfortunately.

sold my original us bd long ago in anticipation of the uncut version

is it confirmed the aussie version of the collector's edition is uncut?

from blu ray.com
But the big question is exactly how the new version differs from the earlier one? Oddly, I found the TrueHD version to be better than the previous release's PCM track. This made me eat my own words that I expressed previously--that all things being equal, PCM is preferable to TrueHD. But were all things equal? It was not the definition or resolution that I found preferable in the new version, but the mix or prominence of certain elements within the soundstage. I'm not saying Sony used a new mix for the TrueHD version, but at times it sure sounded that way.
Ok Ralph said it sounded identical. I'm sticking with that;) and replacing my old copy.

Now where can I get a stellbook of the CE. Man it is going to be pain if the rest come out in the US with normal cases.

so hidefdigest says pcm is better, and blu-ray.com says truehd is better. safe to say they're identical then?

Someone just posted a review link to me where he said that this collector's edition is better in PQ. They are the same encode right?

Hard to trust online reviews for obvious reasons.

so hidefdigest says pcm is better, and blu-ray.com says truehd is better. safe to say they're identical then?
And Ralph says they're identical. I was on the fence about getting this, but now I have to out of curiosity.:) I can tell all the codecs apart just by the lows,mids and highs.;)
Someone just posted a review link to me where he said that this collector's edition is better in PQ. They are the same encode right?

Sony is probably better at authoring now. But I don't think they would go back and make a new AVC encode. If it was just from better authoring tools I doubt they look different.

Come on tell us were the review is.

If anybody interested. Here is full specs for new Scandinavian 2-Disc Deluxe Edition release for Casino Royale.

As previous release, this is also uncut version. Running time is 144:34 min.

It is very likely that this same version is released in Australia also.
CASINO ROYALE - Deluxe Edition

English Dolby TrueHD 5.1
Czech Dolby Digital 5.1
Hungarian Dolby Digital 5.1
Polish Dolby Digital 5.1
Turkish Dolby Digital 5.1

Arabic, Croatian, Czech, Danish, English, English HoH, Finnish, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Icelandic, Norwegian, Polish, Romanian, Serbian, Slovakian, Slovenian, Swedish and Turkish subtitles on main feature.

DISC ONE
Picture in Picture commentary with director Martin Campbell producer Michael G. Wilson
Audio Commentary with the crew hosted by Barbara Broccoli
Ultimate James Bond Trivia Quiz
4 Bonus Trailers
BD Live

DISC TWO
4 Deleted Scenes (total 07:48 min) (HD)
"The Road To Casino Royale" featurette (26:34 min) (HD)
"Ian Fleming's Incredible Creation" featurette (21:14 min) (HD)
"James Bond In The Bahamas" featurette (24:16 min) (HD)
"Ian Flemings: The Secret Road To Paradise" featurette (24:28 min) (HD)
"Death In Venice" featurette (23:19 min) (HD)
"Becoming Bond" featurette (27:24 min) (HD)
"James Bond: For Real" featurette (24:33 min) (HD)
"Bond Girls Are Forever (2006)" featurette (49:00 min)
"The Art Of Freerun" featurette (13:38 min) (HD)
"Catching A Plane: From Storyboard To Screen" featurette (13:47 min) (HD)
Storyboard Sequence: Freerun Chase
- Storyboard Only (10:57 min) (HD)
- Storyboard To Film Comparison (10:14 min) (HD)
6 Filmmaker Profiles - Crew Interviews (total 53:03 min) (HD)
"You Know My Name" Music Video by Chris Cornell (04:08 min)
BD Live

If anybody interested. Here is full specs for new Scandinavian 2-Disc Deluxe Edition release for Casino Royale.

As previous release, this is also uncut version. Running time is 144:34 min.

It is very likely that this same version is released in Australia also.

When does this Scandinavian edition street? The AU one is not set to be released until 11/5.

When does this Scandinavian edition street? The AU one is not set to be released until 11/5.
It was released 22-Oct-08.

Someone just posted a review link to me where he said that this collector's edition is better in PQ. They are the same encode right?

Hard to trust online reviews for obvious reasons.

The reviewer was using a 32inch television set.....I think it might be hard to tell any noticeable differences at the usual seating position on such a small set....I'm not being a snob about this but i think reviewers need to have larger sets since their opinions can sometimes influence the sale or non sale of a movie. Mistakes are harder to make in reviews when your set is larger or you are using a projection system and of course everything is calibrated.

But the question still stands, being the previous disc reference or not, is this a new encode?

I believe it is, but this can only be confirmed by the scan of both discs and hopefully some caps.

Can we get confirmation if the US disc has the uncut internation version?

Can we get confirmation if the US disc has the uncut internation version?

NO for the current US disc. The cut is the same as the US version released in US theathers in NOV 06 and the DVD and Blu Ray's of March 2007.

The Australian version is the longer one. 2 longer scenes that total approx. 22 seconds longer.

I never got the original, but after watching the extras disc, I wish I did.
There was really no new ground that hadn't been covered before somewhere.

People should save their money & just buy the single.

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What's in the uncut version? 22 sec? Is that it?

My Australian version was posted today. Good times.

My Australian version was posted today. Good times.

Ordered one myself.

so what is the actual verdict on the audio between LPCM and the new 24bit TrueHD? i currently have the original Australian version and am wondering if the new one is worth the upgrade at under $30 shipped.

anyone know also if the skipped frame is also on the collector's edition? this is minor since i just watched my original copy and didnt notice any skipped frame.

Some of you will be happy to hear the Australian release IS uncut and ABC region coded...

Some of you will be happy to hear the Australian release IS uncut and ABC region coded...

That's great! So it's confirmed then???? :D

so what is the actual verdict on the audio between LPCM and the new 24bit TrueHD? i currently have the original Australian version and am wondering if the new one is worth the upgrade at under $30 shipped.

The opening song does sound different. The vocals are more pronounced with the TrueHD and on the PCM track the mids do sound a bit cleaner. The PCM sounds like a natural music track in my opinion.

I'll update this post later on when I do some more comparisons.

Ok aside from the slight differences in the opening sound(which sounds awesome no matter what codec is used:p, Chris Cornell rocks.:D). After numerous back and forth comparisons, I came to the conclusion that I couldn't tell one from the other consistently. So unlike the Warner TrueHD/PCM Sony's does actually sound identical.

anyone know also if the skipped frame is also on the collector's edition? this is minor since i just watched my original copy and didnt notice any skipped frame.

I'd like to know this too.

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Guess I missed the boat.. Availability listed as "discontinued". :rolleyes:

Pics of my uncut Aussie set. Kind of boring:
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Into the UK case it goes...

Gee and to think i bought the original PCM 5.1 1 disc edition....Tsskk my patience went on this one if only i had waited that extra two weeks.

Nah really not bothered about the extras although i do wish they had shown the Miranda Frost extended love scenes in Die Another Day which i recently bought on Blu Ray.

Blimey. The Aussies have to have an awful ratings logo on the freakin' booklet too?

I'll stick with the delicious UK box, thankyouverymuch. I've got the R3 DVD (somewhere) if I ever feel the need to see Bond's balls being tickled UNCUT. :D

Blimey. The Aussies have to have an awful ratings logo on the freakin' booklet too?

I'll stick with the delicious UK box, thankyouverymuch. I've got the R3 DVD (somewhere) if I ever feel the need to see Bond's balls being tickled UNCUT. :D

Don't you mean scratched??? :p

So the new Aussie 2 disc blu-ray IS Uncut ? :confused:

So the new Aussie 2 disc blu-ray IS Uncut ? :confused:
Who said it wasn't?

Who said it wasn't?

Nobody said it was cut...

But for the love of "Fraggle Rock" is it confirmed UNCUT! :confused:

Nobody said it was cut...

But for the love of "Fraggle Rock" is it confirmed UNCUT! :confused:
Yes it's uncut for fook sake!

Yes it's uncut for fook sake!

Thanks man. I now understand. It was the parsnips.

Someone just posted a review link to me where he said that this collector's edition is better in PQ. They are the same encode right?

Hard to trust online reviews for obvious reasons.
Still looking for a definitive answer on this. Not going to double dip if it's still the same (not that the original was bad, but I could at least justify buying it again if there was potentially some improvement).

Sorry for bumping this old thread, but I want to get the uncut edition of Casino Royale. Fortunately for me, I never bought the original. I'm a big fan of this movie. Should I get the original or collector's edition? I don't really care about the extra all that much. I just want the uncut version of the movie with HD audio. Is the Australian version the best version for me? Can someone tell me where to order one? I'd love to order a copy. Thx!

Sorry for bumping this old thread, but I want to get the uncut edition of Casino Royale. Fortunately for me, I never bought the original. I'm a big fan of this movie. Should I get the original or collector's edition? I don't really care about the extra all that much. I just want the uncut version of the movie with HD audio. Is the Australian version the best version for me? Can someone tell me where to order one? I'd love to order a copy. Thx!

Yes, if extras aren't a key factor, go for the Australian edition (I did, and then paired it with the U.S. Collector's Edition so I could get both the unedited film and the bonus features) as found here: http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/792930.

Yes, if extras aren't a key factor, go for the Australian edition (I did, and then paired it with the U.S. Collector's Edition so I could get both the unedited film and the bonus features) as found here: http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/792930.

Wow, ezydvd has it in stock? I gave up ages ago waiting for it to be available and wound up assuming it was OOP.

Yes, if extras aren't a key factor, go for the Australian edition (I did, and then paired it with the U.S. Collector's Edition so I could get both the unedited film and the bonus features) as found here: http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/792930.

Is the regular Australia version of Casino Royale the same as the AU Collector's Edition of Casino Royale? At AU$24.97 for the regular edition, I'm not that far off from the Collector's Edition. Why would I want to get the AU and US edition as you have suggested?

Is Ezydvd.com.au a legitimate site to deal business with? How long does it take for them to ship from Australia to the continental US?

Is the regular Australia version of Casino Royale the same as the AU Collector's Edition of Casino Royale? At AU$24.97 for the regular edition, I'm not that far off from the Collector's Edition. Why would I want to get the AU and US edition as you have suggested?

I'm confused by this post. Where are you seeing the Australian version of the 2-disc Collector's Edition for sale? The very reason I got both the Australian single disc (for the unedited movie) and the U.S. Collector's Edition (for the full slate of bonus features) was to, in effect, synthesize the 2-disc Australian C.E. which, to my knowledge, went out of print very shortly after release.

Is Ezydvd.com.au a legitimate site to deal business with? How long does it take for them to ship from Australia to the continental US?

All I can say is that's where I got my copy from, so I consider them legit. I don't remember the exact shipping time, but I seem to recall it being in the 7-10 day window.

I'm confused by this post. Where are you seeing the Australian version of the 2-disc Collector's Edition for sale? The very reason I got both the Australian single disc (for the unedited movie) and the U.S. Collector's Edition (for the full slate of bonus features) was to, in effect, synthesize the 2-disc Australian C.E. which, to my knowledge, went out of print very shortly after release.

There's still a placeholder page for the AU 2-disc Casino Royale C.E. on ezydvd's website but it says "No Longer Available."

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/801587

Maybe Sgt_Strider saw the page and assumed it was still available for sale.

If you compare the two ezydvd web pages the AU versions' extras don't overlap, meaning the C.E.'s extras do not include the single disc extras. I wonder if that was really the case or if it's just an oversight by ezydvd. Perhaps buying the AU C.E. would not have gotten you all the extras after all.

If you compare the two ezydvd web pages the AU versions' extras don't overlap, meaning the C.E.'s extras do not include the single disc extras. I wonder if that was really the case or if it's just an oversight by ezydvd. Perhaps buying the AU C.E. would not have gotten you all the extras after all.

Not accurate; the single-disc Australian version includes:

"Becoming Bond" featurette (26:18)
"James Bond: For Real" featurette (23:35)
"Bond Girls Are Forever" documentary
- "A New Kind of Woman" (13:30)
- "Children of Our Generations" (17:55)
- "Bond Meets His Match" (17:37)
"You Know My Name" music video by Chris Cornell (4:09)

These exact same features are located on disc two of the Australian and American Collector's Editions.

Is Ezydvd.com.au a legitimate site to deal business with? How long does it take for them to ship from Australia to the continental US?
Nothing to worry about shopping from EzyDVD, it is all legit.

For those wanting the uncut Collector's Edition may I suggest getting the Dutch set.
http://www.mediadis.com/video/detail.asp?id=185057

For those wanting the uncut Collector's Edition may I suggest getting the Dutch set.
http://www.mediadis.com/video/detail.asp?id=185057

The Dutch release is even more expensive than I had thought. Why should I get the Dutch release over the Australian release? To be honest, I don't care about the extras all that much. I just want the uncut movie with a high quality encode and lossless audio!

If there's something that the Dutch release have, then I guess I'll fork over the cash and buy it. Is Mediadis a legitimate company to deal with?

The Dutch release is even more expensive than I had thought. Why should I get the Dutch release over the Australian release? To be honest, I don't care about the extras all that much. I just want the uncut movie with a high quality encode and lossless audio!
Which is why I wrote "For those wanting...", the CE has been brought up by others. Since the Australian release is OOP this is one option.
Is Mediadis a legitimate company to deal with?Yes, they are legitimate. All CEs are identical in content (subtitles and language selection may vary).

Which is why I wrote "For those wanting...", the CE has been brought up by others. Since the Australian release is OOP this is one option.
Yes, they are legitimate. All CEs are identical in content (subtitles and language selection may vary).

You can't be serious? If all CEs are the same, I'd mind as well buy the North American release and save myself some money. However, I've read that the Australian version is uncut. I'm not too sure about the Dutch release, but I think I read somewhere that it is. I'll have to double check before I use my credit card.

You can't be serious? If all CEs are the same, I'd mind as well buy the North American release and save myself some money. However, I've read that the Australian version is uncut. I'm not too sure about the Dutch release, but I think I read somewhere that it is. I'll have to double check before I use my credit card.

Identical as to the extras, not the film! The version of the film on the US BD is cut as is the UK one. Content and version of the film of the Dutch BD is the same as the Australian.

Since you're only after the uncut version then just go with the single disc.

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=10779

The Dutch release is even more expensive than I had thought. Why should I get the Dutch release over the Australian release? To be honest, I don't care about the extras all that much. I just want the uncut movie with a high quality encode and lossless audio!

If there's something that the Dutch release have, then I guess I'll fork over the cash and buy it. Is Mediadis a legitimate company to deal with?

Dear God, I'm sorry I even brought up the Collector's Edition. My friend, you're threatening to turn this molehill into a mountain. If a) you don't care about extras and b) you want the uncut film, then go with the Australian single disc at the ezydvd link I provided above. It's legit. You'll have want you want. Peace and harmony will reign across the land once more. We can put this issue to bed now.