Hi all, I received terminator sarah connor chronicles today, took some pics of the case and stuff

I cant actually watch it till early next week so ill let everyone know how it is then.

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Ew at the slipcover. Didn't realize it was even coming with one, but not particularly nice.

the color streaks on the slipcover is from the cameras flash, if that is what bothered you about it:)

Can you confirm if the blu ray is 100% region free?.

Can you confirm if the blu ray is 100% region free?.

It´s Warner, so YES it´s region-free :)

Watched 1st episode last night as Fox replayed it.

Other than budget, there is no reason why this doesn't have lossless. Plenty of action and there is a music score. Other than budget, any other reason is an excuse!!!

Summer is teh hotness.

Terminator:SCC Review (http://hometheatermag.com/moviereviews/080708sarah/)
Video: 3.5/5
Audio: 3.25/5
Extras: 3/5

The mother of all destiny. Her son, the future leader of mankind. Their protector, a Terminator from the future. Together they must take back the future as Sarah Connor prepares her son to fight the war against machines determined to annihilate the human race. The clock is ticking. Can they stop Judgment Day.

I didn’t get the chance to watch this during its run on TV but I was intrigued with the limited amount of trailers I saw. I’ve always been a fan of this series so naturally I wanted to see where they went with it. Unfortunately this is more of a rehash of stuff we’ve already seen with different packaging on it. The production values are decent, but they don’t hold a candle to the quality we’ve seen from the films. The acting is a bit on the dramatic side and some of the casting didn’t work very well for me. Ultimately we got bored with the series or just smirked a lot at how bad the dialogue and plotlines were. Hopefully the upcoming film will return this franchise to the level we’ve come to expect from past efforts.

The HD presentation isn’t too bad and its downfalls look to have more to do with the production limitations than the quality of the encode. The image is a bit noisy at times and contrast has been exaggerated giving the show a grittier look that has become popular with the genre. Colors are bold and slightly oversaturated but again this adds to the look. Whites are slightly clipped, which is always annoying, but blacks are solid with good shadow detail. I noticed some slight ringing here and there but nothing distracting. Detail is good overall, but the dimensionality of the image was a bit disappointing given that this is a newer show.

While it may sound like a broken record at times, Warner continues to use the legacy Dolby soundtracks with quite a few of their Blu-ray releases. While this may be a bigger deal with film releases rather than TV shows the majority of the market is still supporting lossless tracks even with their TV shows. Warner just continues to be behind the power curve in this department. Since this is an action show I was hoping the sound design of films would translate into the new series but like the special effects, this one comes up short. There is still plenty going on within the soundstage but dynamic range is limited. Bass rendition is there but you don’t get the extension this track deserves. A lot of the action sequences sound a bit canned in quality and the balance of the mix is inconsistent. The dialogue is recorded quite well though and timbre and tone sound very natural.

Extras include a selection of commentaries for a few of the episodes plus a look at creating the show. Some deleted and additional scenes are included along with a look at some of the stuff going on behind the scenes both before and during production. I was hoping for a sneak peek at Terminator Salvation, but Warner didn’t go for the tie-in I guess.

Ultimately this one left me a bit disappointed. The story uses a lot of the same material the films have already covered and the acting was a bit on the dramatic side. Production values are pretty strong considering this was made for TV, but they fall well short of the films. The A/V experience isn’t what I was hoping for both in production and presentation, so I’d be hard pressed to recommend buying this one.
K Deering

Audio: 3.25/5 = weak

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I usually end up liking the UK editions(if ther's any difference between the two versions packaging,encoding,and/or included material)better than the NA versions, but in this case i have to admit i like the disc art/packaging of the NA versions MUCH better.

My main gripe right now is, as I watch these, the disc starts playing automatically when you put it into the player. This is a bad enough practice on WB's part for movies, but for TV episodes it is worse since you may or may not want to start with the first episode.

Also.. there's a nifty option to enable/disable the "recaps" that say "last time on..." but this is by default disabled, so IF you want to watch the recaps you have to go into the menu (while the episode is already playing mind you) and change the setting, then retart the episode.

No gripes about the quality of the episodes... just the presentation problem of having the auto-start. I wish WB would stop doing that with their releases.

No gripes about the quality of the episodes... just the presentation problem of having the auto-start. I wish WB would stop doing that with their releases.

+1

HATE auto-start with no menu. It's made 10x worse because I have yet to see a menu yet that will come up when the video is paused. So you have to sit through the opening scene just to get the right soundtrack or options selected and then rewatch it. VERY annoying!!!

Cuz that Warner Bros logo is so awesome in HD I'd hate to miss it (I can somone in that yellow warehouse;)). Its easy to change using the PS3 controller (square,x,up,x,square). I'll take that over Disney's you wouldn't steal a car and coming to Disney Bluray. Harold&Kumar has a truth commericial (its okay to smoke weed but not cigerates?).

I hate the autostarts too.

I've gotten used to just hitting audio, because English 2 is nearly always the lossless track when there is one, but you know once that becomes totally automatic for me they'll change it.

I usually end up liking the UK editions(if ther's any difference between the two versions packaging,encoding,and/or included material)better than the NA versions, but in this case i have to admit i like the disc art/packaging of the NA versions MUCH better.

Hmm, I think the UK version has a much better packaging, but, I guess I'm still missing River from Firefly (and the Borg Queen allusion on the back cover is cool too). Been watching the replays (Fox filling time during the Olympics) and actually getting back into things, so at the current price I'll probably pick it up, but, the NA, version as the Pound exchange rate would kill me, and I'm saving up for Torchwood.

I seriously need to go pick this up.

Finally got a chance to watch a few episodes and for pq i would rate it say 3.5-4, it just didnt blow me away, but it did have consistent pq, and aq was good enough, everything was clearly understood, dont know if a lossless would have added much.

Ok, one more complaint... That center thingy that holds disc 1 & disc 2 is not very good at holding the discs. My disc 2 practically falls off just looking at it wrong. The spindle is almost exactly the same height as the thickness of the Blu ray disc so not much margin for error once you take the disc off and put it back on a couple of times.

I just went over to the Warner site and pre ordered this.

Saved a bit of cash (cheaper than A****) by using the code in the bogo/deals thread above.

Seggers

Ok, one more complaint... That center thingy that holds disc 1 & disc 2 is not very good at holding the discs. My disc 2 practically falls off just looking at it wrong. The spindle is almost exactly the same height as the thickness of the Blu ray disc so not much margin for error once you take the disc off and put it back on a couple of times.
That's cheaply made US crap packaging for you, mate. I have trouble getting the discs off the spindles with the UK set.

That's cheaply made US crap packaging for you, mate. I have trouble getting the discs off the spindles with the UK set.

The sad part is that is only partly true... because I can actually hand-make even cheaper packaging that would actually hold the discs more securely. It would look like crap, but would be functionally better.

Even when companies appear to go the cheap route (and trust me they do try) they sometimes miss an opportunity to go even cheaper but actually make a better product.

At least I enjoyed the shows, and am looking forward to the new season!

I'll be picking this up on Tuesday, at Future Shop in Canada, we're supposedly getting this in a steelbook packaging - hope it looks good!

I'll be picking this up on Tuesday, at Future Shop in Canada, we're supposedly getting this in a steelbook packaging - hope it looks good!

Nice I'll have to check that out!:)

Looks like the Steelbook blu-ray listing may have been a mistake and only apply to SD DVD... weakness. I'll still check out FS on Tuesday just in case...

That's cheaply made US crap packaging for you, mate. I have trouble getting the discs off the spindles with the UK set.

Amen. US cases are freaking pathetic IMO. I just want all movies to come in blue PS3 cases.

It's a good, smart show that got the shaft due to the writers' strike. Summer and Lena are especially superb in their roles, and not just because they are the hotness (Summer has the Terminator "glare" and menace down pat and if Cameron looked and walked towards me that way I'd probably wet myself!). BAG is surprisingly good (especially in The Demon Hand) and Thomas Dekker is growing on me since they started to beef up the drama as they went along. Derek's birthday gift to John is especially moving.

This deserved a better transfer, lossless audio, and better packaging.

Lost on Blu-ray looks stunning, and not just because they use a new Sony HDcam (film can look great too) and it has PCM audio.

Season 2 should have a full 22 episodes and looks to be veeery interesting (they're also increasing the scope of their environments... they even shot at the Santa Monica Pier and similar locations as "No Country For Old Men"). I'm especially psyched to see Episode 4, which goes into Cameron's terminator origins. Summer Glau said this was her favorite episode so far. They seem to have put a small clip of Ep 4 in the newest promos and it looks like Cameron (a possibly human Cameron) is escaping from some building in the future... Skynet's headquarters?

On a cool note, they were able to use one of Arnold's original weapons from the James Cameron Terminator films.

Also, due to a bigger budget, Cameron can do more powerful and interesting things than you thought possible from a Terminator, especially a smaller female machine.

And since it's already out there from ComicCon... one of the main characters bites it this season, and Summer already knows who it is (supposedly she's the only one so far). Hmmm...

It's not going to be John or Sarah Connor, so let's narrow it down...

Even if I really liked the story content, I still would not buy this on Blu Ray because of the quality.

It's not going to be John or Sarah Connor, so let's narrow it down...

Let's watch the show and not spoil for those of us who'd prefer not to know until then........

Thanks muchly.

Seggers

Lost on Blu-ray looks stunning, and not just because they use a new Sony HDcam (film can look great too)

I'm pretty sure Lost is still primarily shot on film. In the Season 3 bonus features, you can clearly see film canisters on the cameras during the behind-the-scenes footage.

Can anybody comment to the audio level on the br release? Is the dialog really quiet, like it seems to be when they broadcast on Fox, or is the overall level more "nominal"?

Also, what is the framerate on SCC, anyway? Is it supposed to be a film-like 24 fps or is it 60 Hz video? When I recorded it last night, I was just playing around with the frame-by-frame, and noticed that it didn't seem to have the particular cadence you would expect for 24 or 60. So I wonder, what is the real material supposed to be? :confused:

Can anybody comment to the audio level on the br release? Is the dialog really quiet, like it seems to be when they broadcast on Fox, or is the overall level more "nominal"?

Also, what is the framerate on SCC, anyway? Is it supposed to be a film-like 24 fps or is it 60 Hz video? When I recorded it last night, I was just playing around with the frame-by-frame, and noticed that it didn't seem to have the particular cadence you would expect for 24 or 60. So I wonder, what is the real material supposed to be? :confused:

It´s shot in 24 fps.

I took a quick look at a few episodes. I think the image quality is good. It's much better looking than the broadcast I have stored (which in itself isn't really saying much).

What about the sound, though? Do you have to really turn it up just to get the dialog at a comfortable listening level?

During the moments I viewed, dialog was nicely balanced with the rest of the mix. My volume control was at around the usual level for a DD track.

Now was the volume level pretty much the same as when it was broadcast, or substantially different?

Didn't Kris review this? Doesn't anyone trust him?

Didn't Kris review this? Doesn't anyone trust him?

Yes, he did review it and I agree with his overall A/V assessment. The picture quality is good, although I did see a bit of distracting banding. That being said, it doesn't keep me from enjoying a low-cost HDM version of a show that I really like. Also, anyone who knows the show from watching broadcast HD knows what A/V limitations exist that aren't likely related to the quality of the encoding. My Comcast feed of this show is loaded with compression artifacts and other interruptions that the Blu-ray version eliminates.

Now was the volume level pretty much the same as when it was broadcast, or substantially different?

I haven't listened to the broadcast's audio full-bore in a while, but I don't remember any notable volume balance issues with the show itself (the commercials were ridiculously loud as usual).

EDIT: I see that you mean the overall volume level. Broadcast volume levels are all over the place with many shows I watch, so it's possible that it was low compared to other shows. I usually don't note these things given the variation.

Yeah, I suppose that [volume of commercials] was part of the problem, as well. ;)

It just seemed that the show, itself, was attenuated (more so, than even the regular "quietness" of hd shows), which made the commercials that much more annoying (not only loud to begin with, but ridiculously loud because you had to crank the volume of a "quieter than quiet" show on top of that).

I'm annoyed that WB had the auto-start on this TV show. I'd rather have a menu for TV shows. Movies, I don't mind, but it's annoying with this.

I'm annoyed that WB had the auto-start on this TV show. I'd rather have a menu for TV shows. Movies, I don't mind, but it's annoying with this.

I definitely agree with you on this, I hardly ever use a 'play all' feature for TV Shows as I like to take breaks between episodes and having a BD auto start in play all mode is really irritating. I personally don't mind it when Warners does that for movies however.

Got mine on Saturday from WHV.:cool:

The lack of a main menu is pretty annoying. They need to take some cues from Universal when it comes to TV series.

So far, I'd say that the PQ improvement over the HD broadcast isn't is noticeable as it is for Heroes. Still an improvement, though.

Wow! I'm finding this series much better than I remembered it being when I watched it the first time on TV. Maybe it's the combination of BD and no commercials, I don't know. And I LOVE RIVER TAM, um... I mean Summer Glau. She played a great Freakazoid killing machine in Firefly, and now she's a great Terminator killing machine in SCC.

On the technical side of things, I agree that the lack of menus is quite irritating. Especially since there are 3 episodes on a single disc. I am glad that the previous episode recap is defaulted to 'off' though.

Yeah, it's great stuff.

I listened to the two episode commentaries on the first disc and found them entertaining. Summer Glau seems to have a nice personality, and Lena Headey has a great sense of humor.

The references in the show comparing the creation of the atom bomb (Now we're all sons of bitches) with the genesis of Skynet/terminator technology and Michaelangelo's Creation of Adam to the Terminator with outreached hand (Come with me if you want to live) are exquisite moments of the series that almost bring a tear to my eye.

Runner up moment goes to when Sarah Conner first hears about 9/11 and compares how unbelievable that sounds with Judgement Day and the existence of the terminators as being utterly unbelievable in our world.

There are a lot of corny, utterly cheesy moments to this series, but when it is at its best, it is freakin' off the scale. ;)

This series overall is just OK, but did get better towards the end (particularly the "Chain-House" episode). FOX just re-ran the entire series nightly in an attempt to counter the Olympics. It's not compelling enough for me to purchase and it's available OTA. Sure, it has more compression than the BD boxset, but it's free. But I didn't bother to record it, either.

Wow! I'm finding this series much better than I remembered it being when I watched it the first time on TV. Maybe it's the combination of BD and no commercials,.
I agree. The lack of commercials makes a huge difference. More so than most other TV shows.
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I rented the first disc via Netflix and was very impressed -- and I was highly skeptical. Highly! So I just placed an order from WHV using the 30% off coupon, which makes it $20!

So it appears some are quite happy with this. I'll have to check it out. Thanks to all for your opinions. I am also highly skeptical but time will tell.

Summer Glau, Lena Headey, and Brian Austin Green (or BAG) are standouts. Summer does a BANG ON Terminator. Much better than even old Arnie (and that's not because she's a hottie).

Just watch the scene where Cromartie shows up at the high school and Cameron is grilling one of her student friends for quick information. She looks like she could kill with just her eyes! She makes the TX in T3 (what a godawful movie that was) look like a pansy!

Overall a good show that really started to shine later on before it got left hanging with only 9 episodes out of its original 13 due to the strike. The scene with Cameron dancing spontaneously in her room and Derek's reaction to that surprising moment, and the scene in the park with Derek and John are classics and are as good as anything from T1 and T2. Also, the small talk moments between Cameron and John are well done, especially the last two episodes. And the wink... I'd turn into puddy if Cameron winked at me like that!

I just hope in the rush for more viewers in Season 2 they don't drop these types of little cool moments for just pure action.

I'm pretty sure Lost is still primarily shot on film. In the Season 3 bonus features, you can clearly see film canisters on the cameras during the behind-the-scenes footage.

Strange, because when Lost Season 3 came out on Blu-ray there was discussion of the type of cameras used and it was mentioned that they had switched to top end HD video cameras rather than film to save on production costs.

Summer Glau, Lena Headey, and Brian Austin Green (or BAG) are standouts. Summer does a BANG ON Terminator. Much better than even old Arnie (and that's not because she's a hottie).

Just watch the scene where Cromartie shows up at the high school and Cameron is grilling one of her student friends for quick information. She looks like she could kill with just her eyes! She makes the TX in T3 (what a godawful movie that was) look like a pansy!

Overall a good show that really started to shine later on before it got left hanging with only 9 episodes out of its original 13 due to the strike. The scene with Cameron dancing spontaneously in her room and Derek's reaction to that surprising moment, and the scene in the park with Derek and John are classics and are as good as anything from T1 and T2. Also, the small talk moments between Cameron and John are well done, especially the last two episodes. And the wink... I'd turn into puddy if Cameron winked at me like that!

I just hope in the rush for more viewers in Season 2 they don't drop these types of little cool moments for just pure action.

And I would add the scene where Cameron is getting 'Grief Counseling' to that list as well.

And I would add the scene where Cameron is getting 'Grief Counsiling' to that list as well.

Summer's reaction to the councelor's questions were hilarious!

And I loved the one-liner she gives when asked if the car she's fiddling with is hers.

I'm curious to find out what Cameron wrote in her grieving letter.

There's much more to Cameron than meets the eye. And Episode 4 of Season 2 should shine some light on the origins of some of the Terminators and Cameron in particular. We've never been privy to that bit of knowledge before. I wonder if they consulted with James Cameron (the source of Cameron's name, of course) on that.

There are also a miriad of references to Frank L. Baum's "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" story throughout the show. The Connor's new alias is... Baum, for one.

When asked if Cameron loves John Connor, Summer stated she thought Cam loves him as much as any robot could (she even did a very emotional scene where Cameron breaks down and cries-- showing how much she cares). And John feels the same way, according to Thomas Dekker. He just doesn't know how to express it to a machine and it comes off as being gruff to her. Instead of saying "I love you," he cracks that she's soulless, when he's really not so sure, as one example.

Perhaps our Tin-Miss has a heart after all.

I can't wait!!

John: "I call shotgun!"

Cameron (innocently): "I call nine-millimeter."
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Brilliant. I hope Season 2 has even more clever writing.....

John: "I call shotgun!"

Cameron (innocently): "I call nine-millimeter."
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Brilliant. I hope Season 2 has even more clever writing.....

Actually, it looks like it does seeing some spoiler footage I shouldn't have. Cameron is curious about... religion and queries Sarah about it. Probably due to her own "resurrection" so to speak.

Also, Cam and John have it out big time (John is fed up with him being pulled towards his destiny by two overbearing, to him, women; especially his smothering mom). He speaks his mind and she hers (she kind of looks sad). What she has to say may be surprising since this is a machine protector speaking to the possible future leader of mankind. This robo-gal seems to be learning to find her voice. Go Cammy!

After John pulls away from Sarah and Cameron he falls under the wing of his uncle Derek, who may not be entirely trustworthy (given the fact he knows Cameron and won't tell John, and has killed Andy Goode in cold blood and has said nothing, and holds a grudge against John for getting his brother killed even if Kyle did father John) and another buxom, teenage blonde girl by the name of Riley. Sarah dislikes Derek's war-like influence and his tendancy towards all-out machine-hatred, especially of Cameron. Cameron, on the other hand, cannot easily protect John since he has told her off and is overtly jealous of Riley and her ability to keep John's attention away from her. The jealousy may be partially due to her love for John besides her "job" of keeping him safe. She's putting love and the fact she's modeled and programmed as a girl together (a sense of self is emerging) and she is learning to use her femininity and her new found wiles...like using her body and outfitting it in skimpy or tight outfits to get John's attention; one reason they made a point of her being curious about what John is doing, painting her nails, wearing short skirts or little at all, and being interested in how robo-Vick's human wife was sexually aroused by his caresses besides their expressions of marital love... though Vick was only acting as an infiltrator, a copy of her husband to gather intel. Remember too how she responded when John was about to cut into her scalp? It was very familiar. Then, of course, John caressing her face right before she rebooted?

How Cam responds to "the other woman" and John to both girls has been described by one of the producers, John Wirth, as a triangle to make things interesting. Who will win John's affections and influence his mind? A human with a mysterious past, or an equally mysterious cyborg?

The other problem is that The Turk has fallen into the hands of a meglomaniacal tech corporation run by Catherine Weaver who will help turn it into an early version of Skynet.

Charley and Agent Ellison have teamed up due to their common knowledge of killer cyborgs from the future among us. And Charley and Derek meet up as well. Two of the new father-figures in John's life... one a healer, the other a warrior. There was also a hint in various interviews and such that Ellison and Sarah may hook up.

And the biggest whammy of all: one of the main characters will die and it may blow your mind. Summer Glau already knows the answer, but supposedly no other actor on the ComicCon panel knew. Their reactions were priceless.

Watching the episode where they hack the chip from the triple 8. There is a scene where it show the triple 8 had a human wife. I couldn't find her credited anywhere, but was the actress who played the trip 8's wife (Mrs. Vick Chamberlain) Jenette Goldstein? Jenette Goldstein was also the same actress who played John Connor's foster mother in T2. One of her best roles, of course, was Private Vasquez, in Aliens.

Watching the episode where they hack the chip from the triple 8. There is a scene where it show the triple 8 had a human wife. I couldn't find her credited anywhere, but was the actress who played the trip 8's wife (Mrs. Vick Chamberlain) Jenette Goldstein? Jenette Goldstein was also the same actress who played John Connor's foster mother in T2. One of her best roles, of course, was Private Vasquez, in Aliens.

I don't think it was. She seemed too young, and Josh Friedman stated he doesn't like doing cameos as it acts as a distraction. One reason he didn't have the actor who played Dr. Silberman come back to reprise his roll.

Too bad because Micheal Biehn would have been cool as Kyle and Derek's dad.

And the reason the T-888 had a wife was because he killed the husband and took his place.

I wonder if they were setting up the possibility that there is more than one Cameron model out there. Because it looked like in one viewscreen shot that there were multiple Vicks.

I don't think it was. She seemed too young, and Josh Friedman stated he doesn't like doing cameos as it acts as a distraction. One reason he didn't have the actor who played Dr. Silberman come back to reprise his roll.

Too bad because Micheal Biehn would have been cool as Kyle and Derek's dad.

And the reason the T-888 had a wife was because he killed the husband and took his place.

I wonder if they were setting up the possibility that there is more than one Cameron model out there. Because it looked like in one viewscreen shot that there were multiple Vicks.

Okay after some digging, I finally found out that the actress is Karina Logue.

I think the PQ is great on this set. WAAAYYY more consistent than Heroes. Pretty tack sharp in just about every scene. The lack of lossless didn't hurt the quality whatsoever. I was surprised by the amount of LFE in various scenes and in the score. Would it have been nice? Yeah. Does it really make too much difference in a TV show? Too me, not as much. the lack of lossless on a movie title such as Speed Racer does however but thats a different story. Can't wait for season 2 off SCC!!!

I think the PQ is great on this set. WAAAYYY more consistent than Heroes. Pretty tack sharp in just about every scene. The lack of lossless didn't hurt the quality whatsoever. I was surprised by the amount of LFE in various scenes and in the score. Would it have been nice? Yeah. Does it really make too much difference in a TV show? Too me, not as much.

I guess you never heard Prison Break DTS-MA lossless. It sounds incredible.

Once you hear DTS-MA you can never go back to plain vanilla Dolby d.

I guess you never heard Prison Break DTS-MA lossless. It sounds incredible.

Once you hear DTS-MA you can never go back to plain vanilla Dolby d.

I have LOST which is PCM but im just saying it's not that detrimental to a TV series to avoid buying it. To each his own though.

I just watched the first episode. The pq seemed fine as did the sound but please someone tell me it gets better. The frist episode was such garbage I actually did catch myself laughing out loud a few times. The generic terminator guy was SO terrible it wasnt even funny . "class dismissed" I think I vomited a little. Some of the plot seemd a little too muddy as well. The whole bank thing seemed way to convienit and unrealistic even for a time traveling sci fi show.

I just watched the first episode. The pq seemed fine as did the sound but please someone tell me it gets better. The frist episode was such garbage I actually did catch myself laughing out loud a few times. The generic terminator guy was SO terrible it wasnt even funny . "class dismissed" I think I vomited a little. Some of the plot seemd a little too muddy as well. The whole bank thing seemed way to convienit and unrealistic even for a time traveling sci fi show.

It's get better. Yes there are a few things in the first couple of eps that are bit of a stretch, and will have you rolling your eyes (I had a hard time with Cromartie rebuilding himself). But after things get going, the good far out weighs the bad. And now that I've seen the season twice, I have to say that I caught quite a bit of nuance that I didn't catch the first time through on TV. In the end, I find that the preformances of some of the actors are what sell this show. Especially Summer Glau (at least for me.)

I'm watching both Terminator: TSCC and Prison Break Season 3 right now. The picture is very good on both (though a little bit better on Prison Break) but the sound of PB really is a lot better then that of TSCC. I think that's more due to the fact that the mix of Terminator is really front heavy and plain boring. I don't think a lossless track would have made much diffrence. The sounddesign of Prison Break is just way better and more involving.

As a counterpoint (but not necessary refuttal) to Rutgar's comments, I don't know if it can be said that it gets better. In one way, yes, it does get better, but perhaps not in the way you might expect. The corny/cheesy areas seem to continue throughout the season, imo. Seems like the weakest moments are when they deal with introducing technology (which is really ironic, considering the nature of the show). They need to get a real "technologist" on the writing staff asap, imo.

To balance that issue out, though, the rest of the season certainly does offer more instances of really awesome moments, too! The first episode really doesn't have a chance to clue you in to all the cool things that will come later. So in that respect, the series does improve past the first episode. I think the net result can be best described as the better moments certainly do appear after the first episodes, but the weak and corny moments seem to be sticking in there, as well (as opposed to the weak moments being replaced or strengthened into good moments).

Then there is always the natural growing pains of new series- writing, actors/actresses getting more in sync with each other, production becoming more smooth operation. These things are always rough in the beginning and then gradually work into a harmony as the series progresses.

Watched the first 3 episodes today from Netflix. PQ was pretty nice, AQ was lackluster like most here have said.

Don't know if I'll bother getting the other discs really...entertainment-wise it's as watchable as Terminator 3, but fairly cheesy and much lower production values, of course. Unecessary, but o.k. for TV, I guess. If it wasn't for Summer I probably wouldn't have watched this far, sadly.

Watched the first 3 episodes today from Netflix. PQ was pretty nice, AQ was lackluster like most here have said.

Don't know if I'll bother getting the other discs really...entertainment-wise it's as watchable as Terminator 3, but fairly cheesy and much lower production values, of course. Unecessary, but o.k. for TV, I guess. If it wasn't for Summer I probably wouldn't have watched this far, sadly.

To each their own. I think you're being a little too hard on it. It is only a TV show. And we all know the budget limitations these types of shows are faced with. I'm not making excuses for it, and I know it has its flaws. But you ought to go ahead and watch the rest of it. Afterall, there are only six more episodes. Who knows, it might grow on you. Then again, maybe not.

I`ve only watched the 1st two episodes so far but I am impressed with the Blu-ray version. I only caught the first 2 or 3 on TV and they look a lot better on these discs. They are not reference or anything but look pretty good for a TV show.

I personally really like this series and am looking forward to seeing the rest and also catching season 2 after.

I watched the first two episodes today and the PQ is pretty good, not outstanding. Lost is one of the best TV on Blu-ray images yet.

The sound needs some MAJOR work for a show based on James Cameron's Terminator films (1 & 2). It would help with some of the budget limitations if the audio packed a wallop and the surround mix was engaging.

Should have been lossless as well.

As for the show, I'm enjoying it even more now as even the plain old DD track sounds cleaner and clearer (in the dialog) and I can catch more of the by play between the characters.

It's MUCH better than T3 as they try to give the Terminator a more well rounded roll and the characters more humanity. Cameron is full of surprises and is not one dimensional like Arnie's take. Summer is a delight. As I said before, she can look far more fierce when needed than Loken's take in T3.

I even like the "wide eyed" look she gave those diamonds from the safe house... she may be a machine, but she knows what a girl likes! She was so cute when she asked Sarah why "diamonds are a girl's best friend." And anyone notice the symbolism of John Connor giving Cameron a diamond?

And in the potato chip moment you could more clearly hear Cameron's feelings coming through when she told John he has many friends in the future. and when she said she was different than the other Terminators. Summer seems to think that Cameron doesn't just look at protecting John as another job. There's a growing love deep down.

Season 2 will be pretty cool, I think.

What's with the audio pops throughout the extended version of Demon Hand? They occur exactly every 25 seconds. (How has nobody mentioned them before? You can't miss them.)

Don't know if I'll bother getting the other discs really...entertainment-wise it's as watchable as Terminator 3, but fairly cheesy and much lower production values, of course. Unecessary, but o.k. for TV, I guess. If it wasn't for Summer I probably wouldn't have watched this far, sadly.

It's nothing but fan fiction (and somewhat inaccurate), if you ask me. T3 was better.

To be honest I finally watched the second episode and I have to admit imo it was WAY better and not as corny as the first episode thank goodness!!! The one thing the bothers me is how much of a puss john is though...you'd think after the events of the second movie that would turn anyone into a hard ass bitter person instead of a whinny teenager who cannot take care of themselves. Imagine if Sarah wasnt who she was after the first movie...it wouldnt make any sense if she was. Maybe the writers are going for a "hey look at how weak this kid is...ironic that he'll save mankind against machines huh?" Frankly I find that to be dull and already done and not realistic. I can understand a coming of age story...but come on there has to be show of a intelligence or signs that he is who he is suppose to become. While night and day changes are possible...I find this change unbelievable.

Yes, just started watching. Gets better, and the score them in credits - awesome (sounding)!

Also started Heroes last night - amazing PQ!

Yes, just started watching. Gets better, and the score them in credits - awesome (sounding)!


The last 2 episodes are VERY good, as good any anything really. The final episode of season 1 is a work of art, IMHO, simply amazing drama. One can only hope that season 2 maintains that level of quality.

The one thing the bothers me is how much of a puss john is though...you'd think after the events of the second movie that would turn anyone into a hard ass bitter person instead of a whinny teenager who cannot take care of themselves. Imagine if Sarah wasnt who she was after the first movie...it wouldnt make any sense if she was. Maybe the writers are going for a "hey look at how weak this kid is...ironic that he'll save mankind against machines huh?" Frankly I find that to be dull and already done and not realistic. I can understand a coming of age story...but come on there has to be show of a intelligence or signs that he is who he is suppose to become. While night and day changes are possible...I find this change unbelievable.

That's part of what the series is going to be about. You can see a few instances in the first season where John revolts against his over protective mother and his over protective Terminator. In one episode he states that if he's never allowed to do anything he'll never become the future hero he's supposed to be. The second season will continue to show how John becomes the man who will be the leader, so the writers do have a plan.

I'm pretty sure Lost is still primarily shot on film. In the Season 3 bonus features, you can clearly see film canisters on the cameras during the behind-the-scenes footage.Cannisters?

Cannisters?

Sorry, I meant film mags, obviously.

Yeah, it would be weird seeing film cannisters sitting on top of a camera. :)

What's with the audio pops throughout the extended version of Demon Hand? They occur exactly every 25 seconds. (How has nobody mentioned them before? You can't miss them.)

Yeah, I just noticed this last night. I watched the regular version of Demon Hand by mistake so I just jumped to the extended scene with Sarah. I get the annoying audio crackles every 30 seconds or so like you said. It really makes it impossible to watch the extended version.

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What's with the audio pops throughout the extended version of Demon Hand? They occur exactly every 25 seconds. (How has nobody mentioned them before? You can't miss them.)
Yeah, I just noticed this last night. I watched the regular version of Demon Hand by mistake so I just jumped to the extended scene with Sarah. I get the annoying audio crackles every 30 seconds or so like you said. It really makes it impossible to watch the extended version.
They did say at the beginning of it that it wasn't "finished" as in audio and studio polishing. At one point, you could see green screen (?). I agree the sound was annoying, and I turned it off shortly after Sarah's speech.
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i like to series
no regrets
if we get abit more bang for the buck in upcomig seasons
i will buy it

are there any specifications like
playlist to back up a copy of it!!!!!!!!!

i like to series
no regrets
if we get abit more bang for the buck in upcomig seasons
i will buy it

are there any specifications like
playlist to back up a copy of it!!!!!!!!!
Back up a copy of something you don't own? :confused:

no
making a backup that i owned
so i can play backups without ruin my originals

I went into this one with some reservations but I ended up thoroughly enjoying the entire run and was left wanting nothing bur more when the early end came. I've got high hopes for this show going forward.

The new season starts a week from tonight. I already have my DVR set up.

since carnivale, deadwood and rome are now defunct, this is the best show on tv

since carnivale, deadwood and rome are now defunct, this is the best show on tv
There's still a half-season of Battlestar Galactica left... and Dexter is quite good as well.

since carnivale, deadwood and rome are now defunct, this is the best show on tv

um...Vic Mackey and The Oceanic 6 would like a word with you....

um...Vic Mackey and The Oceanic 6 would like a word with you....

personal opinon. I do like Lost, it just doesn't grab me the way it once did.

um...Vic Mackey and The Oceanic 6 would like a word with you....
The sixth season of The Shield was so awful I gave up on it entirely. Same with the fourth season of Rescue Me. If it wasn't for Damages, I wouldn't even have a reason to watch FX anymore, which just makes me sad. The fifth season of The Shield was so awesome I still don't understand what happened to the show last year.

Oooh, there's another one to add to my list: Damages.

Hi, for those of you with the North American version of the Sarah Connor Chronicle Bluray set, would you confirm for me if there is a Chinese subtitle track for the episodes please? I would like to buy the bluray version for my Dad for the chinese subtitle, which is on the DVD version, but I'm not sure if it is on the bluray one.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Hi, for those of you with the North American version of the Sarah Connor Chronicle Bluray set, would you confirm for me if there is a Chinese subtitle track for the episodes please? I would like to buy the bluray version for my Dad for the chinese subtitle, which is on the DVD version, but I'm not sure if it is on the bluray one.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

It only says "English, French and Spanish" on the back of the coverart.

It only says "English, French and Spanish" on the back of the coverart.

That's unfortunate, I wonder if other subtitle tracks not listed in the coverart are available on the disc?

That's unfortunate, I wonder if other subtitle tracks not listed in the coverart are available on the disc?

I'll pop it in later and check.

I'll pop it in later and check.

That would be great, thank you, Gizmo!

Just checked, sorry, only English, French and Spanish. No options for anything else.

Damn that sucks, I am really surprised that the DVD has more subtitle tracks than the bluray version!

Thanks again for your info, Gizmo!

Anyone know what happened to the foil slipcover seen here:
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/40b168f6829d61af7af94ba067b8fbfa4g.jpg

I went to 2 best buys and none had them. It was just the plain box packaging.

I ended up ordering from Amazon just to get the $19.99 sale price.

So what happened to the foil slipcover? Was it limited or something?

All slip covers are limited. Just go to a different store...I see them all the time.

Granted it's only 13 eps, but Season 1 is insanely priced right now; I may go ahead and pick it up. And yes, Season 2 is so much better. So far.

Granted it's only 13 eps, but Season 1 is insanely priced right now;.

9 eps

Heh, you're right; got that turned around. I was thinking of 22 minus 9 for a "shortened" complete season. Maybe that price isn't so great....

Anyone know what happened to the foil slipcover seen here:
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/40b168f6829d61af7af94ba067b8fbfa4g.jpg

I went to 2 best buys and none had them. It was just the plain box packaging.

I ended up ordering from Amazon just to get the $19.99 sale price.

So what happened to the foil slipcover? Was it limited or something?

I got the foil slipcover from Amazon when it was released.

Anyone know what happened to the foil slipcover seen here:
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/40b168f6829d61af7af94ba067b8fbfa4g.jpg

I went to 2 best buys and none had them. It was just the plain box packaging.

I ended up ordering from Amazon just to get the $19.99 sale price.

So what happened to the foil slipcover? Was it limited or something?
On the majority of DVD releases with slipcovers, the slipcover has disappeared after a while. I think they're mostly a marketing gimmick to get people to buy the discs right away and I have to admit that it works pretty well on me. I'd definitely rather have a disc with the slipcover than without.

Yeah, it's great stuff.

I listened to the two episode commentaries on the first disc and found them entertaining. Summer Glau seems to have a nice personality, and Lena Headey has a great sense of humor.

yeah and a really amazing series.
easily the best on TV now.

Summer's reaction to the councelor's questions were hilarious!

And I loved the one-liner she gives when asked if the car she's fiddling with is hers.

I'm curious to find out what Cameron wrote in her grieving letter.

There's much more to Cameron than meets the eye. And Episode 4 of Season 2 should shine some light on the origins of some of the Terminators and Cameron in particular. We've never been privy to that bit of knowledge before. I wonder if they consulted with James Cameron (the source of Cameron's name, of course) on that.

There are also a miriad of references to Frank L. Baum's "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" story throughout the show. The Connor's new alias is... Baum, for one.

When asked if Cameron loves John Connor, Summer stated she thought Cam loves him as much as any robot could (she even did a very emotional scene where Cameron breaks down and cries-- showing how much she cares). And John feels the same way, according to Thomas Dekker. He just doesn't know how to express it to a machine and it comes off as being gruff to her. Instead of saying "I love you," he cracks that she's soulless, when he's really not so sure, as one example.

Perhaps our Tin-Miss has a heart after all.

I can't wait!!


yeah it's pretty funny to me they went with the Baum name, seeing how it's mine (and most of the characters actually pronounce it correctly too :D).

the blu-ray way improves the PQ over the OTA quality (a shame they didn't go lossless for the audio though)

fantastically done series, so many little moments done so well.
yeah, Summer pulls off an amazing cyborg, fantastic acting.

This series has seriously sparked me to watch TV regularly again... I'm paying for HD, DVR, HDMI this n that... and all I ever do is watch movies and a few episodes of the Unit . Love the series, actors, drama etc. Very well done for a TV show.

This series has seriously sparked me to watch TV regularly again... I'm paying for HD, DVR, HDMI this n that... and all I ever do is watch movies and a few episodes of the Unit . Love the series, actors, drama etc. Very well done for a TV show.

I agree. One of the few recent shows that has pulled me into watching TV again. Mad Men, The Office, and 30 Rock being the others.

i just got through watching the first 3 episode of this for the first time and i'm really enjoying it.

I agree. One of the few recent shows that has pulled me into watching TV again. Mad Men, The Office, and 30 Rock being the others.

Ah yes, the Office and dare I say Chuck is my 'tother.

I agree. One of the few recent shows that has pulled me into watching TV again. Mad Men, The Office, and 30 Rock being the others.
Watch Pushing Daisies! It's a fantastic show that no one watches. The first season (shortened by the strike) is out on Blu. The Blu-ray looks great, but Warner screwed us and only put regular Dolby Digital on it, so no HD audio.

Anyone know what happened to the foil slipcover seen here:
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/40b168f6829d61af7af94ba067b8fbfa4g.jpg

I went to 2 best buys and none had them. It was just the plain box packaging.

I ended up ordering from Amazon just to get the $19.99 sale price.

So what happened to the foil slipcover? Was it limited or something?

I just received my copy from Amazon today and it does have the foil slip cover. So if anyone is still wondering about this, your safe going with Amazon.

I thought all along while seeing this series,this Sarah is not the one but I was impressed her as in The Gladiator.

Granted it's only 13 eps, but Season 1 is insanely priced right now; I may go ahead and pick it up. And yes, Season 2 is so much better. So far.

Well I watched season 1 last week and I loved it. Too bad I'm to late to catch up. :(

i just got through watching the first 3 episode of this for the first time and i'm really enjoying it.

Beware if you haven't started season 2 (like me) you'll be hungry for more when you'll eject the third disc...
I watched the 3 disc back to back.

Season 2 releases 8/25.

What's up with the pricing? Seems like most of the new series' being released this fall have really high MSRP. $50 for TSCC seems a bit steep even for pre-orders.

Season 2 releases 8/25.

What's up with the pricing? Seems like most of the new series' being released this fall have really high MSRP. $50 for TSCC seems a bit steep even for pre-orders.It's a full season of 22 hour-long (tv hour) episodes. Seems normal to me.

It's a full season of 22 hour-long (tv hour) episodes. Seems normal to me.

True enough, the 1st was a half season. I'd forgot that.

I thought all along while seeing this series,this Sarah is not the one but I was impressed her as in The Gladiator.


You sure you're not confusing Lena Headey with Connie Nielsen? AFAIK Lena Headey was not in Gladiator. But what the hey, same diff. Right?

Season 2 releases 8/25.

What's up with the pricing? Seems like most of the new series' being released this fall have really high MSRP. $50 for TSCC seems a bit steep even for pre-orders.

It releases 9/22/09

It releases 9/22/09
My mistake. I got so flustered over the price I was confused. :confused:

My mistake. I got so flustered over the price I was confused. :confused:

I think the price is fair, it's at least consistent with other Blu on TV releases. The first season was half as many episodes and about half the price.

You sure you're not confusing Lena Headey with Connie Nielsen? AFAIK Lena Headey was not in Gladiator. But what the hey, same diff. Right?
pretty sure he meant 300.

I'll wait 'til it's at a steep discount since IMHO Season 2 was all over the place for content quality.

I never really had a problem with the acting per se (and Summer made a great Terminator), I had issues with narrative structure that seemed to lose cohesiveness and inter-connectivity (multiple inconsistencies and dangling plot points cropped up). They were seemingly shooting in the dark (Halcyon, WB, Middleton, and Friedman just riding on Jim Cameron's franchise's coattails as seemed to be the case with the poor "Terminator: Salvation" ??) and that, besides being given a paltry budget for a show calling itself "Terminator," and being thrown off their stride by the writer's strike, studio exec. tampering, and being canceled half way through and then brought back, and the hiatus was their downfall.

I love drama and rich character development as much as the next thinking man and James Cameron's "Terminator" universe was ripe for it, but they needed a bigger, healthier dose of action, suspense, tension, and Future War flashback/flashforward sequences (all requiring top notch, skillfull directing, cinematography, editing, writing... and a stunt and SFX budget that at least equaled "BSG" or "Star Trek"... even "Smallville" has more SFX and epic cinematography with tracking shots, sweeping crane shots, etc.).

Not only that, but when they decided to push aside the good John and Cameron interaction and shove Cameron mostly to window-dressing status for a lot of Season 2, and make John Connor irrelevant (hanging out with a dully written blond because the execs were afraid of a human/cyborg romance, doing interior decorating instead of helping out with missions, running away and acting completely irresponsible), and making Sarah all nutty they placed the last nails in their coffin.

When John Connor starts being written like Nick Stahl's lambasted Connor in T3, you know you have problems.

Needless to say, this was a very frustrating season for me. And the make-shift finale ending didn't do me any good either.

Come to think of it, had the show been placed on HBO with a Class A showrunner hand picked and supervised by James Cameron himself, top tier writers, really good guest directors, DP's, editors, and a budget fitting the Terminator universe and what it entails with fifteen solid 60 minute episodes per season then they really could have had something spectacular and classic. Split the budgetary expenses with another production house like Tom Hanks' Playtone or Spielberg's DreamWorks or Cameron's own Lightstorm Entertainment to help defray costs as has been done with epics like "Band of Brothers" and "John Adams" and even "Rome." As with "The Sopranos" phenom and industry-darling-status they could have maybe been able to coax Robert Patrick and even Schwarzenegger to have cameos since Cameron would be at least partially involved. I bet they could have even gotten Linda Hamilton to do at least a voice over.

Let's just say I'd buy Season 2 later on for Summer Glau's performance more than anything else (not at $50+ dollars!!). She's a wholly underutilized actress with very pleasing girl-next-door qualities (she's supposed to be quite the charmer and a class-act in real life anyway so that just adds to her appeal), a surprising acting range, and a willingness to kick some serious ass using her balletic skills. I'm very sorry she keeps getting small supporting roles in B-movie stuff (not counting the short lived "Firefly," which coulda been a contender if Fox hadn't screwed things up... again) that don't do her justice.