Hi guy's

I have an 25'X15'X15' bonus room. I will be replacing my old Mission sub. My family does mostly movies in this room. I would say 80% movies and 20% music.

My question is, should i go with Two 10" subs or One 12 or 15"... For mostly movies would i get any advantage out of Two subs instead of One big one? I know it is personal preference but what would be the ideal setup for movies?

I have Paradigm studio 100's V4 for the front, rears are the Studio 20's with CC690 center. They are powered by my Rotel 1095 amp.

Any info would be great.

Can you give a budget. That is a room large IMO and will be difficult to fill with 1 or even 2 10 inch subs I think. If you can give the max you would like to spend, then we can start to give you ideas. If you don't give an amount, you will get recommendations that you can not uses. Also, is there a size constraint. Again, unless we know that you will get a list of huge subs that you can not use.

thats a huge room. Two 10's won't do squat in there. Two 12's wouldn't be enough either, IMO. I'd do 2 15's. What is your budget?

Hi guy's

I have an 25'X15'X15' bonus room. I will be replacing my old Mission sub. My family does mostly movies in this room. I would say 80% movies and 20% music.

My question is, should i go with Two 10" subs or One 12 or 15"... For mostly movies would i get any advantage out of Two subs instead of One big one? I know it is personal preference but what would be the ideal setup for movies?

I have Paradigm studio 100's V4 for the front, rears are the Studio 40's with CC690 center. They are powered by my Rotel 1095 amp.

Any info would be great.


You can probably get by with two Ed A2-300's for about $630 delivered. For greater output, I might start by looking at a pair of SVS PB-12 NSD's. There are quite a few other choices in between the two I mentioned. Epik Tower would get the job done with one box instead of two.

You have some fairly expensive speakers. If you want something that is a top performer and looks better in one of the premium finishes like rosenut, the SVS PB-13 Ultra gets very high marks as it should for $1,700 delivered.

Hi guy's

Thanks for the replys. I wouldn't mind spending $2500 for the sub or subs for this room. The room does have vaulted ceilings, it is about 15' high. I was thinking maybe two 10's.. One for the front and one for the rear. Or maybe just one big sub for the front. Need something to fill the room.

Cheers,

Hi guy's

Thanks for the replys. I wouldn't mind spending $2500 for the sub or subs for this room. The room does have vaulted ceilings, it is about 15' high. I was thinking maybe two 10's.. One for the front and one for the rear. Or maybe just one big sub for the front. Need something to fill the room.

Cheers,

How important is it that the sub or subs have a wood finish as opposed to either flat black or possibly even a finish that is even rougher? IIRC, the finish on the Ed subs is a little rough.

If the subs will be out of sight, that may not matter. I mentioned the Ed A2-300. These are 12 inch each with a 250 watt amp. Considered one of the best values available right now at $315 each delivered.

If a wood finish is what you want, that takes you in a different direction.

For $1,800 delivered, the SVS PB-13 Ultra is one of the best and most popular subwoofers for those with large spaces who want performance that is very comparable to subs costing 3 times as much. The PB-13 in rosenut is a very pleasant, high performance, fairly good sized subs backed by excellent customer service.

If you turn up the volume pretty high at times you might lean towards the PB-13. If listening levels are moderate at most, you can do with less.

I wouldn't mind spending $2500 for the sub or subs for this room.
An Epik Conquest or a pair of Towers would work nicely. A pair of ED A7-350's or an A7-900 would work nicely. The best bang for the buck would be a massive DIY sub if you have some basic woodworking skills.

-Robert

How about 2 Hsu ULS-15's? They'd be hard to beat and in your budget.

1) I think that people are forgetting that the OP is in Canada.
2) We don't know what the capabilities of his Mission subwoofer were.
3) With a budget of $2,500 the OP may be able to score a Paradigm Servo 15.
4) He could also afford a pair of PW-2200's.

He might like one PW-2200 in the front of the room and another in the back of the room.

Who knows what the extra charges would be to get subs from American companies to him in Calgary, Alberta Canada.

I am thinking that Futureshop is selling a few models from SVS. Please correct me if I am wrong about this.

Although not in the same league as either of the Paradigms, he might actually like a pair of Velodyne DLS 5000R.

Hi guy's

Thank's for everyones input. I just picked up a Paradigm Servo 15 V2 from my dealer. I haven't set it up yet. But hopefully it should do the job.

Cheers,

it is unlikely that you will regret it... :)

That should do quite nicely. Let us know how it goes after it is setup.

Hi guy's

Thank's for everyones input. I just picked up a Paradigm Servo 15 V2 from my dealer. I haven't set it up yet. But hopefully it should do the job.

Cheers,
Great sub, but I think you'll want 2.

Craig

How about 2 Hsu ULS-15's? They'd be hard to beat and in your budget.


That is what I was going to reccomend.
If I had the Money I would buy 1 Only needed as I have a Smaller Room but Like alot of Bass Especially in movies ;)

Hi guy's

Just finished hooking up the sub and setting it up. The paradigm Servo looks great in the room with my Studio 100's. The bass is not bad, it is not strong as i would have thought. I might have to agree with Craig recommending 2 servo 15's for this room. When the funds get better i might get another one for the back..

Can someone recommend an setting with more bass out of this thing without distorting the Subwoofer?

My speakers are set to small with crossover at 60 hz for the front speakers, i have the sub crossover at 80hz with the volume +2.

The subs crossover is at bypass (150hz) with the volume at 12'o clock. The phase i left at 0.

Any info would be great,

cheers,

Hi guy's

Just finished hooking up the sub and setting it up. The paradigm Servo looks great in the room with my Studio 100's. The bass is not bad, it is not strong as i would have thought. I might have to agree with Craig recommending 2 servo 15's for this room. When the funds get better i might get another one for the back..

Can someone recommend an setting with more bass out of this thing without distorting the Subwoofer?

My speakers are set to small with crossover at 60 hz for the front speakers, i have the sub crossover at 80hz with the volume +2.

The subs crossover is at bypass (150hz) with the volume at 12'o clock. The phase i left at 0.

Any info would be great,

cheers,
What pre/pro/receiver do you have? Have you calibrated the system either with test tones and an SPL meter or with your receiver/pre/pro auto-calibration system?

My speakers are set to small with crossover at 60 hz for the front speakers,...
Great!

...i have the sub crossover at 80hz with the volume +2.
Do you mean the LFE filter? This is not a crossover. It filters *just* the LFE channel, which is pre-filtered in the recording process at 120 Hz. If you set it to 80 Hz, you're discarding the LFE signal between 80 and 120 Hz. Probably better to leave it at 120 Hz.

The subs crossover is at bypass (150hz) with the volume at 12'o clock. The phase i left at 0.
How did you decide on 12:00 for the sub level?

What speakers and subwoofer levels do you have set in your receiver/pre/pro? Also, did you input the speaker and subwoofer distances?

Craig

The settings i have for the speakers where done almost year ago. Have not played around with them at all. The setup was done by using SPL meter.

I have a Rotel RSP 1068 with Rotel RMB 1095 power amp. All the measuring distance of the speaker inputs are done in the Pre/Pro.

The LFE for the sub from the rotel Pre/Pro is set at 80hz. Speakers are set to small.

Here is the setup i have:

Front:small
Center:small
Surround:small
Sub:yes

Speaker: Front crossover 60Hz
Speaker:Center crossover 80HZ
Speaker:Surrounds crossover 80Hz
Speaker:Subwoofer Crossover 80HZ

TEST tone:

Left: +1dB
Center: 0dB
Right: +1dB
R Surround: +4dB
L Surround +4dB
Subwoofer: +2dB

Speakers are paradigm Studio 100's v4 and Studio 20's V4 with cc690 center.

With a new subwoofer in the system, you'll want to redo all those numbers, especially if you've moved any of your speakers in the meantime. Your preamp does not have an auto-setup system, so to calibrate you need an SPL meter and test tones.

Your Studio 100's are spec'd to 44 Hz. Generally the recommendation is to set the crossover 1 octave above the -3 dB point. One octave above 44 Hz would be 88 Hz. I suggest you try an 80 Hz crossover for the Studio 100's. Then all your crossovers will be the same. (If you don't like it, you can always go back.)

Other than that and recalibrating, the only thing I would change is to reset the LFE filter to 120 Hz.

Craig