http://www.tvpredictions.com/amazing081908.htm

Survivor will be HD so there should be pressure for this one to also go HD if all goes well with Survivor. While it doesn't look promising we really don't know for sure that AR won't be HD. Even widescreen SD would be an improvement like Cops did but CBS is the most reluctant network to use that.

Survivor will be HD so there should be pressure for this one to also go HD if all goes well with Survivor. While it doesn't look promising we really don't know for sure that AR won't be HD. Even widescreen SD would be an improvement like Cops did but CBS is the most reluctant network to use that.

Hope you're right but sounds pretty definitive to me.

Swanni says "CBS' The Amazing Race will begin its 13th season next month, but it will still not be produced in High-Definition."

Well if it's not this season it had better be the next. While I may have sounded a bit like an apologist in the past for shows not being in HD, time is running out for the change. Newer HD cameras are more rugged than earlier SD with the ability to record on memory cards instead of tape and costs are coming way down. Even optical discs and hard drives are starting to sound a bit dated for acquisition.

Not that big of a deal to me, i dont get locals in hd through Dish or DTV...its still one of my fav. shows regardless.

Survivor will be HD so there should be pressure for this one to also go HD if all goes well with Survivor.

I disagree simply because The Amazing Race has been losing ratings like crazy (The Family Edition is when ratings started to plummet) over the last few years which is why last season they didn't start it as a fall season show, but rather as a mid-season replacement (OTOH, this fall it is starting out as a regular show and a not a mid-season replacement).

Survivor's popularity has dipped since the beginning, but it does hold its own. The same cannot be said for AR.

It does appear that AR has jumped the shark. I still like the show. Too bad about SD.

You would think as many times as this has been discussed, statements about HD Programming bringing in bigger ratings would cease :rolleyes:

In the words of James Carville, It's the Content, Stupid....or maybe he said economy....regardless.....

Big Brother is still in SD and everyone in the Industry is AMAZED at how well its ratings have held up against the Olympics.

People continued to watch the NFL games in SD that CBS has aired and they did not take a statisical hit in the ratings.

There are over 100 local newscasts in HD and NONE have received a ratings bump from going HD. There are many local newscasts that #1 in a market that are still #1.

NBC Nightly News was #1 when it went HD, ABC passed it in SD. Fox News still has 2x to 3x the numbers of CNN in HD.

People listen to bootleg copies of their favorite groups that sound like they were recorded as part of Edison's first experiment into the recording technology.

And people would listen to Howard Stern if he was on Shortwave.

It's the content - not the flash.

That said, would I like to see it in HD? Sure, I am not foolish enough to go off about people not watching it or better ratings because of HD.

This is my favorite TV show.

I suspect that they may hire local camera men and rent local equipment, which may be a barrier to going HD.

I suspect that they may hire local camera men and rent local equipment, which may be a barrier to going HD.

I'd bet you are right. In fact, I really suspect hiring local talent and using locally-provided equipment is a requirement for obtaining visas for some countries. Of course greasing the palms of the local officials is a long-standing tradition guaranteed to make your stay just a bit more pleasant :D

You would think as many times as this has been discussed, statements about HD Programming bringing in bigger ratings would cease :rolleyes:

In the words of James Carville, It's the Content, Stupid....or maybe he said economy....regardless.....

Big Brother is still in SD and everyone in the Industry is AMAZED at how well its ratings have held up against the Olympics.

People continued to watch the NFL games in SD that CBS has aired and they did not take a statisical hit in the ratings.

There are over 100 local newscasts in HD and NONE have received a ratings bump from going HD. There are many local newscasts that #1 in a market that are still #1.

NBC Nightly News was #1 when it went HD, ABC passed it in SD. Fox News still has 2x to 3x the numbers of CNN in HD.

People listen to bootleg copies of their favorite groups that sound like they were recorded as part of Edison's first experiment into the recording technology.

And people would listen to Howard Stern if he was on Shortwave.

It's the content - not the flash.

That said, would I like to see it in HD? Sure, I am not foolish enough to go off about people not watching it or better ratings because of HD.All true but I think we're at the point in the adoption curve where HD will just be expected. Daytime TV syndication is making a big move for the new season with talk shows and entertainment magazine shows. Local news in HD is becoming more common. I doubt that the ratings will improve for these shows when they go HD, but they also don't want to be left behind.

While the analog cutoff is not exactly synonymous with HD, there is a certain association with it as the primary feed for just about all network affiliates will be HD. Networks are planning to drop their SD network feeds. 4:3 SD will start to feel so outdated much the same way that B&W did when color became common. I think networks will place greater pressure on producers to deliver a HD product, even though in the past the shows did well in 4:3 SD. At the very least they should be using widescreen SD.

Fremantle Media has been pretty good at adopting HD with shows like AI and now TPIR. Endemol seems more reluctant, especially after their disastrous "The One: Making Of A Music Star" in HD. DOND is fading a bit but still would be a good candidate for HD. I think Big Brother with all the cameras they seem to have should use widescreen SD.

With Sirius's well know sat audio quality, would Howard Stern sound much different on short wave? A bit off topic but I think the long term viability of sat radio is in question, especially with mobile streaming becoming a reality. Even Sirius sounds much better via 128k streams than the sat service. I know scaling to millions of listeners is an issue but things are improving.

I'd bet you are right. In fact, I really suspect hiring local talent and using locally-provided equipment is a requirement for obtaining visas for some countries. Of course greasing the palms of the local officials is a long-standing tradition guaranteed to make your stay just a bit more pleasant :DBut even the lower end is going HD. Newer cameras will be cheaper to maintain especially without a tape transport. Stringers will be competing as news services go HD. Even for SD services 16:9 will become expected.

I'm just glad it made it another season, I feel I'm one of the few that enjoy the Amazing Race.

I'm just glad it made it another season, I feel I'm one of the few that enjoy the Amazing Race.

+1...AR in SD is better than no AR. My favorite reality show of them all.

+1...AR in SD is better than no AR. My favorite reality show of them all.


+1 also. this is a show that my wife and I enjoy watching together. Its one of those good clean family times, competitor dram, and great scenery shots from around the world.

I'd bet you are right. In fact, I really suspect hiring local talent and using locally-provided equipment is a requirement for obtaining visas for some countries. Of course greasing the palms of the local officials is a long-standing tradition guaranteed to make your stay just a bit more pleasant :D

I spoke with one of a audio guys on an
"The Amazing Race: Family Edition" season. He told me they were hired on a flat-rate weekly pay.
This is never in the interest of the hired crew person, only in the amount the producer pays for labor as days are never 10 or 12 hours with overtime at 1.5X rate per hour afterward.
This audio guy said at one point it was 30 hours he was working straight before he was allowed to sleep on a pillow & bed.

This audio guy is based out of NYC. Most of the other camera and audio guys were old TV news cameramen and adrenaline junkies.
These types of deals offered by producers are totally irresponsible and create unsafe and unacceptable working conditions. They are not medical doctor interns doing a rotation but they are a TV crew making television.
This 'competition' created for a TV show leads to unsafe conditions and accidents for working crew.

Most out of town jobs for crew must provide accommodations and meals or per diem for meals as well as a rest period (turnaround) of approximately 10 hours.
Shows like "The Amazing Race: Family Edition" and Discovery Channel's "Deadliest Catch" do not treat the crews with acceptable working conditions.


"Deadliest Catch" Show Production
Once onboard, the camera team pretty much assumes the schedule of the fishing crew. If this means shooting for 24 hours in a row, so be it.
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/deadliest-catch.htm/printable

“It’s not like a shoot on a soundstage in Burbank,” said series producer Matt Renner, who has been one of the show’s at-sea cameraman/producers.

As Mr. Renner described it, life on board the vessels for the two-man producer/cinematographer crews that man each one is among the toughest documentary filming jobs around.
Like the fishing crew, the shooting crew works long hours; one cameraman shot footage for 50 consecutive hours.
That process starts during production, as the two-man crew on ship stays in contact with senior story producer Ethan Prochnak via satellite phone. “They riff on how to help push stories along,” said Mr. Renner. “When you’re on board, you’re at 60% at best. You’re spending all your energy trying to stand up, stay awake and shoot.
http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/06/deadliest_shoot_on_cable_tv.php


These conditions are unacceptable for TV crews. For a highly rated TV program making millions in advertising the TV crew should have decent working conditions.

I spoke with one of a audio guys on an
"The Amazing Race: Family Edition" season. He told me they were hired on a flat-rate weekly pay.
This is never in the interest of the hired crew person, only in the amount the producer pays for labor as days are never 10 or 12 hours with overtime at 1.5X rate per hour afterward.
This audio guy said at one point it was 30 hours he was working straight before he was allowed to sleep on a pillow & bed.

This audio guy is based out of NYC. Most of the other camera and audio guys were old TV news cameramen and adrenaline junkies.
These types of deals offered by producers are totally irresponsible and create unsafe and unacceptable working conditions. They are not medical doctor interns doing a rotation but they are a TV crew making television.
This 'competition' created for a TV show leads to unsafe conditions and accidents for working crew.

Most out of town jobs for crew must provide accommodations and meals or per diem for meals as well as a rest period (turnaround) of approximately 10 hours.
Shows like "The Amazing Race: Family Edition" and Discovery Channel's "Deadliest Catch" do not treat the crews with acceptable working conditions.


Sounds very similar to the set-up in Europe.

Friend of mine worked on the European leg of The Amazing Race a few years ago. Sounds similar to how they worked over here. Flat rates, and using lots of ex-News guys used to doing odd hours (>12 hours on with breaks <10 hours) and running in self-sufficient, small crew mode.

That said - they were paying reasonable-ish rates for that style of working in European terms AIUI.

It's the content - not the flash.

I agree to an extent. But if there are two shows I have equal interest in, I will choose the one in HD. So content being equal, "flash" puts it over the top.

You can't really compare TAR to Survivor. TAR is shot all over the world. Do it in HD is a lot harder than Survivor with a central base camp ie a camera breaks, there are others to take the slack.

As for the NFL games on CBS in SD, they have ratings because they are regional telecasts and have viewers that follow the teams, hence the ratings. With NFLSTSF, I NEVER watch an SD game no matter who is playing.

These conditions are unacceptable for TV crews. For a highly rated TV program making millions in advertising the TV crew should have decent working conditions.

Nobody is forcing them to take the job. Amazing Race and Deadliest Catch have been around long enough for people to know what they are getting themselves into. No sympathy here....negotiate better or don't take the job.

+1 also. this is a show that my wife and I enjoy watching together. Its one of those good clean family times, competitor dram, and great scenery shots from around the world.

I think the whole good clean family image of AR is a bit off base. Sure it usually devoid of sex and other non-family elements of other reality shows, but to call AR a good clean family show would mean that it promotes values we would like to pass onto our children, and that is where my disagreement comes in.

The producers purposely chose people who are not worldly, not just in terms of culture, but also geographic and linguistic prowess. Look at the casts of the shows and you'll see that it's not like there is a season where every team combined speaks even 2 languages and has not majorly studied geography and culture prior to coming on the show.

Looking at the entire series as a whole, I cannot see how anyone could dispute that the show glorifies our insensitivity to the world, especially in terms of the language barrier. Contestants are shown belittling others in foreign countries for not speaking english. Is that something we want to promote to children? Do we want them to be rude about the fact that they cannot speak the language of the country they are currently visiting? These kinds of incidents happen (and are shown!) each season that frankly it's embarrassing IMHO to consider this a family show.

There are other qualms, but I'm not sure if it relates to the family image. The first season of Amazing Race had contestants have to figure out where the next pit stop or station was. Now for the production, ratings, etc, they hardly ever have to figure anything out such as this and if you watch the series as a whole, you'll see many detours and roadblocks that are not challenging at all, they just consume time. When there are tasks, many of them do not require mental faculty, let alone cultural knowledge.

Finally, and this DOES relate to the family image, is that we show children these contestants say going on a leg through the Seychelles and Mauritius, and then what is the prize for the first team to arrive? A trip to Branson, MO! Wow. Come on. It's beyond ridiculous that the prize for most legs does not involve a trip to one of the countries just visited on that leg. In all my watching of AR, I've only seen it once, and that was Hong Kong. I fail to see the family value we are promoting to children when we say "Oh look, Mauritius is beautiful, but it's not as kick ass as going to Hawaii or Jamaica or a typical destination for us American vacationers." God forbid on AR that you learn some culture that you will retain, and god forbid on AR winning a prize that will give you some culture you would otherwise not receive.

But it would be nice to see this show that pretends to be wholesome in HD because it would be stunning on practically every leg.

They are not medical doctor interns doing a rotation but they are a TV crew making television.

personally i'd rather a tv audio guy made a mistake due to overwork than someone who was holding a scalpel in close proximity to my innards.

personally i'd rather a tv audio guy made a mistake due to overwork than someone who was holding a scalpel in close proximity to my innards.

that is not the point.
Shows that have high ratings on network television should provide fair working conditions to the people that make the show.

Take "Survivor" the 2000 breakout 'reality genre' show that had huge ratings that by season 2 in Africa had little assistants running around to the with cappuchinos to the crew on set [not a joke].
There were 2 crews for Survivor. One did shooting the day-to-day activities and another did the competitions only.

later the show was forced to allow the editors to unionize as they were not being compensated for their time.
Castaway Television Productions Inc., Survivor Productions LLC, Mark Burnett Productions

was able to treat the crews fairly for a highly rated network tv reality genre program. then why can't the production companies that make "The Amazing Race"?
(Worldrace Productions, Amazing Race Productions, Earth View Productions, Flashback Productions, Jerry Bruckheimer Television)

Some low rated cable network reality show like isn't going to draw much criticism or attention in the first place.
When you have network television programming drawing significant ratings and thus advertising dollars this is where the producers need to get their priorities straight.
Spending money on deciding of changing formats from standard definition to high definition when they already treat their crews terribly is a good time to bring awareness to working conditions of these shows in production.

My wife and I think AR is a great show - I am well traveled and she is somewhat traveled, we just think it's a great show.

I agree a bit that the show is getting "easier" than earlier shows, but I guess that is production values bending to the will of producers. They don't want to get teams that may be be as "worldly" or those who know more out of the competition, as those might be more attractive or popular teams. In the end, the show is about making money for those involved.

I hate it though - I doubt people would stop watching because some of the competitions was "hard", but then again, I think the current president is an idiot and he was reelected.

As for the working conditions, if random people on a internet forum are discussion the long hours of AR or Deadliest Catch, I'm sure the film crews know all about it. They know exactly what they are getting into. There just are some guys who revel in their ability to stay up for long hours and boast once they get back to dry land "I'm the guy who stayed up for 50 hours". And they get compensated for it - in their own way.

I really hope AR stays on - even if the typical American thinks, "why would you want to go to Africa/China/wherever - they eat funny food over there". It expands our world and there are probably people who say "wow - that looks like a cool place, I want to go there".

Has anyone seen this shown on Travel Channel HD? How does it look it ("upconverted"?). Do you still get the widescreen bars, even if uyou have a widescreen TV? Sorry to be a doofus!!! Thanks guys.

Has anyone seen this shown on Travel Channel HD? How does it look it ("upconverted"?). Do you still get the widescreen bars, even if uyou have a widescreen TV? Sorry to be a doofus!!! Thanks guys.

Travel channel uses zoom-o-vision like Discovery.

^^

Zoom a vision huh. Is that worse than stretch o vision? Thanks allargon.

I flipped over to the Amazing Race replay on Travel Channel HD and they were actually showing it in un-stretched 16x9. So, it looks like it's shot & produced in widescreen but unfortunately, CBS doesn't present it that way.

I flipped over to the Amazing Race replay on Travel Channel HD and they were actually showing it in un-stretched 16x9. So, it looks like it's shot & produced in widescreen but unfortunately, CBS doesn't present it that way.

That would make sense - the European stuff was being shot on XDCam 2 or 3 years ago - and I'm not sure you can buy a 4:3 only XDCam.

If you hope to sell a show like Amazing Race overseas, you'd be foolish not to consider shooting and editing 16:9 SD for sales purposes, given the large number of 16:9 SD networks globally (particularly in Europe/Aus/NZ etc.)

I flipped over to the Amazing Race replay on Travel Channel HD and they were actually showing it in un-stretched 16x9. So, it looks like it's shot & produced in widescreen but unfortunately, CBS doesn't present it that way.

CBS never does 16:9 SD; it would dilute their HD brand.

That would make sense - the European stuff was being shot on XDCam 2 or 3 years ago - and I'm not sure you can buy a 4:3 only XDCam.

If you hope to sell a show like Amazing Race overseas, you'd be foolish not to consider shooting and editing 16:9 SD for sales purposes, given the large number of 16:9 SD networks globally (particularly in Europe/Aus/NZ etc.)
Almost all the stuff in US is shot in HD or at least in widescreen. However many broadcasters in US do not show 16:9 SD correctly, as they do not want to dilute their HD brand, in their opinion. CBS, NBC Universal, ABC/ESPN with som exceptions, just to name a few. This goes for any channels that is owned by them overseas. For example SCi-Fi HD UK does the same thing as SCi-Fi HD US, they pillar box anything that is widescreen SD, and they are both owned by NBC Universal.

I do not agree with that stance, along with many othey viewers. However most people simply do not care.

Almost all the stuff in US is shot in HD or at least in widescreen. However many broadcasters in US do not show 16:9 SD correctly, as they do not want to dilute their HD brand, in their opinion. CBS, NBC Universal, ABC/ESPN with som exceptions, just to name a few. This goes for any channels that is owned by them overseas. For example SCi-Fi HD UK does the same thing as SCi-Fi HD US, they pillar box anything that is widescreen SD, and they are both owned by NBC Universal.

I do not agree with that stance, along with many othey viewers. However most people simply do not care.

It's not 16:9, instead of 12:9 (4:3) its 14:9 with black bars on both sides, plus the top and bottom of the 480 line/frames are cropped cutting off the top and bottom of the picture, so you end up with roughly 400 lines of resolution.

Entertainment Weekly magazine for March 13 week shows that the Sunday March 15 8-9PM The Amazing Race 14 is on CBS in HD.
They put a little grey HD next to the channel if the show is in HD.

I haven't looked at any HD program guides for next week...

CBS.com says SD.

http://www.cbs.com/info/schedule/index.php

CBS.com says SD.

http://www.cbs.com/info/schedule/index.php

Then again, they don't have Survivor marked as HD either..

Then again, they don't have Survivor marked as HD either..

They do not start filming a 21 day event in 4:3 SD and suddenly switch to HD after the first 7 days.

Amazing Race 14 Episode 5
The Amazing Race
Elimination Station: Episode 5...
Episode 5

http://www.tv.com/hd/?pid=IVJHt6aBNmk7lmX2gqjc5pC9XWtNxzLo&tab=all&p=1&index=ALL#
(you have to wait throught the 30 seconds of the Blackberry commercial first)
4:19 length video here.
Looks like HD to me.

that looks HD to me too.

Entertainment Weekly magazine for March 13 week shows that the Sunday March 15 8-9PM The Amazing Race 14 is on CBS in HD.
They put a little grey HD next to the channel if the show is in HD.

That's because it's broadcast on the CBS HD channel. It doesn't mean it was shot on HD cameras. I've also recorded the CBS SD and HD broadcasts and compared them. The HD broadcast has no discernible improvement in picture quality over the SD feed. No improvement in detail, clarity, color, etc. Since there's no quality advantage to the CBS HD feed, I just record the SD channel because it saves space on the DVR.

Amazing Race 14 Episode 5
The Amazing Race
Elimination Station: Episode 5...
Episode 5

.....

Looks like HD to me.

What looks HD about that? Because it's widescreen? Since when did widescreen = high definition? All I see is a widescreen image. I don't see any evidence it's actually shot with HD cameras.

HD will come to Amazing Race eventually. This year's Real World Brooklyn is the first time that show was shot and broadcast on HD. It will happen to Amazing Race eventually, if they're still around.

I flipped over to the Amazing Race replay on Travel Channel HD and they were actually showing it in un-stretched 16x9. So, it looks like it's shot & produced in widescreen but unfortunately, CBS doesn't present it that way.

I just did a comparison between the Travel Channel HD and SD airings of the show. It's true the HD doesn't stretch the show but they are cropping the top and bottom of the frame to get their 16:9 picture. So it doesn't like like the show is shot in widescreen and then cropped on the sides to get the 4:3 image. It's the other way around: shot in 4:3 and cropped on the top and bottom to get the 16:9 image.

Almost all the stuff in US is shot in HD or at least in widescreen. However many broadcasters in US do not show 16:9 SD correctly, as they do not want to dilute their HD brand, in their opinion. CBS, NBC Universal, ABC/ESPN with som exceptions, just to name a few. This goes for any channels that is owned by them overseas. For example SCi-Fi HD UK does the same thing as SCi-Fi HD US, they pillar box anything that is widescreen SD, and they are both owned by NBC Universal.

I do not agree with that stance, along with many othey viewers. However most people simply do not care.

Think SciFi UK may have just changed again.

SciFi UK SD was a 4:3 channel - so all 16:9 content broadcast on it was broadcast in 4:3 (and it could be that the masters were delivered as 4:3 conversions already)

SciFi UK HD was a 16:9 HD channel - so 16:9 HD stuff was broadcast in 16:9 HD. However SD content was broadcast as a 4:3 pillarbox upconversion - ending up with postage stamp SD 16:9 content.

HOWEVER SciFi UK SD, since SciFi UK HD launched, has now switched to 16:9 SD broadcasting - with 16:9 HD content downconverted to 16:9 SD rather than 4:3.

I've not yet seen what happens with 16:9 SD content on the SD and HD outlets - I suspect it depends on the delivery format now. I wouldn't be surprised to see 16:9 SD content upconverted to 16:9 HD (as is the case with other HD networks in the UK that show SD content like Sky1 HD, Sky Arts HD, Sky Real Lives HD, Channel Four HD etc.) - as it would be a bit perverse to force people to switch to the SD channel to watch a 16:9 SD show in 16:9, with the HD outlet showing it as a pillarbox of a letterbox.

I always thought that promos for other shows were in SD while the Amazing Race was on? They overlayed a little thing for Cold Case is Next in the bottom left corner which was HD.

What looks HD about that? Because it's widescreen? Since when did widescreen = high definition? All I see is a widescreen image.

Here is another. Just because the website doesn't show it in 1080p does not mean it is not HD. It looks like it originated on HD videocameras.
The Amazing Race
Elimination Station: Episode 7... (http://www.tv.com/hd/?pid=_mnp6SuQFuWMqMEArJm82DPfedZ1wvRh&tab=all&p=2&index=ALL)
Episode 7
Running Time (4:15)


and a diary video:
The Amazing Race
Phil's Diary: Episode 7 (http://www.tv.com/hd/?pid=EA_COgydMMyyzcvRXSQI4qipvJLwsAy9&tab=all&p=2&index=ALL)
Ep. 7
(2:09)
This camera looks like a HDV camera. While it would be a small lens and a lot of compression and a 1chip CCD it is still probably using HDV [4:2:0 25Mbps video].


both chosen from the tv.com HD gallery (http://www.tv.com/hd/?tag=nav_top%3bhdgallery)

The Amazing Race actual on air program is shot with Sony IMX cameras and they rent them all from Wexler Video if you care to call them and confirm. IT IS NOT SHOT IN 16:9 OR HD.

Wexler Video
1111 S Victory Blvd
91502 Burbank
California, USA.
Phone: 1 818 8469381
www.wexlervideo.com

These are the same cameras they used on Survivor until they went HD.

The Elimination station is not shot by the AR crew, but directly by the network, probably with a smaller HD DV cam.

HD will come to Amazing Race eventually. This year's Real World Brooklyn is the first time that show was shot and broadcast on HD. It will happen to Amazing Race eventually, if they're still around.

Real World Cancun is HD as well.

Issue isn't reality shows all converting to HD.

It's probably tougher for AR because they have to have at least what, 11 crews for the teams and maybe more for other shots?

So they're shooting budgets are already high, having to transport all those crews to different countries.

Who knows, maybe they'll suprise for AR15, set to air in September, which they would have filmed already or are filming now.

No, starts in 2 weeks.

someone better tell CBS to update their site

Season Premiere Sunday, Sept. 27 8:00pm ET/PT

someone better tell CBS to update their site
maybe he meant starts filming in 2 weeks.

Well they apparently didn't mention HD in the press release?

I've also recorded the CBS SD and HD broadcasts and compared them. The HD broadcast has no discernible improvement in picture quality over the SD feed. No improvement in detail, clarity, color, etc. Since there's no quality advantage to the CBS HD feed, I just record the SD channel because it saves space on the DVR.

My experience is different. I have Comcast cable and have recorded TAR on both the SD and HD channels (both digital). The HD channel looked better, showing fewer motion artifacts. Presumably the HD channel needs less compression because more bandwidth is available. After doing this comparison, I always recorded the HD channel.

Unfortunately I can't find anything suggesting that season 15 will be in HD, so we will probably have to endure another season in SD. I sure wish they would get with the times and upgrade to HD. The scenery is a big part of this show.

Another new season and still not in HD?? I'm sorry I'm so spoiled but I can hardly watch SD anymore. Survivor switched, why not AR ??!!!!!


bob

As far as I'm concerned, any viewer who's passionate about HD quality should send a message to The Amazing Race that they've stopped watching the show. I used to watch Extreme Makeover:Home Edition until I became tired of the fact they were still using SD cameras. I most certainly won't go back until it's on HD. Any loyal viewer of TAR should do the same thing.

Heard the show doesn't get such boffo ratings that it couldn't be hurt by a boycott or the threat of one.

Or that they would invest more into production to film in HD.

I think it was noted in this thread or some other thread that they depend on local crews and production companies, many in developing countries, which do not have HD gear.

So that's the nature of the show. I enjoy it enough to watch it even if it isn't in HD.

HD will come to Amazing Race eventually. This year's Real World Brooklyn is the first time that show was shot and broadcast on HD. It will happen to Amazing Race eventually, if they're still around.

RW Brooklyn was last year or 2 years ago and RW has been HD ever since, including the current RW: D.C. Not DD 5.1 sound though, like Survivor. :mad:

Heard the show doesn't get such boffo ratings that it couldn't be hurt by a boycott or the threat of one.

Or that they would invest more into production to film in HD.

I think it was noted in this thread or some other thread that they depend on local crews and production companies, many in developing countries, which do not have HD gear.

So that's the nature of the show. I enjoy it enough to watch it even if it isn't in HD.

Yes, it has been covered elsewhere, and that's exactly why TAR isn't in HD. Much of the world isn't HD yet. Far different than having a single fixed location where you can fly in the HD production gear. Whining about it isn't going to change that fact. :D