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Bailey151
08-20-08, 03:36 PM
and I can't find any debugging data/links. I've read most every I can find on the subject & have yet to find a solution.

The issue is that I can't seem to get the entire movie to play from a NAS media server (thus far only from WMP 11). Depending on the encoding I get anywhere from 11 - 39 minutes of a movie before it stops. I've ripped using Handbrake, DVDDecrypter, DVDShrink, PS3Video9.........(many of them).

I followed the instructions on HomeTheater Shack (link from here). Used both under 4gb DVD5 & DVD9 to create single .VOB's renamed to .mpg. Tried the same movie w/o a rename = no joy. I've used different software, still no success.

The movies stream back to a PC fine, under windows or Linux. File sizes are the same, attributes are the same..........can't find any differences.

When viewed under XMB the file size never matches the actual size & often the run time is a "-". Reported file size varies depending on rip parameters. For example an DVDShrink output of 4gb shows as 302mb where a full size (DVD9) shows 1912mb. Neither plays until the end, they only play until through the timeline shown (i.e. 11:46 for a PoC I rip). When streamed through WMP the same time line is shown but the movie just keeps right on going = good to go.

I would look to the NAS server but I've used two. One LaCIE which claimed to be PS3 compatible & one D-Link which makes no claim...........but the result has been the same for both.......which makes me think it might be something else. The D-Link threw protocol issues at first but that was a simple fix, just start the UPnP server using a sub-directory (not root).

Copying the files down to the PS3 from the NAS makes no difference, same result.

My next step is to check a copy from WMP and try MediaTomb under Linux.

Router has UPnP enabled as does the PS3..............what am I missing? It would seem to me I'm just missing a setting somewhere.

Thanks, any links to similar problems would be appreciated (I know this isn't the correct forum). Been to Doom9 etc but that's more general & my issue is PS3 specific. Been to the PS3 forums, once again I can't find anyone with the exact same issue (apparent file truncation).

Turd Furguson
08-20-08, 04:31 PM
You are not the only one who has had this issue. I had a 49 page thread started about streaming, encoding, and other stuff with the PS3. But in my link I have tried to save what I could by putting some guides up.

We need to focus on what type of media you are ripping or encoding. Are you ripping it from a disk or encoding it to another format?

Bailey151
08-21-08, 09:55 AM
Basically I've been following the steps detailed here: in this thread @ HomeTheater Shack (http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/computers-games-htpc-digital-devices/5363-ps3-video-server-media-server-preliminary-setup-tests.html)

I just made .VOB files from the discs & then renamed them to .mpg. I have used both DVDSHrink & DVDDecrypter to create a single file from the disc. I've tried a few others (i.e. HandBrake) but found them to be very tedious. I have gotten files to play using PS3Video9 - but no 5.1 track makes it pretty worthless.

I tried MediaTomb last night but all I got was "unsupported media type" = I have some setting wrong, going over that today & see what I can find out (guessing it's an issue with the mimetype).

Next step/attempt is to use DVDFab & VOB2MPG - see if that turns out any different.

If that fails I may try Fuppes................??????

TornadoTJ
08-21-08, 10:36 AM
Have you tried streaming from TVersity? It's free. I stream .VOB files from TVersity with no issues at all. I do not rename them.

beach scrub
08-21-08, 11:07 AM
same issues here with dvd shrink, vob2mpg, and WMP11 as my software tools. the movies show up as vts-01 on the xmb through my computer. Wrong times and files sizes show up. It's like the xmb only sees a portion of the whole .mpg file even though the file is intact on the PC.

Thanks for this thread. I've tried searching with google and even posted on other threads here and the shack forum with no luck. The results are how to set up streaming not how to fix what I'm seeing.

akarz
08-21-08, 11:18 AM
I use this all the time and really have no issues with streaming video (VOB based) from MediaTomb to the PS3. I do use a linux solution for this though. I usually take the DVDShrink/mplayer output and run it through ffmpeg and clean it up as it were. This resulting vob file plays perfect with ac3 intact (Not sure abt DTS)

ffmpeg -i <source_file> -acodec copy -vcodec copy <target_file>

(Sometimes with multiple audio streams the ffmpeg command may need additional flags).

You also should check your firmware version. An older firmware version did have issues with file lengths as well.

Anyway, I am happy and familiar with MediaTomb. YMMV

Bailey151
08-21-08, 11:55 AM
Have you tried streaming from TVersity? It's free. I stream .VOB files from TVersity with no issues at all. I do not rename them.
I might if it weren't strictly for my least preferred OS - winders :D

same issues here with dvd shrink, vob2mpg, and WMP11 as my software tools. the movies show up as vts-01 on the xmb through my computer. Wrong times and files sizes show up. It's like the xmb only sees a portion of the whole .mpg file even though the file is intact on the PC.

Thanks for this thread. I've tried searching with google and even posted on other threads here and the shack forum with no luck. The results are how to set up streaming not how to fix what I'm seeing.
That's my experience in a nutshell. I feel your pain, spent more hours goggling & reading than I have trying/playing movies

Another Good Link (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158357)

Anyway, I am happy and familiar with MediaTomb. YMMV
Option 1 would be the NAS, but I could accept MediaTomb. I didn't have a lot of experimenting time yesterday - I'm pretty certain it was where I put the protocol tag entry. I put it in ~/.mediatomb but now I see there's another (or a copy ) in /etc/mediatomb......................need to straighten this issue out with more time.

In any event MT showed the mimetype as video/mp2p - I thought this was okay for the PS3 (it's a straight .VOB rename to .mpg)?

Just got the ffmpeg.......using the GUI (Okay, I'm a goob) WinFF & experimenting with some small files.

EDIT - Firmware is current, 2.42 as decreed by the PSN. :D

Turd Furguson
08-22-08, 03:52 PM
A lot of my files do not even have times on them. So you are not the only one having issues with it despite playing fully.

beach scrub
08-22-08, 04:40 PM
The fix for times not showing up is using vob2mpg after using shrink. I shrink a movie to multiple vobs then use vob2mpg to make one mpg file. I used to simply rename the vob to .mpg and would get the time errors and FF/RW issues.

I've bypassed all the streaming mess by simply transfer the movies directly onto the ext HDD from my PC using firewire.

Still would be nice to fix the streaming movie issue though.