Well I was all set to get the 6020 (possibly the 151 instead) and started reading the posts about buzzing and the lack of video controls. I wonder if the people who are complaining about buzz have the sets mounted on the wall? It seems like the wall would increase the buzz noise from reflections but I'm not an acoustics guy...just speculation. For those that have the TV away from a wall on a stand do you hear it as much also? As far as the lack of controls, do you mean that there isn't any fine tuning adjustments for color, contrast, brightness, etc? I read there is Optimum mode on the 6020 which supposedly adjusts the set to the ambient light. But I would still want to be able to control my own settings.

Well I was all set to get the 6020 (possibly the 151 instead) and started reading the posts about buzzing and the lack of video controls. I wonder if the people who are complaining about buzz have the sets mounted on the wall? It seems like the wall would increase the buzz noise from reflections but I'm not an acoustics guy...just speculation. For those that have the TV away from a wall on a stand do you hear it as much also? As far as the lack of controls, do you mean that there isn't any fine tuning adjustments for color, contrast, brightness, etc? I read there is Optimum mode on the 6020 which supposedly adjusts the set to the ambient light. But I would still want to be able to control my own settings.
There are those far more learned in the ways of the 6020 than me, but from my experience with two buzzing 6020s, the sound did not emanate from the back, but rather from the front of the panel itself. In this instance neither 6020 was on a wall.

That said, a lack of controls is a bit relative. The 6020 certainly lacks ISFccc level adjustments found on displays like Panny 750, 850 or LGs PG60s. It also has less fine controls than last year's non-Elite Kuros, but you can still make basic adjustments to contrast, brightness and such. If you want the full range of adjustments on a Pioneer, they now force you to step up to the Elite.

...and the lack of video controls.
It also has less fine controls than last year's non-Elite Kuros

This is incorrect. It has the same as the 8G's, accessing the additional Controls is different.

D-Nice already has access and so do a few Professionals (more soon).

D-Nice will be Posting info for DIYers soon.

List of Professionals:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1058269


D-Nice's Post:

I think this is his first post about successfully saving some settings:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14274100#post14274100

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14300731#post14300731

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14305179#post14305179

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14292393#post14292393

Movie Mode Calibration Verification:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14290073#post14290073

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14281581#post14281581

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14281454#post14281454

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14453327#post14453327

I assume by "different" you mean "hidden and not intended for consumer access with marginally persistent values."

Heh...ok...let me rephrase.

With last years Kuro, you could access these settings from an easy to use User menu.

This year you may be able to access some of those settings by hacking your Display in a manner unsupported by the manufacturer. Further, you may be able save those settings, but may not. Finally, should you screw up this procedure, you may or may not get help from your manufacturer, may have to hire a professional to correct, or may simply be up the creek.

Better?

Personally, I'd rather pay the Elite premium than hack around in Display. You can spin it any way you want to, the 6020 has less user controls than the 8G. My original response was to let him know that, while limited, the 6020 had more controls than he thought they did. Given your sig, I assume doinking around in service menus is not something that causes hesitation, but for many it does.

The 6020 certainly lacks ISFccc level adjustments found on displays like Panny 750, 850 or LGs PG60s.Since when did Panasonic models incorporate ISFccc profiles? The 6020 has RGB High/Low controls in the SM.... same as what is available in the Panasonic 750/850 series. That LG you mention has non-correctable gamma issues.

With last years Kuro, you could access these settings from an easy to use User menu.Please provide factual information that the 8G non-Elite Kuros had RGB controls or ISFccc profiles located in the user menu. And I'm speaking of North American models not EU models.

This year you may be able to access some of those settings by hacking your Display in a manner unsupported by the manufacturer.Hacking??? RSR232C commands were available in the 8G non-Elitres. IF you have access to factual data that says otherwise, please provide it.

Further, you may be able save those settings, but may not.May?? Do you have any factual information to backup your claim?

Finally, should you screw up this procedure, you may or may not get help from your manufacturer, may have to hire a professional to correct, or may simply be up the creek.

Better?Actually worst. You access any SM and screw it up, good luck on getting the manufacturer to fix it. If yuo knew anything about the Pioneer SM, you would know that there is always backdata available for you to restore.

Personally, I'd rather pay the Elite premium than hack around in Display. You can spin it any way you want to, the 6020 has less user controls than the 8G. My original response was to let him know that, while limited, the 6020 had more controls than he thought they did. Given your sig, I assume doinking around in service menus is not something that causes hesitation, but for many it does.For the record, the 6020FD provides an overall superior picture to any of the 8G Kuros. Not everyone needs or can afford an Elite. If you want a D65 grayscale with Digital Cinema color points, the 6020 with movie mode is your best bet.

I assume by "different" you mean "hidden and not intended for consumer access with marginally persistent values."The SM isn't suppose to be access by the consumer PERIOD. Regardless of model and/or brand.