I just picked up a MGS4 PS3 Bundle, primarily for Blu-Ray playback with my bedroom HT set-up.

Now that the "new" 80GB PS3 is hitting the streets and the 160GB Uncharted Bundle coming in November, I'm considering the 160GB Bundle in place of my new MGS4 Bundle.

While I'm aware that the MGS4 Bundle has more features like backwards compatibility, 4 USB Ports, and memory slots, the 160GB is very tempting due to the chipset difference and increase in memory.

To be honest, the primary reason I'm considering the 160GB version is because the "new" 80GB/160GB systems are rumored to have the 65nm chipset (vs 90nm) that reduces heat and runs quieter than the previous PS3's. I'm extremely curious as to how much of a real world difference this will make in terms of the amount of heat it generates and how much quieter it runs.

Having just sat through my first Blu-Ray movie on the PS3, I must say the heat it generates is ridiculous for my small room. The temperature in my room increased 3 degrees compared to normal dvd or cable viewing. It did run pretty quiet, so no complaints there.

Does anyone with a newer PS3 have any real world feedback concerning the heat and noise it generates? Anyone care to offer some opinions considering this topic?

I considered posting on the Playstation website, but that place is truly a mess. There is so much misinformation on that website that it makes it very difficult to get any real help there.

65nm PS3 consumes 280watts vs 380 for 90nm

I have the 40gb ps3 with the 65nm chip, it runs silent and puts out no heat...I cant comment on the 90 as I dont have one

I'm pretty impressed with the PS3 that comes in the MGS4 bundle, whatever chipset it is. Mine runs extremely quiet and does not overheat quickly at all.
I've left mine on for days straight and still stays quiet and cool.
Of course environment and placement will also determine how cool and how quiet it stays. My '07 60GB PS3 on the other hand, doubles as a space heater.

This debate between the 65 and 90nm chips is way overblown with the PS3. The PS3 hasn't shown any signs of overheating problems in the nearly two years its been on the market. Based on that, it doesn't really matter which chipset you have on the PS3. Both perform extremely well.

As a note, I have two PS3's, one from launch and another from the MGS4 lot. Both perform without any problems and are whisper quiet even when playing discs.

This debate between the 65 and 90nm chips is way overblown with the PS3. The PS3 hasn't shown any signs of overheating problems in the nearly two years its been on the market. Based on that, it doesn't really matter which chipset you have on the PS3. Both perform extremely well.

As a note, I have two PS3's, one from launch and another from the MGS4 lot. Both perform without any problems and are whisper quiet even when playing discs.

The op didnt mention overheating. He said his room got hot. My 20gb puts out a ton of heat, and my entertainment center is open in the back. Also its pretty loud too. I can hear it over my projector by far. I have my buddies 80gb ps3 here and it runs alot quieter. I didnt check the temp though.

I had a 65nm 40gig, currently on a MGS4 80gig model. The 80gig is a little louder and a little warmer.

The op didnt mention overheating. He said his room got hot. My 20gb puts out a ton of heat, and my entertainment center is open in the back. Also its pretty loud too. I can hear it over my projector by far. I have my buddies 80gb ps3 here and it runs alot quieter. I didnt check the temp though.

I guess my point is that ANY piece of electronic equipment will run hot, so as long as the thing doesn't overheat then what's the problem? Room temperature can be affected by A LOT of different things such as time of day, sun exposure on that room, etc. I also measure temperature in my rooms with PS3's and I've never noticed a large temperature increase just from using the PS3.

Sorry about your 20GB noise. I have no problems with my PS3's noise level as both are very quiet. If you want to hear loud, play a game on the 360.

I had a 65nm 40gig, currently on a MGS4 80gig model. The 80gig is a little louder and a little warmer.

This would be my expectation. You're not going to get a large difference just by changing the chipset size.

Compared to the amount of heat radiating off of my Samsung LNT4671 TV, the PS3 doesn't make any heat. When I walk by the TV, it's like walking by a heat panel. It's a strange sensation.

Most people turn it off when not in use.

When you are using it, you are using a tv too, uses twice the power.

All I care about is that it has chip in it, who cares what kind. :)

All I care about is that it has chip in it, who cares what kind. :)

I prefer a Sunchip.

I prefer a Sunchip.

Me too. Preferably garden salsa or french onion.

Havest Cheddar ftw :D

Didn't we already kill this topic 8 pages ago?

From http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=902935

80GB PS3 Core -

* XMB idle - 111.9 watts
* DVD playback - 126.0 watts
* Game (MGS4) - 130.0 watts

40GB PS3 Core -

* XMB idle - 125.8 watts
* DVD playback - 141.2 watts
* Game (MGS4) - 155.2 watts

80GB PS3 MGS4 Bundle -

* XMB idle - 180 watts
* Bluray Playback - 182 watts
* DVD playback - 197 watts
* Game (MGS4) - 200 watts

Stats

80GB Core vs. 40GB Core

* XMB idle - 11% Lower
* DVD playback - 10.8% Lower
* Game (MGS4) - 16.2% Lower

80GB Core vs. 80GB MGS4 Bundle

* XMB idle - 37.8% Lower
* DVD playback - 36% Lower
* Game (MGS4) - 35% Lower

I have the new 80 and it is totally silent. After playing yesterday for around 3 1/2 hours I never heard the fan kick in and it never got hot, my previous 60 would get a little loud and hot after about 30 mins. or so.

Joystiq's SKU comparison says that the MGS4 80GB SKU (CECHE01) has a 65nm cell if built in 2008, but 90nm cell if built in 2007. Now I'm really confused.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/26/tabulator-comparing-the-playstation-3-skus/

I hope this is true, since I have the MGS4 PS3 built in May 2008. Mine runs pretty quiet, so no complaints either way.

From http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=902935

80GB PS3 Core -

* XMB idle - 111.9 watts
* DVD playback - 126.0 watts
* Game (MGS4) - 130.0 watts

40GB PS3 Core -

* XMB idle - 125.8 watts
* DVD playback - 141.2 watts
* Game (MGS4) - 155.2 watts

80GB PS3 MGS4 Bundle -

* XMB idle - 180 watts
* Bluray Playback - 182 watts
* DVD playback - 197 watts
* Game (MGS4) - 200 watts

Stats

80GB Core vs. 40GB Core

* XMB idle - 11% Lower
* DVD playback - 10.8% Lower
* Game (MGS4) - 16.2% Lower

80GB Core vs. 80GB MGS4 Bundle

* XMB idle - 37.8% Lower
* DVD playback - 36% Lower
* Game (MGS4) - 35% Lower

Great info, but can this also be in more layman-friendly terms? What I mean is, the new 80gb plays MGS4 at 130 watts compared to 200 watts in my slightly older 80gb. Is that actually a very large difference or is 70 watts small potatoes in terms of energy consumption and electricity bills?

Great info, but can this also be in more layman-friendly terms? What I mean is, the new 80gb plays MGS4 at 130 watts compared to 200 watts in my slightly older 80gb. Is that actually a very large difference or is 70 watts small potatoes in terms of energy consumption and electricity bills?

Well you know about 60w and 100w incandescent light bulbs right? Think of the difference as leaving one light on while you play. The difference in price depends on how much it is on and when.

Great info, but can this also be in more layman-friendly terms? What I mean is, the new 80gb plays MGS4 at 130 watts compared to 200 watts in my slightly older 80gb. Is that actually a very large difference or is 70 watts small potatoes in terms of energy consumption and electricity bills?

Let us estimate on the high side and say you are paying 20 cents per kwh. A kwh is one hour of 1000W.

So assuming a 200W model, you are paying 4 cents per hour to game on a PS3.

A 130W model, you are paying about 2.7 cents per hour. Something this small is almost irrelevant compared to seasonal fluctuations causing more A/C use etc.

Joystiq's SKU comparison says that the MGS4 80GB SKU (CECHE01) has a 65nm cell if built in 2008, but 90nm cell if built in 2007. Now I'm really confused.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/26/tabulator-comparing-the-playstation-3-skus/

I hope this is true, since I have the MGS4 PS3 built in May 2008. Mine runs pretty quiet, so no complaints either way.

I can't say with 100% certainty, but I doubt it. I had the MGS4 system (which had to be replaced after 2 weeks) built in April 2008, and Sony replaced it with a unit from 2007. Sony could have screwed me over, yes, but I think the units really are the same. I didn't notice any difference in heat output or noise between the two systems either way.