View Full Version : Mac Pro PCIe HDTV Card?


enb141
08-22-08, 06:58 PM
Guys I would like to know if there's a PCIe HDTV tuner for mac pros?

chefklc
08-23-08, 09:52 AM
If you mean like these:

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr2250.html

http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/products/FusionHDTV7RTGold.aspx

I don't think so, none that would work in Leopard anyway.

Going way back, I think some folks managed to record ATSC with DViCO PCI cards in their PowerMacs using some open source drivers, that was running Panther and/or Tiger, though.

In 2004, when El Gato released the firewire EyeTV 500, most here went with that route, especially after full QAM support was added in January 2005, which was right about the time the first G4 Mac mini was announced.

You might want to poke around the main Windows HTPC forum to see what kind of support there is for these PCIe cards in myth, sage, windows/mce, etc.

enb141
08-23-08, 01:50 PM
If you mean like these:

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr2250.html

http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/products/FusionHDTV7RTGold.aspx

I don't think so, none that would work in Leopard anyway.

Going way back, I think some folks managed to record ATSC with DViCO PCI cards in their PowerMacs using some open source drivers, that was running Panther and/or Tiger, though.

In 2004, when El Gato released the firewire EyeTV 500, most here went with that route, especially after full QAM support was added in January 2005, which was right about the time the first G4 Mac mini was announced.

You might want to poke around the main Windows HTPC forum to see what kind of support there is for these PCIe cards in myth, sage, windows/mce, etc.

Well yes I was talking abou those

http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/products/HDTV7DualExpress.aspx

and even the ATI HDTV Wonder PCIe

So no open source drivers for none of those PCI express cards?

chefklc
08-23-08, 02:37 PM
So no open source drivers for none of those PCI express cards

As I said, I think you need to spend some time in other forums--most of us here don't have Macs with PCIe slots--we record ATSC and QAM over firewire and USB and ethernet (the HD Homerun) instead, with software like EyeTV and FireRecord that works pretty effortlessly in Leopard.

You'll probably have to Google a bit to find out what might be possible with these PCIe tuners in a virtual environment. As far as freeware and drivers, here's some old stuff which I had bookmarked a long time ago:

http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/03/29/hdtv.html?page=1

http://www.defyne.org/dvb/driver.html

rezzy
08-23-08, 03:15 PM
I'm still using my old B&W G3 as an OTA-HD recorder with the PCI Dvico Fusion Card & Defyne's iTele. Works well....machine is too slow to do any edits, but it can actually play back 720p recorded streams (drops a few frames here and there). 1080i chokes it up though. iTele will supposedly do timed recordings, but I haven't delved that far into it. It's not very slick BTW, but it does work (dragged my feet and never got a EyeTV 500).

The same 1080i streams can be played (via NicePlayer or Mplayer) and edited on my faster G4 iMac or MacBook Pro.

enb141
08-25-08, 01:26 PM
As I said, I think you need to spend some time in other forums--most of us here don't have Macs with PCIe slots--we record ATSC and QAM over firewire and USB and ethernet (the HD Homerun) instead, with software like EyeTV and FireRecord that works pretty effortlessly in Leopard.

You'll probably have to Google a bit to find out what might be possible with these PCIe tuners in a virtual environment. As far as freeware and drivers, here's some old stuff which I had bookmarked a long time ago:

http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/03/29/hdtv.html?page=1

http://www.defyne.org/dvb/driver.html


I see so what about networking HDTV do I need a PCIe + windows and then send that information over network right?

How to read more about this and does this works with frontrow and MCE?

chefklc
08-25-08, 04:55 PM
I'm not exactly sure what you just asked, but, my recommendation for your Mac Pro is not get a PCIe tuner at all--not mess with Linux or Windows or MCE--and get an HD Homerun instead. Since it connects via ethernet, just plug it into your home network and it'll get assigned an address. And that way you can stay within OS X, using Front Row and EyeTV for recording and playback.

enb141
08-25-08, 06:42 PM
I'm not exactly sure what you just asked, but, my recommendation for your Mac Pro is not get a PCIe tuner at all--not mess with Linux or Windows or MCE--and get an HD Homerun instead. Since it connects via ethernet, just plug it into your home network and it'll get assigned an address. And that way you can stay within OS X, using Front Row and EyeTV for recording and playback.

I thought Homerun was a software for HDTV over LAN, so basically I want to watch HDTV in windows and Mac if possible but it this is not posible yet I think I'll stay with windows for now.

By the way I hate those external devices like Cable Card and the future HDTV device which will be USB or Ethernet (what a shame not PCIe).

chefklc
08-25-08, 06:57 PM
Well, if you're planning to "stay" with Windows you're in the wrong forum.

That said, read up on HD Homerun a little better--it's a networked hardware device by SiliconDust--somewhat ugly, but because it connects over ethernet it can be tucked out of sight--and it works with a bunch of different software and front ends on different platforms. EyeTV recordings aren't proprietary--something captured by "EyeTV" software on a Mac running OS X can be played back by VLC, for instance, on a Windows PC with no problem.

enb141
08-28-08, 07:48 PM
Thanks for your comments so PCIe for macs is a no way ok I got it.

bommai
08-29-08, 11:56 AM
HDHomeRun is the way to go. I have one and I love it. I just hang it on the network and computer can use it. It has two tuners. It works with Linux, MCE, EyeTV, etc. It does not need proprietary drivers. UDP based. So, you can just write your own software for it if you want. PCIe etc are not even appropriate for this type of device. Let us say you have a laptop in the bedroom and want to watch a show. Just connect your favorite media streamer and connect to the HDHomeRun! It is a whole home DVR!

mym6
08-29-08, 04:26 PM
Another vote for HDHomerun, love mine. It's everything everyone is saying.