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DigaDo
08-23-08, 05:27 PM
ClearToLand has suggested a Panasonic DVD Recorder Information sticky thread, a very good idea. I would be pleased to participate in this effort but it should be coordinated by someone with wide-ranging Panasonic experience. I am not that person.

My contributions to this Forum have been an outgrowth of my particular interest and experience.

I set out to build a home-recorded time-shifting archive of early talkies (including movies, shorts and early sound cartoons) up to and including the film noir era. I started back in the 1980s with VHS recording from The Nostalgia Channel and AMC. Following the demise of the original AMC it became necessary to subscribe to a premium tier of service in order to get TCM.

Great strides for my time-shifted archive were made in September 2005 with the purchase of my first Panasonic DMR-ES30V DVD combo recorder. That was the beginning of my time-shifted archive in the DVD format, a project that continues to this day.

In around December 2006 I embarked on an extensive project dubbing to DVD selected portions of my near twenty-year accumulation of home-recorded time-shifted videotapes. At the same time I continued to time-shift material from TCM. I have recently watched, for the first time, some material originally shown more than twenty years ago on The Nostalgia Channel and AMC.

I have purchased several ES series Panasonics, currently numbering (2) DMR-ES30V, (1) DMR-ES40V, (4) DMR-ES35V, (4) DMR-ES15 models and (2) DMR-ES35V “parts machines.” (My daughter was so impressed with my original DMR-ES30V model that she bought two of that model for herself.)

Within any group of good products there will usually be a bad one and that is certainly the DMR-ES40V, a bug-laden 2005 model with several design flaws. Those bugs and design flaws are not found in my other 2005 models or in my 2006 models. (Panasonic reintroduced the DMR-ES40V bugs and design flaws into their 2007 EZ series. Current threads indicate that the bugs and design flaws were carried over into the 2008 models as well.)

Until just recently I have (exclusively) used Panasonic ES and EZ series DVD recorders and combo recorders in my projects. I find most of my ES recorders are well suited for building my personal time-shifted archive. While I own and use two EZ series Panasonics (both are DMR-EZ17 models) and a Philips DVDR3575H/37B DVD/hard drive recorder, these machines are currently serving in secondary roles while the ES series Panasonics continue to be the “workhorses.”

I see that stand-alone DVD recorders, combo recorders and hard drive recorders are rapidly going the way of the Edsel, DeSoto, Plymouth and Oldsmobile. Most consumers are content to time-shift with satellite or cable company DVRs.

The outstanding ES series Panasonics are ending up in landfills for want of a hub/spindle cleaning or replacement of a power supply capacitor. The buggy EZ series Panasonics will soon follow the ES machines and they too, will vanish from the marketplace. Philips has already announced the demise of their hard drive recorders.

I understand that many may not find the time or determination, nor be willing to spend a few dollars to keep the old Panasonic ES workhorses going. There are a few that learn to do the servicing work, and others of us are also repairing, building or rebuilding machines with parts from other machines (sometimes purchased for just a few dollars) when those machines seemed to have reached the end of their lives.

Do we need to form an “underground movement” to search thrift stores (even monitoring landfills) for ES machines to salvage? I believe that we must lest the ES series, even the highly-revered hard drive models, will be gone very soon.

While I have never owned a Panasonic hard drive recorder I should have set aside funds for that purpose back in 2006/2007. But I was so involved in “the dubbing project” (that sometimes kept up to seven of my standard ES recorders running up to eighteen hours a day) that I wasn’t aware at the time that the Panasonic hard drive models were disappearing from the marketplace.

We who keep the ES series machines functional need to continue encouraging one another (especially hard drive model owners) not to give up but make a special effort to keep these models viable. (For the most part hard drive Panasonics use many of the same parts as the standard machines from the same model year.)

My experience is of a very limited sort. Even with around 23,000 hours of DVD recording experience over the last three years, I know very little of some features found on my thirteen Panasonic DVD recorders. With enough time to study the Operating Instructions and read the many valuable posts in this Forum, I might learn to use and appreciate more of those features.

After six months as a Philips owner I have hardly begun to familiarize myself with the Philips 3575. I am in awe of Wajo’s efforts on behalf of Philips 3575/3576 owners.

There is a real need for a Panasonic DVD Recorder Information sticky thread that will draw together in a single place coordinated information for the Panasonic ES/EZ series recorders. Such a thread would be of real benefit to Panasonic owners.

By the way, I chose my DigaDo identity because Panasonic DVD recorders bearing the “DIGA” name “do” work well for me, hence I am DigaDo.

Speedskater
08-24-08, 11:43 AM
Thanks for posting all this Panasonic repair information.

DigaDo
09-01-08, 03:48 PM
Am I a “Panasonic Fanatic?” The attached photos should answer that question.

The first photo shows the main part of my home office set-up. This is currently the secondary recording center. Pictured are two DMR-ES17 models, a DMR-ES35V model, a Toshiba M745 VCR and a Philips DVDR3575H/37B (all interconnected for various purposes). There is a Zenith DTT900 with a Paper Clip Antenna (barely) seen on top of an HP 3 in 1 printer (the Zenith feeds input 2 on the DMR-ES35V), two Dell Dimension XP MCE 2005 computers, a Dynex LCD 19" HD TV and a RCA 13" CRT TV (that receives a RF signal modulated or unmodulated from the DMR-ES35V), a Pelican System Selector PL970 for switching (stack) feeds to the Dynex (with the Dynex also directly connected to cable coax and a component feed from the Philips), an A/B switch (barely seen) just to the left of the DMR-ES35 (feeding a direct cable coax or converter box feed RF feed to the Philips and from the Philips’ RF output to the upper DMR-EZ17, thus enabling a total of four recorders in two rooms to be connected to a Motorola cable box for extended tandem recording strategies), an Aiwa three speed turntable and 10" cooling fan (not visible behind the main Dell monitor), a Technics AV Receiver and two DMR-ES35V parts machines (not visible) and a 6” cooling fan and a goose-neck light. Not in view is the home-recorded time-shifted or dubbed DVD archive, now approaching 4,000 DVDs in book-type albums occupying about eight feet of shelf space.

The second photo shows my bedroom set-up. This is currently the primary recording center. There is a Westinghouse HD "ready" TV, a Centronics ZAT501A HD (OTA) tuner, a DMR-ES15; a DMR-ES30V (currently approaching 4,300 recording hours since new) and a Motorola DCT700 converter box. The ES15 RF output feeds one side of the A/B switch in the home office. Not pictured are two indoor antennas, a Zenith DTT901 and a 13" RCA CRT TV, or the semi-retired Toshiba M781 VCR residing in one of many Panasonic boxes in a closet.

The third photo shows the DMR-ES40V (a 2005 model with the same bugs and design flaws found on 2007 and newer Panasonics). This DMR-ES40V sat in a closet for the better part of two years until it was set-up as the VHS/DVD player on the family TV. The photo also shows the Insignia 37" HD TV and a Motorola HD cable box.

The fourth photo shows my Panasonics not currently in use. From the top are three DMR-ES15 models that need some attention, one ES15 has recorded well for around 3,000 hours but it will no longer finalize it's own discs (other Panasonics will finalize those discs), one ES15 is "dead" and the other ES gives the U61 and U88 errors; a fully functional DMR-ES30V model and three fully functional DMR-ES35V models. These four combo recorders, averaging more than 3,000 recording hours per machine, are set aside for standby use. The stickers seen at the right side of the machines indicate the operating/remote code set on that machine.

Our daughter (whose photo sits atop the main stack in my home office) resides in the basement. She was so impressed with my first DMR-ES30V that she purchased two of that model for her own use. Her DMR-ES30V models are not pictured.

DigaDo
09-03-08, 12:35 AM
Am I a “Panasonic Fanatic?” The attached photos should answer that question . . .

The fourth photo shows my Panasonics not currently in use. From the top are three DMR-ES15 models that need some attention . . . one ES15 is "dead" and the other ES gives the U61 and U88 errors . . .

Last evening I gave some attention to two of these three ES15 models. The "error" machine no longer reported error codes but the DVD drive clunked loudly and repeatedly, reporting "no read" with or without an inserted disc. From the "dead" machine a good DVD drive was swapped in to replace the clunking drive. The "dead" machine's better front panel and top cover were also swapped in. The ES15 that received the functional DVD drive seems to be functioning as normal. This machine happens to have a non-functional tuner, so it is limited to "line in" recording. The RF pass through feature still functions. This machine had its last firmware update in 12/07. From the Panasonic Support website I downloaded the most recent firmware update but I have not run it as it has been my practice not to run firmware updates unless a machine exhibits operational or performance issues. This machine was placed in its original box and set aside for standby service and later rotation into daily use.

The "dead" ES15 has been set aside as a parts machine.

The photo shows an ES15 DVD drive with a ribbon cable that had (earlier) been trimmed back to remove a damaged contact. The "TR" notation on the drive lid was placed there to indicate which ribbon was trimmed.

DigaDo
09-05-08, 03:39 PM
To the question "How does one connect a DVD recorder?" one might give an answer of a thousand words or more. But "a picture is worth a thousand words." It's as simple as this:

ti-triodes
09-05-08, 07:43 PM
To the question "How does one connect a DVD recorder?" one might give an answer of a thousand words or more. But "a picture is worth a thousand words." It's as simple as this:


So help me, I love the smell of patch cables in the morning!:D

ClearToLand
04-02-10, 09:51 PM
ClearToLand has suggested a Panasonic DVD Recorder Information sticky thread, a very good idea. I would be pleased to participate in this effort but it should be coordinated by someone with wide-ranging Panasonic experience. I am not that person...
YES you are!!!http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/icons/icon14.gif

Just review the 'Panasonic Technical Posts' for the past ~19 months (aka 575 days per AVS) and see!

I re-extend my original offer to help, if necessary. ;)

DigaDo's Panasonic DVDR Tips: (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1059028&highlight=panasonic+digado)

If anyone has any new 'Panasonic Technical' threads to add to my original 08/21/08 list, please post the LINKs here and I'll add them.

Thanks!

joed32
04-03-10, 08:28 AM
To the question "How does one connect a DVD recorder?" one might give an answer of a thousand words or more. But "a picture is worth a thousand words." It's as simple as this:

That looks familiar.

DigaDo
04-03-10, 12:31 PM
YES you are!!!http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/icons/icon14.gif

Just review the 'Panasonic Technical Posts' for the past ~19 months (aka 575 days per AVS) and see!

I re-extend my original offer to help, if necessary. ;)

DigaDo's Panasonic DVDR Tips: (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1059028&highlight=panasonic+digado)

If anyone has any new 'Panasonic Technical' threads to add to my original 08/21/08 list, please post the LINKs here and I'll add them.

Thanks!

Golly, since those olden days I've added several more Pannys, Magnavox and Philips recorders. Those old photos even show a VCR in the home office stack. I've updated equipment descriptions and photos serveral times since August 2008. In my most recent descriptions/photos one may observe that my late model EZ series recorders are being junked or being removed from service while the older heavily used "workhorse" ES series "standby" recorders are being brought out of retirement and returned to daily use. I'm attaching some more recent photos. The 2007 DMR-EZ17 shown in the bedroom stack has since been replaced with a 2006 DMR-ES35V.

This thread includes some helpful Panny information:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1082922

It's now time for breakfast. More later...