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dieselgg 08-27-08, 03:16 PM Has anyone heard of any updates regarding a Bluray attachment to be made available for the XBox360? Is this dead in the water?
Looking to pick up the new 80 gig PS3. First use would be for movies (either off of disc or HD), second for games.
If there was a Bluray attachment made available, I can only assume the XBox 360 would be the better choice due to its video streaming capability and choice of games.
Has anyone heard of any updates regarding a Bluray attachment to be made available for the XBox360? Is this dead in the water?
Looking to pick up the new 80 gig PS3. First use would be for movies (either off of disc or HD), second for games.
If there was a Bluray attachment made available, I can only assume the XBox 360 would be the better choice due to its video streaming capability and choice of games.
oh yeah, its coming next week. wait for it at midnight at your local game store
esaleris 08-27-08, 03:23 PM I think it's an interesting topic deserving of more than a sarcastic swipe. There was lots of talk about it earlier this year, but I haven't heard anything about it in a while.
mpkelley20 08-27-08, 03:30 PM You can do video streaming very easily on a PS3 as well either through your home PC (used as a media server) or even by downloading movies from the PSN store (both standard and HD movies). Maybe not as grand as the Netflix/Xbox deal but the PS3 can do everything the X-Box can (and more when you factor in Blu-Ray). It would be nice for Microsoft to add blu-ray but I don't see them integrating technology from their competitor anytime soon.
dieselgg 08-27-08, 03:49 PM oh yeah, its coming next week. wait for it at midnight at your local game store
The new 80 gig PS3 is already on stores. Not a gamer and I don't wait in lines.
dieselgg 08-27-08, 03:51 PM You can do video streaming very easily on a PS3 as well either through your home PC (used as a media server) or even by downloading movies from the PSN store (both standard and HD movies). Maybe not as grand as the Netflix/Xbox deal but the PS3 can do everything the X-Box can (and more when you factor in Blu-Ray). It would be nice for Microsoft to add blu-ray but I don't see them integrating technology from their competitor anytime soon.
I am better off installing Yellow dog linux. I would be playing 4+gig HD movies and the PS3 won't recognize file sizes that large.
fjtorres 08-27-08, 04:31 PM There was lots of talk about it earlier this year, but I haven't heard anything about it in a while.
All wishful thinking.
And misguided.
It makes zero sense.
The 360 is by now an established, mature product heading into its fourth holiday season. It is what it is. What it was intended to be.
More importantly, MS is following a gameplan that calls for *reducing* manufacturing costs to force Sony into a price war or conceding the high-volume low-end of the HD Gaming market. With that clearly stated, with the real challenge coming from Nintendo's cut-rate Wii, why in the name of the gaming gods would MS be wasting time, effort, or midshare on a product that would be DOA on arrival?
Any BD-Add-on would have to sell for $200 and even added to an Arcade would increase total cost to $400. But you can get standalone BD players for $300. Probably $200 by next summer.
So why is MS going to engineer and market a me-too add-on that will sell in limited numbers for maybe 6-9 months?
It makes no economic or competitive sense whatsoever.
MS doesn't need to follow the lead of the third-place player, they need to go after the volume leader while its close enough to catch. That means going after Nintendo, not Sony.
As pointed out, if you want a BD player there are several nice standalone ones from Panasonic, Samsung, and even Sony. In fact, one of Sony's players even plays a few half-decent games. ;)
If you can't afford $300, wait 6-9 months, they'll get to $199 sometime next year.
What MS *is* doing is what it needed to do back in May; cutting prices.
What MS needs is an Arcade at $199.
And that is exactly what they're doing.
(Unless somebody out there is really really really good at photoshopping.)
Oh, and they're doing one other thing; they're beefing up Video marketplace.
Anybody out there notice how MS is steadily boosting their movie catalog? They've added almost 50% this year and of late are adding about 20 per week to the total size of the catalog; they should soon blow past 600 movies total and well past 300 HD releases. When you look at the profit they'd make on a BD attachment vs the money they make off Movie DLs its a no-brainer.
The old HD-DVD drive was a tactical accessory designed to slow adoption of BD by prolonging the Blue Laser war until they got all the studios lined up behind the Video Marketplace, which is the strategic part of the 360 media campaign. Woulda been nice if HD DVD had won or at least prolonged the war another year but it served it purpose well enough; it kept BD at bay while MS built up VM. And VM is now fully mature and well-enough stocked that it leads pretty much everybody in the war for the living room.
Why undercut your own growing product by supporting your competitors' product? Again, BD on 360 does not make sense for MS.
Time to move on, children.:cool:
mpkelley20 08-27-08, 04:37 PM I am better off installing Yellow dog linux. I would be playing 4+gig HD movies and the PS3 won't recognize file sizes that large.
Yup, I see. Maybe a future firmware update will fix that? Who knows!
BigBoss22 08-27-08, 04:43 PM No Microsoft shot this one down a long time ago.
No Microsoft shot this one down a long time ago.
Several times.
BD won't come to the 360. I never liked the add on, would rather want a standalone (which I have). Any talk has always been media speculation, fanboy hype, etc. Like one of the gents above said, MS has shot this idea down and wanted their VM more than and HDM.
superklye 08-27-08, 07:10 PM DOA on arrival?
Not to nitpick, but you know the OA in DOA = On Arrival, right?
Davinleeds 08-27-08, 07:32 PM It's one in a million.
So, you're telling me I have a chance...
HeadRusch 08-27-08, 10:48 PM Sylvania already has a $260 BD set top deck on store shelves....and its barely September.
Expect $199 BD players for xmas from 3rd tier brands, and $300 players from bigger brand names.
The new 80 gig PS3 is already on stores. Not a gamer and I don't wait in lines.
sarcasm.
srsly, sony will always support the ps3 as a blu-ray player. always giving it updates for "compatibility issues". its their flagship blu-ray player. all other players in the store are missing one or two or three things that the PS3 always gets.
the online updates (search google for "live free or die hard blu-ray problems, sony updated the ps3 but the others where up to each players manufacturer, it didnt work so hot), the online features for each blu-ray (whenever they come out), the online connection (a network connection!).
sony beats its chest with its "10 year lifecycle plan" for the PS3 and they will not stop supporting it.
if youre looking at a bare-bones blu-ray player, that will most likely not ever be updated or supported once sold, then headrusch mentions the sylvania player. cheaper chinese clones will be coming soon. maybe this holiday (doubt it), but most likely after this holiday season. I think your money will be better spent on a ps3 for the updates.
if however the 400 price tag of the ps3 doesnt float your boat (mines doesnt) then simply wait. whats another year? surely sometime next year we should see a price drop (magic 8 ball time) and if that happens you have 2 years worth of blu-ray movies at a cheaper price!:D
btw i dont have one yet. still bitter bout the whole hd dvd thing ;)
dieselgg 08-28-08, 03:29 PM I thought the Sony BDP-S550 would be there new flagship BD player?
It has a lot of bells and whistles that the PS3 does not. From what I have read, if you only watch movies, this is the BD player to get - apparently it does 'everything'.
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The Sony BDP-S550 features an Ethernet port for easy firmware upgrading along with DB-Live for access to internet based interactive features and BonusView (picture in picture support) support for some new blu-ray movies. 1GB of storage is featured on the Sony BDPS550 along with an external port for extra local storage via optional flash based memory.
The highest HD format of 1080p / 60p and 24p True Cinema outputs are supported and upscaling of standard DVD to 1080p gets the very best out of existing DVDs.
Excellent audio support on the Sony BDP-S550 is provided by 7.1 channel Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS HD High Resolution Audio, Master Audio decoding and bit stream output, along with 7.1 channel analog audio output.
The Sony BDP-S550 also supports AVCHD discs, and x.v.Color (xvYCC, DeepColor, HDMI 1.3) for improved color space reproduction and more vivid natural colors. BD-R/RE (BDMV and BDAV modes), DVD+R/+RW, DVD-R/-RW , CDs and JPEG formats and media are all supported.
I thought the Sony BDP-S550 would be there new flagship BD player?
It has a lot of bells and whistles that the PS3 does not. From what I have read, if you only watch movies, this is the BD player to get - apparently it does 'everything'.
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The Sony BDP-S550 features an Ethernet port for easy firmware upgrading along with DB-Live for access to internet based interactive features and BonusView (picture in picture support) support for some new blu-ray movies. 1GB of storage is featured on the Sony BDPS550 along with an external port for extra local storage via optional flash based memory.
The highest HD format of 1080p / 60p and 24p True Cinema outputs are supported and upscaling of standard DVD to 1080p gets the very best out of existing DVDs.
Excellent audio support on the Sony BDP-S550 is provided by 7.1 channel Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS HD High Resolution Audio, Master Audio decoding and bit stream output, along with 7.1 channel analog audio output.
The Sony BDP-S550 also supports AVCHD discs, and x.v.Color (xvYCC, DeepColor, HDMI 1.3) for improved color space reproduction and more vivid natural colors. BD-R/RE (BDMV and BDAV modes), DVD+R/+RW, DVD-R/-RW , CDs and JPEG formats and media are all supported.
What in that list is missing from the PS3? AVCHD might be the only thing, I have no idea what that is.
dieselgg 08-28-08, 03:56 PM AVCHD is the HD format used in HD camcorders.
HeadRusch 08-28-08, 04:03 PM Slight Correction: AVCHD is one of the HD formats used in some HD Camcorders.
Just get the PS3. More value there than a standalone (games, wifi) and they are always upgrading the firmware. If its missing a feature today, there's a chance it be in an update around the corner.
Leadsalad 08-28-08, 04:29 PM Bitstream output, but in reality, that's just a minor complaint by people who want to see DTS-DH and Dolby TRUEHD light up on their receiver instead of PCM-in. Makes no sound difference, and the PS3 is still the player to beat (I have one, and some PS3 titles are decent along with all the PS2 rpgs I've missed).
KernalROM 08-28-08, 09:55 PM MS stated that the future isn't in physical media...
Their vision is all downloadable content... With lots of DRM
Bryan
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