Great news for all OLED Fans!
Samsung has revealed it will release 14.1 inch OLED TVs at CES 2009 in a bid to keep Sony from running away with the nascent market.

Young Joong Noh, developer of OLED parts at Samsung, confirmed to TechRadar the sets will be coming next year, with a similar £1,000 plus price tag.

Source:http://www.oled-display.net/samsung-want-to-introduce-14-inch-hd-oled-panels-at-ces-2009

Yawn.

Wonderful post, Gary. Very informative...

I think this is good, it'll be interesting to see how things pick up for OLED, overall. I'd personally like to see prices come down like by 90%.

It's just that I don't see much to get excited about. The panels are very small right now. The potential is there for very large very thin panels but those are years away - and the payoff small, not much to gain from reducing today's 4" thick panels to the 1-2" OLEDs.

The problem with OLEDs and in fact all organic semiconductors has always been the lack of a detailed mathematical model to predict device performance. We can reliably model the performance of junction and field effect devices, but not the organics. This means that there is typically a large expense to get organic semiconductors in production, all the development is empirical.

See, that's more like the post you should've posted originally.

I agree it has a long ways to go, but the more companies that jump on the band wagon, I think the quicker the improvements in making the technology truly worthwhile will come.

See, that's more like the post you should've posted originally.

He figured you would infer that from his yawn;). I personally get excited about any news on the development of OLED, as far as I can see its the most promising of all the future tech for TVs. Everything is pretty far from being at the consumer level.

Let me know when a 60" is available for under $5000 and has a half-life of at least 10yrs.

I know Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic are into OLED. Any other companies jumping in on OLED?

Yawn.
Not a yawn to me, my friend.

The problem with OLEDs and in fact all organic semiconductors has always been the lack of a detailed mathematical model to predict device performance. We can reliably model the performance of junction and field effect devices, but not the organics. This means that there is typically a large expense to get organic semiconductors in production, all the development is empirical.Just curious but where did you hear that one could reliably model the performance of junction and field effect devices? In particular which display devices would that apply to? Also where did you hear that it was not possible to do that with OLED?

I read that fact about organic semiconductors in an IEEE publication called Spectrum. But the theory of junction semiconductors has been well known since the 1950's, and that of field effect devices since the 1980's. For either type of device you can model the design mathemeaticly and manipulate the model until it indicates the device performance characteristics you want - then you crank through the formulas to determine the parameters for the production of the devices.

Organic semiconductors are of great interest because they do not require expensive materials like the extremely pure monocrystaline silicon used for conventional semiconductors - they should therefore be extremely cheap to produce. But the mathematical device model does not exist - a great hindrance to production, since every such organic device - or array of organic devices in the case of an OLED display, must be tediously optimized via empirical methods (actual fab runs must be made).

Meh, plasma, and most likely LCD, will have perfect picture quality within the next generation or two, mayble slightly longer for LCD. Add that to the sub-half inch thickness both have shown possible and i'm not sure how exciting OLED is looking anymore. The thought of unrolling a 15 pound, 100" OLED screen onto a wall is of course amazing, but we're so far off that it's not worth considering.

While I like to keep an eye on cool new tech it's just appealing until we get something like 60inches around 4k.

Maybe they'll have 24-30inch PC monitors at a competitive price soon?

The thought of unrolling a 15 pound, 100" OLED screen onto a wall is of course amazing, but we're so far off that it's not worth considering.

Now there's one for the futuristic sci-fi movies. Never can get over the idea of seeing 'into the future' movies with present day displays.

I read that fact about organic semiconductors in an IEEE publication called Spectrum.I found the Spectrum website (http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/magazineindex) and which issue was that in?

Meh, plasma, and most likely LCD, will have perfect picture quality within the next generation or two, mayble slightly longer for LCD. Add that to the sub-half inch thickness both have shown possible and i'm not sure how exciting OLED is looking anymore. The thought of unrolling a 15 pound, 100" OLED screen onto a wall is of course amazing, but we're so far off that it's not worth considering.

How is LCD and plasma close to "perfect picture quality" when the highest-end products still suffer phosphor lag, flickering or poor viewing angles and motion blur?

Plasmas has and will have phosphor lag and flickering at standard framerates. Idem with LCD and poor viewing angles/motion blur.

I don't want OLED for the thickness. I don't care about the thickness. I simply want the plasma and LCD flaws to be solved.

How is LCD and plasma close to "perfect picture quality" when the highest-end products still suffer phosphor lag, flickering or poor viewing angles and motion blur?

Plasmas has and will have phosphor lag and flickering at standard framerates. Idem with LCD and poor viewing angles/motion blur.

I don't want OLED for the thickness. I don't care about the thickness. I simply want the plasma and LCD flaws to be solved.

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When a new display technology (first gen Sony XEL-1) surpasses the PQ of maturing display technologies, it's definitely not something to dismiss... Sure the XEL-1 is an 11" display, but out of the box it's motion resolution, color, and black level surpass the best LCD and Plasma displays (which are on their 10 generation or more - e.g. Sammy 950 and Kuro). Hence, OLEDs potential is in it's PQ, followed distantly by the depth of the physical display! :D

I found the Spectrum website (http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/magazineindex) and which issue was that in?
Try this one: http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/archive/1638
"But for the moment there is not a solid enough theoretical foundation to do so."

Looks like page 6 states what he was talking about. I don't see a date on it though.

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When a new display technology (first gen Sony XEL-1) surpasses the PQ of maturing display technologies, it's definitely not something to dismiss... Sure the XEL-1 is an 11" display, but out of the box it's motion resolution, color, and black level surpass the best LCD and Plasma displays (which are on their 10 generation or more - e.g. Sammy 950 and Kuro). Hence, OLEDs potential is in it's PQ, followed distantly by the depth of the physical display! :D

+2

People that have saw the new 31" samsung OLED panel describe it as one big step ahead in picture quality.

Remember how LCDs looked ten years ago? They were almost a joke. A mixture of greyfest and blurfest at premium prices. They looked waaay worse than the CRT screens on that time.

First OLED generation? First OLED generation destroys all the contemporaneous panels and technologies, PQ-wise and everything-but-size-and-prize-wise.

That is not only promising, that single detail defines the future of ALL TV's. In a couple of years every single screen will be OLED, and every single screen will be orders of magnitude better than the ones right now in the stores.

And yes, they will be thicker... But who cares?

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People that have saw the new 31" samsung OLED panel describe it as one big step ahead in picture quality.

Remember how LCDs looked ten years ago? They were almost a joke. A mixture of greyfest and blurfest at premium prices. They looked waaay worse than the CRT screens on that time.

First OLED generation? First OLED generation destroys all the contemporaneous panels and technologies, PQ-wise and everything-but-size-and-prize-wise.

That is not only promising, that single detail defines the future of ALL TV's. In a couple of years every single screen will be OLED, and every single screen will be orders of magnitude better than the ones right now in the stores.

And yes, they will be thicker... But who cares?

Damn, but how long until we get a 50+ sized OLED? I'm getting fustrated, I wish they would hurry up and start pumping these sets out already.