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donaldk
08-29-08, 06:08 PM
Aug 29, 2008 12:42
Luminus Devices and DLP Products Demonstrate Breakthrough Image Quality with Lamp-Free Projectors
Delta Electronics, Optoma and Vivitek Taking the Lead in Offering PhlatLight LED-based DLP Projectors
BERLIN --(Business Wire)-- Aug. 29, 2008
Luminus Devices today demonstrated their collaboration with Texas
Instruments (TI) (NYSE: TXN) DLP(R) Products that bring together the
company's award-winning PhlatLight(R) LED technology with TI's DLP
technology bringing high-quality, long-lasting solid-state
illumination to mainstream projection applications. A new prototype
home theater projector from leading DLP ODM manufacturer Delta
Electronics will be demoed during IFA from August 29 - September 3, at
the TI, DLP Booth #102, Hall 26.


Luminus and TI have been working together to increase brightness
in LED-based DLP projectors by creating brighter and more efficient
PhlatLight LEDs and through improvements in the DLP processing
algorithms. These improvements are enabling multiple projection
manufacturers, such as Delta Electronics and several others to
introduce DLP home theater projectors beginning later in 2008. Further
developments by TI and Luminus will lead to the introduction of
lamp-free projectors for corporate and education markets in the
future.


PhlatLight LED performance and reliability has been proven with
hundreds of thousands of DLP TVs and ultra-portable projectors shipped
over the last several years. This new brightness breakthrough, will
allow manufacturers to create lamp free projectors delivering
dramatically improved picture quality, superior reliability,
convenience and environmental friendliness by eliminating the need for
lamp replacement.


"These projectors can produce outstanding images with far superior
contrast and deeper blacks than lamp-based projectors," said Christian
Hoepfner, vice president of products, Luminus Devices. "PhlatLight
LEDs give DLP projectors a pure RGB light source, producing vivid,
accurate, stable color images that will not shift or fade over time."


Delta is a long-time industry leader in DLP projector development
and manufacturing for a wide variety of applications. Delta's
extensive DLP experience and close cooperation with TI and Luminus has
kept them at the forefront of the latest advancements in projector
development.


"Delta engineers' recognized very early the reliability, value and
astounding performance of this new platform and knew immediately that
this breakthrough technology is the way of the future for projector
technology," said Kirk Chang, manager of technology development, Delta
Electronics. "Delta is excited to rapidly expand the use of PhlatLight
LEDs across our DLP product offering as a way to further grow our
projector business."


Luminus has been manufacturing its patented PhlatLight LEDs for
DLP TVs since 2006 and PhlatLight LEDs remain the only LEDs that are
bright and efficient enough to replace arc lamps. PhlatLight LEDs are
unique in that they are much larger than conventional LEDs and
designed to operate reliably at significantly higher intensity.
PhlatLight LEDs create pure, primary colors sequentially pulsed at
high speeds to provide ultra-fast color refresh for stable, accurate
colors and a smooth picture with superior motion quality.


To schedule a meeting with a Luminus spokesperson at IFA or for
more information contact Bill Keeler or Nicole Slein of Schwartz
Communications at 781 684-0770 or luminus@schwartz-pr.com.


About Luminus Devices


Luminus Devices, Inc. develops and manufactures high performance
solid state light sources for a variety of illumination applications,
including high definition TVs, video projectors, avionics displays,
and lighting systems. Its patented PhlatLight(R) (Photonic Lattice)
LED products are the brightest and most versatile solid-state light
sources available today and are enabling innovative products and
applications never before possible. Luminus Devices' headquarters and
primary manufacturing facilities are located in Billerica,
Massachusetts, U.S.A. For more information, visit http://www.luminus.com and
http://www.phlatlight.com.


Note to editors:


PhlatLight is a registered trademark of Luminus Devices.


DLP is a registered trademark of Texas Instruments.

Luminus Media Contacts:
Schwartz Communications
Bill Keeler or Nicole Slein, 781-684-0770
luminus@schwartz-pr.com



Aug 29, 2008 05:22
Delta Electronics Launches the Industry's First Full HD LED Home Theater DLP(R) Projector
BERLIN --(Business Wire)-- Aug. 29, 2008
Delta Electronics, Inc., a long-time industry leader in DLP(R)
optics, light engine and projector development for a wide variety of
applications, today announced it has completed the development of a
groundbreaking full HD LED projector for the consumer market. With
Delta's high throughput LED optics, 1080P resolution, plus wide color
gamut, this projector provides a high image quality unmatched by any
other lamp projector. It gives the viewer a completely new home
theater experience with the bonus that the user is free from lamp
replacement, as the life of the LED module is estimated at over 20,000
hours of normal operation.


With its experience and close partnership with Texas Instruments,
Luminus Devices and other key suppliers, Delta has a unique early
advantage in recognizing the feasibility of PhlatLight(R) LED and the
value of LED projectors, and has commercialized this product for
customers. Delta is supporting customer demonstrations of the
projector at IFA 2008, Berlin, Germany, between August 29th and
September 3rd, and CEDIA, Denver, Colorado, USA.


"The viewing experience is amazing. The image quality of the
projector's full HD resolution plus saturated color and dynamic
contrast is extremely impressive. With this product, we believe the
era of the LED projector has arrived. Home theater projectors are just
the beginning," said Jeff Fu, Director for Projection Display at
Delta's Display Solutions Business Unit.


"The LED illumination system replaces the lamp, the color wheel
and the shutter of a traditional projector. What is crucial is the
need for a precise and complex control algorithm that allows the LED
to work with the DMD to get high image quality. We have achieved
groundbreaking improvements recently that enable us to bring this
product to market. This LED projector is not only a new product; it
truly opens a new horizon for the projector industry," said Fu.


Delta has developed LED projection technologies for years. LEDs
provide end users with benefits that are not available from a lamp
system. Superior color, long operational life, free of mercury and
UV/IR are among the outstanding benefits an LED projector delivers to
consumers. With the advantages of operational reliability and
convenience, LED projectors will soon evolve from commercial products
to consumer and home use.


* DLP is a registered trademark of Texas Instruments.


** PhlatLight is a registered trademark of Luminus Devices


About Delta Group


Delta Group is the world's largest provider of switching power
supplies and brushless fans, as well as a major source for power
management solutions, components, visual displays, industrial
automation, networking products, and renewable energy solutions.
Established in 1971, Delta Group has sales offices worldwide and
manufacturing plants in Taiwan, China, Thailand, Japan, Mexico, India
and Europe. As a global leader in power electronics, Delta's mission
is, "To provide innovative, clean and efficient energy solutions for a
better tomorrow." Delta is committed to environmental protection and
has implemented green, lead-free production and recycling and waste
management programs for many years.


More information about Delta Group can be found at
http://www.deltaww.com.

Delta Electronics
Jeff Fu, Director, +886-3-4526107 ext. 8770
+886-2-87972088 ext. 8801
Jeff.fu@delta.com.tw
Jesse Chou, Senior Director, +886-2-8797-2088 ext. 5520
Mobile: +886-932-113-258
Fax: +886-2-87972338
jesse.chou@delta.com.tw

joeycalda
08-29-08, 08:26 PM
NICE!! but I guess it not really news unless Sim is involved:rolleyes:

mark haflich
08-29-08, 09:40 PM
Will Sim2 have an LED projector. My bet is it will within a year or so. Delta I bet will be the OEMer of the engine using a TI DLP and an LED light source itself OEMed by Phlatlight.

Will Delta market a consumer projector? I doubt it but anything can happen.

donaldk
08-29-08, 11:17 PM
I believe some-one here mentioned being promised one from Optoma for review, or was it an US Optoma rep... Vivitek is Delta's regular (subsidiary?) consumer electronics outlet. So, you could say they will be marketing this projector.

Art Sonneborn
08-29-08, 11:30 PM
Yea,sounds great . Delta makes the light engines, who will bring it to market ?

Art

donaldk
08-30-08, 12:04 AM
Read again, Optoma and Vivitek, for now.

Only in the headline...

Remarkably enough.

vsv
08-30-08, 05:28 AM
http://www.dlp.com/landing_pages/ifa2008.aspx

rider
08-30-08, 08:21 AM
http://www.dlp.com/landing_pages/ifa2008.aspx

Wow - great link.
Interesting how the projected images from all the PJs were very washed out (I guess due to the video camera/lighting/whatever) except the LED PJ, which had (comparatively) very rich/saturated colors....

joeycalda
08-30-08, 06:17 PM
That is an awesome link and the picture did look fantastic. This is such a nice development and hopefully will bring down the super high-priced projectors status. It might be sad for some you have recently purchased $20-$30k for projectors. Anyone know at what price point these are going to aimed at? Optoma is involved in the game, so price gouging should not be an issue.

Joey

thebland
08-30-08, 06:22 PM
You know, I simply want a decent PJ with enough lumens to light up a 14' wide screen...It seems you have to spend $50K to $80K (or more) for such a piece.

I'll spend it if that's what it takes but I'd like to spend less as Obama (if elected) will cream us in new taxes and I'd like to buy a sports car for next summer, too.:)

Any suggestions?

joeycalda
08-30-08, 07:27 PM
$50k-$80k you can buy entire streets (houses included) in some parts of Detroit. Its seems it has been hit hardest. Do you think it will ever get back to a sense of normality? I remember seeing a picture of a tree growing out of the side of a building, because it had been vacant for so long. Hopefully things will get better there!!

Joey

donaldk
08-30-08, 07:29 PM
The Optoma Pico projector will be Euro 299,- available from November, according to the German clip on the dlp site linked above. The others don't mention pricing on any of the LED projectors from pico through pocket to HT (700 ANSI lumens from Toshiba before the end of the year), as launched at the show/in the clips.

Tony Costanza
08-31-08, 03:33 PM
As an old timer here is what really bothers me.

"Established in 1971, Delta Group has sales offices worldwide and
manufacturing plants in Taiwan, China, Thailand, Japan, Mexico, India
and Europe."

No US?

mark haflich
08-31-08, 09:25 PM
You want the light engine plant to be near where the projectors are manufactured. At least we make the screens here in the US.

Nice to see you posting here Tony. :)

tzucc
08-31-08, 10:45 PM
I dealt with Delta in a previous job, and if I recall correctly, they are a Taiwanese company and as such certainly would not be expected to mfr in the USA.

I am pretty excited about this LED projector... between LED and laser, I think projectors are going to go thru alot of change, hence why I just won't plop down $20K+ for todays state of the art.... they will almost surely be obsolete tech in 5 years.

mmiles
09-01-08, 09:48 PM
You know, I simply want a decent PJ with enough lumens to light up a 14' wide screen...It seems you have to spend $50K to $80K (or more) for such a piece.

I'll spend it if that's what it takes but I'd like to spend less as Obama (if elected) will cream us in new taxes and I'd like to buy a sports car for next summer, too.:)

Any suggestions?

In regards to taxes Obama stated he had a plan to only tax 5% of business and America then he sorta recanted by saying the upper class as I recall. So I guess it waits to be seen, if elected, where the line will be drawn...

Jeff I suggest you let Cineramax hook up with a DPI, less than your 80K top limit I'd guess.

Dizzman
09-01-08, 10:47 PM
hence why I just won't plop down $20K+ for todays state of the art.... they will almost surely be obsolete tech in 5 years.

I thought it was just because you are cheap? :D :D :D

Steve Bruzonsky
09-02-08, 12:13 AM
I dealt with Delta in a previous job, and if I recall correctly, they are a Taiwanese company and as such certainly would not be expected to mfr in the USA.

I am pretty excited about this LED projector... between LED and laser, I think projectors are going to go thru alot of change, hence why I just won't plop down $20K+ for todays state of the art.... they will almost surely be obsolete tech in 5 years.


You better spend your $$$ and enjoy it while you can:


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74044

mark haflich
09-03-08, 12:26 AM
Gee. I'm still using my CRT and you sre telling me todays stuff will be obsolete in 5 years. Five year old digitals indeed are vastly inferior to what's available today so I would expect todays to be vastly inferiorto what will be out there in 5 years. Yet todays is really pretty good and my highly modified CRT is still giving them all a run for their money on my 110" D screen.

W.Mayer
09-03-08, 04:56 PM
back to led as a replacment for uhp and xenon lamps.

i talk tonight with some very knowledge guy about the led pr. ti show
at ifa.
he sad that the color is very bad.
no way any close to a good uhp and far far behind
a xenon lamp.

to much hype about led as always.

there is a long way that led need to go.

coldmachine
09-03-08, 05:14 PM
back to led as a replacment for uhp and xenon lamps.

i talk tonight with some very knowledge guy about the led pr. ti show
at ifa.
he sad that the color is very bad.
no way any close to a good uhp and far far behind
a xenon lamp.

to much hype about led as always.

there is a long way that led need to go.

Heard exactly the same from 2 friends who were there. Both are professional in HD broadcast and expert in their field. Otto on the $3k for also said it was horrible and just looked like a technology demonstration.

Vivitek aren't even claiming to release until Q2 2009. That's up to a year
away.

Its a telling fact that TIs normal technology lead partner are not involved here. Its Optoma and Vivitek. Other companies are looking at other solutions.

Next year maybe.

vsv
09-04-08, 06:25 AM
Chilin Technology Introduces the World’s 1st Lamp Free 1080p Projector with Liquid Cooling Technology at CEDIA EXPO 2008 (http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/512093.html)

For Release 2 p.m. MDT
Sept. 3, 2008

Chilin Technology Introduces the World’s 1st Lamp Free 1080p Projector with Liquid Cooling Technology at CEDIA EXPO 2008

Taiwan OEM/ODM supplier sets to impress the custom home theater channel.

Taiwan -- September 3rd, 2008 -- Chilin Technology, a leading ODM/OEM manufacturer and supplier of high end home theater projectors is pleased to announce the first liquid cooling LED light source home theater projector. In partnership with Luminus Devices and Texas Instruments, this projector features Luminus PhlatLight LED in place of a conventional UHP lamp, as well as the latest Texas Instrument 1080p (1920x1080) DMD technology. In order to optimize the performance of this new light source, the projector requires a thermal management system that breaks with tradition. To this end, Chilin introduces the1st Lamp Free Full HD Home Theater Projector with liquid cooling into the market.

With 600 ANSI lumen and >100,000:1 Contrast Ratio, Chilin delivers an unbelievable 128% NTSC color gamut, which is 80% greater than that achieved through conventional UHP projectors. Integrated with Chilin’s tradition of superior optics and color management performance, the picture quality and color performance is simply unbelievable.

“ Building on our 44-year heritage of superior technical capabilities, we at Chilin are very enthusiastic about the harmony of artistry and technology that we have achieved with our new LED based projector, “said Alex Wang, senior product manager of Chilin Technology. “Though we may be a newcomer as a Taiwan OEM/ODM supplier in the custom home theater arena, we are focused on delivering ultra high end projectors that provide our customers superior color management, picture quality and thermal management systems.”

The secret to building high quality, superior performance and longer lifetime LED based projectors is an advance thermal management system. Chilin engineers designed its liquid cooling technology to assure the optimized performance of LEDs over time. Chilin’s unique cooling technology dissipates heat directly from the Phlat Light LEDs which is operated at a high electric current of 30A, hundreds of heat density higher than current common LED application.

Chilin has designed an efficient cooling technology to assure LED reliability. Chilin’s liquid cooling technology dissipates heat directly by water to keep the PhlatLight LEDs junction at a consistent, low temperature assuring unmatched reliability of Luminus’ LED. This technology truly enables the concept of “no lamp replacement”. Chilin expects to achieve up to 50,000 hours under its liquid cooling technology.

”Chilin Technology is very pleased to announce our successful joint development of using TI’s DLP Technology and Luminus’s Phlat Light LEDs to achieve superior product performance and image quality,” noted Wang.

Most notable, the no shattering, no lamp replacement, HD DLP home theater projector will be demonstrated at CEDIA EXPO 2008 in a private suite located on the 10th Floor, Room # 1014 of the Hilton Garden Inn, 1400 Welton Street, Denver, Colorado. The Chilin suite will be accessible from September 3rd-6th, where Chilin will be showcasing their entire series of DLP based 1080P projectors for existing and future OEM/ODM partners.

Please contact Gina Wu or Alex Wang to schedule a technology preview of Chilin’s product technology at CEDIA EXPO 2008. For more information - www.Chilintech.com.tw


About Chilin TeCHNOLOGY
Chilin Technology was founded in 1964, a subsidiary of the Chi-Mei Group. Chilin Technology has been playing an important role of managing color performance in plastic raw materials for over 40 years. In 2000, Chilin entered the display industry via Flat Panel Display material, LCD Flat Panel Display systems and Projection Display. Chilin is uniquely positioned because of its vertical integrated scope and strength in component supply chain management. Chilin offers “one stop shop” service to companies seeking superior value and performance in their OEM partner.

Chilin Technology Contact Information:
Gina Wu - +886-988-585-225, gina_wu@Chilintech.com.tw
Alex Wang - +866-988-519-933, alex_jp_wang@Chilintech.com.tw


All product and company names referred to herein may be trademarks of their respective owners.

Ohlson
09-04-08, 06:46 AM
What is the problem?

LEDs with oversaturated colors I am sure will be bad thing for someone in broadcasting used to accurate colors.
Arenīt LEDs with oversaturated colors tames to standards by a a 3D CMS all that is needed?

If my assumption is correct any serious color problem with 1DLP LED illuminated projector would have to be related to syncing the LEDs with the dmd.

Dennis Erskine
09-08-08, 08:51 AM
Runco showed an LED prototype at CEDIA. A credible picture but not excellent (which is why it is an engineering prototype.) Time will tell.

Alan Gouger
09-08-08, 10:15 AM
These were taken of the Chilin LED driven DLP. 100" gray hawk screen.

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/screenshot_0127.jpg
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/0904081445.jpg
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/0904081445b.jpg
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/0904081444b.jpg
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/0904081444.jpg
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/0904081445a.jpg
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/0904081447.jpg

donaldk
09-08-08, 01:13 PM
Runco showed an LED prototype at CEDIA. A credible picture but not excellent (which is why it is an engineering prototype.) Time will tell.

Planar's own platform or Delta, or Chi Mei? Is Toshiba also developing a platform or is this one of the ODM platforms?

http://www.dlp.com/landing_pages/ifa2008.aspx

TheBluePill
10-02-08, 11:12 AM
I am most interested in this Technology for a basic Small HT setup. Price is going to be the big question.. What will this sell for.. $2K-$4K? if so, then its well worth it to most of us, i belive.

Alan Gouger
10-02-08, 11:33 AM
I am most interested in this Technology for a basic Small HT setup. Price is going to be the big question.. What will this sell for.. $2K-$4K? if so, then its well worth it to most of us, i belive.

From what I am hearing 10k seams to be the average MSRP. Im sure you will see some variance between manufactures within a few thousand but I doubt you will see a 4k or under for anything new technology delivering superior performance.