It looks like all but the Meridian will be absent,what's left ?

Art

Dpi

Art:

Check out the M80/Heilios from Projection Design if it is actually on display

Art:

Check out the M80/Heilios from DPI if it is actually on display

Lon,
I think that that is PD and unless they are showing at the TI booth then I don't think they are there.

Art

Art:

Check out the M80/Heilios from DPI if it is actually on display

Isn't it PD rather than DPI, two different PJ companies. Projectiondesign and Digital Projection International. PD is booth 342, DPI is booth 1036

Apparently the Helios is not on show. I've had that from a couple of people now, but not 100%.

May be worth checking the DPI Reference series....3 machines 5kCR with 6000lumen, 10000lumen and 14000lumen.

Yes I corrected that PD not DPI

What about the rumored Qualia replacement @ 4K

Also worth a look may be the Supernova Epic screen from DNP (booth 357)

Unfortunately it only goes up to 13ft. I've heard its a great screen. It has one really cool trick, the masking can go all the way to the center, closing the screen completely.

What about the rumored Qualia replacement @ 4K

I heard that the Sony 4k wont be there. Alan posted to that effect as well, so its not looking good.

Are there any strip clubs in Denver?

Next best thing to 3 chip DLP, make sure you and Art report back

It's meridian, Coyote Cinema,and JVC Dila. DPI , PD, SIM, 3dlp.

Are there any strip clubs in Denver?

Denver isnt the best place in the country for strip clubs but here's a couple with my comments.

1.La Boheme Gentlemen's Cabaret......Try the Pearl room

2.Shotgun Willie's..........Normally good but a $20 livens things up if it needs it. Decent cigar selection

Denver isnt the best place in the country for strip clubs but here's a couple with my comments.

1.La Boheme Gentlemen's Cabaret......Try the Pearl room

2.Shotgun Willie's..........Normally good but a $20 livens things up if it needs it. Decent cigar selection


I knew you would be first to respond

I knew you would be first to respond

What can I say, I'm a cosmopolitan guy.

More like a man-whore.

Both the Helios and Optix are up and running at PD's booth. The rest of the avielo line will be on static display as well.

More like a man-whore.

Bigalow style.

"you the best he-bitch in my man stable. If I had two more manginas like you, I'd be a millionaire."

Both the Helios and Optix are up and running at PD's booth. The rest of the avielo line will be on static display as well.

That's really great news.

Im sure the forum regulars will be all over it.

Both the Helios and Optix are up and running at PD's booth. The rest of the avielo line will be on static display as well.


Kdavis:

What are the latest specs on the Helios?

Coldmachine:

2 words for you Mons Venus

Wolf Cinema Distributed By Sumiko would be the one to look for....

I thought it was Coyote Cinema...:D

Coldmachine:

2 words for you Mons Venus

2 words for you.........Done that.:D






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2 words for you.........Done that.:D






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Kdavis:

What are the latest specs on the Helios?

The same as before until they unbox their literature tomorrow, I'll try to get that info tomorrow and let you know.

The same as before until they unbox their literature tomorrow, I'll try to get that info tomorrow and let you know.

Thanks Kdavis, what where the old specs?

The same as before until they unbox their literature tomorrow

Does that mean the 50k figure or the revised 10k?

Thanks Kdavis, what where the old specs?

Unknown, rumor, speculation and W.A.G.'s - which means tomorrow should be really informative :-)

Does that mean the 50k figure or the revised 10k?

This one I do know, regardless of what it was, the spec is for 10K - remember they don't believe in active irising, which afik is the only way to get into the 20K-50K range (btw: if someone knows how to get above 10K without active irising, please share).

(btw: if someone knows how to get above 10K without active irising, please share).

I believe the next generation, not the current offering, of LED will be the first to do this with DLP. The 3 matrix units, using 240 LEDs per matrix, are promising to make CR a meaningless spec.

What would be the primary difference between a projector with an adaptive iris vs one with a dynamic iris?

How about the Mitsubishi HC6500? Comments on this one?

Both the Helios and Optix are up and running at PD's booth. The rest of the avielo line will be on static display as well.


Is this true ?

Art

Is this the one with the promised crazy high contrast numbers.

Is this the one with the promised crazy high contrast numbers.


Yes it is. This might be worth the trip. I hate being sick 102 fever right now. I have to decide if it's worth it.

Art

Yes, PDM80 @50K:1, reintroduced a PD Helios @ 10K;1

Art, Get better man!!!

Not to boast or anything but right now I could put a better show down here than CEDIA.

Not to boast or anything


Noooooo.:p:D

Art

Art, Get better man!!!


Thanks, I'm working on it.To bed we go.

Art

Art, Coldmachine and Alan:

According to this post Christie will have the HD10k-M on display in booth 813 http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14577714#post14577714

Have a look see

Art, Coldmachine and Alan:

According to this post Christie will have the HD10k-M on display in booth 813 http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14577714#post14577714

Have a look see

Lon I was about to respond to that post. I wish it was the 6k. I was told today the 6k will not ship until Oct.
I searched for Cedia 08 booth 813 and found this. Looks like CodexNovus may be using the Christie to demo their platforms.

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CodexNovus Holds "Introduction to Digital Media Library/Players Seminar ...
Helping CEDIA Certified Professionals maintain certification, ... Wolf Cinema theater in the Sumiko booth #813 with HD video playback powered by CodexNovus ...
www.hometoys.com/news_detail.php?id=19200407 - Cached

Lon I was about to respond to that post. I wish it was the 6k. I was told today the 6k will not ship until Oct.
I searched for Cedia 08 booth 813 and found this. Looks like CodexNovus may be using the Christie to demo their platforms.

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CodexNovus Holds "Introduction to Digital Media Library/Players Seminar ...
Helping CEDIA Certified Professionals maintain certification, ... Wolf Cinema theater in the Sumiko booth #813 with HD video playback powered by CodexNovus ...
www.hometoys.com/news_detail.php?id=19200407 - Cached


Booth 813 is Jim Burns

http://www.cedia.net/expo/new_expo/ExhibitLevel.pdf

And he has a party saturday:
Wolf Cinema CEDIA Banquet “After” Party and Howling - 10:00 pm - 1:00 am (open)
WHERE: Denver Center for The Performing Arts, Glenn R. Jones Theatre and Lobby (14th and Curtis Street, across from the convention center)
DETAILS: Wolf Cinema will be providing VIP drink tickets to dealers. All others are welcome to snacks and the cash bar, and of course the music and some "movie fun."

Small booth. Off site for his demoes.

Art.I can handle Peter or Jeff or Get Gray or Darin or Rogo or Ken or Miss K by themselves, but all at once? Get well. My flights at 6:35 this morning from National, Not going to bed.

Cat's out of the bag, wolf Cinema based on Christie Chasis.

And I thought you said it was a 4k JVC meridian class...

what if there is a 6K offered?

I will be checking out the LED, laser demos if possible, JVC HD350/750, and anything else I get time for. I will only be there for 4-5 hours or so. I also want to see what's new in sound pre/pro's before I pull the trigger on the Denon. I can't believe Lexicon is asleep at the switch...

Ash,

Are you saying that wolf also has a lcos platform, or 6k contrast, or brightness?

Ash,

Are you saying that wolf also has a lcos platform, or 6k contrast, or brightness?

Maybe he means the HD6k

Looks like projectiondesign will be in full force at Cedia.

projectiondesign to provide new avielo series projectors for 200+ education sessions at CEDIA EXPO 08 (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6371)

Denver, CO (CEDIA EXPO) August 22, 2008 – Norway’s projectiondesign announces its exclusive role as the official CEDIA EXPO projector sponsor ensuring that all training and education rooms will be equipped with new avielo series 1080p DLP home cinema projectors. The projectors will be used for the display of a wide range of educational presentation material, high-resolution computer graphics and video throughout EXPO 08.

The avielo series is a step above most home cinema projectors as projectiondesign incorporated their professional DLP technology and experience with commercial projectors and the movie theater industry into a new range of home cinema projectors tailored to the specific needs and esthetics of the residential environment and consumers alike.

"Thanks to the generosity of projectiondesign, CEDIA EXPO 08 will have new high-tech HD DLP projectors in more than 200 education sessions," said Tom Bewsey, CEDIA Sponsorship Sales Coordinator. "We appreciate projectiondesign's enhancing the EXPO 08 educational experience."

Show participants will see firsthand the depth, accuracy and clarity of projectiondesign’s avielo series 1080p single-chip projectors during every educational classroom presentation, workshop and course attended. All avielo models feature projectiondesign’s exclusive RealColor color management suite, full 10-bit video processing, and proprietary custom designed signature series optics. Each projector is uniquely characterized and calibrated at the company’s factory in Fredrikstad, Norway.

New avielo series of high performance DLP projectors includes five models to choose from including the optix (1080p dual lamp), spectra (1080p), radiance (1080p), prisma (720p) and helios (three-chip, 1080p).

Small booth. Off site for his demoes.

Art.I can handle Peter or Jeff or Get Gray or Darin or Rogo or Ken or Miss K by themselves, but all at once? Get well. My flights at 6:35 this morning from National, Not going to bed.

YEah, lets get together and see these together... I have Art's cell. Should be fun!

Peter,
I am not allowed to post details.... but expect wolf to introduce a FEW very high end projectors. . ...and high priced. . . . .
With Sumiko distributing the product, warranties will be adequately covered and after sales service would be great....
It is a bummer that Meridian 4k will not be at the show and if Sony 4K is also not there. . . . that's dissapointing.
Ash

Thanks Ash.

Who said Meridian is not there. They have to. They better.

Thanks Ash.

Who said Meridian is not there. They have to. They better.

See my post below. Booth 545 I believe.

Yes Meridian will be there. Probably showing 810 projector/processor and their new DSP7200 speakers.

What I want to hear/see about is the rumored 4:2 HDMI-MHR solution for the current gen processors.

Well is a three way race between the Titan Reference, the Meridian, and the Coyote Cinemas. Also the Lighting Reference may win again this year due to the Xenon lamps.

Yes Meridian will be there. Probably showing 810 projector/processor and their new DSP7200 speakers.

What I want to hear/see about is the rumored 4:2 HDMI-MHR solution for the current gen processors.

Probably ? This is the most talked about projector in many years it has been shown mutiple times already.

Art

Well is a three way race between the Titan Reference, the Meridian, and the Coyote Cinemas. Also the Lighting Reference may win again this year due to the Xenon lamps.

Dont count out the Helios.

Maybe you'll get a lap dance this year Peter.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1062841

I understand For those who have do not have projection Booths, the Meridian is designed for setting on a table, not attaching to the ceiling....
CEDIA demo should give more answers....

Anyone know if the Helios showed at IFA Berlin last week?

Anyone know if the Helios showed at IFA Berlin last week?

Didn't hear a word, so I assumed not. I'd love to see it as its on my short list.

The same as before until they unbox their literature tomorrow, I'll try to get that info tomorrow and let you know.


Is there somewhere to find the full spec sheet or brochure of the Helios

This is the second time i see this projector and it is NOT ACCEPTABLE-way too pasty.

Ditto on the whacked out PD unit. The single chip looked better!

The DPI top of the line, Reference I think, was #1.

SIM C3X1080 (with new content sampling 2x through put of BR!) #2

Marantz single chip 11S ?? #3

Planar single chip 8910 ?? #4

JVC HD750 #5

SIM D60 1080p #6

Note 4, 5 and 6 are very close to my eye and I did not see the Runco but did see the Sony V70?? and was not very impressed.

Again this is my eye and your WILL vary. BTW, what is the deal with the 3D crap. I almost spewed once!

Is there somewhere to find the full spec sheet or brochure of the Helios

Here;
helios (three chip, 1080p) (http://www.avielo.com/pdf/avielo%20helios%20EN%20web%20(602-0450-00).pdf)


Avielo Projectors product range. (http://www.avielo.com/products.html)

Really sad that it is listed as native 10,000:1 with high lumens, great opticas and < 50lbs ,yet it impressed no one at CEDIA.

Art

Art:

Where in the specs did you see anything about lumen output?

Really sad that it is listed as native 10,000:1 with high lumens, great opticas and < 50lbs ,yet it impressed no one at CEDIA.

Art

As the Dalai Lama said.... "Dude, you just cant polish a turd":)

I gotta tell you... We should have asked the Helios folks to take the Panamorph away.

I gotta tell you... We should have asked the Helios folks to take the Panamorph away.

I couldn't believe that when I heard it.

Its like trying to demo a high end audio source through a frikkin Bose wave radio.

No it is a simple and effective way to smear an excessively pasty image.

No it is a simple and effective way to smear an excessively pasty image.

see post #69.

Just out of curiosity, what is everyone's opinion of the Optix (the first projector shown)?

Would it be fair to say that a projector with 6500 lumens might be the wrong unit for screen that small in a room that small?

The optix kicked major ass. I am phobic about rainbows. I sat there blinking my eyes, alternating the blinking between the right left, swinging my head left right then shaking it. Try doing all those things at the same time and you look like an idiot, or someone having a seizure. The Optix passed with flying colors. I have added the DPI version to my current bag of tricks.


It was not the brightness it was the pastyness that annoyed the heck out of me. Like when we had crt projectors and reduced the raster to create a smaller ar, then the pixels were one on top of another.That is pastyness. It is poor signal to noise ratio, and this one took the cake.

We were doing the same thing and saw nothing - great results.

Why the DPI version vs the pd?

No particular advantage except access to it.

10-4, makes sense.

Just on a side note, and after a lengthy discussion with the pd guys, in as much as they really wanted to show off the grandness of the Helios they are very aware that they came up short (I have an absolutely hilarious story about setup that's best told over a beer) . The projector they had is not a production unit, they are still developing it and it's simply not ready for prime time (that was probably obvious in the demo). They are not big fans of the P-lens but the local pd rep is the P rep too so I think that was an area of friction and maybe why the P was in play. At the end of the day, the pd guys were hoping visitors left with an overall impression of how good the Optix was and just how much light output the Helios had. I'm not trying to make excuses, just telling you how it is and if your saw it, you know how it was.

When the Helios is actually ready for prime time, pd and I might get together and do a mini-tradeshow with the entire avielo line. Stay tuned I'll let you know in the coming weeks if we'll be able to pull it off.

Sometimes I just have to scratch my head. When I have a home theater meet I come loaded for bear. All I'm risking is my reputation for doing it well with what I have. These guys are risking both sales of that unit and the company's reputation to deliver at the biggest home theater trade show. Of course this isn't just PD but what the hell.... showing something,anything, in less than giving everything you have just seems stupid to me.:confused:

Art

I agree, I'm not sure what the thought process is there but your right, it's not limited to pd - it always amazes me when any company does not put their best show on. Unfortunately, over the years I have a built up a fairly decent tolerance to this and the vapor products - I simply don't believe the hype until I can see/hear a production product in a controled environment (that does not include tradeshows, hotel rooms, conference rooms, etc), perhaps I need to go to a/v rehab for a reset.

I have added the DPI version to my current bag of tricks.




Are you refering to the dVision 30?

Not the dvision 30, that one has noticeable rainbows, the little one with the big bulb and big lens, it's amazing.

Not the dvision 30, that one has noticeable rainbows, the little one with the big bulb and big lens, it's amazing.

The iVison30 them.

I'm not susceptible to rainbows.