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RigorousXChris 09-03-08, 07:07 PM I am about to go ahead and get my KDSXXA3000 calibrated soon.
Just to give myself the extra confidence boost to do it. I use DVE to calibrate my TV right now. Will getting professional ISF calibration make my blu-rays, PS3, 360 and everything else THAT much better to say to myself that it was well worth the money paid ($300-$400).
I like my pictures to pop out of the screen and especially with the A3000, you can get the extreme-video like picture, I also like that.
Will ISF calibrations further enhance what I see? What do you guys think?
creatine64 09-03-08, 07:49 PM yes, they can get into menus that are not under user controls and though DVE is good it doesn't dial in the set the way a pro calibrator could.
it will be money well spent
alluringreality 09-03-08, 08:52 PM I'll disagree with one of creatine64's points and say it's not a given a person that has attended an ISF seminar would necessarily use anything beyond user controls with the TV. I think http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13729088#post13729088 is a very reasonable response to the general question being asked here. In my opinion grayscale from setting color temp, white balance, and related controls would be the major difference in paying someone to setup the TV compared to what can be discussed in the settings thread.
BeachComber 09-03-08, 11:55 PM I'll disagree with one of creatine64's points and say it's not a given a person that has attended an ISF seminar would necessarily use anything beyond user controls with the TV. I think http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13729088#post13729088 is a very reasonable response to the general question being asked here. In my opinion grayscale from setting color temp, white balance, and related controls would be the major difference in paying someone to setup the TV compared to what can be discussed in the settings thread.
I do not disagree - but I would add that SOME of the pros have the better equipment to do the job A LOT better than an i1 display or spyder. The right equipment cannot make up for lack of knowledge and experience - however, if I am going to pay for an ISF calibration, I will never pay to have it done by anyone other than probably one of the dozen or so that use a true SpectroRadiometer.
GeorgeAB 09-04-08, 02:07 AM I like my pictures to pop out of the screen and especially with the A3000, you can get the extreme-video like picture, I also like that.
Will ISF calibrations further enhance what I see? What do you guys think?
This statement has me unsure of your objective in seeking a calibration service. It may help you to review this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13698499#post13698499 .
creatine64 09-04-08, 07:01 AM I'll disagree with one of creatine64's points and say it's not a given a person that has attended an ISF seminar would necessarily use anything beyond user controls with the TV. I think http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13729088#post13729088 is a very reasonable response to the general question being asked here. In my opinion grayscale from setting color temp, white balance, and related controls would be the major difference in paying someone to setup the TV compared to what can be discussed in the settings thread.
I see your point alluringreality my response was more of a general response about getting an isf calibration done for someone who's not interested in the DIY stuff.
RigorousXChris
it all boils down to research and doing your homework before hand and here's a good place to start (AVSForums), this is a good thread to go thru that has isf calibrators in it http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=586330
if you feel that you could tackle this on your own
check out this thread
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10457
I am about to go ahead and get my KDSXXA3000 calibrated soon.
Just to give myself the extra confidence boost to do it. I use DVE to calibrate my TV right now. Will getting professional ISF calibration make my blu-rays, PS3, 360 and everything else THAT much better to say to myself that it was well worth the money paid ($300-$400).
I like my pictures to pop out of the screen and especially with the A3000, you can get the extreme-video like picture, I also like that.
Will ISF calibrations further enhance what I see? What do you guys think?
With your particular model, no. It is very accurate out of the box with minor tweaking. Look up the cnet review.
BeachComber 09-04-08, 11:33 PM With your particular model, no. It is very accurate out of the box with minor tweaking. Look up the cnet review.
Interesting and comical. Have you seen his particular set or has cnet? :rolleyes:
I will say these units are much more complex and different to configure than previous models. It was also way off in almost all respects out of the box. Sony also appears to have altered the spectrum making it very challenging to measure. My i1 Pro was in error by greater than 0.01 for x and 0.008 for y on gray scale compared to my PR-670 which is huge. It will probably be very difficult for anyone to get good colors on this beast with anything short of a 5nm PR-670.
Tony Rox 09-05-08, 01:55 AM I just got done calibrating my 60a3000 with a Sencore VP401 signal generator, and OTC 1000 Colorimeter. I had to make adjustments in all area's, but because it has both high and low IRE white balance controls, I was able to get my xy to .312 x .329. This is well within the IFS standard tolerance, and the gamma was 2.2:1 post cal.
I have not done a lot of sets, but I have done some DLP's, some Plasma's, a couple LCD's and even a direct view CRT. I would have to rate this TV as number two only behind the 40" XBR TV, for pure picture fidelity, but at 60"'s vs. the 40" (4:3 aspect ratio), there's no contest for emotional involvement.
You're gonna be stoked after it's been calibrated.
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