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E-A-G-L-E-S 09-16-08, 02:17 AM I am considering moving my HT gear and FP to an unused bedroom for movie watching and big game sports.
Then using my living room as a more standard living room with a plasma and layout more for comfort than HT performance.
***This means that until at least x-mas time I will have to use horrible tv speakers in living room.
....so do you think I should do this or should I keep the dual purpose living room that doesn't look quite as good??
Here is the info.:
Room:
143" x 154" x 96"H
Two windows next to eachother on east wall(centered)
Door in corner of west and south wall on the west wall
Equipment designated for this room:
Planar pd7130 FP PJ
Yamaha RX-V661 AVR
5x Onix X-ls(front stage)
DIY Tempest-X in a 24" cube sealed, powered by a Behringer EP2500.
PS3
Furniture:
83" long x 34" wide three person couch
40" wide single leather movie recliner
E-A-G-L-E-S 09-17-08, 12:05 PM Echoes are a bad thing, no?
If I just talk and hear echoes in this room that means I'm going to need serious room treatments, no?
E-A-G-L-E-S 10-06-08, 01:19 PM Can someone help?
ccotenj 10-06-08, 02:17 PM i vote separate room...
that way when the iggles are melting down like they did this weekend, the rest of your family won't hear your cries of pain and agony... :p
E-A-G-L-E-S 10-06-08, 03:36 PM So sour today. :mad:
At least I have my Fightins' :)
What do I need to worry about with what is basically a square room that is small with only an 8' ceiling? Can't afford any commercial treatments.
ccotenj 10-06-08, 03:39 PM well, square is ALWAYS a pita... :(
but there are ways to help it... bookshelves, plants, etc. can all help...
nothing is like "real" treatments, but that doesn't mean you can't help it out with some low cost things...
others might have some other ideas too... check the acoustics thread...
ps. that was pathetic. i thought that game was over at 14-0 and turned the sillies on. went back in the 2nd half and was like, wtf???
jostenmeat 10-06-08, 03:49 PM Echoes are a bad thing, no?
If I just talk and hear echoes in this room that means I'm going to need serious room treatments, no?
yes, echoes are a bad thing, and perhaps most particularly for HT. as ccotenj has said, square is not a good thing. Lastly, depending on how small is small, and how many viewers there are, and how much heat your components are making, where you live .... it could possibly get pretty stuffy.
tough choices, but you're the one that has to make them. All comes down to personal preferences and needs.
E-A-G-L-E-S 10-06-08, 03:53 PM Along the side and rear walls or just in corners?
I'll check into the acoustics threads for tips and DIY treatment ideas.
I don't know what to say about the Birds right now....Andrews will miss at least another week, probably to bye week though.
Westbrook has two or three broken ribs!?! Game time for this week. :(
Curtis is "coming along" ?!?
E-A-G-L-E-S 10-06-08, 03:58 PM yes, echoes are a bad thing, and perhaps most particularly for HT. as ccotenj has said, square is not a good thing. Lastly, depending on how small is small, and how many viewers there are, and how much heat your components are making, where you live .... it could possibly get pretty stuffy.
tough choices, but you're the one that has to make them. All comes down to personal preferences and needs.
~80% of the time there are three people watching...the other 20% is a mix of two, four or rarely five people.
The gear will all be kept where it is which is not in either of the rooms.(living room nor possible new room)
Room dimensions are above along with screen and sub and seats.
There is a window that will be blacked out but I can make it so that it can be opened behind the blackout for air if ever needed.
Acoustics are what really worry me most. But this is something that I would like to be able to do if it will work.
jostenmeat 10-06-08, 04:05 PM ~80% of the time there are three people watching...the other 20% is a mix of two, four or rarely five people.
The gear will all be kept where it is which is not in either of the rooms.(living room nor possible new room)
Room dimensions are above along with screen and sub and seats.
There is a window that will be blacked out but I can make it so that it can be opened behind the blackout for air if ever needed.
Acoustics are what really worry me most. But this is something that I would like to be able to do if it will work.
I say you experiment. Do you have some other receiver or integrated you can take into the room, and hook up some speakers? If you don't have $ for treatments... and it sounds echoey.... hmmmm. Rugs, curtains, and all that might help.
I tried the whole dedicated 2 ch room earlier this year. Room is just the worst of its kind man, impossible. I even brought in 300lbs of the best treatments I knew of... and gave up. Back in the living room. FWIW.
E-A-G-L-E-S 10-06-08, 04:33 PM I say you experiment. Do you have some other receiver or integrated you can take into the room, and hook up some speakers? If you don't have $ for treatments... and it sounds echoey.... hmmmm. Rugs, curtains, and all that might help.
I tried the whole dedicated 2 ch room earlier this year. Room is just the worst of its kind man, impossible. I even brought in 300lbs of the best treatments I knew of... and gave up. Back in the living room. FWIW.
No extra speakers at all. I do currently have an extra AVR, but I can rather easily move my 5.1 into that room(just speakers and wire and needed stands)
while not disconnecting from my AVR at all in its' current and what would be its' same future spot.
It is carpeted, but it is bare bones currently. Rugs and curtains are definitely doable with blackout cloth on the backside of the curtains.
What were the dimensions of the room you tried?
jostenmeat 10-06-08, 04:41 PM Can't quite recall, but typical BR size. Ya know, it wasn't so much the smaller room, or asymmetry with the closet (of which mirrors I had removed, and replaced with curtain), etc. Something is going on with the walls, vents, etc. Its was terrible. In fact, COMPLETELY unenjoyable. So, YMMV.
I say take the extra receiver, and disconnect a couple of surrounds (if bookshelves, etc), and try throwing a movie track on at typical volumes for you.
In a way, I think its the only way you will really know.
ccotenj 10-06-08, 05:45 PM yea, i agree with josten... the best way to find out is to try it... it may not end up being perfect, but it also might be perfectly acceptable... or it could be like josten's situation, where it just didn't work...
rugs, curtains, bookshelves with uneven spacing of books, plants in the corner, etc. etc. etc. can all help...
expectation level/desires come into play too... i tend to get involved with what i'm watching, so if the sound isn't perfect, i tend to not necessarily get too upset about it... sometimes, you just have to deal with what you have... my room is far from "perfect", but it beats not having a room at all...
it never hurts to experiment... try it a few different ways in there... i found that swapping the room around made a big improvement for me...
yup. no andrews 'til who knows when, broken ribs for westbrook means probably out for a couple weeks, and who knows on curtis. plus who knows how bad the quarterback's chest injury really is? and what happened to jackson this week? he barely saw the field.
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