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JeffreyNYA
09-17-08, 10:48 PM
I am looking at getting the 67'' Sammy LED DLP. My only issue is that do to how my room is going to be setup, it looks like the center of the screen would be at right about 64 inches from the floor. I will be about 10.5 feet back and the height to my eyes is just about 36'' give or take for how I am sitting. Now realizing that the vertical view is very small on this TV, would I still be on the ok range or would I need to find a way to tip it a little and if so how much would I have to tip it?

Thanks for the help

ksbarnz
09-17-08, 11:55 PM
I am looking at getting the 67'' Sammy LED DLP. My only issue is that do to how my room is going to be setup, it looks like the center of the screen would be at right about 64 inches from the floor. I will be about 10.5 feet back and the height to my eyes is just about 36'' give or take for how I am sitting. Now realizing that the vertical view is very small on this TV, would I still be on the ok range or would I need to find a way to tip it a little and if so how much would I have to tip it?

Thanks for the help

I had the exact same problem as you. I ended up tipping my 65 inch mitsubishi about an inch and a half. I did this by cutting out cardboard that was the width of the base (but still small enough where it would not stick out and not be seen) and stacked about 4 high in the back, 2 in the middle and one in the front. I can now see the "sweet spot" even though my TV is at little higher than eye level.

JeffreyNYA
09-18-08, 12:06 AM
ya, I was thinking of doing that as well. I actually have the guy coming over tomorrow that is building the entire entertainment center. He may have ideas on how I can get a little bit of a tilt built in and adjustable if needed.

walford
09-18-08, 09:56 AM
If your eyes are 36" above the floor where do you get the idea that the center of the screen should be at 64". The center of the screen should be at eye level when watching it or also at 36"

JeffreyNYA
09-18-08, 10:21 AM
yes, I do know where it should be in a perfect world. However with how my area is setup having it at that height is not going to work. Not much I can do about it unless I tear down the external block wall. Not a good idea. Thats why I askedthe question the way I did.

walford
09-18-08, 11:37 AM
I don't think you will be happy with the end result especially at 11' viewing distance since you may suffer from both a sore neck and from itchy eyes since when looking up your eyelids get rolled back and therfore you have to blink every couple of seconds to keep your eyes moist.
One of the best quotes concerning putting an HDTV too high is that if you do you just end up with an expensive radio.
I suggest that you switch to a 52-55" LCD flat panel that you can mount at the correct high on your wall.

JeffreyNYA
09-18-08, 12:25 PM
Ya, I have been looking into that option. Just trying to get the best bang for the buck. Miss the days of inexpensive large screens everywhere.

So it looks like I would be at about 27 degrees or so with current config. Would it make any difference if I were to tilt it say 2 to 3 inches or would this cause the TV to have issues.

Also with LCD and plasma mounted at the same height would I have the eye strain issues there as well?

walford
09-18-08, 01:03 PM
Tilting it would just make sure that you can see the screen pixels better since at 30% there are very hard to see it does not change the potential problems.
In my area true 1080p 52" value line LCDs are not much more then DLPs.
You should also be aware that SD programs will most likely look washed out or grainy with a 67" screen at 11'
I have an older 46" DLP and not like SD programs or HD programs fiilmed with SD cameras at closer then 8'
Check out SD PQ at your TV store for the 67" model.
Bang for the buck is only worthwhile if you and your family will be pleased with your choice for the entire time period that you own the set.

JeffreyNYA
09-18-08, 01:35 PM
Good advice, thanks. SD was a little bit of a concern to me. I was looing at running everything through a reciever that will upconvert. Will that help at all? I will look at other options and see what I can find. Just trying to keep everything within the budget that I have.


Thanks again

walford
09-18-08, 02:45 PM
Whether a reciver does the upconverting or the TV does it does not make a big different. Taking a <500 Mpixel per frame 640x480 SD image and upconverting it to a 2.1 Mpixel 1920x1080 per frame image requires inventing the content of over 3/4 of the frame contents which is why the content looks washed out or grainy.

Darin
09-18-08, 03:15 PM
It also depends on your source. I have a 73" that I view from 10'. SD from DirecTV looks like @ss, but upconverted DVD looks fine. I've also set up my PS3's upconversion to "double scale" rather than normal. That results in upscaling to an even 2x pixel dimension (so 480x720 gets upconverted to 960x1440, instead of 1080x1920). That has several advantages: the upconversion looks sharper due to the even multiplier of upconversion, it's blown up a little less so the limits of SD aren't as exaggerated, and some of the image that would normally be lost to overscan is regained. You end up with an SD image that is slightly smaller than an HD image.

If you watch mostly HD or upconverted DVD, a larger screen allows you to reap the benefits of the higher resolution of HD, and get closer to a more ideal viewing angle. But yeah, if you watch a lot of poor quality SD feeds, it might not look so good.

JeffreyNYA
09-18-08, 03:29 PM
Most of our viewing right now is just from network TV. We get all the locals in Digital and HD by Antenna. We have a digital package through mediacom. Most channels looks like crap on our 55 inch Rear projection crt. HD, OTA Digital and DVD's look just fine to me. So would I be looking at the same quality on the DLP our would it be better? We also have all the SD stretched to fit the screen. I am guessign that probably does not help matters either.

Darin
09-18-08, 03:46 PM
DLP will not magically do something for poor SD that your CRT can't do. In fact, it's possible that it could be worse. My previous Sony RP-CRT would upscale SD to 960 lines instead of 1080, just like I'm doing with DVD on the PS3. It was known to be relatively decent for viewing SD. DLP, being a fixed pixel 1080x1920 display, doesn't have that flexibility. I would assume SD to look fairly similar to what you get now, except bigger.

JeffreyNYA
09-19-08, 11:37 AM
ok, I have decided not to get a DLP. I will do some research on LCD's. Now if I mount that on the wall and angle it down a little bit will that work fine? Is there going to be alot of eye strain if its a eye level standing? So sititng is 35 inches and middle screen would be 65 to 70.

walford
09-19-08, 02:14 PM
As I stated before any HDTV whose screen significantly above eye level is just an expensive radio and I certanly consider one twice as high as it should be a significant difference.
Maybe you and your other family members can go your computer store and sit on the floor at your viewing distance so as to get the screen center 36" above your eye level and see how you like it.

mullmann
09-20-08, 10:51 AM
I am looking at getting the 67'' Sammy LED DLP. My only issue is that do to how my room is going to be setup, it looks like the center of the screen would be at right about 64 inches from the floor. I will be about 10.5 feet back and the height to my eyes is just about 36'' give or take for how I am sitting. Now realizing that the vertical view is very small on this TV, would I still be on the ok range or would I need to find a way to tip it a little and if so how much would I have to tip it?

Thanks for the help

Seems like you've done all the math, but since the discussion turned to eyestrain, let's bring it back to the math. With the set's vertical viewing angle, the maximum height the center can be above your 36" eye level at a 10.5-foot viewing distance is 54.5 inches. So eyestrain issues aside, you'll definitely get dimming at the set height you're looking at with this DLP. Sounds like your decision to look at LCDs instead is the right one.