View Full Version : Just what IS Little Big Planet???


Chairman7w
09-25-08, 11:52 AM
Hi guys,

Hoping for some education here. What exactly IS Little Big Planet? I have gone to their website but I can't make heads or tails of what this game actually is.

Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks!

TornadoTJ
09-25-08, 12:06 PM
It is whatever you make it! :D

ppshooky
09-25-08, 12:07 PM
It's a 3d side-scrolling platform game.

However, you have a lot of control of your character. For instance, the directional pad changes facial expression. Holding down R2+L2 will turn the thumb sticks into controls for the left and right arm. Sixaxis controls the posture (IE, tilt down, the Sackperson looks down).

There was a lot of detail put into the physics for this game. Everything has a certain weight to it. As an example, one object can be too heavy for one Sackperson to pick up, and will require teamwork to lift the object.

Not only that, but this game has the ability to create. You can create your own Sackperson using the skins and accessories you've unlocked through single player. Or, you can completely design your own outfit for your character. You can also create your own levels and make them into anything you want. The game creators mentioned the possibility of making a pop-up storybook or any other type of game. I suggest watching this presentation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uToBarLr_U) from the 2008 E3 presentation. To give you some context, this was a presentation to let the press know how well the PS3 did so far. Recently, they went to a prestigious design school and had a competition among the students from varying disciplines design levels. Link to the announcement (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20210) and the winner (http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/09/23/parsons-students-create-shadow-of-the-littlebigcolossus/) (with video). The possibilities are, theoretically, endless.

On top of all of this, the game features 4 player co-op online and offline and the ability to share you level online with others (with ranking). There are other details of the online mode that I'm leaving out, but encourage you to read more about the online potential.

tgable
09-25-08, 12:08 PM
It's a platformer with up to 4 player co-op. The big selling point is that you are given all the tools to create new levels. You can then share these levels and play them online.

TornadoTJ
09-25-08, 12:10 PM
Any idea if the creation tools for LBP are still going to be available for PSP? I haven't heard any talk about that for a long time

jblank74
09-25-08, 12:10 PM
Maybe it is because I am an older gamer, but I just don't see the hype/appeal/draw of the game. So many good and interesting games coming out between now and the end of the year, this one just doesn't seem to be among them, for me at least.

PJ_Rage
09-25-08, 12:15 PM
Maybe it is because I am an older gamer, but I just don't see the hype/appeal/draw of the game. So many good and interesting games coming out between now and the end of the year, this one just doesn't seem to be among them, for me at least.I was with ya until I heard that there's the possibility to remake our favs using LBP. Think the entire super mario brothers (1) game, only done in LBP. Could be interesting. We'll see.

Vizion47
09-25-08, 12:24 PM
Google is your friend.

ndskyz
09-25-08, 12:25 PM
It's a platformer with up to 4 player co-op. The big selling point is that you are given all the tools to create new levels. You can then share these levels and play them online.

Isnt that what we are paying the 60 bucks for...for THEM to create the games? :D All Joking aside I wonder what kind of content is going to be created. My understanding is 10 mins of game time play takes 1 1/2 hours of time to create. I'd much rather be spending my (rather LIMITED) time playing the game and not creating a level to play.

jblank74
09-25-08, 12:29 PM
I was with ya until I heard that there's the possibility to remake our favs using LBP. Think the entire super mario brothers (1) game, only done in LBP. Could be interesting. We'll see.

Ah, see, I didn't know that was possible. Still, I find it hard to believe this game would tear me away from Rock Band 2, Gears of War 2, Resistance 2, Madden '09, etc.

hodgen
09-25-08, 12:37 PM
Isnt that what we are paying the 60 bucks for...for THEM to create the games? :D All Joking aside I wonder what kind of content is going to be created. My understanding is 10 mins of game time play takes 1 1/2 hours of time to create. I'd much rather be spending my (rather LIMITED) time playing the game and not creating a level to play.

I thought this same thing until I actually tried it. I spent about an hour last night creating my own level and it was a blast. The available tools allow you to be pretty creative - already some of the shared levels are better then the tutorial levels that were included in the beta. For example, there is an uncharted level that was very well done.

HeadRusch
09-25-08, 12:47 PM
Maybe it is because I am an older gamer, but I just don't see the hype/appeal/draw of the game. So many good and interesting games coming out between now and the end of the year, this one just doesn't seem to be among them, for me at least.

Its certainly a unique title that is going to appeal to a select group of gamers, those mostly being Sony Diehards desperate for something new and exclusive to the system to play (ie: they'll hype anything made by Sony for Sony so long as its exclusive to Sony)....and then there are the types who like this kind of game, or who are intrigued by the ability to build your own levels. Its a game that looks like it has kid appeal...so if you have a PS3 and want something to fool around with your kids on that isn't some crazy violent game, this game could fit the bill.......

For the record its not my cup o' tea either, but there is a very cool concept that 4 people can 'create' levels in real-time at the same time. This to me seems like really good fun on paper, but the kind of thing that isn't quite as fun in real-life. Then again, I like my racing and shooting games so I'm clearly *not* the target Demo for this release.

I hope it does really well.....but to me, its a tech demo.

bassmonkeee
09-25-08, 12:50 PM
those mostly being Sony Diehards desperate for something new and exclusive to the system to play (ie: they'll hype anything made by Sony for Sony so long as its exclusive to Sony)....and then there are the types who like this kind of game, or who are intrigued by the ability to build your own levels.


Subtle Troll is subtle. So, now the hype for LBP is based on people simply being sycophantic for Sony. Mostly, anyway....

ndskyz
09-25-08, 12:56 PM
I thought this same thing until I actually tried it. I spent about an hour last night creating my own level and it was a blast. The available tools allow you to be pretty creative - already some of the shared levels are better then the tutorial levels that were included in the beta. For example, there is an uncharted level that was very well done.

Im not saying it wont be used or that the user content wont be good. What I am saying is..in the hour you took creating the level, could have been an hour playing another game. I personally am lucky if I get an hour of PS3 time a night. I dont want to spend that time creating a game for me to play. Just MHO. Im sure the game will sell and do well, and there will be those who do use the create your own level and those (ME) who will go online and download what someone else took time to create. :D

number1laing
09-25-08, 01:11 PM
Think the entire super mario brothers (1) game, only done in LBP. Could be interesting. We'll see.

I think that would be horrible, and a total waste of LBP's potential. Super Mario Bros. in particular excel because the levels are perfectly tuned and work around the game mechanics. Plopping down the levels in a game with totally different physics and totally different controls would be... missing the point.

Im not saying it wont be used or that the user content wont be good. What I am saying is..in the hour you took creating the level, could have been an hour playing another game. I personally am lucky if I get an hour of PS3 time a night. I dont want to spend that time creating a game for me to play. Just MHO. Im sure the game will sell and do well, and there will be those who do use the create your own level and those (ME) who will go online and download what someone else took time to create. :D

Or you could spend that hour playing other people's levels, which are all on the servers and free to play.

In any case, this is a ridiculous line of thinking. Do you know how SimCity came about? Will Wright was working on a game called Raid On Bungeling Bay and realized it was way more fun to actually work on the editor and design the levels than play them.

There are a lot of creative people out there, and this game appeals to those people. You may not be one of them. Jeez I don't understand people who are like, "omg I don't see the big deal". Well if you don't then don't play it. It's not like every game has to appeal to everyone. But I, personally, like the idea of a game that lets me download other people's levels AND make my own AND packs in a decent amount of 2D platforming that uses a modern system's computing abilities. There really are no games like it on the PS3 and 360, even if you take out all the creation tools.

bassmonkeee
09-25-08, 01:28 PM
In any case, this is a ridiculous line of thinking. Do you know how SimCity came about? Will Wright was working on a game called Raid On Bungeling Bay and realized it was way more fun to actually work on the editor and design the levels than play them.

There are a lot of creative people out there, and this game appeals to those people. You may not be one of them. Jeez I don't understand people who are like, "omg I don't see the big deal". Well if you don't then don't play it. It's not like every game has to appeal to everyone. But I, personally, like the idea of a game that lets me download other people's levels AND make my own AND packs in a decent amount of 2D platforming that uses a modern system's computing abilities. There really are no games like it on the PS3 and 360, even if you take out all the creation tools.

Your newsletter. I'd like to subscribe to it. kthxbye

ndskyz
09-25-08, 01:32 PM
Or you could spend that hour playing other people's levels, which are all on the servers and free to play.
.

Did you even read what YOU qouted? I said I would be (ME) one of the people who played other peoples creations. At any rate Im glad you used my post to get your rant off your chest. Hope you feel better.

hodgen
09-25-08, 01:36 PM
This thread is hilarious. Bottom line is the game is fun - surprisingly so, in fact. This comes from a guy who enjoys shooters before all else but is open to fun in all its forms.

jkoch6599
09-25-08, 01:37 PM
It's not like every game has to appeal to everyone. But I, personally, like the idea of a game that lets me download other people's levels AND make my own AND packs in a decent amount of 2D platforming that uses a modern system's computing abilities. There really are no games like it on the PS3 and 360, even if you take out all the creation tools.

Is the platforming fun? Is it as good as Mario and Crash?

I'm not interested in creating stuff, but I'd kill for a good old-school platforming game.

Is there going to be a demo?

hodgen
09-25-08, 01:41 PM
The platforming is pretty precise and is definitely fun. An element that is new to the platforming genre (in my experience at least) is the "grabbing and swinging" mechanic. Everything is momentum based, including swinging from point to point and it adds a lot to the gameplay.

Cygnus311
09-25-08, 01:48 PM
Oh my.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1031463

The "tech demo" knocks are just absolutley hilarious. If this were a black and brown FPS with a 50 level campaign plus the ability to build your levels, characters, enemies, environments, physics, sequences, and rules real-time however you want them without having to go into some advanced behind the scenes editor/modifier and share them freely with the world however you want it would be considered the greatest thing of all time by the "it's just a tech demo" crowd. :rolleyes:

Auditor_Kevin
09-25-08, 02:05 PM
I like it when other people do work for me. That's why I never order fajitas.

This game sounds like the video game version of fajitas.

Martez
09-25-08, 02:08 PM
I like it when other people do work for me. That's why I never order fajitas.

This game sounds like the video game version of fajitas.

That makes no sense. You're going to have tons of people making and rating levels for you, on top of the single-player campaign already in place; you don't have to create a level if you don't want to.

Auditor_Kevin
09-25-08, 02:09 PM
An element that is new to the platforming genre (in my experience at least) is the "grabbing and swinging" mechanic. Everything is momentum based, including swinging from point to point and it adds a lot to the gameplay.

http://brettduncan.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/pitfall.png

:D

Degenerazn
09-25-08, 02:12 PM
I'm buying this game because it looks like the Mrs. can get into it. I won't be spending anytime creating any levels of my own. I hope that there are enough levels in the game to warrant the $60 purchase. I also hope many of YOU will create levels for me.:)

hodgen
09-25-08, 02:17 PM
http://brettduncan.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/pitfall.png

:D

Haha - truly a classic!

talyler
09-25-08, 02:21 PM
I'm not excited for this game at all because I don't like Sim city and Viva Pinata type games. I know this is different but I'll still categorize it with those games until I play it. I'll rent it sometime.

_Avarice_
09-25-08, 02:24 PM
Not-so-subtle Troll is not-so-subtle. So, now the hype for LBP is based on people simply being sycophantic for Sony. Mostly, anyway....

Amended :D

Aristo7905
09-25-08, 02:29 PM
has anyone on here actually played the game? (or demo if available). Or has everyone only seen video's of gameplay. the game itself intrigues me, but i will probably be waiting for it to go on sale.. It has caught my attention, but not enough to buy it when it first comes out.

I know everyone is saying "create your own levels" or "play other's levels" but what exactly do you "PLAY" when your in the level.. not being negative, but i have not done to much reasearch on this game. What activites do you do, once the level is created. what actions do you do.. the only video i saw was from characters swinging and pushing objects.

thanks for any information


-J

Shape
09-25-08, 02:30 PM
The "tech demo" knocks are just absolutley hilarious. If this were a black and brown FPS with a 50 level campaign plus the ability to build your levels, characters, enemies, environments, physics, sequences, and rules real-time however you want them without having to go into some advanced behind the scenes editor/modifier and share them freely with the world however you want it would be considered the greatest thing of all time by the "it's just a tech demo" crowd. :rolleyes:

You mean like Far Cry 2?
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/17382/Far-Cry-2-Map-Editor-Video-Overview/

:)

hodgen
09-25-08, 02:47 PM
has anyone on here actually played the game? (or demo if available). Or has everyone only seen video's of gameplay. the game itself intrigues me, but i will probably be waiting for it to go on sale.. It has caught my attention, but not enough to buy it when it first comes out.

I know everyone is saying "create your own levels" or "play other's levels" but what exactly do you "PLAY" when your in the level.. not being negative, but i have not done to much reasearch on this game. What activites do you do, once the level is created. what actions do you do.. the only video i saw was from characters swinging and pushing objects.

thanks for any information


-J
Yes. For more information read the thread.

ludivigo
09-25-08, 03:01 PM
The Sim City comparison is very apt. It's just a game for a certain demographic that is currently under-represented.

Another way to look at it would be to compare it to You Tube. Some people like to watch videos, and some people get far more enjoyment out of making videos and reading the comments on their videos.

Or people who are into cars. Some people love to drive, others spend more time working on their cars making upgrades. You could say "I don't want to fix it, I just want to drive it." That's fine, but don't assume others don't enjoy the building, or creating.

instantpop
09-25-08, 03:07 PM
Its certainly a unique title that is going to appeal to a select group of gamers, those mostly being Sony Diehards desperate for something new and exclusive to the system to play (ie: they'll hype anything made by Sony for Sony so long as its exclusive to Sony)....and then there are the types who like this kind of game, or who are intrigued by the ability to build your own levels. Its a game that looks like it has kid appeal...so if you have a PS3 and want something to fool around with your kids on that isn't some crazy violent game, this game could fit the bill.......

For the record its not my cup o' tea either, but there is a very cool concept that 4 people can 'create' levels in real-time at the same time. This to me seems like really good fun on paper, but the kind of thing that isn't quite as fun in real-life. Then again, I like my racing and shooting games so I'm clearly *not* the target Demo for this release.

I hope it does really well.....but to me, its a tech demo.

^ This is the point where the thread goes downhill. ^

I'll take the three day suspension or whatever, Kyser, but some people around here are just plain old snarky *******s. I'm only going to like LBP because I am desperate for something good or because my kiddies want to play it? It's a tech demo? Gimme a break, man.

HeadRusch
09-25-08, 04:30 PM
You guys will do anything you possibly can to find a personal insult in anything I say huh...

Fanboys are drooling over it.
People who like platformers are excited about it.
ANd it looks like a game that you can play with your kids.


But you guys see:
"Only Fanboys and Kids will like it! BAN HIM!" :P

tgable
09-25-08, 04:33 PM
Isnt that what we are paying the 60 bucks for...for THEM to create the games? :D All Joking aside I wonder what kind of content is going to be created. My understanding is 10 mins of game time play takes 1 1/2 hours of time to create. I'd much rather be spending my (rather LIMITED) time playing the game and not creating a level to play.

You don't have to create anything, but you may enjoy the almost limitless levels that other create. I really enjoy the UT3 user created content and yet I have never made any.

People are failing to see the potential here, I'm sure it has to do with some wearing green goggles.

Martez
09-25-08, 04:38 PM
You guys will do anything you possibly can to find a personal insult in anything I say huh...

Fanboys are drooling over it.
People who like platformers are excited about it.
ANd it looks like a game that you can play with your kids.


But you guys see:
"Only Fanboys and Kids will like it! BAN HIM!" :P

Obviously people are going to twist your comments to their benefit, but the fact remains that you tend to act like a douche extraordinaire.

Slacker George
09-25-08, 04:39 PM
You guys will do anything you possibly can to find a personal insult in anything I say huh...

Fanboys are drooling over it.
People who like platformers are excited about it.
ANd it looks like a game that you can play with your kids.


But you guys see:
"Only Fanboys and Kids will like it! BAN HIM!" :PYeah, go back and read his post. We're not all desperate fanboys, just most of us. :rolleyes:

_Avarice_
09-25-08, 04:41 PM
Use the "ignore" feature and stop quoting it. That's the quickest way to make silly comments disappear.

bassmonkeee
09-25-08, 04:43 PM
You guys will do anything you possibly can to find a personal insult in anything I say huh...

Fanboys are drooling over it.
People who like platformers are excited about it.
ANd it looks like a game that you can play with your kids.


But you guys see:
"Only Fanboys and Kids will like it! BAN HIM!" :P


"those mostly being Sony Diehards desperate for something new and exclusive to the system to play"

It certainly doesn't require doing "anything I possibly can" to find an insult in that comment. It simply requires rudimentary language skills.

If you had posted in the first post:

"Fanboys are drooling over it.
People who like platformers are excited about it.
ANd it looks like a game that you can play with your kids."

I don't think anyone would have had a problem with your post. I just think you like the attention. :D

bassmonkeee
09-25-08, 04:45 PM
Use the "ignore" feature and stop quoting it. That's the quickest way to make silly comments disappear.


Well, to his credit, HeadTrauma is still not as bad as some that like to poop on everything in this forum. And, he did invoke Udo Dirkschneider on me one time--I just haven't decided if that goes into the plus, or minus, column yet.

jasnmb
09-25-08, 04:52 PM
You guys will do anything you possibly can to find a personal insult in anything I say huh...

Fanboys are drooling over it.
People who like platformers are excited about it.
ANd it looks like a game that you can play with your kids.


But you guys see:
"Only Fanboys and Kids will like it! BAN HIM!" :P

I'm no communication snob, but posting in a list format like you just did is much better than a paragraph. people don't tend to read paragraphs as well as lists.

move along people. I don't think HeadRusch meant any harm...just mis-communicated.

_Avarice_
09-25-08, 05:04 PM
And, he did invoke Udo Dirkschneider on me one time--I just haven't decided if that goes into the plus, or minus, column yet.

I'd like to help you, but have no idea what the hell that is.... :D

bassmonkeee
09-25-08, 05:16 PM
I'd like to help you, but have no idea what the hell that is.... :D

See, It's responses like this that make his addition to this forum a plus to my personal enjoyment. It's a quandary, really.

HeadRusch
09-25-08, 05:22 PM
http://www.cornmo.com/assets/image_upload/scorpions2.jpg

..and I raise you...a Rudolf...

(edited for more dramatic picture content...thats value-added kids)

Dball2323
09-25-08, 05:25 PM
See, It's responses like this that make his addition to this forum a plus to my personal enjoyment. It's a quandary, really.

Hey, it's Dennis Miller in disguise. jk You know LBP is the type of game that.....aaaahhhh.... forget it.

bassmonkeee
09-25-08, 05:26 PM
http://www.cornmo.com/assets/image_upload/scorpions2.jpg

..and I raise you...a Rudolf...

(edited for more dramatic picture content...thats value-added kids)

What are you, German?

Oh, and thanks for the first mask for my Sackboy. --Back on topic! You think I'm kidding about Attack of 80s Metal LBP level....

Tenkaipalm
09-25-08, 05:31 PM
From what I know about this game it seems a lot like Garry's Mod for Half-Life 2. Or rather, it'll appeal to that type of crowd. Looks solid, but I think it'll be a niche title that builds a good community and gets forgotten about by everyone else.

HeadRusch
09-25-08, 05:32 PM
What are you, German?

I'm an American mutt, just like most of the rest of us ;)


Oh, and thanks for the first mask for my Sackboy. --Back on topic! You think I'm kidding about Attack of 80s Metal LBP level....

You're welcome..play your kiddie-fanboy game in style if you gotta play at all, I think. Yes, thats bad sarcasm.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Firewire_02/sackboy_lbp.jpg

HeadRusch
09-25-08, 05:33 PM
From what I know about this game it seems a lot like Garry's Mod for Half-Life 2. Or rather, it'll appeal to that type of crowd. Looks solid, but I think it'll be a niche title that builds a good community and gets forgotten about by everyone else.

....there's plenty of space under the flame-retardant blanket, here I'll move over...

Abaddon
09-25-08, 06:01 PM
I don't think HeadRusch meant any harm...just mis-communicated.He meant to piss in our Wheaties. And has done so repeatedly in the past, with this game.

I'm all for moving on, but don't chide us for calling a spade a spade.

Degenerazn
09-25-08, 06:14 PM
He meant to piss in our Wheaties. And has done so repeatedly in the past, with this game.

I'm all for moving on, but don't chide us for calling a spade a spade.

He doesn't like the game. Big deal. In some aspects I could see how this game could be a failed concept. Creating levels would probably be fun for the first couple of weeks, but I tell ya, Sony better start hiring people to constantly pump out levels because sooner or later, you'll want to stop spending so much time creating the levels, and actually playing the game. I mean, try sitting 3 of your friends down and telling them to create a level, might be fun for the first hour but after that, not so much. I can't imagine 4 people spending hours creating level who aren't being paid. A game is meant to be played and enjoyed.

Ok, let the flaming begin.

bassmonkeee
09-25-08, 06:27 PM
He doesn't like the game. Big deal. In some aspects I could see how this game could be a failed concept. Creating levels would probably be fun for the first couple of weeks, but I tell ya, Sony better start hiring people to constantly pump out levels because sooner or later, you'll want to stop spending so much time creating the levels, and actually playing the game. I mean, try sitting 3 of your friends down and telling them to create a level, might be fun for the first hour but after that, not so much. I can't imagine 4 people spending hours creating level who aren't being paid. A game is meant to be played and enjoyed.

Ok, let the flaming begin.


Do the math--If you assume even 1000 people really dig making levels, no one will ever have to make a level, again. At 10 minutes per level, that's well over 150 hours. And, you have to assume the people who are really good at it and enjoy it will make multiple levels. And, I think it's safe to say that there isn't a game studio out there right now who won't even take a cursory look at the game creation tools and make levels when they are decompressing from hardcore coding? Who wants to see a Naughty Dog LBP level? I know I do.

So, my guess is that you'll be able to download a new LBP level every day for a year and never play the same level twice. Some will suck (like my aforementioned Attack of 80s Metal level), and some will be absolutely amazing. And, I bet at least one person is going to become "video game level creator 2.0" and actually get a job because of LBP.

I can tell you right now that they are going to sell a helluva lot of PSEyes in before Christmas.

Degenerazn
09-25-08, 06:49 PM
^ indeed. Best(yours) and worst(mine) case scenarios. I suppose we'll see in the upcoming months. But I really do hope this takes off. Its may be the only reason that we power up the PS3 other than my gf playing sudoku on it.

bassmonkeee
09-25-08, 07:01 PM
^ indeed. Best(yours) and worst(mine) case scenarios. I suppose we'll see in the upcoming months. But I really do hope this takes off. Its may be the only reason that we power up the PS3 other than my gf playing sudoku on it.

Some people say the glass is half full, some people say the glass is half empty.

I tend to think the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

tgable
09-25-08, 07:15 PM
From what I know about this game it seems a lot like Garry's Mod for Half-Life 2. Or rather, it'll appeal to that type of crowd. Looks solid, but I think it'll be a niche title that builds a good community and gets forgotten about by everyone else.

Garry's Mod isn't a game, or at least it wasn't when I tried it. There is nothing to compare to LBP, it's a paradigm changing game.

tgable
09-25-08, 07:19 PM
Impressions from about 3-4 hours of play. This is my first PS3 platformer of any kind (although I did play about 10 minutes of Ratchet & Clank that came with my PS3) so I don't have a lot of experience with these kinds of games.

Intro

Best. Intro. Ever. Lol. Loved it enough to give it its own comment section in these impressions..hehe.


Graphics & Load Times

Just like I had hoped. Textures are crisp and beautiful. The animation is awesome. I haven't noticed any serious bugs/glitches at all. The danger effects just have to be seen in real time. Even better than the vids I have seen.

The animations for the sackboys (or sackpersons as they callthem) are amazing. My daughter and I spend a good 15 minutes just playing around with emotions and arm moving

Everything seems to load at an ok pace. A couple of user made levels took a while to load but nothing compared to some other games. Could be some BIG load times for larger levels though. Will have to see come retail.

Sound

Love love love the sound effects. Perfect without being annoying. I espcially love the music. I can't wait for retail with more music/sounds to unlock.

The levels have a nice ambiance to them with the sounds on the ghost level being my fav so far. I had heard that main LBP theme so many times I thought I would be sick of it...but when it started up part way into a level I felt perfect.

Controls

Ok, as I said at the start...I don't have a lot of experience with platformers. With that being said, the controls came to me (and my daughter) quite naturally. The jumps were easy to do, grabbing on to stuff as well. Jumping between planes (forground/backgroud) is a pain in the butt though. My only real complaint is with that aspect of the game. Sometimes it forces you to go to the forground when trying to just push something. I wish that you only went from one to the other when YOU chose. Very minor complaint though.

Like others I was worried by the hectic style of the jumping in earlier vids. But if I can do it, anyone can. It really is not hard at all. You could pick up and play it without ever seeing this game or doing any tutorials.

Story Mode

My daughter and I played these levels together. We had a blast running around trying to find all the unlockables (still haven't unlocked them all) and the competative side of each of us quickly came out.

At first we were always rushing to be "first" to grab stuff. Then after some time we decided to just work together and that is when it got even better. We laughed, we got frustrated, we laughed some more, great fun.

The levels are short enough to not get boring or repetative, and still leave you wanting more. Just enough to give you a great feel for the game and then it's done and you are off to player created levels.

Creation Tutorials

We tried to do the tutorials together but the competition side of us came out again and we just got in eachothers way. So I let her do them while I helped with camera angles, zooming in, etc to make it easier.

The tutorials are perfect IMO. They show you exactly how to do many different tasks both through the sound of the naration, or the little video demo playing in the back. All without treatig you like a moron..hehe. Finishing gives you lots of great rewards, and stuff to make your own levels. Plus, just when I thought to mysel "ok ok this is a LOT of tutorials" they were done. Perfect.

I will probably pen out some ideas before I even think of making my opwn level. But I feel confident I can do the basics now at least after the tutorials.

Player Made Levels

I played about 12 different levels, including many of the ones highlighted here. Some were downright silly/short/useless. Some showed huge potential. Mostly they just gave me a lot of ideas for my own stuff.

The possibilities for this game will be endless....scary when you really see it in motion. I can't wait until peopel really get a handle on teh creation tools and start creating some masterpiece levels.

Online Play

I only tried online play once. It was pretty lagging AS people joined, but once in the level it was not too bad. The lag I did have was annoying enough though that I just went back to playing solo or co-op with my daughter. Going to buy a new controller when retail comes out so I can get my wife in on it too.

Overall

This beta solidified the game for me. I have wavered a few times over the last couple of months even though I pre-ordered it right away. Now I am confident that I will be playing this game for a very very long time.

Can't wait for retail!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12945579&postcount=5127

Nice impressions of the beta.

bassmonkeee
09-25-08, 07:26 PM
Nice impressions of the beta.

Obvious fanboy. :D

Notsobright
09-25-08, 08:01 PM
im gonna wait til you guys provide some feedback on here when the game comes out. then ill ask ya questions, and buy the game depends on what you early purchasers have to say :D

bgarner
09-25-08, 08:19 PM
Amazing how many people got sucked into arguing over this game.

It was obvious from title that it was meant to draw folks in for a big debate.

"Just what is Little Big Planet". For crying out loud, there is a whole discussion thread on page 1 and a quick search on the Playstation site or google, yahoo, whatever would tell you exactly what it is.

The mod should ban people that make up these ridiculous threads. All it does is get people arguing over nothing. If you like the game, you will most likely buy it. If you don't like, then you won't buy it.

number1laing
09-25-08, 10:35 PM
I can't imagine 4 people spending hours creating level who aren't being paid. A game is meant to be played and enjoyed.

You're not thinking about it right. As I pointed out, the line between creation and play can be very thin. You may not enjoy making levels yourself, but Media Molecule has put a lot of work into making LBP's level designer fun and easy. If someone gets into it, is it any different at all from "playing"?

Sony better start hiring people to constantly pump out levels because sooner or later, you'll want to stop spending so much time creating the levels, and actually playing the game.

Why do they have to do this? They don't do it for any other game. You do know the game ships with lots of levels, right?

Johnsteph10
09-25-08, 11:14 PM
I think the issues that people seem to have are related to the fact that every single PS3 exclusive title is hyped up beyond all reason.

It is at a fever pitch now because the PS3 desperately needs a quality exclusive title to draw people into the game side of the PS3.

It gets old and people are wisely skeptical.

ninjachicken
09-26-08, 12:37 AM
It is at a fever pitch now because the PS3 desperately needs a quality exclusive title to draw people into the game side of the PS3.

It gets old and people are wisely skeptical.


So what you're saying is that there are currently no quality exclusives on the PS3?

Guinn3sS
09-26-08, 12:52 AM
Why do I keep clicking on this thread?!?!? It keeps getting worse and worse......................... MOVE THE F ON!

ninjachicken
09-26-08, 01:15 AM
You want to know why some of us won't move on?

Because this is clearly stickied by a mod:

Playstation Area
This area is for the Playstation systems chat. If you are not an Playstation user, this is NOT the place for you. We expect to NOT SEE attacks made for from people who do not prefer this platform.


Yet, people who clearly don't prefer the Playstation come in here and troll off.

Guinn3sS
09-26-08, 01:17 AM
You want to know why some of us won't move on?

Because this is clearly stickied by a mod:




Yet, people who clearly don't prefer the Playstation come in here and troll off.

I agree... so why let these people that come in here to troll bother you? Read their post... laugh at them... and move on.

ninjachicken
09-26-08, 01:33 AM
I agree with you 100%


Just what IS Little Big Planet???
It IS possibly the GAME OF THE YEAR!!!

Slacker George
09-26-08, 01:34 AM
I think the issues that people seem to have are related to the fact that every single PS3 exclusive title is hyped up beyond all reason.Hyped beyond all reason? Or maybe we just get excited for a game that looks really great and that seems to bother certain people for some reason.

Johnsteph10
09-26-08, 09:10 AM
So what you're saying is that there are currently no quality exclusives on the PS3?

There are a few. Uncharted was really good.

Johnsteph10
09-26-08, 09:12 AM
Hyped beyond all reason? Or maybe we just get excited for a game that looks really great and that seems to bother certain people for some reason.

Yup.

I'm excited too but, like most things, I also remain skeptical.

When people refer to this game as a "life changing paradigm shift," they need to get out of the house more. :p

It is a game, people.

bassmonkeee
09-26-08, 09:28 AM
Yup.

I'm excited too but, like most things, I also remain skeptical.

When people refer to this game as a "life changing paradigm shift," they need to get out of the house more. :p

It is a game, people.


Hey, Genius--this is a video game forum. To describe LBP as a paradigm shift is entirely appropriate, in the context of video games. I don't think anyone would say that LBP is the most important thing in the world right now....

Funny how it's always the SAME people who think there are no good exclusive games on the PS3 and the same people who think everyone else is simply hyping up the good games out of desperation.

Cygnus311
09-26-08, 09:33 AM
Amazing how many people got sucked into arguing over this game.

It was obvious from title that it was meant to draw folks in for a big debate.

"Just what is Little Big Planet". For crying out loud, there is a whole discussion thread on page 1 and a quick search on the Playstation site or google, yahoo, whatever would tell you exactly what it is.

The mod should ban people that make up these ridiculous threads. All it does is get people arguing over nothing. If you like the game, you will most likely buy it. If you don't like, then you won't buy it.

Completely agree. Thread should be closed.

Tenkaipalm
09-26-08, 10:27 AM
Garry's Mod isn't a game, or at least it wasn't when I tried it. There is nothing to compare to LBP, it's a paradigm changing game.
One of the things Garry's mod allows you to do is create levels on the fly in an open world, using the game engine as a creation tool in itself. Isn't that what LBP essentially is? LBP may have a story mode game attached to it, but that's not the appeal/selling point of the game.

Chairman7w
09-26-08, 12:00 PM
I really do wish I had just Googled it. :)

tgable
09-26-08, 12:07 PM
One of the things Garry's mod allows you to do is create levels on the fly in an open world, using the game engine as a creation tool in itself. Isn't that what LBP essentially is? LBP may have a story mode game attached to it, but that's not the appeal/selling point of the game.

When I played with it, before it was for sale, it was just a big area that you could place crap in. There was no level or playing.

Anyhow they are still very different. Garry's mod is a separate product, LBP gives you everything in one box and it make the DLing and playing of player made levels simple.

bassmonkeee
09-26-08, 12:28 PM
I really do wish I had just Googled it. :)

*Shakes angry internet fist*

bplewis24
09-26-08, 12:58 PM
I think the issues that people seem to have are related to the fact that every single PS3 exclusive title is hyped up beyond all reason.

It is at a fever pitch now because the PS3 desperately needs a quality exclusive title to draw people into the game side of the PS3.

It gets old and people are wisely skeptical.

Dude you have hit this on the head right here. I can't believe people hype up a tech demo like Little Big Poop. It's obvious that it's sony fanboys that are starved for good quality games. I guess I would be too if i only had a PS3 and was deprived of gaming goodness. Thanks for keepin it real amongst all this fanboy chatter.

Brandon

bplewis24
09-26-08, 01:02 PM
Use the "ignore" feature and stop quoting it. That's the quickest way to make silly comments disappear.

Yeah just ignore me cause i'm speaking the TRUTH. First, $8 for 2 movies or a jetpax???!!!??? Now $60 for a tech demo of mario bros????!!!!!!?????? Is this even a debate anymore?!???!!

Brandon

PursuitGT
09-26-08, 01:06 PM
Yeah just ignore me cause i'm speaking the TRUTH. First, $8 for 2 movies or a jetpax???!!!??? Now $60 for a tech demo of mario bros????!!!!!!?????? Is this even a debate anymore?!???!!

Brandon

Xbox Fanboy!


Brandon

Bokchoy
09-26-08, 01:06 PM
Dude you have hit this on the head right here. I can't believe people hype up a tech demo like Little Big Poop. It's obvious that it's sony fanboys that are starved for good quality games. I guess I would be too if i only had a PS3 and was deprived of gaming goodness. Thanks for keepin it real amongst all this fanboy chatter.

Brandon

80% of the good games are shared by both consoles. PS3 and X360's exclusives match each other pound for pound. In fact, PS3 might even have the edge in this department.

Then there's that whole thing about free wireless online play, and not having to buy battery+charger.
Oh yeah, Blu-ray is pretty good too, isn't it?

X360 fanboys always get jealous and butthurt every time PS3 owners have another compelling title to be excited about. Maybe something to do with ZERO AAA exclusives coming out for X360 in 2008.

cruze808
09-26-08, 01:08 PM
Any one smell smoke...... oh sry just a flamer

smastroyin
09-26-08, 01:09 PM
nm...

Aletuner
09-26-08, 01:11 PM
Yeah just ignore me cause i'm speaking the TRUTH. First, $8 for 2 movies or a jetpax???!!!??? Now $60 for a tech demo of mario bros????!!!!!!?????? Is this even a debate anymore?!???!!

Brandon

WTF?? $8 for jetpax was a steal. Where else can you get so much fun for $8?!?? Well besides hiding stinkbombs at Home Depot but other than that you will get tons of play time from your $8 for the jetspax. It is not overrated. Why is this even a debate anymore?!??!?

Brandon

Cygnus311
09-26-08, 01:14 PM
Another tech demo moron. Just close the thread before it dies of stupidity.

Tenkaipalm
09-26-08, 01:39 PM
X360 fanboys always get jealous and butthurt every time PS3 owners have another compelling title to be excited about. Maybe something to do with ZERO AAA exclusives coming out for X360 in 2008.
I'm pretty sure you don't mean that... right?

Regardless, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand....

LBP is what it is. Some people will like it, some won't. Both groups should be able to voice their opinions without it devolving into fanboy banter, no?

tgable
09-26-08, 05:08 PM
Both groups should be able to voice their opinions without it devolving into fanboy banter, no?

Let us know when they actually play it, rather than voice their negative opinions about a game that isn't out.

Cygnus311
09-26-08, 06:04 PM
Yeah just ignore me cause i'm speaking the TRUTH. First, $8 for 2 movies or a jetpax???!!!??? Now $60 for a tech demo of mario bros????!!!!!!?????? Is this even a debate anymore?!???!!

Brandon

I'm confused, you bash LBP here but in the other LBP thread you praise it and seem impressed by the tetris machine (rightfully so).

I'm sorry, but anyone calling this game a mario bros. tech demo is downright laughable, ignorant, and probably trolling. Sure looks like a mario bros. tech demo huh?! http://www.mediamolecule.com/2008/09/25/inspiration-in-motion/

Yup! That's JUST like Mario Bros.

Tenkaipalm
09-26-08, 06:09 PM
Let us know when they actually play it, rather than voice their negative opinions about a game that isn't out.
I'll let you as soon as the people with positive opinions about a game that isn't out play it.

Cygnus311
09-26-08, 06:25 PM
Thousands and thousands of people are playing the game right now as well as many developers over the past couple months. The initial reactions have been mostly VERY positive. This whole notion that no one can have an opinion one way or the way on a game because they haven't played it yet is ridiculous. Stop trying to fool yourself. You really can at least kind of tell if a game will be good or not, and you know it.

We all have opinions of cars before driving them and just about everything else.

Slacker George
09-26-08, 06:38 PM
I think some of you need to check the batteries in your sarcasm detector. :)

bassmonkeee
09-26-08, 06:52 PM
I'll let you as soon as the people with positive opinions about a game that isn't out play it.

So, basically, this thread has now devolved to "I know you are, but what am I?"

Nice.

jojo311
09-26-08, 07:09 PM
I think some of you need to check the batteries in your sarcasm detector. :)

To lighten things up a little bit, here's a link about the creator of the smiley emoticon to distinguish serious posts & jokes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Fahlman

And for the truly nerdy: according to Google, this is one of the earliest posts in Usenet about emoticons:
http://groups.google.com/group/net.works/msg/35a7598e05d9a09b

And since I've already entered the realm of totally off-topic, for those interested in some trivia about Usenet, back in 2001, after acquiring DejaNews, Google had compiled a list they referred to as a '20 Year Usenet Timeline', which makes for a fairly interesting read:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html

bplewis24
09-26-08, 07:11 PM
I'm confused, you bash LBP here but in the other LBP thread you praise it and seem impressed by the tetris machine (rightfully so).

I'm sorry, but anyone calling this game a mario bros. tech demo is downright laughable, ignorant, and probably trolling. Sure looks like a mario bros. tech demo huh?! http://www.mediamolecule.com/2008/09/25/inspiration-in-motion/

Yup! That's JUST like Mario Bros.

I'm just doing my best xbot impersonation. :o That's about the equivalent of what qualifies for "opinions" from the xbox guys that troll these forums to quell anticipation for Sony exclusive games. You know, the ones that only fanboys "drool over" ;)

Sorry if I came off a little too authentic in that post and annoyed any members :) I'll be all over LBP on day one. My pre-order is secure.

Brandon

jasnmb
09-26-08, 07:15 PM
And since I've already entered the realm of totally off-topic...

while we're off-topic, The Office was great last night.

http://uploader.ws/upload/200809/kick.gif

Cygnus311
09-26-08, 07:33 PM
I'm just doing my best xbot impersonation. :o That's about the equivalent of what qualifies for "opinions" from the xbox guys that troll these forums to quell anticipation for Sony exclusive games. You know, the ones that only fanboys "drool over" ;)

Sorry if I came off a little too authentic in that post and annoyed any members :) I'll be all over LBP on day one. My pre-order is secure.

Brandon

I kinda figured. You're good at it though! You know how many posts there are JUST like that all over the webs.

Johnsteph10
09-26-08, 08:48 PM
I hope that you don't think I am "trolling" because I expressed my opinion.

In fact, unlike most of the posts here, I expressed it without bashing other people, calling other people names, etc.

The kind of behavior that has been exhibited in this thread certainly does not belong in the AV Science forum. Those that have been here for a while should really know better.


Edit: BTW, I can add WipeoutHD to the list of good games for the PS3. This game totally brings back the feel of the original Wipeout!

mbgonzomd
09-27-08, 07:42 AM
Yeah just ignore me cause i'm speaking the TRUTH. First, $8 for 2 movies or a jetpax???!!!??? Now $60 for a tech demo of mario bros????!!!!!!?????? Is this even a debate anymore?!???!!

Brandon

LOI. So you don't think the PS3 is any good? So you don't like jetpax? So you don't like Blurays? Let me guess, you don't even like the warhawk.

You, my freind, need to come out of your x-box closet and let your flaming PS3 persona shine. We all know it is there:p

bassmonkeee
09-27-08, 08:05 AM
LOI. So you don't think the PS3 is any good? So you don't like jetpax? So you don't like Blurays? Let me guess, you don't even like the warhawk.

You, my freind, need to come out of your x-box closet and let your flaming PS3 persona shine. We all know it is there:p


And, you my friend, need to remove that incredibly large fishhook from your mouth. Or, at least finish reading the thread so you don't look so silly responding to what has already been acknowledged as a joke post....

cooper1010
09-27-08, 08:20 AM
And, you my friend, need to remove that incredibly large fishhook from your mouth. Or, at least finish reading the thread so you don't look so silly responding to what has already been acknowledged as a joke post....

oh, the irony...

mbgonzomd
09-27-08, 08:22 AM
ROFLOI:) Internets r so confusing, aren't they?

bassmonkeee
09-27-08, 09:48 AM
D'oh! That's what I get for posting before coffee. Grumble, grumble.

joe_six_pack
09-27-08, 10:57 AM
this has to be one of the worst threads ever.

Edit: acutally those sales comparison threads & "power of the ps3" threads are a lot worse.

cooper1010
09-27-08, 11:04 AM
this has to be one of the worst threads ever.

Edit: acutally those sales comparison threads & "power of the ps3" threads are a lot worse.

well, now it is.

bassmonkeee
09-27-08, 12:09 PM
this has to be one of the worst threads ever.

Edit: acutally those sales comparison threads & "power of the ps3" threads are a lot worse.


This thread has nothing on a Good ol VincentNYC or GSlide thread. This one at least had a chance. :D

bplewis24
09-27-08, 12:26 PM
ROFLOI:) Internets r so confusing, aren't they?

D'oh! That's what I get for posting before coffee. Grumble, grumble.

:) Oh you guys :p

Brandon

like.no.other.
09-27-08, 12:35 PM
LOL. bplewis24 has always been PS3 guy. If you were here long enough, most of his post
are in the PS3, Blu-Ray, and Sony TV.

bplewis24
09-27-08, 12:38 PM
Shhhhhhhh...

;) :cool:

tgable
09-27-08, 01:26 PM
The power of the ignore list, bplewis24 is now silent like the other trolls.

mbgonzomd
09-27-08, 01:59 PM
Yeah bplewis24! You big flaming troll! You should of been in Lord of the Rings, because you are such a troll. They did have trolls in that movie, right? :)


In all seriousness, does anyone else think we take this stuff too seriously? I mean, come on, we are adults who spend a significant amount of time in the basement playing video games:rolleyes:. Then we spend a lot of time talking about it with internet friends. Does anyone get a chuckle out of this concept. OK, just me I guess.:D:p:( Move along, nothing to see here.

like.no.other.
09-27-08, 02:05 PM
the power of the ignore list, bplewis24 is now silent like the other trolls.

lmfao

cooper1010
09-27-08, 02:11 PM
I'm just doing my best xbot impersonation. :o That's about the equivalent of what qualifies for "opinions" from the xbox guys that troll these forums to quell anticipation for Sony exclusive games. You know, the ones that only fanboys "drool over" ;)

Sorry if I came off a little too authentic in that post and annoyed any members :) I'll be all over LBP on day one. My pre-order is secure.

Brandon

I kinda figured. You're good at it though! You know how many posts there are JUST like that all over the webs.

LOL. bplewis24 has always been PS3 guy. If you were here long enough, most of his post
are in the PS3, Blu-Ray, and Sony TV.

The power of the ignore list, bplewis24 is now silent like the other trolls.

wow. you are good at it. a confession and recognition by two other posters, and you still make someone's ignore list.

bplewis24
09-27-08, 03:16 PM
The power of the ignore list, bplewis24 is now silent like the other trolls.

oopsie :o

Brandon

mbgonzomd
09-27-08, 04:10 PM
Is there a way I can add myself to my own ignore list? Wait, that may not work out very well:).

sage11x
09-27-08, 10:52 PM
To lighten things up a little bit, here's a link about the creator of the smiley emoticon to distinguish serious posts & jokes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Fahlman



And for the truly nerdy: according to Google, this is one of the earliest posts in Usenet about emoticons:

http://groups.google.com/group/net.works/msg/35a7598e05d9a09b



And since I've already entered the realm of totally off-topic, for those interested in some trivia about Usenet, back in 2001, after acquiring DejaNews, Google had compiled a list they referred to as a '20 Year Usenet Timeline', which makes for a fairly interesting read:

http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html



Best off topic post ever. I learned something today :)