So I just got a copy of Sleeping Beauty....The movie looks INCREDIBLE. I tried to take some pictures...a few came out really good and a few others just don't have the same color as what I saw on the screen.

The movie also came with a DVD version of the film which I think is a fantastic move by Disney and something i'd like to see more of! The Dragons breathe is most definitely green where as in these pictures it appears to be white. You can see them all here....


http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100084&bgcolor=black&view=grid

You really need to see this thing on your tv screen. It looks like your TV is a sheet of paper upon which magic happens...Really awesome.

Wow!

What more can you say? Did they go back and re-do the animation?
Just goes to show that 2D animation does benefit the most from HD.
I am definitely picking this one up.

Man the Lion King is going to be so awesome.:eek:

So I just got a copy of Sleeping Beauty....The movie looks INCREDIBLE. I tried to take some pictures...a few came out really good and a few others just don't have the same color as what I saw on the screen.

The movie also came with a DVD version of the film which I think is a fantastic move by Disney and something i'd like to see more of! The Dragons breathe is most definitely green where as in these pictures it appears to be white. You can see them all here....http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100070&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=6

http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100070/DSC01490

http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100070/DSC01493&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100070/DSC01494&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100070/DSC01495&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100070/DSC01497&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100070/DSC01501&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100070/DSC01502&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100070/DSC01503&bgcolor=black

http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100070/DSC01504&bgcolor=black


You really need to see this thing on your tv screen. It looks like your TV is a sheet of paper upon which magic happens...Really awesome.
How is the 7.1 audio track?

I'm only on a 5.1 setup using an Onkyo 605 with Swans all around. I operate without a sub because of my condo living- Sounds awesome. Dialogue is on par with the DVD...a little more crisp and deep...not as shrill. The music sounds amazing. It was like being at a broadway show.

Cannot see the pics. :(

sorry click the link?

Not sure why they come up as question marks

Since they're not going for a film look, it better be amazingly clean instead. Looks good from those photos.

It looks like film to me...It is definitely not DNRed as fine detail is extremely visible.

Looks great. Just placed my preorder. Count me in for loving the DVD version that is included.

I'm only on a 5.1 setup using an Onkyo 605 with Swans all around. I operate without a sub because of my condo living- Sounds awesome. Dialogue is on par with the DVD...a little more crisp and deep...not as shrill. The music sounds amazing. It was like being at a broadway show.
Thanks, I look forward to watching this with the wife and daughter.

added a few more....my filter on the camera is really sucking the green and yellow out of the picture so I apologize for that. The picture is a lot richer looking in person.

Wow... I can't wait for this. I typically prefer the newer releases (Beauty and the Beast, would love an HD Hunchback), but in this case I'm really glad this is their first Blu-ray.

It should really take advantage of the new format.

Im just upset at the snails pace disney is releasing these Classics at....

I will be there first day to pick this one up. The bonus inclusion of the DVD makes this an even sweeter deal. I much prefer this than to the Digital copies...

How'd you get it now? It aint supposed to be out til next month. :confused:

Wolfie

How'd you get it now? It aint supposed to be out til next month. :confused:

Wolfie

Except when you live in NYC....the street date rules never apply...Most of the stores have all the releases up to Oct. 14th on the shelves.

Since it comes with a DVD, it would have been awesome if Disney only published this release. It would have been a great push for the format.

Since it comes with a DVD, it would have been awesome if Disney only published this release. It would have been a great push for the format.

That would lead to many people returning it wondering why Discs 1 and 2 don't play in their DVD player and how they can talk to Sleeping Beauty with their DVD player. Not a good idea.

So I just got a copy of Sleeping Beauty....The movie looks INCREDIBLE. I tried to take some pictures...a few came out really good and a few others just don't have the same color as what I saw on the screen.

The movie also came with a DVD version of the film which I think is a fantastic move by Disney and something i'd like to see more of! The Dragons breathe is most definitely green where as in these pictures it appears to be white. You can see them all here....


http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100084&bgcolor=black&view=grid

You really need to see this thing on your tv screen. It looks like your TV is a sheet of paper upon which magic happens...Really awesome.

Have you seen any of the trailers for Sleeping Beauty from a few months ago? Can you give a brief opinion of how the BD compares to those trailers?

Brandon

Have you seen any of the trailers for Sleeping Beauty from a few months ago? Can you give a brief opinion of how the BD compares to those trailers?

Brandon

Yeah it looks quite different than that...The colors are a lot deeper and have less of a white haze running through them if that makes any sense. It is also much sharper...but not over-sharpened. The film looks so pristine and incredible that any digital artifact or marks on the film would stand out like a sore thumb.

It truly looks like a childrens book. And the small amount of grain adds a texture that makes the animation appear like it's on paper rather than an LCD TV.

Very cool stuff and I was very hesitant to pick this one up again.

id also like to note that the menu does not change to the weather in your hometown...it changes based on which Disney Park you live closest too. So my weather comes up as Orlando's...

wow, and here we were all underwhelmed by what disney showed on the trailer on their blu-ray movies.

your pics showed much better quality video than the trailer did.

2.35:1 or 2.55:1 aspect ratio?

Don't forget that Sleeping Beauty is done on a 70mm film, which means it has close to IMAX quality. It's also Disney's first movie on 70mm as well, a good candidate for their first Blu-ray release.
Actually it's 8-perf 35mm, so not quite. And nothing is close to IMAX. :p

Those images look fantastic!

Yeah it looks quite different than that...The colors are a lot deeper and have less of a white haze running through them if that makes any sense. It is also much sharper...but not over-sharpened. The film looks so pristine and incredible that any digital artifact or marks on the film would stand out like a sore thumb.

It truly looks like a childrens book. And the small amount of grain adds a texture that makes the animation appear like it's on paper rather than an LCD TV.

Very cool stuff and I was very hesitant to pick this one up again.

Thank you.

Brandon

2.35:1 or 2.55:1 aspect ratio?
It's supposed to be 2.55:1 and it's also what the back of the box says.

2.35:1 or 2.55:1 aspect ratio?IIRC, Disney's archivist said 2.55:1.

wow, and here we were all underwhelmed by what disney showed on the trailer on their blu-ray movies.

your pics showed much better quality video than the trailer did.

Same here. Saw the commercial in HD on tv the other night and was not impressed. Definitely picking this up now.

Thanks for posting the pics

Super Technirama 70 simply means the 70mm prints used in the theatrical showings were made through optical enlargement, but it was still shot on 8-perf 35mm.

The actual video measures 2.40:1

No...I just did some preliminary measurements of the screen caps provided and I'm getting roughly 2.55:1 as was expected. :)

I used the actual DVD version video frame grab. Your result may vary.
The old DVD? Because that one is incorrect, which was a big point with this new restoration, that they went back to the original negatives to do a full 2.55:1 transfer.

Man oh man...mine arrives tomorrow can't wait!

Wow. 2.55:1 2D animation just looks amazing.

Great article on Super Technirama 70 is here with pictures of the camera's used. http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/Widescreen/wingtr4.htm

I used the actual DVD version video frame grab. Your result may vary.

Even if it was the new DVD that doesn't mean the aspect ratios would be identical. I have only heard that the BD would be 2.55:1 which it appears that it is, at least from the screenshots that have been posted.

I have this preordered through Amazon, so I won't get it early, but I hope to have it within a day or two of the release date. It is difficult to wait after reading this thread!

It looks like they reanimated the whole flick. And for some reason i think they did.

Can't wait to get this--I have always loved the animation style on this one.

It looks like they reanimated the whole flick. And for some reason i think they did.
They didn't re-photograph all the cels; the process they used, as far as I know, basically involves them doing incredibly accurate stabilization on the telecined material and then freezing the background layer. They then cut holes in this frozen background to allow the moving areas (characters etc) to show through. At least, this is what I've been told and what it looks like.

If you watch Bambi on DVD, you can actually see the workings of this process; objects seem to "drift" position slightly when things are unfrozen. A similar technique was also done (very poorly, without the stabilization) on the BD release of "Dragon's Layer", which looks awful because of it.

So I just got a copy of Sleeping Beauty....The movie looks INCREDIBLE. I tried to take some pictures...a few came out really good and a few others just don't have the same color as what I saw on the screen.

The movie also came with a DVD version of the film which I think is a fantastic move by Disney and something i'd like to see more of! The Dragons breathe is most definitely green where as in these pictures it appears to be white. You can see them all here....


http://gallery.me.com/mpalmieri809#100084&bgcolor=black&view=grid

You really need to see this thing on your tv screen. It looks like your TV is a sheet of paper upon which magic happens...Really awesome.

I've really had high hopes for this flick on BluRay and it sounds like my expectation have been easily met.Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your copy.:)

Seeing those screen caps just makes me so sad they aren't making any more hand drawn feature films...

Seeing those screen caps just makes me so sad they aren't making any more hand drawn feature films...

Aren't they doing Princess and the Frog? Even though I believe there will be "some" computer enhancement.

Full 1080 blu-ray screenshots (http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=895) (clicking "zoom")

:eek::eek::eek:

Just a note...Blu-News mentioned that their review would go live today. It hasn't yet...keep an eye on it.

Full 1080 blu-ray screenshots (http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=895) (clicking "zoom")

:eek::eek::eek:

Those pics are jpeg and have jpeg compression artifacts in them...Look at the bird as an example so not much use as a guide to image quality.

Those pics are jpeg and have jpeg compression artifacts in them...Look at the bird as an example so not much use as a guide to image quality.
The bird? It's been a long day...I don't see a bird.

Edit: Never mind, I opened my eyes.

Those pics are jpeg and have jpeg compression artifacts in them...Look at the bird as an example so not much use as a guide to image quality.
Not true. Taking into account the compression artifacts from saving as JPEG (and for Web use, no less), these caps still look incredible. Just compare those to the trailers we've been seeing in Disney's previous BDs. The image of the cottage is spectacular, the colors so rich and balanced and details resolved.

Anywho, OP, with the exception of the Godfather trilogy, where'd you get your films so early?

Not true. Taking into account the compression artifacts from saving as JPEG (and for Web use, no less), these caps still look incredible. Just compare those to the trailers we've been seeing in Disney's previous BDs. The image of the cottage is spectacular, the colors so rich and balanced and details resolved.

Anywho, OP, with the exception of the Godfather trilogy, where'd you get your films so early?

My point is you can't tell how the Blu Ray is really going to look from those screencaps if the screencaps have JPEG compression errors in them....They should have used PNG....So yes it is true what i am saying.

They didn't re-photograph all the cels; the process they used, as far as I know, basically involves them doing incredibly accurate stabilization on the telecined material and then freezing the background layer. They then cut holes in this frozen background to allow the moving areas (characters etc) to show through. At least, this is what I've been told and what it looks like.

If you watch Bambi on DVD, you can actually see the workings of this process; objects seem to "drift" position slightly when things are unfrozen. A similar technique was also done (very poorly, without the stabilization) on the BD release of "Dragon's Layer", which looks awful because of it.


Are you sure about this? I have a very hard time believing that.

My point is you can't tell how the Blu Ray is really going to look from those screencaps if the screencaps have JPEG compression errors in them....They should have used PNG....So yes it is true what i am saying.

You can still get a very good idea of the quality, JPEG or not. Looking at those JPEGs, I am very impressed! :eek:

Oh lordy, those caps look amazing. This jumped up to my number 1 top-awaited Blu-Ray... Sorry Iron Man!

Yes, disregarding the rather extreme jpeg compression, it does look fantastically detailed and sharp. Much better than previous efforts on DVD, as despite similar digital looks, the line art on some of them has still felt a bit fuzzy (of course it's possible that's entirely due to the higher resolution source and presentation here.)

In any case I hope they put down as much work on the other titles, doing entirely new restorations for the ones that need it. Particularly I wonder if they will (or even can) go back to the original negatives for Snow White, as the version that was on DVD was made through three different restorations on top of each other. They did a film restoration in 1987, then they scanned that one and restored it digitally in 1993, and then in 2001 they used those digital files to do further enhancements. I'm sure scanning technology and digital processing must have improved in the 15 years since then.

The captures look stunning even in lossy jpeg. I'm worried about the kind of motion artifacts Lyris described though. Is the grain frozen or does it move naturally?

Can someone let us know if Grand Canyon is in HD??

The captures look stunning even in lossy jpeg. I'm worried about the kind of motion artifacts Lyris described though. Is the grain frozen or does it move naturally?
As lyris mentioned the side-effects are mostly noticeable when the stabilization isn't good enough. Bambi in particular was not a great release, as it had a fair share of problems. Both the aforementioned issue and trailing/smearing during pans, as well as a poor grain-reduction algorithm used on moving objects where some, but not all, grain was removed, and what was left was updated infrequently and looked very odd.

In later restorations they removed the grain more or less completely and they looked much better. Stabilization seemed to also have been improved as virtually nothing of the drifting effect could be seen. At least not in the newer films like Lady and the Tramp, so I don't think we'll have to worry about that here.

As lyris mentioned the side-effects are mostly noticeable when the stabilization isn't good enough. Bambi in particular was not a great release, as it had a fair share of problems. Both the aforementioned issue and trailing/smearing during pans, as well as a poor grain-reduction algorithm used on moving objects where some, but not all, grain was removed, and what was left was updated infrequently and looked very odd.

In later restorations they removed the grain more or less completely and they looked much better. Stabilization seemed to also have been improved as virtually nothing of the drifting effect could be seen. At least not in the newer films like Lady and the Tramp, so I don't think we'll have to worry about that here.

Why does Disney even go through this weird process? Why not just a restoration and 4K scan or something?

Because they want to get rid of the grain to sell more discs, or because they see the painted cels and not the film as the artistic intent, or possibly a combination.

Regardless, this is my all time favorite of the Disney Fairy Tales. Beauty and the Beast is my second.

Sleeping Beauty is the first film I remember seeing as a child in a movie theater and that was in 1959.

This film has been pre-orderd on Amazon since March of this year. I am truly looking forward to this.

Looks like a must own to me, if you like Disney animation.

That would lead to many people returning it wondering why Discs 1 and 2 don't play in their DVD player and how they can talk to Sleeping Beauty with their DVD player. Not a good idea.

It would have also driven up the price of the DVD edition.

Plus, I would get pissed every time I would think of the catalog titles that didn't get BD-50s because Disney took up millions of them for SB, many of which wouldn't get played.

Wow what an improvement. Can't wait to get this in my grubby little hands.

What subtitles does it have?
Thanks

Could you check if it is region locked or not?
I would prefer to order the US version but I have a region B machine.

Because they want to get rid of the grain to sell more discs, or because they see the painted cels and not the film as the artistic intent, or possibly a combination.

It's a weird grey area when it comes to cell animation VS live action film. I think your assumptions are probably pretty close to the truth.

The captures look stunning even in lossy jpeg. I'm worried about the kind of motion artifacts Lyris described though. Is the grain frozen or does it move naturally?
Oh, wait wait, I've not seen the disc yet! :)
Well, that's not totally true, they showed us a sample clip of the beta disc projected at the last BDA Press Conference. But people here own the actual BD in their home so ask them.

From what I've seen/understand, the grain is basically gone completely. There don't seem to be any artefacts left over from its removal.

Personally I think it looks astonishingly good, but not filmic. I can't wait to get it.

Are you sure about this? I have a very hard time believing that.
How come?

I can't say for sure that they'll have used this process on Sleeping Beauty, but it's absolutely been used on Bambi; it's evident by just watching it. It'd make sense for the same process to be used, because it now seems to work very well for the look they want.

The disc will be released next week.

thanyou heaps for posting the pics, love it when people do this!!!

As expected, it's Region Locked (http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=50447&st=1500&p=1174325&#entry1174325).

As expected, it's Region Locked (http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=50447&st=1500&p=1174325&#entry1174325).Um, isn't a worldwide release? Region coding doesn't really matter when it's the same release everywhere.

True, but it's released a month or two later in other regions, and as far as I can tell doesn't have the bonus DVD either. It's also a bit cheaper to import. ;)

Except when you live in NYC....the street date rules never apply...Most of the stores have all the releases up to Oct. 14th on the shelves.

I'll be in NYC this weekend. Are you telling me I can get all of the movies I'm waiting for through 10/14? Here's my list (up until 10/14):

Sleeping Beauty
Young Frankenstein
The 7th Voyage of Sinbad
The Omen
Ultimate Matrix
Poltergeist
Casino

If we're going to 10/21 (could 10/21 be available by then?), I add:

Kiss of the Spider Woman
The 5 James Bond movies
Ghostbusters

Can you tell me at which store I can get all of these?

All the knockoffs from Disney as far as figurines have her in a pink dress. If you have any knowledge of the story and seen the original film the dress ended up blue. I suspect they wanted to differentiate her blue gown from Cinderella's which if you look at the original film was silver. Later renditions were colored blue. Anyone with more knowledge please correct me if I am wrong. But any Disney Princess Aura is in the pink gown and that is just wrong. I am a stickler for details.

I'm only on a 5.1 setup using an Onkyo 605 with Swans all around. I operate without a sub because of my condo living- Sounds awesome.

Congrats on getting it early but that has to suck. :(
So all of your BD movie watching it without any sub at all? There has to be some better solution for this without bothering the neighbors too much.

Specs + some more shots;



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Thanks House. Time to announce the specs to my friends. Is it Region Locked ?

Yes, it is. Hard locked to A.

The backgrounds look so damn good. It's too bad Disney only used the Technirama process twice.

Framing looks too tight IMO, a lot of scenery looks cut off. Should have opened it up a little more to 2.35:1, or maybe 2.20:1 (imdb says it was also shown in these aspect ratios). Very nice looking otherwise.

Framing looks too tight IMO, a lot of scenery looks cut off. Should have opened it up a little more to 2.35:1, or maybe 2.20:1 (imdb says it was also shown in these aspect ratios). Very nice looking otherwise.

What are you talking about? They opened it up to 2.5:1, showing the complete negative. There is absolutely nothing cut off.

Thanks House, these grabs look amazing. Love the extra wide scope, as well.

I could have sworn that blu-news stated somewhere that their review would be up by now.

What are you talking about? They opened it up to 2.5:1, showing the complete negative. There is absolutely nothing cut off.

Really? To me, it looks like some of the stuff might have extended into the black bar areas. Like in the 2nd shot, the cutoff solders and their flags, and the tops of the buildings. I would think they were fully drawn. It doesn't say anywhere if the 2.35:1 and 2.20:1 presentations were opened or cropped.

Is Amazon the only vendor including a DVD disc with the BD release? I can't see this advertised on any of the other big name stores.

Really? To me, it looks like some of the stuff might have extended into the black bar areas. Like in the 2nd shot, the cutoff solders and their flags, and the tops of the buildings. I would think they were fully drawn. It doesn't say anywhere if the 2.35:1 and 2.20:1 presentations were opened or cropped.
From Richard Harris:
TLA was a format that was "croppable."

The photographed image most likely simply runs out at the edges, and was cropped to create 2.35 for 35mm and 2.21 for 70.

The point is that there has always been a bit more information, and that is what is being exposed for the first time in this release on home video.

I have great faith that things are being handled correctly, and can confirm that there is no guessing going on with SB.

A Q & A with the archivist responsible for the work will go on line closer to the release date.
And later in the thread:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/3424234-post161.html

The only cropping done for 2.55:1, essentially, was to remove unfinished/uncolored artwork from the edges of the actual cels. The 2.55:1 image as seen is exactly what was on the original film.

All the knockoffs from Disney as far as figurines have her in a pink dress. If you have any knowledge of the story and seen the original film the dress ended up blue. I suspect they wanted to differentiate her blue gown from Cinderella's which if you look at the original film was silver. Later renditions were colored blue. Anyone with more knowledge please correct me if I am wrong. But any Disney Princess Aura is in the pink gown and that is just wrong. I am a stickler for details.

Hello, little girl. You sure do know your princesses!

More evidence that the framing is being opened up with the Blu-ray's 2.55:1 AR:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/3440830-post212.html

From Richard Harris:

And later in the thread:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/3424234-post161.html

The only cropping done for 2.55:1, essentially, was to remove unfinished/uncolored artwork from the edges of the actual cels. The 2.55:1 image as seen is exactly what was on the original film.

Interesting. Thanks for the info. Not what I expected from an animation.

Specs + some more shots;

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Thanks for the info, House. Much appreciated as always...

It is very interesting indeed to see a DTS-HD MA from Disney - especially because this is a Platinum title with many more to follow (so we may expect DTS-HD MA from now on at least for these releases...)

About the 5.1 info - is this just a read-out error on part of your application or is it really NOT remixed in 7.1?!?

All the knockoffs from Disney as far as figurines have her in a pink dress. If you have any knowledge of the story and seen the original film the dress ended up blue. I suspect they wanted to differentiate her blue gown from Cinderella's which if you look at the original film was silver. Later renditions were colored blue. Anyone with more knowledge please correct me if I am wrong. But any Disney Princess Aura is in the pink gown and that is just wrong. I am a stickler for details.

Really? It's been a LOOONG time since I saw the film, but I thought the fairies (?) were changing her dress from blue to pink back and forth up until the final credits and therefore never declared a "victor" color. ^_^

About the 5.1 info - is this just a read-out error of your application or is it really NOT remixed in 7.1?!?

Yes, it's a limitation of BDInfo - the DTS-HD MA track is 7.1.

Hello, little girl. You sure do know your princesses!

Nope. I know the film and what Disney marketing has done in the last ten years or so with the marketing of the figurines, and storybooks.;) If you can find a figurine in a blue dress you are lucky, it might even be collectible. It is true that at the end of the film while the heroine and hero are dancing in the clouds her dress changes from blue to pink. As a collector, as I said before, anything after 1990 you will be hard pressed to find her gown in blue.

And yes, I do know my princesses, and a few wicked queens in my time. A very big LOL.

Congrats on getting it early but that has to suck. :(
So all of your BD movie watching it without any sub at all? There has to be some better solution for this without bothering the neighbors too much.

I used to own an SVS. This week i decided to upgrade my surround system. I have an HSU STF2 on the way, An Onkyo 805(which i got for a steal), and some cheap Bose to see how I like 7.1.

I'm thinking that the sub will have to be kept pretty tame. I bought one of those grammas to throw under it. But as you can see from the attached photo the hardwood floors really don't help matters much. I'm hoping some near-field placement will give me some BANG at a moderate level.
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I am hoping to find a happier medium this weekend though!

I just screened this one last night. I enjoyed it very much and thought the transfer was top notch considering its age. It holds up very well on the big screen. Looking forward to some of the other Disney Classics to hit BD.

Hello,

Nobody knows if the canadian version of Sleeping Beauty is region free, unlike the US one which is locked :( ?
Or if somebody has the back cover, it will be nice ;)

Thanks :)

Does this movie has a Spanish language track or subtitles ?

Does this movie has a Spanish language track or subtitles ?

No, there is just Spanish subs for the Bonus, but just english audio and english subs for the film :(

hello,

nobody knows if the canadian version of sleeping beauty is region free, unlike the us one which is locked :( ?

Thanks :)

? :)

We are having a Sleeping Beauty party... :D

Thank you Disney! I can buy this Blu-ray since it includes the DVD also. Otherwise, it's DVD for me. Thank you!!!

John

Hello,

Nobody knows if the canadian version of Sleeping Beauty is region free, unlike the US one which is locked :( ?
Or if somebody has the back cover, it will be nice ;)

Thanks :)

Disney usually has the exact same discs in Canada as the US, so it's got a 99% chance of being region locked if it is in the US. In fact, Disney usually doesn't even make bilingual packaging for Canada, they'll simply stick a sticker on the front that says "Version Francais inclus".

I've been waiting for this since I heard it was going to be released. I mean, how bad of a movie can it be where a fairy princess gets a little prick on her 16th birthday? :p Hopefully other Disney Classics will follow soon.

Disney usually has the exact same discs in Canada as the US, so it's got a 99% chance of being region locked if it is in the US. In fact, Disney usually doesn't even make bilingual packaging for Canada, they'll simply stick a sticker on the front that says "Version Francais inclus".

Ok, thank you for your answer :)
It's just we know that the BD-Live is not included, so so people say it will maybe be region free, it's just i wanted to know ^^
But normally, someone will tell me that today :)

Huh? Canada isn't getting BD-Live for this disc? Didn't other titles include the BD-Live functionality for all of North America?

All the knockoffs from Disney as far as figurines have her in a pink dress. If you have any knowledge of the story and seen the original film the dress ended up blue. I suspect they wanted to differentiate her blue gown from Cinderella's which if you look at the original film was silver. Later renditions were colored blue. Anyone with more knowledge please correct me if I am wrong. But any Disney Princess Aura is in the pink gown and that is just wrong. I am a stickler for details.

Princess Aurora at Disney Worlds have always been wearing pink dress.

Princess Aurora at Disney Worlds have always been wearing pink dress.

Hell at this point just bring on the blu-ray. :D I am still shocked nobody has reviewed this yet.

Reviewers...anything yet? Tomorrow is release day and no one has this besides a few people who managed to pick it up at stores that leaked it early.

A rental for me as I'm curious as to the quality. I really haven't bought many animated BDs. No kids, no replay value for me per se.

Congrats on getting it early but that has to suck. :(
So all of your BD movie watching it without any sub at all? There has to be some better solution for this without bothering the neighbors too much.

The only one I know is to use something like the ButtKicker system on a isolated platform. That is what I've had to do living in a Condo. There is a transducer section here on AVS about doing it.

The only one I know is to use something like the ButtKicker system on a isolated platform. That is what I've had to do living in a Condo. There is a transducer section here on AVS about doing it.

I second that. When I'm watching movies while my daughter is sleeping I kick the butt kicker up a notch and turn off the sub.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=555&show=review


Many a Blu-ray fan have been salivating for classic hand-drawn Disney animated features in high definition. That trend has begun with a bang in Sleeping Beauty. The film is renown for its extensive attention to detail, and the many resources it took to maintain that level of quality. It showed beyond the shadow of a doubt that animation is an art form, and not a genre, but merely a medium in which to tell a cinematic story. Never was there a film like it before, or since. The Blu-ray release shows just how lush hand-drawn feature films can be in high definition. Boasting incredible picture and excellent sound, Sleeping Beauty has set high marks for Pinocchio and all the films to follow after it on BD. This is a must-own title, and receives my highest recommendation!

i guess even after seeing all the commercials and reviews, I don't really get what the deal is with tthis movie. any explanation would be good.

i guess even after seeing all the commercials and reviews, I don't really get what the deal is with tthis movie. any explanation would be good.
You've never seen Sleeping Beauty? And you don't know what it's about?:confused:

You don't live in the US do you?
She's one of the Disney Princesses, one of the first which makes this title more important for Disney fans. Although there are much better characters than Aurora...cough Ariel. It's kind of like a little fable(well it is an actual fairy tale after all). Very fantasy oriented with a witch and a dragon, pretty cool.

Disney Animation has always been know as the top dog in the animation world. I never knew why, but after seeing the screen caps from blu-ray. com the line work, textures and compositions look amazing. That looks so much better than CG work, I'm all excited about this now.

The movie doesn't look 50 years old. What does Disney Keep the prints in? A friggin time machine? I mean wow. I am definitely picking this up. I can't wait for the Lion King(it's going to be so kick ass).

Bottom Line - It's Disney Animation in HD, and that's a really big deal for film fans.

i'd like to see disney put snow white on bluray

i thought it would have been disney's first animation release in high def given it's historical importance (first feature length disney animation) but they decided on sleeping beauty instead

With an aspect ratio of 2.55, is it possible that Sleeping Beauty is the widest scope presentation of any animated feature -- 2D or 3D? This is impressive, given the vintage of the film. Sounds like a superb restoration effort that'll be a visual and aural feast on my front pj scope setup.

Isn't this different than films like Cars, Rat etc? How does this film stack with those for PQ?

Isn't this different than films like Cars, Rat etc? How does this film stack with those for PQ?
Everything is hand drawn and all the colors are real. The line work looks great and the detail looks amazing. The 50 year old textures look much better than CG ones.

So depending on your tastes, a lot better than cars or rat.

i guess even after seeing all the commercials and reviews, I don't really get what the deal is with tthis movie. any explanation would be good.

I'm a big believer in personal taste and cel animated classic films certainly won't appeal to everyone. However, Sleeping Beauty is a piece of cinematic art and cinematic history. It's an important film on a multitude of levels. Now, for the uninitiated that might not mean much and it's not entertainment in the sense of Cars, Toy Story, Wall-E, etc., but it is a wonderful film and its a terrific presentation in hi-def on BD. At the very least it's worth a rental to experience a piece of hand-crafted excellence even if you don't make it through the entire film.

The movie doesn't look 50 years old. What does Disney Keep the prints in? A friggin time machine? I mean wow. I am definitely picking this up. I can't wait for the Lion King(it's going to be so kick ass).
The Lion King looks amazing from what I've seen.

http://www.lyris-lite.net/disney%20platinum%20blu.mp4 (Shhh!) ;)

i'd like to see disney put snow white on bluray

i thought it would have been disney's first animation release in high def given it's historical importance (first feature length disney animation) but they decided on sleeping beauty instead

Most likely Sleeping Beauty will look a lot better than Snow White or Pinocchio due to it's larger budget (It almost bankrupted Disney after making back only half it's cost in initial release. Adjusted for inflation, Snow White cost only half as much to make), longer development window (They recorded the voices for the film in 1952 and it wasn't release until '59!), more detailed backgrounds, and much bigger negative. Still, I'll be interested to see how much detail Disney can pull out of these classics. I'm really interested in Lady and the Tramp. :-)

I guess just looking at screen captures one can note the differences. Thanks to all folks who have contributed to this thread. While I don't own lots of these films since I don't have kids and I wouldn't watch them much, I still like to check out high quality BDs! :)

i'd like to see disney put snow white on bluray

i thought it would have been disney's first animation release in high def given it's historical importance (first feature length disney animation) but they decided on sleeping beauty instead

Snow White is coming next year. They didn't bring it first because they have their rotating "Disney Vault" system.

With an aspect ratio of 2.55, is it possible that Sleeping Beauty is the widest scope presentation of any animated feature -- 2D or 3D? This is impressive, given the vintage of the film. Sounds like a superb restoration effort that'll be a visual and aural feast on my front pj scope setup.
Lady and the Tramp is also 2.55:1, and there are probably some other early CinemaScope films as well, but I've never heard of anything wider.

While I don't own lots of these films since I don't have kidsThat's no excuse! :D

Argh! Local BV store only received 1 for sale, none for rental. Oh well!

don't get me wrong, i like that film but I wasn't sure what made it so "super" special. I saw on the commercial that the film cell is larger.....?

The Lion King looks amazing from what I've seen.
The nice thing about the CAPS-animated titles is of course that there's no need to worry as they should look as perfect as any of the Pixar films, without any manipulation necessary. Probably not much need to ever buy them again either, as I believe the final output resolution was only slightly higher than 1080p.

And after seeing the quote "This DVD is definitely a must have" before showing scenes of The Little Mermaid in that presentation, I'm again reminded of the less-than-stellar job by Technicolor and I really hope they'll let Lowry re-do it for the Blu-ray release.

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Found this on another forum. Take a look.

Didn't this come from the first post of this thread?

Didn't this come from the first post of this thread?

Yep, sorry about that.

Disney really went all out with this release. The extras are amazing and really interesting in their own right like the 4 artists draw a tree one. Plus we get a bonus dvd for free, what a great disc!

How long are the Disney vault titles available for? When do you think this title will no longer be available in general retail outlet or Amazon?

How long are the Disney vault titles available for? When do you think this title will no longer be available in general retail outlet or Amazon?

I think generally it's about 3-4 months, right? It does vary by title, though.

I think generally it's about 3-4 months, right? It does vary by title, though.

How long are the Disney vault titles available for? When do you think this title will no longer be available in general retail outlet or Amazon?

I believe for Platinum Editions, they only prints it every 7 years. It generally takes around half a year to a year before it's sold out in retail or amazon but of course it varies.

Guys, does the dvd version included has a Spanish dub ?

There's no real reason not to pick it up at once, but there's no need to panic either. In general I think the "shelf life" of the Platinum Editions has been close to two years, after that they've gotten harder to find. The Little Mermaid for example was released almost exactly two years ago but is still available; Lady and the Tramp, released 6 months earlier however, is not.

Of course that was for DVD and it remains to be seen how long they'll wait before they pull the Blu-rays. They might keep production up a little longer for the earlier titles, to give more people time to upgrade.

What the hell? Is the DVD packaging really glued onto the Blu-ray case? I tried pulling at it but it's obvious I can't take it off without tearing the DVD packaging. And peaking behind the DVD packaging it looks like even if I take it off there will be glue substance left on the Blu-ray cover.

What the hell? Is the DVD packaging really glued onto the Blu-ray case? I tried pulling at it but it's obvious I can't take it off without tearing the DVD packaging. And peaking behind the DVD packaging it looks like even if I take it off there will be glue substance left on the Blu-ray cover.

Can someone confirm? This sounds pretty damn boneheaded to me! :mad:


Edit: wait, so if you pull it off, the damage will only be on the DVD packaging? I can live with that :)

It's the same 'glue' they use on mag covers w/CD's.

The 'four guys & a tree' was on the old SD DVD.
A GREAT little feature!

I like the "fast play" approach on the extra DVD. I kinda wish the Blu-ray was similar that regard. ^_^;

it was just like a glue you could easily rub off with your fingers...like the address label on a magazine.

What the hell? Is the DVD packaging really glued onto the Blu-ray case? I tried pulling at it but it's obvious I can't take it off without tearing the DVD packaging. And peaking behind the DVD packaging it looks like even if I take it off there will be glue substance left on the Blu-ray cover.

Just pulled mine off. It's what we call "bogger glue" in the magazine business.

Easy to remove from both. No residue leftover at all.

Well mine is cemented on. I'll just leave it attached since where am I going to store the dvd if it's detached anyway. I always have bad luck with things like this with stickers that damage the product or leave sticker residue. Like that sticker that keeps the dvd cardstock packaging shut, I won't dare try to peel it off because I know it'll rip for me like others have(my Wii Sports packaging ruined :() I'll just slice it open.

My DVD peeled off easily with no residue. Lucky, I guess!

The picture on this BD is exceptionally good. Worth the upgrade. The whole family (myself included) were mesmerized.

Lee

any chance this includes a 10 dollar rebate for dvd owners? i hope disney will do this with their animated catalogue as ive already bought them all on dvd over the last 9 years

I guess I am a bit confused. I'm not understand what stick (or whatever it is) folks are trying to remove. Better yet...why?

I guess I am a bit confused. I'm not understand what stick (or whatever it is) folks are trying to remove. Better yet...why?
It comes with a full copy of the film on dvd in a little paper sleeve stuck to the case with ticky tack(not on the slip cover mind you). Very cool, much better than a digital copy. They even list the specs for the dvd on the back cover. It's a 3 disc set.:) in a 2 disc case.

Since I didn't need the DC CD from Speed Racer I just took that case and used it for the Sleeping Beauty BD and DVD. If it's listed on the box it goes in the box.;)

It comes with a full copy of the film on dvd in a little paper sleeve stuck to the case with ticky tack(not on the slip cover mind you). Very cool, much better than a digital copy. They even list the specs for the dvd on the back cover. It's a 3 disc set.:) in a 2 disc case.

Since I didn't need the DC CD from Speed Racer I just took that case and used it for the Sleeping Beauty BD and DVD. If it's listed on the box it goes in the box.;)

Got it. Thanks for catching me up to speed.

Unless Disney are idiots they are going to have to re-think their vault scenario for these early Blu ray releases. Right now they aren't selling that many copies of Blu vs DVD even if everyone of us with a Blu player buys it. So if it goes into the vault for 7 years, the majority of Blu ray customers (consider that Blu ray might boom in the next couple of years if the economy gets back on track) wouldn't be able to get it!

Disney would lose millions by locking these things in the vault in 6 months to a year.

Consider too that they didn't get through their entire catalog on DVD before the next format came around... so if they do that again, Blu ray might be obsoleted by the time these early releases come out of the vault again!

Note I'm not saying gloom&doom for Blu... Rather the opposite, if the number of players double or triple in the next few years that'd be a lot of money left on the table (in the vault) if Disney starts locking these Blu rays in their vault right now.

Pixar's John Lassater was newly appointed in charge of the animation division. I don't know how much sway he holds, but I know he's a die-hard BD supporter, and hopefully he'll put an end to this silly vault tradition. I want Walt Disney, not Vault Disney *crickets*

Did anyone get the free alarm clock from Best Buy? How is the quality on that one? I have a niece that would like it, but if it's really cheap I won't bother.

Pixar's John Lassater was newly appointed in charge of the animation division. I don't know how much sway he holds, but I know he's a die-hard BD supporter, and hopefully he'll put an end to this silly vault tradition. I want Walt Disney, not Vault Disney *crickets*

Did anyone get the free alarm clock from Best Buy? How is the quality on that one? I have a niece that would like it, but if it's really cheap I won't bother.

I did, but haven't unpacked it yet. Everyone's asleep now (hah!) but I'll test it when I get a chance if no one else chimes in (double hah!) by tomorrow.

Guys, does the dvd version included has a Spanish dub ?

Yes, it's the same disc as the standalone DVD release disc 1.

I like the "fast play" approach on the extra DVD. I kinda wish the Blu-ray was similar that regard. ^_^;

Haha. Yeah, I think it's kinda useful for kids not to touch anything and the disc will loop forever through almost all the material on the disc, but it's NOT an easy job for me to program it. I also wish Blu-ray authors suffer the same pain. j/k.

From Richard Harris...


"TLA was a format that was "croppable."

The photographed image most likely simply runs out at the edges, and was cropped to create 2.35 for 35mm and 2.21 for 70.

The point is that there has always been a bit more information, and that is what is being exposed for the first time in this release on home video.

I have great faith that things are being handled correctly, and can confirm that there is no guessing going on with SB.

A Q & A with the archivist responsible for the work will go on line closer to the release date."



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Well after a Blockbuster store employee watched it and just spoke superlatives about this BD while I was in the store last evening, I decided to hop on across the street to Kmart and buy this one. This specific BV store didn't have any for sale.

There are great things to write about this BD but I'm going to focus on something I really never have done before. I found myself hitting the pause button just to gaze at the screen and admire what I was viewing! I cannot recall how may times I did that while watching this so I suppose that speaks volumes. I didn't want to highlight for fear of taking away from any part of this film which was all fine indeed, but I have to admit though the chapters through the forest are just totally sensational for PQ. I wish I had the capability for pictures to illustrate.

You owe it to yourself to check this one out. If you are on the fence but were leaning towards buying it, I strongly suggest you do so.

I'll be carrying disc one with me this weekend to local B&M stores to view it on a larger display that has a BD player connected. I wouldn't be surprised though if I didn't need to utilize my copy as I would suspect some may already have this playing. :)

Boo on the booger glue--mine was especially boogery, and I almost ripped/deformed the plastic wrap on the case getting that snot off.

Boo too on the ridiculous the BD-Live EULA and Privacy Policy...120 onscreen pages? Sheesh.

Yea on the most beautiful version of the flick I've ever seen.

My disc told me I needed a BD-Live update, so I said yes against my better judgment and now my disc is stuck at the performing update screen and the bar has only moved a centimeter in the past 10 minutes. By the way, I have the Sony 350.

Edit: Just restarted the disc and the process all over again, this time the bar is actually moving.

Since I didn't need the DC CD from Speed Racer I just took that case and used it for the Sleeping Beauty BD and DVD. If it's listed on the box it goes in the box.;)

Good tip! Thanks for the idea.

Yes, it's the same disc as the standalone DVD release disc 1.

Yeeeeessss!!! Thanks for the reply, man. I'm getting this bluray ASAP . I'm glad it includes the standard dvd on it too. Who knows, if it sells well maybe other studios will take notice ? I hope so.

Unless Disney are idiots they are going to have to re-think their vault scenario for these early Blu ray releases. Right now they aren't selling that many copies of Blu vs DVD even if everyone of us with a Blu player buys it. So if it goes into the vault for 7 years, the majority of Blu ray customers (consider that Blu ray might boom in the next couple of years if the economy gets back on track) wouldn't be able to get it!

Disney would lose millions by locking these things in the vault in 6 months to a year.

Consider too that they didn't get through their entire catalog on DVD before the next format came around... so if they do that again, Blu ray might be obsoleted by the time these early releases come out of the vault again!

Note I'm not saying gloom&doom for Blu... Rather the opposite, if the number of players double or triple in the next few years that'd be a lot of money left on the table (in the vault) if Disney starts locking these Blu rays in their vault right now.
Are you familiar w/Disney's (& when I say "Disney", I mean "Walt Disney") catalog release program?
Disney will be selling other "vault" titles to Blu fans; don't worry.
The Mouse may not be making $$$ on BD "SB" in the future, butt eBay will! :p

Unless Disney are idiots they are going to have to re-think their vault scenario for these early Blu ray releases. Right now they aren't selling that many copies of Blu vs DVD even if everyone of us with a Blu player buys it. So if it goes into the vault for 7 years, the majority of Blu ray customers (consider that Blu ray might boom in the next couple of years if the economy gets back on track) wouldn't be able to get it!

Disney would lose millions by locking these things in the vault in 6 months to a year.

Consider too that they didn't get through their entire catalog on DVD before the next format came around... so if they do that again, Blu ray might be obsoleted by the time these early releases come out of the vault again!

Note I'm not saying gloom&doom for Blu... Rather the opposite, if the number of players double or triple in the next few years that'd be a lot of money left on the table (in the vault) if Disney starts locking these Blu rays in their vault right now.

People have been complaining about this for years, but I don't see it changing. There were people who missed out on the early DVDs too.

This movie looked simply amazing on the bedroom plasma last night! Going to watch it again in the HT later so I can really check out the 7.1 sound; couldn't believe that a 50 year old movie could sound so well, even with the bedroom speakers.

Couldn't give the sound a real go last night as it was late and I had the volume quite low. If that also is aces, then this is definitely a REFERENCE BD! :)

I need to check out the bonus disc also, BTW.

What happens at the very end when the book closes and it says "The End"?

Mine goes to a black screen and freezes up... no credits or anything.

What happens at the very end when the book closes and it says "The End"?

Mine goes to a black screen and freezes up... no credits or anything.

Mine did too. Anyone have an idea why? Is it because I disabled my internet connection?

What happens at the very end when the book closes and it says "The End"?

Mine goes to a black screen and freezes up... no credits or anything.

You mean the disc has problem cuz it freezes?

The movie credits for that period are usually shown at the beginning of the movie. They don't have the modern credit rolls at the end.

You mean the disc has problem cuz it freezes?

The movie credits for that period are usually shown at the beginning of the movie. They don't have the modern credit rolls at the end.

I figured that might of been the case, but still, it just stayed at a frozen black screen... not even a menu screen?

Mine did too. Anyone have an idea why? Is it because I disabled my internet connection?

Cant be that cause I dont have one..

Haha. Yeah, I think it's kinda useful for kids not to touch anything and the disc will loop forever through almost all the material on the disc, but it's NOT an easy job for me to program it. I also wish Blu-ray authors suffer the same pain. j/k.

Sleeping Beauty does kind of have fast play. After the blu-ray Disney previews is done, you can just hit top menu and skip the 8 other previews and go straight to the menu. The level of detail in this movie is SICK! :eek: I wonder how many animators killed themselves just to make this film. Does anyone know how the "Living Castle" works. It's so erratic. First it was raining then I stopped it and cut the disc back on and the castle was covered in snow. I thought it changed setting based on your local area but it never seems to work right for me.

The movie credits for that period are usually shown at the beginning of the movie. They don't have the modern credit rolls at the end.

This confused me when I watched Fantasia on DVD. I had only previously seen it with the credits that were added later.

Still doesn't explain why our BD gets locked up with a black screen after the end of the movie. :confused:

Sleeping Beauty does kind of have fast play. After the blu-ray Disney previews is done, you can just hit top menu and skip the 8 other previews and go straight to the menu. The level of detail in this movie is SICK! :eek: I wonder how many animators killed themselves just to make this film. Does anyone know how the "Living Castle" works. It's so erratic. First it was raining then I stopped it and cut the disc back on and the castle was covered in snow. I thought it changed setting based on your local area but it never seems to work right for me.

It is based on which theme park you live closest too. You can change it to which theme park it displays

Sleeping Beauty does kind of have fast play. After the blu-ray Disney previews is done, you can just hit top menu and skip the 8 other previews and go straight to the menu.

That is not called "fast play". Fast Play means the disc automatically plays thru the trailers, features, bonus, menus x 2, trailers, feature..... forever.

Still doesn't explain why our BD gets locked up with a black screen after the end of the movie. :confused:

must be something wrong with the authoring. I don't have this disc yet but I encountered the exact same problem with some of my discs such as "Another Cinderella Story" (NOT a Disney disc)

Well, I called Disney this afternoon to let them know that their BD-Live registration doesn't work for Georgia. After going through filling out my email address, user name, and street address manually, they give you a drop down menu for STATE and when you select Georgia, it populates the State field with 'GO' instead of 'GA.' So, if you want to use your actual address, you can't do it from Georgia right now.

They hadn't heard that one yet, but I would think a spelling mistake would be a quick fix as an update.

This BD-Live stuff is about the buggiest thing I've ever seen.

The disc has frozen up about four times so far, requiring a reboot. I got through the registration process twice just to get an indecipherable error message that left me clueless as to what to do better next time. After successfully registering (and rebooting after yet another freeze up), I went into the Reward Points area and was told that the code I entered wasn't valid. After that, the translucent error message wouldn't go away and was superimposed over every menu I attempted to navigate afterwards.

They definitely shouldn't have tried to get this going without more quality control testing first.

(I'm on a fully updated PS3 and haven't had problems before.)

This BD-Live stuff is about the buggiest thing I've ever seen.

The disc has frozen up about four times so far, requiring a reboot. I got through the registration process twice just to get an indecipherable error message that left me clueless as to what to do better next time. After successfully registering (and rebooting after yet another freeze up), I went into the Reward Points area and was told that the code I entered wasn't valid. After that, the translucent error message wouldn't go away and was superimposed over every menu I attempted to navigate afterwards.

They definitely shouldn't have tried to get this going without more quality control testing first.

(I'm on a fully updated PS3 and haven't had problems before.)

same here. that update was way, way too long. i restarted it about 4 times and decided not to watch it and I watched jackie brown instead. tomorrow's a new day....

Ya know... 26 HD DVD's in my collection and not a single one ever gave me a problem. To date EVERY SINGLE blu-ray I have teve tried to play has been a trial in patience and discoveries of new curse words I never knew to exist before.

First the update process. Can someone explain to me why a movie that came out less than 48 hours ago requires an update?

2nd.. BD Live. What a piece of crap this is. So far I have been 100% unsucessful in creating a new account. I go through the painful process of inputting an email address and password only to have an empty box appear on my screen. Any press of the remote makes said box disappear and dumps me back at step 2 to enter a password.

I'm using ArcSoft TMT which is fully updated on a fully compliant HTPC. Has anyone else run across anything like this? Possible fixes?

Well after a Blockbuster store employee watched it and just spoke superlatives about this BD while I was in the store last evening, I decided to hop on across the street to Kmart and buy this one. This specific BV store didn't have any for sale.

There are great things to write about this BD but I'm going to focus on something I really never have done before. I found myself hitting the pause button just to gaze at the screen and admire what I was viewing! I cannot recall how may times I did that while watching this so I suppose that speaks volumes. I didn't want to highlight for fear of taking away from any part of this film which was all fine indeed, but I have to admit though the chapters through the forest are just totally sensational for PQ. I wish I had the capability for pictures to illustrate.

You owe it to yourself to check this one out. If you are on the fence but were leaning towards buying it, I strongly suggest you do so.

I'll be carrying disc one with me this weekend to local B&M stores to view it on a larger display that has a BD player connected. I wouldn't be surprised though if I didn't need to utilize my copy as I would suspect some may already have this playing. :)


Oh, so you're THAT guy. :p
Just kidding, nice impressions though.

Can someone explain to me why a movie that came out less than 48 hours ago requires an update?

Uh. It may be came out 48 hours ago, but the disc must have been pressed more than a month ago.

I can't wait for The Lion King on Blu-ray. That is all.

This BD-Live stuff is about the buggiest thing I've ever seen.

The disc has frozen up about four times so far, requiring a reboot. I got through the registration process twice just to get an indecipherable error message that left me clueless as to what to do better next time. After successfully registering (and rebooting after yet another freeze up), I went into the Reward Points area and was told that the code I entered wasn't valid. After that, the translucent error message wouldn't go away and was superimposed over every menu I attempted to navigate afterwards.

They definitely shouldn't have tried to get this going without more quality control testing first.

(I'm on a fully updated PS3 and haven't had problems before.)


I must have been lucky cause I didn't have any problems at all. I got through it all in one setting with no hiccups. They required a lot of information, but I've never been kicked off or anything. I've gotten on it several times since then and still haven't had any problems or long loading. I wonder if it has anything to do with the areas some people are in? When you put in your rewards codes make sure you do it exactly as the card has it. It wouldn't accept mine once because even though the letters were right, they weren't capitalized. I think the Disney interface looks awesome and it has some great music. Played some of the trivia games which were all right, but I can't see myself doing it ever again. Got some free Sleeping Beauty avatars through the rewards program. Couldn't try the movie chat feature cause I don't know anybody yet. It looks like they're going to have some neat features like a calendar of events etc, but half of the stuff wasn't even set up yet. All in all the BD Live features were pretty superflous but still kinda cool.

I had no problem with the movie playing, and it was gorgeous. So, any issue with the first iteration of Disney BD-Live is immaterial to me. They definitely have some issues that need to be ironed out quickly, but I expected some problems considering they are trying to really push the BD-Live aspect. I just didn't expect basic spelling errors in field populations.

the pinnocio trailer got me. that's a buyer

I watched the first half last night with my daughter and wow! What a great job, I never would have imagined that hand drawn animation could look so good. Very impressed with this title, would easily be worth Fox prices;)

This BD-Live stuff is about the buggiest thing I've ever seen.

The disc has frozen up about four times so far, requiring a reboot. I got through the registration process twice just to get an indecipherable error message that left me clueless as to what to do better next time. After successfully registering (and rebooting after yet another freeze up), I went into the Reward Points area and was told that the code I entered wasn't valid. After that, the translucent error message wouldn't go away and was superimposed over every menu I attempted to navigate afterwards.

They definitely shouldn't have tried to get this going without more quality control testing first.

(I'm on a fully updated PS3 and haven't had problems before.)Something I've learned with my bad luck(see page 5) is that just because you have problems doesn't mean everyone else did. I have not had any issues with this disc on my PS3. And I'm sure we would've seen more posts about BD-Live problems if it was a widespread problem like with Iron Man's BD-Live servers being overloaded.

Don't know if you know but Disney Movie Rewards has its own website and you can enter your code there. I entered mine there before knowing I could enter it through BD-Live.

I thought that I was going to get the extra 50 for this but since I entered in the player I didnt. It also gave me an error everytime I tried to finish until I picked a differnet name. the website isnt up yet either.

http://www.disneybdlivenetwork.com/

the website isnt up yet either.

http://www.disneybdlivenetwork.com/Course it is. It's just a little light on content:

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Has anyone checked out the DVD that came with the BLU? Is it anamorphic? I think I'm going to put it up on eBay with the Alarm Clock from Best Buy as I have no use for either.

course it is. It's just a little light on content:

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lol

Don't know if you know but Disney Movie Rewards has its own website and you can enter your code there. I entered mine there before knowing I could enter it through BD-Live.

That's what I did, and ran into problems as a result. I entered my code on the Disney Movie Rewards site first. Then, after I was finally able to get my account recognized with the disk's Disney BD-Live (it took a few attempts), it asked me for the rewards code.

However, every attempt to enter the code through the Disney BD-Live interface (with proper letter case) came back with an invalid code message.

It then told me that although I would be able to use the BD-Live features, I would not be able to link any points earned from within the disk's activities to my account since my code for that particular disk was not successfully entered. I'm presuming that this error occured because I entered my code in the website first instead of BD-Live?

I sent an email to Disney on Tuesday but have yet to hear back from them on how to fix the problem.

Best lines in the movie... during the dress making scene..

"It looks awful!"

"That because it's on you dear."

^_^

If someone would have told me I'd be watching this movie more than Iron Man because they knew how much I like that movie, I would of easily made a bet with them.

The more I watch this, the more I'm astounded. Can it truly get better each time? All I know is that it has been in my player each day since I've owned it and I don't have kids. Run, don't walk!

Has anyone checked out the DVD that came with the BLU? Is it anamorphic? I think I'm going to put it up on eBay with the Alarm Clock from Best Buy as I have no use for either.

The DVD copy that came with the Blu-ray is anamorphic. :)

Watched some of this again last night, couldn't keep my finger off the pause button just so I could sit and gawk at the incredible artwork. I am a single guy age 24 and I have NO shame admitting that I love this Blu-ray.

I wish they would let Merriweather run loose in the Disney vault and make everything Blu. Today. Right now. Starting with The Lion King. :D

I eventually gave up on the error messages and entered my code on the web site. Worked like a charm!

After completing my Disney catalog on DVD (minus Song of the South), I'm more than willing to replace them all on Blu-ray now that I've seen how good this one looks. I was avoiding their double dips on DVD, but they found a way to get back into my wallet.

Something I've learned with my bad luck(see page 5) is that just because you have problems doesn't mean everyone else did. I have not had any issues with this disc on my PS3. And I'm sure we would've seen more posts about BD-Live problems if it was a widespread problem like with Iron Man's BD-Live servers being overloaded.

Don't know if you know but Disney Movie Rewards has its own website and you can enter your code there. I entered mine there before knowing I could enter it through BD-Live.

As far as I know, BD Live is implemented using Java. So the type of jvm in each player is going to effect the outcome. So the studio has to test for all flavors of JVMs out there - i.e. code once and test everywhere.

The PS3 being the most prevalent player is probably the one they test on.

I wish they would let Merriweather run loose in the Disney vault and make everything Blu. Today. Right now. Starting with The Lion King. :D
Ha, ha!
"Make it Blu!" ;)

Course it is. It's just a little light on content:

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hehe... good show chap.... at any rate it is now accually up. Although still light on content..... just not that light. Just about the same as in on the BD LIVE interface.

Are we supposed to get Disney Rewards points for those BD-Live games? I played a game and saw no indication for Disney Rewards points.

Are we supposed to get Disney Rewards points for those BD-Live games? I played a game and saw no indication for Disney Rewards points.

I was more of the thinking that you would earn a different type of points to be used to buy avatars etc. to use on the LIVE sites and chat etc.

Here is how I know they did a good job. My wife who doesn't care about PQ raved about how great the blu ray looked compared to the DVD she had seen a couple months earlier at her sister's.

in my opinion this is at the current time the best looking blu ray to date

it's obvious they really put time and effort into getting this just right

i don't think they could have done a better job

The movie was awesome. I picked up my copy at the local Best Buy got a FREE Sleeping Beauty alarm clock! My daughter made out big last night!

On downside was that the BD-Live thing takes sooo long to complete. Granted, I don't have a keyboard, but having to key in all my info while having a kid "patiently" waiting for the movie to start made the situation a little frustrating.

Great Job Disney! :)

We just got our copy of the blu ray disc and I'm using with a Sony Bravia LCD TV 1080p, and PS3, and having alot of problems with what looks like blur artifact during the movie. We already exchanged it once and I haven't seen this kind of artifact on any other blu ray that I own yet and I'm surprised this would happen in an animated movie. I'm planning to try it on our panasonic plasma once when finish painting, but was wondering if anyone else experienced this at all?

Thanks

We just got our copy of the blu ray disc and I'm using with a Sony Bravia LCD TV 1080p, and PS3, and having alot of problems with what looks like blur artifact during the movie. We already exchanged it once and I haven't seen this kind of artifact on any other blu ray that I own yet and I'm surprised this would happen in an animated movie. I'm planning to try it on our panasonic plasma once when finish painting, but was wondering if anyone else experienced this at all?

Thanks

The blur you're talking about is like in a few scenes, right ? Some scenes look kinda out of focus. If it's like that, that happened to me too. Maybe is the ps3 ?
Does anybody has this problem watching sleeping beauty on ps3 ?

Got it tonight...it looks amazing.

Blur? If you hadn't mentioned that it isn't an issue with any other BD, I would have guess it's because you have an LCD. I'm not sure though. I haven't noticed any problems.

If someone can identify a particular point in the movie (give us the time) I will be more than happy to check it out for myself.

Got it tonight...it looks amazing.

Blur? If you hadn't mentioned that it isn't an issue with any other BD, I would have guess it's because you have an LCD. I'm not sure though. I haven't noticed any problems.

If someone can identify a particular point in the movie (give us the time) I will be more than happy to check it out for myself.

There's a spot near where the prince falls in the water where it simply looks like the camera that shot it was out of focus... there's a couple like that. But I'm not complaining, I'm still sort of shocked about it considering the age. ^_^

For some odd reason even after I filled out the BD-Live crap no matter what I do, I can't log in. Annoying, but no biggie.

In any event, great movie, love the soundtrack. My downstairs neighbor even called me up once (and it was only 7pm) and asked me what the "horrible noise" was (and I don't even have a sub).:D

There's a spot near where the prince falls in the water where it simply looks like the camera that shot it was out of focus... there's a couple like that. But I'm not complaining, I'm still sort of shocked about it considering the age. ^_^

Oooh, that's what i was talking about. That scene and some others look a little bit out of focus. But man, you're right ! This movie was so amazing on blu-ray.
I have watch this movie three times since a bought it and i'm gonna watch it again to see the PIP commmentary. For $30 this movie was a steal since you get the standard dvd inside the package too.

I noticed the blur as well and I have a Pioneer Kuro, so it is not your T.V. It just seems to be part of the movie.

I'm liking this movie more than my daughter!! :eek:


Matt

I found myself not so much "watching the movie" itself, but staring into the backgrounds and admiring the artwork. I've never been able to appreciate the background painting like this before.

Oooh, that's what i was talking about. That scene and some others look a little bit out of focus. But man, you're right ! This movie was so amazing on blu-ray.
I have watch this movie three times since a bought it and i'm gonna watch it again to see the PIP commmentary. For $30 this movie was a steal since you get the standard dvd inside the package too.
Robert Harris is writing a column on the restoration of Sleeping Beauty for The Digital Bits that should be posted on Monday. Perhaps we'll get to hear about this.

I found myself not so much "watching the movie" itself, but staring into the backgrounds and admiring the artwork. I've never been able to appreciate the background painting like this before.

Me too, and it's exactly what the animators were worried about... They can't get people's attention from the background back into the animation.. haha.

By the way, I think I know another place where the shot is out of focus: It's when Aurora is with a lot of forest animals.

i asked before, but do they include a 10 dollar coupon for previous owners on this

Took my disc to 6th Ave Electronics this morning and they had the Pioneer BD player hooked up to a Kuro. WOOOOWWWW!!!

The pro reviews are sure slow coming out, besides the blueray.com review here is one I found http://denver.yourhub.com/Denver/Stories/Reviews/Movies/Story~532919.aspx

i asked before, but do they include a 10 dollar coupon for previous owners on thisNope. Given that the new DVD streets for $15 and the BD for $24, not much reason too, I'd argue.

you could argue the same thing for every one of buena vistas new releases that had the coupon

What could cause these out of focus parts ? Is this a transfer problem ? Perhaps a recall ? Disney was good with the POTC disks right ?

Me too, and it's exactly what the animators were worried about... They can't get people's attention from the background back into the animation.. haha.

By the way, I think I know another place where the shot is out of focus: It's when Aurora is with a lot of forest animals.
You are right, that one shot is really blurred, where she is dipping her foot in the water. I don't think those were intentional, but I do know there was one part where the background but not the foreground was blurred: when Maleficent arrives and there is a upper-half body shot. Probably one of the few shots in the movie where "bokeh" was used, and probably was needed. Eyvind Earle's painting were beautifully distracting! He was a genius, though, I'll give him that.

I also noticed that some scenes were blurry(out of focus) at times but the majority of the PQ was great.

Although the audio was 7.1, I'm not sure if it was needed as the audio was mainly dialog except for some singing but if they didn't included the lossless audio I'm sure we would have enthusists hollering for a re-release. :)

I also noticed that some scenes were blurry(out of focus) at times but the majority of the PQ was great.

Although the audio was 7.1, I'm not sure if it was needed as the audio was mainly dialog except for some singing but if they didn't included the lossless audio I'm sure we would have enthusists hollering for a re-release. :)

The actual orchestral music sounded quite good. (I really liked some of that low waltz bass...) but yeah, for the majority of the soundtrack, 7.1 lossless was probably just glorious overkill. Which I'm perfectly OK with. :-)

I watched this movie last night with my family. and their jaws were on the floor. this is what in my opinion makes bluray such a great format.

never would i expected to watch this movie in such amazing detail. sure some scenes were out of focus. but this movie is 50 years old! god knows in what state the orginal print was. This bluray i saw, looked like new. I wonder how much time it took for them to make this piece of art looks as great as it is now.

also to see this kind of quality from hand drawn animators. show what an unbelievable skill those people at that time had. a skill that is unfortunate lost these days.

if i was disney i would still try to make these kind of 2D handdrawn animation. without any computer CGI. keep it pure and simple.

man the wait for Pinocchio and snow white will be so tough. i want it now!!!! :)

While the next blu releases from the Disney vaults will look better than ever before, I doubt if they will exceed Sleeping Beauty in quality. There will be gripes about softness etc. This is because of the difference in production between Sleeping Beauty and all the prior Disney feature length cartoons. Although the previews of Pinnochio do look nice.

I got Sleeping Beauty last night and spent the better part of the day watching it and the supplements. WOW!

Could anyone please scan the Canadian version?

I know it's different from the US version as it includes extra subtitles and dub languanges.

So I'd really like to know if the DTS-HD MA track is 48/24 or if it has been downgraded like most of the Disney PCM tracks outside the US

Just watched it yesterday.. Looked great for the most part. Surprised at how well the audio held up considering the age of the movie. Enjoyable movie as well.

I can't wait to see Pinoichio, watching the wale in the trailer made me :D

It was great seeing the movie in high-def, but is there an easy way of getting past all those promos? Seems like this disc has more than the normal amount.

press top menu

I rip all Disney DVD's to take out the commercials. My kid is not patient enough to wait for me to forward through all of the commercials on Disney DVD discs.

+1

(the problem is not my kid. It's me. I'm starting my HT hobby during the LD days. I want to be able to plop the disc in and start the movie.

I just go to the top menu and skip them. Though with Sleeping Beauty I actually wanted to watch them to see what was new. I was hoping for a Lion King trailer instead Pinochio was a pleasnt surprise.

So I got more interested in Disney and thought I'd give Lion King a peek. Well I checked around and I could not find it for rental. Most places I checked only have 1 copy and I was told it was basically always rented out since this is in the vault. Netflix doesn't carry it also.

Robert Harris is writing a column on the restoration of Sleeping Beauty for The Digital Bits that should be posted on Monday. Perhaps we'll get to hear about this.

Column is now up.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/robertharris/harris101308.html

Great article.

Just got my copy this morning. On the whole, it looks astonishing.

There is one very harshly degrained optical shot, which only lasts for a few seconds. It's interesting when the filtering processes used get exposed like this (forgive me, but this is part of my job!)

For the people interested... It looks like they used a spatial median filter to de-grain the cel-based portions of the image. The advantage to this is that such a filtering method will not create time-based smearing. The disadvantage is that, without any sort of averaging, the end result will look a bit rough when the filter is used on heavily grainy scenes. (FWIW, the same filter process appears to have been used on The Nightmare Before Christmas recently).

The weakest looking shot: http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_5.png

Other examples of median filter: http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_1.png
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_6.png (Was an out of focus shot anyway).

Such a filter works by blocking out the frequencies in which the grain lies - and retaining only the info the operator wants to keep, in this case, the paint and the outlines. That works quite well for most of the film. But if you skip to Chapter 7 (I think it's 7), you can see what happens when it's used on once very, very grainy shots.

Of course, that lasts for about 5 seconds. The rest of it looks like this :D :D

http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_4.png
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_2.png
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_3.png
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_7.png
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_8.png

So I am very happy. I can't get over how stunning the backgrounds look!

Column is now up.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/robertharris/harris101308.html
I tried reading it, but that combination of font, background, and whatever else just about made my eyes melt.

Great article.

Just got my copy this morning. On the whole, it looks astonishing.

There is one very, very clumsily degrained optical shot, which only lasts for a few seconds. It's interesting when the filtering processes used get exposed like this (forgive me, but this is part of my job!)

For the people interested... It looks like they used a spatial median filter to de-grain the cel-based portions of the image. The advantage to this is that such a filtering method will not create time-based smearing. The disadvantage is that, without any sort of averaging, the end result will look a bit rough when the filter is used on heavily grainy scenes. (FWIW, the same filter process appears to have been used on The Nightmare Before Christmas recently).

The weakest looking shot: http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_5.png

Other examples of median filter: http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_1.png
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleepingbeauty/sleeping_beauty_6.png (Was an out of focus shot anyway).

Such a filter works by blocking out the frequencies in which the grain lies - and retaining only the info the operator wants to keep, in this case, the paint and the outlines. That works quite well for most of the film. But if you skip to Chapter 7 (I think it's 7), you can see what happens when it's used on once very, very grainy shots.

Of course, that lasts for about 5 seconds. The rest of it looks like this :D :D

http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleeping_beauty_4.png
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleeping_beauty_2.png
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleeping_beauty_3.png
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleeping_beauty_7.png
http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/10/sleeping_beauty_8.png

So I am very happy. I can't get over how stunning the backgrounds look!
The last series of links don't seem to be working.

Fixed now :)

If you like listening to Grand Canyon and you have a PS3 with SACD capability, get the Living Stereo Morton Gould SACD for around $10. It includes some works by Copland also. It will knock your socks off!!

Try 101 Dalmatians Platinum Edition upconverted. Bet you folks will hit the pause button especially during the second half of the movie. It isn't BD quality obviously but I think you'll get some really nice eye candy!

I finally got the BD edition of Sleeping Beauty from BB yesterday and watched it last night. As others have said, WOW! The restoration is simply wonderful and it even sounds pretty good. The decision to use the music from Tchaikovsky's Sleeping Beauty Ballet was a wise one.

I noticed that the graphics were primitive compared to how they routinely look now. That shouldn't be surprising, I suppose, because each frame was the result of laborious hand animation by a team of animators. It was a beautiful job. a work of art.

The 2D tapestry visual style was intentional (and not shared with Pinocchio and other movies from that period).

Argh! Local BV store only received 1 for sale, none for rental. Oh well!

mine too.

It's on my Xmas list.

My local BV store now has one for rental. They got a copy about two weeks after release. My local library also has it, believe it or not! :)

This is by far the surprise title for me with regards to BD titles going into it I thought well old can't be to impressive right? Wrong.
I thought it would not be a good title giving its age I remember bits and pieces of it but I was quit young.
I was totally impressed with the detail of the PQ and the audio was very good. Good job Disney on this title and well worth the money I spent imho.

Wow, does this look amazing. I would never have believed the colours could be so intense.


One real nice thing about BD is when you pause the picture it retains all it's detail. That lets you step through a section slowly to see how the animation changed frame by frame very cool. The extra with the dragon was a lot of fun as well.

I just watched this tonight, and the wife loved it! The audio was great, the picture quality was spectacular, and the film was great to watch again after 20 or so years.

So can anyone here try to explain why BDLive is AWOL on the Canadian BD Discs?

This is really really really upsetting my 9 year old daughter who watched the promos advertising this feature.. :(

I wouldn't miss it. It took over 15 minutes to download stuff before it let us get to the movie. :(

Haven't seen the Blu-ray version of Sleeping Beauty yet, though I was wondering for those who have it, what part would be a good scene to show off to friends.

Something that's very colorful and last a moment or two.

Thanks!

Probably towards the end of the film when there is more action, magic, and some really vibrant colors.

Haven't seen the Blu-ray version of Sleeping Beauty yet, though I was wondering for those who have it, what part would be a good scene to show off to friends

I think the whole movie is just jaw dropping. But for vibrant colors I would pick the beginning where every one is going to the castle to welcome the new baby as well as the indoor scenes there.

Best bet though is grab your copy and give it a spin, then pick what you like.

I'll chime in. The forest scenes and the cottage with the three good fairies. I agree with an earlier poster, you can't really miss with any part of the film.