The scoop w/covers (yes, plural)

http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Star_Wars_The_Clone_Wars_Assaults_Blu-ray/3521

Count me in.

Must buy.

The scoop w/covers (yes, plural)

http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Star_Wars_The_Clone_Wars_Assaults_Blu-ray/3521
this will have to be a rental first, too many reports of it being just awful
perhaps old George should have told the story of Darth Vader between episode 3 and 4

Thanks for the update! I'll probably pick this one up.

...It's aimed younger than the Tartakovsky flicks, but at least of the film is pretty damn good. The other bits are far more juvenile then you'd expect (and no doubt spoilers abound to dig into), but there's only one "what the hell were they thinking" element, one I'll be interested to hear discussed with a tragic lack of earnest contemplation during the commentary.

It's better than The Ewok Movie, which, all kidding aside, is its direct antecedent in terms of target demographic.

Is it just me or is that the ugliest animation style ever created?:( Ughh.
I'll pick it up though... the box says: Star Wars, THX, Blu-ray. I pretty much have to buy it, when it's on the cheap though.

Why don't they don't they release Tartakovsky's "Clone Wars" on Blu-ray? I would buy that in a heart beat. Those are frakkin works of art.

exactly.
or, GASP! the actual movies?!?!?

Is it just me or is that the ugliest animation style ever created?:( Ughh.
I'll pick it up though... the box says: Star Wars, THX, Blu-ray. I pretty much have to buy it, when it's on the cheap though.

Why don't they don't they release Tartakovsky's "Clone Wars" on Blu-ray? I would buy that in a heart beat. Those are frakkin works of art.

Absolutely. I'd buy it, if it wasn't for that beyond hideous animation style. *gags*

I went to see this film at the cinema,my son thought it good,but I thought it was awful,really bad,rental at best. George Lucas has now really lost the plot.I like Star Wars but this is a shocker.

I went to see this film at the cinema,my son thought it good,but I thought it was awful,really bad,rental at best. George Lucas has now really lost the plot.I like Star Wars but this is a shocker.

there is a few that have said that.best to rent first.

Why don't they don't they release Tartakovsky's "Clone Wars" on Blu-ray? I would buy that in a heart beat. Those are frakkin works of art.

I agree. Tartakovsky's Dark Crystal sequel should be interesting though. And I hope his plans of making a Samurai Jack movie come to fruition.

"Sky Guy" ugh!!! I want to kill that no good padwan.

there is a few that have said that.best to rent first.

There are many many more than a few that said that this "movie" sucks.

There are many many more than a few that said that this "movie" sucks.

That bad :eek:

exactly.
or, GASP! the actual movies?!?!?

This is nothing other than a guess, but I think the prequels will be released next year to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Phantom Menace. This release would also tie in to the Clone Wars TV series.

Of the HD transfers for all six films, TPM is the only one that really needs some restorative work and a remastered version on Blu-ray will certainly garner some attention.

saw it twice in the theaters with my 7yr old. it is a must buy for him to watch in home theater.

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Of the HD transfers for all six films, TPM is the only one that really needs some restorative work and a remastered version on Blu-ray will certainly garner some attention.

Yep TPM always looked like ****. And I always wondered why the DVD got such high praise when it came out with such an awful transfer as I thought it lookad as crap even back then on an 32 inch CRT ;)
The HD versions I´ve seen is just as horrible and lacks any real fine details, probably just an upconvert.

About the new Clone Wars movie: My brain almost melted by the horrible animation, character design and..."story"?

My 4 year old liked it. I will buy it for her:)

I enjoyed it, but I didn't expect a whole lot out of it either.

Saw it at the theatre, not sure I'm ready for another dose of this! Too many excellent titles coming out in Q4. I'd rather save for the Criterion Collection. Now, the actual movies box set, I'd buy in a heart beat. This was easily the most disappointing movie I saw this summer. The animation was just too wooden :)

If you want to discuss the movie itself, use the movie thread, not the Blu-ray thread, or else it'll get locked.

Hmm

intresting. Lucasfilm softening their stance on when thier movies come to be. Perhaps if GL is softening, his buddy SS will also soften his stance......

One can only hope!

Hmm

intresting. Lucasfilm softening their stance on when thier movies come to be. Perhaps if GL is softening, his buddy SS will also soften his stance......

One can only hope!I think it's the other way around. Spielberg has already released several times, Lucas only once.

If you want to discuss the movie itself, use the movie thread, not the Blu-ray thread, or else it'll get locked.

If that were the case, almost every thread in the Blu-Ray software forum would be locked.

I think it's the other way around. Spielberg has already released several times, Lucas only once.

Really?

I know close encounters (really a sony film but whatever). What other SS movies as I am drawing a blank. I heard goonies but is that out yet?

No brainer. This will be a welcome addition to my Lounge and will be played repeatedly. The story was good; but, I love the action, the music, and the animation.

I went to see this with my son (8) and my low expectations for this film were easily surpassed. This is Star Wars, Lucas, THX and now Blu-ray, after all. The trailers had me concerned that some of the themes would be a little dark, but it worked out ok - unlike some of the live action flicks.

The audio will be a treat.

Hi Everyone-

I received this over the weekend. Really beautiful disc with just slight moire patterns on star destroyers etc. Not sure if this is my Pioneer Elite dealing with the interlace/progressive process. Considering the source, I would have been surprised if the picture was subpar.

AQ is stellar. True HD is great.

I will be picking this up because I am a huge Star Wars fan. I did see this in the theater and my son enjoyed it more than I did.

Now the weekly Clone Wars on Cartoon network is a different story. So far it has been a nice look into the Star Wars galaxy.

My point is, if you didn't enjoy the movie, try the weekly series.

Here's an idea... how about they just put the Star Wars movies on BD instead of this! :mad:
How many would buy this if the six Star Wars movies were currently out on BD?

Here's an idea... how about they just put the Star Wars movies on BD instead of this! :mad:
How many would buy this if the six Star Wars movies were currently out on BD?

Clone Wars = Star Wars; so, I would. ;)

I saw the trailer for this and the beard of Obi Wan reminds me of the lego Star Wars games.

It didn't do well at the world box office - that doesn't mean anything but the trailer didn't really get me going with excitement.

It would have been great to get a live action film detailing the events between Episode 3 and 4 as Darth Vader hunts down the remaining Jedi.

Maybe if it sells well on Blu Ray they may consider releasing the original movies and prequels.

The Star Wars Christmas is awful too but hey it's Star Wars ;) . I'll probably buy this one when I can get it for under $20 just because it's something Star Wars on Blu Ray and we need to encourage George to dish out the REAL goods :) .

- Jason

It would have been great to get a live action film detailing the events between Episode 3 and 4 as Darth Vader hunts down the remaining Jedi.The upcoming live-action TV series will cover that time period, although it will not feature Darth Vader.

Scott

Here's an idea... how about they just put the Star Wars movies on BD instead of this! :mad:
How many would buy this if the six Star Wars movies were currently out on BD?

Did not see it in the theatres so its a blind buy for me.

Yep TPM always looked like ****.

Not according to Lucasfilm.;) When I got my first big screen a few years ago, this was one of the films I first popped in. And yup, it did look like **** on a big screen.

I really had no intention of picking Clone Wars up, even though I'm a big SW fan. I just had no desire to see it and didn't see it in the theaters, but I've been watching the series on CN and I'm actually enjoying it. So I'm on board with the Clone Wars BD.

The things that have bothered me about the series are the stupid, continuation of humor with the battle droids, which have carried over from the PT. Another thing that kinda bugs me is Yoda constantly talking backwards. Yeah, he's done it throughout the saga, but it seems he talks/ has talked that way alot more in the PT and CW than he did in the OT.

Will I prefer the original Clone Wars series(best storytelling of anything in the SW universe ever, it makes the new one look remedial). I can't wait to get my copy.

2 questions - is the sound mix comparable to any of the feature films? And most importantly is the THX intro in TrueHD?:D

Will I prefer the original Clone Wars series(best storytelling of anything in the SW universe ever, it makes the new one look remedial). I can't wait to get my copy.

2 questions - is the sound mix comparable to any of the feature films? And most importantly is the THX intro in TrueHD?:D

doesn't have the audio budget as the feature films, nor does it have Ben B. It is a nice mix, though.

Sorry to say THX is DD like Indy.

Big starwars fan. But gonna rent this one before I buy.

doesn't have the audio budget as the feature films, nor does it have Ben B. It is a nice mix, though.

Sorry to say THX is DD like Indy.
Cool. How can they THX certify the TrueHD audio and not put the intro in lossless form? Are we just supposed accept that it's labeled THX.;)

At least all the cool sound effects were already done. Woo hoo.
First lightsaber sounds in lossless still = drool worthy. Right?:)

Cool. How can they THX certify the TrueHD audio and not put the intro in lossless form? Are we just supposed accept that it's labeled THX.;)

At least all the cool sound effects were already done. Woo hoo.
First lightsaber sounds in lossless still = drool worthy. Right?:)

Yeah the lightsabers sound kick ass, especially with some nice LFE.

paul, is the disc single or dual layered?

Yeah the lightsabers sound kick ass, especially with some nice LFE.
Ok now I'm sold. That's all I need. Lightsabers with LFE support.:cool:
Thanks for the impressions paul.

episode III ruined star wars for me :(

darth vader shouldn't be so weak-minded and whiney

I avoided this as I heard it was crap.

But I've been watching the series on CN and I'm really enjoying it. Can't wait to get this on netflix.

paul, is the disc single or dual layered?

I actually don't know. Don't have a PC or Blu support on my mac. Any other way to find out?

Check the inner ring on the back of the disc it should have a marking BVDL if it's a BD50.

I avoided this as I heard it was crap.

But I've been watching the series on CN and I'm really enjoying it. Can't wait to get this on netflix.

Same with me regarding hearing how crappy it was. After watching the disc, i was impressed. Some flaws (battle droids roger roger, jabbas annoying baby, and the Padawan) it wasn't bad at all. Some liberties were taken on the Williams score but overall it's a cool little flick.

Is the CN series cool then? I wonder if they will come out in HD

Check the inner ring on the back of the disc it should have a marking BVDL if it's a BD50.

Don't see anything...

I did forget to mention that the THD is EX

So did I understand this correctly? This is DIFFERENT from the Tartarkovsky Cartoon Network series that was released on DVD as Clone Wars Vol. 1 and Vol. 2?

So did I understand this correctly? This is DIFFERENT from the Tartarkovsky Cartoon Network series that was released on DVD as Clone Wars Vol. 1 and Vol. 2?

Yes it is different.




I thought the film was so so but I'm enjoying the TV show.

I will be picking this up because I am a huge Star Wars fan.

Ditto

So did I understand this correctly? This is DIFFERENT from the Tartarkovsky Cartoon Network series that was released on DVD as Clone Wars Vol. 1 and Vol. 2?

It is basically Lucas deciding to overwrite that with his new conception of the same timeline, and CGI in place of 2D animation.

He has also replaced the visual and simple but effective storytelling style Tartakovsky used with a sort of Saturday morning serial style (taking Star Wars all the way back to his original intent from the '70s), including '40s newsreel style intros. Which I might have enjoyed, but he has targeted it squarely at the 4-8 year old crowd, with very little consideration for an older audience. Sort of a whole series based around Jar-jar style storytelling IMO. And I was OK with Jar-jar, so that is not an automatic write-off.

I took my kid (10) to see this in the theater, and he enjoyed it somewhat, and argues when I say it was bad, but he has not been to diligent about seeing them all on TV, so it's plain he isn't highly enamored of it either. Pretty much the first Star Wars production I have been almost completely disappointed with.

So yeah, rent it. Or watch them online at starwars.com to get a feel for the series.

Is the CN series cool then? I wonder if they will come out in HD

The CN series is broadcast in HD and also is being released on bluray.

The CN series is broadcast in HD and also is being released on bluray.

Here in NYC, we don't get CN in HD with Time Warner Cable. Oh well

Here in NYC, we don't get CN in HD with Time Warner Cable. Oh well

Maybe YOU don't. ;) In queens, we do.
It looks fantastic.

And I MUCH prefer the TV show over the movie. The TV show is actually very good.

Yeah, but I hear that the series is supposed to start airing on TNT sometime, and that is in HD here. :)

I didn't see the movie yet, but the television series has been really great at times.

Maybe YOU don't. ;) In queens, we do.
It looks fantastic.

And I MUCH prefer the TV show over the movie. The TV show is actually very good.

WAIT. I live in Astoria. What Channel?

doesn't have the audio budget as the feature films, nor does it have Ben B. It is a nice mix, though.

Sorry to say THX is DD like Indy.

True, but I don't think that they really needed Ben Burtt for this. I'm sure that a few new sounds have to be created, but for the most part, everything they (Skywalker Sound) would need they can be pulled from the library that was created/used for the 6 films.

True, but I don't think that they really needed Ben Burtt for this. I'm sure that a few new sounds have to be created, but for the most part, everything they (Skywalker Sound) would need they can be pulled from the library that was created/used for the 6 films.

Yes, he might have created the sounds but having him actually mix or someone like Gary Rydstrom would be sweet.

WAIT. I live in Astoria. What Channel?

722. Didn't you notice that we got about 20 new HD channels?

doh. I don't watch that much TV. Sweet! thanks

Greetings,

I have this disc in for review and should have it done in the next day or two.....for those interested.


Cheers,

I saw this with my 7 year-old son this summer. Went in with no expectations of seeing something good and came out entertained.

We'll pick this up for sure next week with the "clone" cover if they are still releasing it in that cover. My son is ga-ga for Commander Cody and Capt. Rex--he was one of them for Halloween; don't ask my which.

Although this is entertaining, I have found the weekly show to be of even better quality. So far I've been impressed with the series and look forward to each new installment.

We'll pick this up for sure next week with the "clone" cover if they are still releasing it in that cover.


Oh, I see. It's a Target-exclusive cover. Well, I guess Target gets my business on this one.

Although this is entertaining, I have found the weekly show to be of even better quality. So far I've been impressed with the series and look forward to each new installment.

The show is much better than the movie. You really get to see the human side of the clones and how they differ. I still don't understand how Order 66 worked? Did the clones have a switch in their memory or something that made them turn on the republic?

I still don't understand how Order 66 worked? Did the clones have a switch in their memory or something that made them turn on the republic?

Hmmm. Good point. Didn't think of that. This show really does show how each one even though a clone has a different personality, nickname, etc. You would think with that much individualism and differing personalities that Order 66 would be a pretty tough sell.

As an Army junior officer I can tell you that if we got such an order to begin killing off our generals, I don't think it would happen--especially those of us who have fought in combat together. There must be some sort of built in "programming" or something. Either that or George Lucas changed his 'vision' for the series again:rolleyes:.

Greetings,

I have this disc in for review and should have it done in the next day or two.....for those interested.


Cheers,

Looking forward to it Ralph.

Oh, I see. It's a Target-exclusive cover. Well, I guess Target gets my business on this one.
Oh man I went through hell to get the little captain clone trooper action figure when it came out. ARC trooper is still the coolest one(I think the skirt makes it look more badass).

Ah I ordered mine directly from Warner, what are the chances target would notice if I returned the other one to the store? If the UPCs are the same I should be good to go right?

I still don't understand how Order 66 worked? Did the clones have a switch in their memory or something that made them turn on the republic?

Sidous' minion is the one who contracted with Kamino for the Clone army (Dooku masquerading as Sifodius most likely). The clones were conditioned per his orders. They were not turning on the Republic, they were turning on the Jedi whom Sidious had maneuvered into appearing to be trying to overthrow and control the Republic. So it may have been something akin to a "switch", where they were conditioned to be ultimately responsive to him, and told of his "concerns" about the Jedi, and so ready to turn on them at his order.

There is some interesting backstory here and there about it, as in the campaign mode in the Battlefront II game, where the clone narrating the game talks about not liking turning on their generals, but it being their duty.

Back to my less geeky pursuits.

BB

How about the lightsaber bass? Do they sound awesome like in Ep 1 or lifeless like in EP 3?

I fear it is more of the latter.

ps: I read the previous comments, but I'd like to hear a more specific comparison regarding the bass level presented on the movies mentioned above.

I sampled a bit. The lightsabers do not sound like the ones in EP.1(you know like they have the force of God behind them:D). And at least in the scene I sampled they never made that loud thunderclap when they hit each other.

But they do have a really nice low end hum to them and they do sound pretty violent. They sound better than the EP.3 ones IMO. They aren't disappointing at all in this movie. In fact it might be worth it just for the lightsabers.

I sampled a bit. The lightsabers do not sound like the ones in EP.1(you know like they have the force of God behind them:D).

:D

That's a good description.

But they do have a really nice low end hum to them and they do sound pretty violent. They sound better than the EP.3 ones IMO. They aren't disappointing at all in this movie. In fact it might be worth it just for the lightsabers.

Thanks shadowrage, it's a pitty they're not like EP 1 lightsabers. By your description, it seems as they sound like the ones in the Ep 4, 5, 6 remasters, which are not bad at all, at least much better than Ep. 3, but not anything like Ep 1 (still my favorite audio track ever).

I was so let down with the sabers in the Episode III track. :( Don't get me wrong, it was still a great 5.1 track, but man, nothing beats the sabers from TPM (or even AotC).

I was so let down with the sabers in the Episode III track. :( Don't get me wrong, it was still a great 5.1 track, but man, nothing beats the sabers from TPM (or even AotC).

Episode 3 was the worst in terms of sound design. Everything sounds fake. It felt like they just threw it out there. Phantom Menace to me sounds the best. And holy crap at the lightsaber hum from the subwoofer. That's what lightsabers are supposed to sound like - pure unadulterated energy.

Episode 3 was the worst in terms of sound design. Everything sounds fake. It felt like they just threw it out there. Phantom Menace to me sounds the best. And holy crap at the lightsaber hum from the subwoofer. That's what lightsabers are supposed to sound like - pure unadulterated energy.

When it comes out on BD do you guys think they can fix that problem? Give the sabers more guts.

When it comes out on BD do you guys think they can fix that problem? Give the sabers more guts.

Considering the lightsabers sound like crap on the TV show and the animated movie, probably not.

Considering the lightsabers sound like crap on the TV show and the animated movie, probably not.

Wrong. They sound quite good on the BD of the animated film

I thought the overall sound in EPIII was better than EP's I and II even w/o Rydstrom.

I was so let down with the sabers in the Episode III track. :( Don't get me wrong, it was still a great 5.1 track, but man, nothing beats the sabers from TPM (or even AotC).

Agreed. I think that the main reason behind that was that Gary Rydstrom did the mix on TPM and AOTC. He left Skywalker to go direct at Pixar prior to ROTS coming out. Yeah, the mix is still good on Sith, but it's as detailed or as aggressive as one of Rydstrom's mixes. I don't remember who mixed ROTS, I think it was Tom Myers. He also did the new mixes for the OT dvd's.

Yes, he might have created the sounds but having him actually mix or someone like Gary Rydstrom would be sweet.

That would be pretty difficult as Rydstrom is no longer at SS and I think Burtt is working mostly at Pixar right now as well, with few exceptions like Indy 4. Even with that, Burtt only did a handful of mixes at SS. Of the 6 SW films, the only film he mixed on was ROTJ. And he only mixed on a couple of Indy films as well, TOD and TLC if I remember right.

That would be pretty difficult as Rydstrom is no longer at SS and I think Burtt is working mostly at Pixar right now as well, with few exceptions like Indy 4. Even with that, Burtt only did a handful of mixes at SS. Of the 6 SW films, the only film he mixed on was ROTJ. And he only mixed on a couple of Indy films as well, TOD and TLC if I remember right.

The audio on the Indy 4, while clear and used great mixing COMPLETELY LACKS BASS! This is home theater! I can't believe how underwhelming that movie was on Blu-ray. If this is a sign of things to come from Lucasfims, they really need to fire a lot of people.

Indy IV sounded VERY flat and compressed to me. No dynamic range, no bass. Like a bad mp3.

I posted this on another thread that was closed:

When I popped my copy of Star Wars: The Clone Wars into my PS3 today I was shocked to see that it defaulted to the menu after the THX trailer. Is this a first for Warners? I can't recall any Warners title not autoplaying the movie on HDM.

The audio on the Indy 4, while clear and used great mixing COMPLETELY LACKS BASS! This is home theater! I can't believe how underwhelming that movie was on Blu-ray. If this is a sign of things to come from Lucasfims, they really need to fire a lot of people.


mmmm, lack bass this film does not

mmmm, lack bass this film does not

I agree. ;)

just watched this and loved it.

I posted this on another thread that was closed:

wej, my guess is that Lucasfilm actually authored the disc and that's why it goes to a menu.

Just like how Indy 4 got disc art instead of Paramount's usual ugly monocrome disc label.

But I hope not... I would love for them to stick to the standard that EVERY other company follows and default to a menu so I don't constantly have to switch audio tracks and backup the movie. Stupidest combination of decisions ever.

What a difference HD makes in the presentation of this show! I've been watching the series on TV and it looks "okay" but the Blu presentation really makes this art style come to life.The colors are very rich and all the little subtleties really stand out in 1080p. I am VERY happy with this disc and I haven't even dug into the extras yet. I think the TV series gets better with each weeks episode. Maybe they will answer some of the mysteries such os order 66. Stay tuned! ;)

The extras are awesome. I love each person thinks they did something great for the Star Wars franchise. How can that many people in charge of this have such bad taste?

And I officially hate Lucasfilm now, the HD Indy Clips I can deal with. But Return of the Jedi:eek: F you lucasfilm. I could swear I saw smudges on Vader's helmet. EP 4 might not look so good, but a couple of the shots looked great. EP 2 looks nice too. EP3 = way too artificial in HD.

I hope they go back and do some more passes for the CG in 1-3. I don't get most of the stuff ILM does blends perfectly. But the Star Wars CG sticks out like crazy. /ughh

I'll pick up the series when it comes out on BD, looks much more appealing in HD. It's stupid that it has the same quality as the "motion picture".

BTW - Someone should get some screengrabs from the extras. Oh yeah, there's a shot of Hoth in there.:D My money is on ROTJ looking the best out of all 6 movies.

Lucasfilm is probably behind the menus, and the HD extras.

WOW! What a aural and visual treat this is. The animation has so much depth and is so multilayered. Colors are vibrant and the image is nothing short of spectacular. This is easily the best PQ out of all the animated BD's I own. While I would have loved a PCM track on this, the DTHD track ROCKED! Great great stuff! Glad I finally have Star Wars on BD.

OK, just popped the disc in the player. Video quality is astonishing as expected. Is ti just me or is the TrueHD track recorded at a much lower level?

As for reaction to the movie, I really think all the people who say "it sucks" are coming into it with completely the wrong expectations (which isn't completely their fault, as it was released as a "movie").

You have to understand that the movie is just the first bunch of episodes stitched together. This gives it a very unusual structure for a film. It doesn't have a Pixar budget, and it doesn't have the epic scale that a "normal" Star Wars movie will have. It's basically used as a way to promote the series.

The animation is designed to be doable on a (high) television budget. There is a lot of model reuse (clones and droids are ideal for this) and things like dynamically moving hair are just not going to happen. The rendering is beautiful and hi-res, but the movement and character design needs to be a bit simpler to be workable for television. However, I feel they have really used this to their advantage by creating a very interesting style that is nice and consistent.

I really think this is why so many people say "I didn't see the movie because I heard it was bad, but the TV show has been pretty good." It's because their expectations for a TV show are completely different than for a movie.

It is also (obviously) marketed to a younger age group and will have some "cartoon type" humor in it. I don't find this objectionable either.

I haven't had the chance to see the TV episodes, but the previews of them on the first doc look exceptional. I can't wait for them to be released on BR. One question... can someone who's seen the TV episodes verify that the aspect ration on TV is 2.35:1? Very unusual... I guess I had assumed that the movie was recomposed from a regular 1.77:1 ratio, but all the clips from the show are 2.35 as well. Very cool.

OK, just popped the disc in the player. Video quality is astonishing as expected. Is ti just me or is the TrueHD track recorded at a much lower level?

As for reaction to the movie, I really think all the people who say "it sucks" are coming into it with completely the wrong expectations (which isn't completely their fault, as it was released as a "movie").

You have to understand that the movie is just the first bunch of episodes stitched together. This gives it a very unusual structure for a film. It doesn't have a Pixar budget, and it doesn't have the epic scale that a "normal" Star Wars movie will have. It's basically used as a way to promote the series.

The animation is designed to be doable on a (high) television budget. There is a lot of model reuse (clones and droids are ideal for this) and things like dynamically moving hair are just not going to happen. The rendering is beautiful and hi-res, but the movement and character design needs to be a bit simpler to be workable for television. However, I feel they have really used this to their advantage by creating a very interesting style that is nice and consistent.

I really think this is why so many people say "I didn't see the movie because I heard it was bad, but the TV show has been pretty good." It's because their expectations for a TV show are completely different than for a movie.

It is also (obviously) marketed to a younger age group and will have some "cartoon type" humor in it. I don't find this objectionable either.

I haven't had the chance to see the TV episodes, but the previews of them on the first doc look exceptional. I can't wait for them to be released on BR. One question... can someone who's seen the TV episodes verify that the aspect ration on TV is 2.35:1? Very unusual... I guess I had assumed that the movie was recomposed from a regular 1.77:1 ratio, but all the clips from the show are 2.35 as well. Very cool.

I thought the audio was recorded slightly loud imo, :) and as far as the aspect ratio for the tv episodes, it appears to be 2:35:1. I download from iTunes so i'm assuming Cartoon Network airs them in that ratio but I'm not positive as they have screwed around with other shows aspect ratios in the past.

Cartoon Network KD shows the eps. at 16x9, (1:78-1)

Watched it tonight. Saw it in theaters, and once you get over the Hutt's son storyline shocker, it's a pretty, nice and tight story. The Audio and video are 1st class.

I thought the audio was recorded slightly loud imo, :) and as far as the aspect ratio for the tv episodes, it appears to be 2:35:1. I download from iTunes so i'm assuming Cartoon Network airs them in that ratio but I'm not positive as they have screwed around with other shows aspect ratios in the past.

Were you listening to the default Dolby Digital track or the TrueHD? On my system the default track is much louder. Not that the TrueHD sounds bad or anything, just much lower.

If they were to do it by hand I bet they could make hair flow.:rolleyes:
The art design and animation is just plain gross(it makes me want to vomit a little) in my opinion. It's so visually boring and unappealing.


It's a good thing American animation is lacking so far behind what Japan has been doing for the past decade. Or you guys would really be unsatisfied with this.

The director and especially the composer did a terrible job on this. The music is actually distracting.

I actually had a similar reaction after first seeing the character designs. Partly because I loved the look of the hand animated show so much. After seeing them in use though, they really grew on me as being a very unique style that works well, especially when taken in the context of an animated weekly show.

I also thought the music was quite nice for the most part... though I am far from picky on that front. But again, you can't have John Williams on a weekly animated TV show. It is amazingly high quality when taken in context.

Cartoon Network KD shows the eps. at 16x9, (1:78-1)

Interesting... I wonder if they are cropped or some type of open matte type transfer.

I actually had a similar reaction after first seeing the character designs. Partly because I loved the look of the hand animated show so much. After seeing them in use though, they really grew on me as being a very unique style that works well, especially when taken in the context of an animated weekly show.

I also thought the music was quite nice for the most part... though I am far from picky on that front. But again, you can't have John Williams on a weekly animated TV show. It is amazingly high quality when taken in context.

I like the music too. It's nice to have a different spin on JW's score along with some new stuff.

Jabba wasn't fat enough but not even the NSA has a computer powerful enough to render 2 fat hutts.

I found the film very boring and the sound disappointing. Oh, what's with the TRUEHD EX? Would it have been too much for them to give us a 6.1 or 7.1 discrete mix?

Does Warner's have a film that has more than 5.1 channels?

Is this supposed to have a slip cover? My copy from Warner didn't have one. Ahh, I like the useless little things. Might have to find a way to finagle one.

I tried to pick this up at Target the other day. I don't know how many copies they got in but they were sold out. I wanted the special Red clone trooper cover art. I ended up ordering it from Target online. Hopefully it will be the limited edition.

I tried to pick this up at Target the other day. I don't know how many copies they got in but they were sold out. I wanted the special Red clone trooper cover art. I ended up ordering it from Target online. Hopefully it will be the limited edition.

Hope it does too! the regular Anakin cover is not that striking, the Target exclusive is much better and it comes packed with a comic book as well. Plus it was cheaper than Best Buy, so it was a no brainer. Great extras too, i'm almost done watching all of them. Great previews of the upcoming season, almost a little too much. Damn, I wished Cartoon Network broadcast in HD. It looks SOOOO much better.

I was going to get this but did I read right that this is regular old low bitrate DD?

Why does Warner insist on doing this?

I refuse to a premium over DVD for the same sound.

I'll just use pay per view in the hopes that it will minimize the amount of money that they receive from me.

Watched last night via Netflix rental. It was enjoyable but I'll probably never buy this one. The PQ and AQ were nothing to complain about IMHO.

Thanks for the recommendation. I fully planned to shut it off if I didn't like it but that didn't happen. I have BoB to contend with for viewing time presently but since this one was a freebie and it held my interest, I kept going with it.

Hope it does too! the regular Anakin cover is not that striking, the Target exclusive is much better and it comes packed with a comic book as well. Plus it was cheaper than Best Buy, so it was a no brainer. Great extras too, i'm almost done watching all of them. Great previews of the upcoming season, almost a little too much. Damn, I wished Cartoon Network broadcast in HD. It looks SOOOO much better.

I have Cartoon Network HD on Dish. It appears to be in HD light. Maybe 720p? The first couple of episodes were in "stretchavision" and the quality was horrible.

Damn, I wished Cartoon Network broadcast in HD. It looks SOOOO much better.

They do on Dish Network, and yes it does look great ;)

I have Cartoon Network HD on Dish. It appears to be in HD light. Maybe 720p? The first couple of episodes were in "stretchavision" and the quality was horrible.

I've seen every episode, they were not stretched here.

I've seen every episode, they were not stretched here.

The Friday night showings are HD. I've seen some of the rebroadcast during the week that weren't HD for some reason.

I was going to get this but did I read right that this is regular old low bitrate DD?


No, it has TrueHD. Sounded great to me.

I barely made it through this shitheap of a movie.

One a 10 scale it's somewhere between -30 and -4.

No, it has TrueHD. Sounded great to me.

Thanks.

I'll probably order it then. My boy has been asking for it for quite a while.

I barely made it through this shitheap of a movie.

One a 10 scale it's somewhere between -30 and -4.

I'm not to that level but close. I guess I'm not as much if a fan as I thought, glad I rented first. PQ was good, AQ was ok but I found myself checking the time status several times. I loved all 6 SW movies TESB and ROTS #1 and #2 on my list but this movie just blew. I've never seen the animated series but it's probably not for me. It's a different flavor and I can respect that but being a big Disney geek and seeing how well Disney and Pixar does things with story, emotion, and character I just felt this supremely weak and juvenile.

Does the TV series airs on Sci-Fi channel? if not where? Also is this live action or animated? Thanks.

I barely made it through this shitheap of a movie.

One a 10 scale it's somewhere between -30 and -4.

I'm not to that level but close. I guess I'm not as much if a fan as I thought, glad I rented first. PQ was good, AQ was ok but I found myself checking the time status several times. I loved all 6 SW movies TESB and ROTS #1 and #2 on my list but this movie just blew. I've never seen the animated series but it's probably not for me. It's a different flavor and I can respect that but being a big Disney geek and seeing how well Disney and Pixar does things with story, emotion, and character I just felt this supremely weak and juvenile.

I still haven't finished it yet. I watched the first 35 minutes of it on Tuesday and have not built up enough strength to finish the last hour. This is a far cry from the greatness of TESB, ANH and ROTS; even TPM, AOTC and ROTJ wipe the floor with this pile of garbage. Serious waste of $30.

My opinion is that it is much more fun than the prequel films. To each their own. I love how people feel the need to bash and trash.

The series on TV is on SD DVD also. Correct?

The series on TV is on SD DVD also. Correct?

No, the first season is still airing on TV as we speak.

Don't confuse Star Wars: Clone Wars (the traditionally animated show from a couple years ago, which is on DVD), with Star Wars: The Clone Wars, which is CG animated and is on TV now.

To make things extra confusing, this movie is also called Star Wars: The Clone Wars.

So is anyone having problems with this disc?

I have a BD30 bistreaming to an Onkyo 605. Firmware 2.5 (latest) on the Panny.

When I try to use the TrueHD track, the Onkyo won't lock in - it just keeps flashing, briefly shows TrueHD, and then repeats. I assume this has something to do with the EX flag. The DD track works fine.

I am playing the disc now through the PS3 which is decoding internally, and everything's fine. Would love to hear if others have had issues bitstreaming this one.

So is anyone having problems with this disc?

I have a BD30 bistreaming to an Onkyo 605. Firmware 2.5 (latest) on the Panny.

When I try to use the TrueHD track, the Onkyo won't lock in - it just keeps flashing, briefly shows TrueHD, and then repeats. I assume this has something to do with the EX flag. The DD track works fine.

I am playing the disc now through the PS3 which is decoding internally, and everything's fine. Would love to hear if others have had issues bitstreaming this one.

Played fine on my BD55 (fw 1.5) but I'm using the analog outs.

I'm not to that level but close. I guess I'm not as much if a fan as I thought, glad I rented first. PQ was good, AQ was ok but I found myself checking the time status several times. I loved all 6 SW movies TESB and ROTS #1 and #2 on my list but this movie just blew. I've never seen the animated series but it's probably not for me. It's a different flavor and I can respect that but being a big Disney geek and seeing how well Disney and Pixar does things with story, emotion, and character I just felt this supremely weak and juvenile.

Watch the documentary on the TV series on the movie disc. The tv show is way better than the movie. And IMO, the Animation has been tightened up. There are some ridiculous jaw dropping moments during the tv show that you think is real (Ie, Ship going into the Star Destroyer dock).

So is anyone having problems with this disc?

I have a BD30 bistreaming to an Onkyo 605. Firmware 2.5 (latest) on the Panny.

When I try to use the TrueHD track, the Onkyo won't lock in - it just keeps flashing, briefly shows TrueHD, and then repeats. I assume this has something to do with the EX flag. The DD track works fine.

I am playing the disc now through the PS3 which is decoding internally, and everything's fine. Would love to hear if others have had issues bitstreaming this one.

Exactly the same issue as you with that equipment. There was another title I had this problem with and I cannot recall which but I wasn't buying that one either. If I was for either, I would have contacted Panasonic. I think though the Onkyo may need a FW update.

I just used the PS3 instead when I saw this happening. And yes, the DD track did work fine on BD30.

Just saw today.it play fine with PIONEER LX71.The second THX BD.

I ordered this from Target.com to get the limited edition Red Clone trooper cover and it came with the standard Anakin cover. I guess that Amazon.com fufills their orders. So you have to get it locally.

Of course my local Target is sold out.....

success.:) I got my slip cover. It's a good thing Warner doesn't put the entire thing in plastic. Wonder why they put half with the cover and half without. That makes almost no sense at all.

It looks so much better with Ventress on the front. Totally worth the trouble.

I rented the clone wars bluray. I also have the panasonic 30 and the onkyo 605. I had problems with the trueHD. I called panasonic about it.

Jacob

I went to see this film at the cinema,my son thought it good,but I thought it was awful,really bad,rental at best. George Lucas has now really lost the plot.I like Star Wars but this is a shocker.

ya. I've heard nothing good about this; even from the die-hard SW geeks.

I'll pass.

BTW - Someone should get some screengrabs from the extras. Oh yeah, there's a shot of Hoth in there.:D My money is on ROTJ looking the best out of all 6 movies.



My bet would be on episode 4, as it was shot in 70mm (I don't think Empire and Jedi were. could be wrong)

Then again, this is assuming Lucas actually goes back to the real master and doesn't eff it up.

right.............

ya. I've heard nothing good about this; even from the die-hard SW geeks.

I'll pass.

Mine should be arriving this week. I should of rented first, I never learn.

My bet would be on episode 4, as it was shot in 70mm



nope.

Technical specifications for
Star Wars (1977)

Film negative format (mm/video inches)
35 mm

Exactly the same issue as you with that equipment. There was another title I had this problem with and I cannot recall which but I wasn't buying that one either. If I was for either, I would have contacted Panasonic. I think though the Onkyo may need a FW update.

I just used the PS3 instead when I saw this happening. And yes, the DD track did work fine on BD30.

Thank you. I also seem to remember having this happen with other disc, but I can't remember either! Have their been any other TrueHD tracks with an EX flag?

The tier audio thread may be the place to find the answer about TrueHD and EX flag.

BTW - Someone should get some screengrabs from the extras. Oh yeah, there's a shot of Hoth in there.:D My money is on ROTJ looking the best out of all 6 movies.Can somebody please tell me approximately where these shots from the live action movies are. I rented this disk and looked at the list of extras last night, but didn't see any obvious place where these would be unless maybe it was the video commentary (which looked like it just followed this movie).

Thanks,
Darin

nope.

Technical specifications for
Star Wars (1977)

Film negative format (mm/video inches)
35 mm

I swear I have some old trading cards that talk about it being in 70mm print. The cards were even super long...

Can somebody please tell me approximately where these shots from the live action movies are. I rented this disk and looked at the list of extras last night, but didn't see any obvious place where these would be unless maybe it was the video commentary (which looked like it just followed this movie).

Thanks,
Darin

The first documentary listed in the menu I believe. They showed a few seconds from some of the films.

I swear I have some old trading cards that talk about it being in 70mm print. The cards were even super long...If I remember correctly, the film was shown on a 70mm print in some theaters, but it was not shot on 70mm.

Scott

I swear I have some old trading cards that talk about it being in 70mm print. The cards were even super long...
There were 70mm prints made, but it was shot in anamorphic 35mm.

My wife and I watched the movie last night, and we both thoroughly enjoyed it.

Maybe the critical bashing lowered our expectations, and we both knew that it was drawn from the TV series, but neither of us was disappointed in any way.

The animation is just beautiful. Yes, the characters have somewhat of a stiff, wooden appearance, but that's not a technological shortcoming, it's a design choice. They wanted to produce a show with visual nod to the old Thunderbirds-style animation, and they succeeded, but on a much grander scale. The backgrounds and set pieces are highly detailed, and the lighting was spectacular (see the dusk Tatooine scenes, for examples).

The plot was fine, and felt very Star-Warsy. The story was filled with action, intrigue, devious plans, and snappy dialog. The action and battle scenes were well-staged, with some really nifty camera work. Some of the early ground battles shots had the same feel as the battle on Hoth in Empire.

The sound mix was good, but not outstanding. There are appropriate uses of bass throughout, and there was a pretty good use of fly over effects.

I was also impressed by the voice work. The actors they selected did a really good job of sounding like the original voices.

Watching the movie really makes me wish I could watch the TV show in HD. For now I'm stuck with SD. Maybe it's worth waiting until the inevitable BD set comes out.

Scott

My wife and I watched the movie last night, and we both thoroughly enjoyed it.

Maybe the critical bashing lowered our expectations, and we both knew that it was drawn from the TV series, but neither of us was disappointed in any way.

The animation is just beautiful. Yes, the characters have somewhat of a stiff, wooden appearance, but that's not a technological shortcoming, it's a design choice. They wanted to produce a show with visual nod to the old Thunderbirds-style animation, and they succeeded, but on a much grander scale. The backgrounds and set pieces are highly detailed, and the lighting was spectacular (see the dusk Tatooine scenes, for examples).

The plot was fine, and felt very Star-Warsy. The story was filled with action, intrigue, devious plans, and snappy dialog. The action and battle scenes were well-staged, with some really nifty camera work. Some of the early ground battles shots had the same feel as the battle on Hoth in Empire.

The sound mix was good, but not outstanding. There are appropriate uses of bass throughout, and there was a pretty good use of fly over effects.

I was also impressed by the voice work. The actors they selected did a really good job of sounding like the original voices.

Watching the movie really makes me wish I could watch the TV show in HD. For now I'm stuck with SD. Maybe it's worth waiting until the inevitable BD set comes out.

Scott

I think passing on the movie in theaters and watching the series first helped me lower my expectations, and I wound up enjoying the movie.

Also, on the voice acting, Samuel L. Jackson, Christopher Lee and Anthony Daniels have all continued to be involved to my knowledge. Also the guy who does Grievous is the same too since he works for Lucasfilm I believe.

The guy doing Anakin is a great match IMO.

So is anyone having problems with this disc?

I have a BD30 bistreaming to an Onkyo 605. Firmware 2.5 (latest) on the Panny.

When I try to use the TrueHD track, the Onkyo won't lock in - it just keeps flashing, briefly shows TrueHD, and then repeats. I assume this has something to do with the EX flag. The DD track works fine.

I am playing the disc now through the PS3 which is decoding internally, and everything's fine. Would love to hear if others have had issues bitstreaming this one.

I have the exact same problem. I have a Samsung BD-P1500 and 605. I switched my player to "PCM" and it played fine with TrueHD, but can't tell if the EX is there or not. I wonder if the Onkyo does need a FW update.

Also, on the voice acting, Samuel L. Jackson, Christopher Lee and Anthony Daniels have all continued to be involved to my knowledge. Also the guy who does Grievous is the same too since he works for Lucasfilm I believe.I don't think Jackson and Lee are working on the series, though.

The guy doing Anakin is a great match IMO.Agreed, although I think they're all doing a fine job. The test is if you even think about who's doing the voicing during the movie or episode, or if you just accept them as the character.

Scott

the only way that panasonic will be able to fix the trueHD on the pansonic 30 is for people to call in and report it. the phone number: 1-800-211-7262
I have already called in.. but others will have to do that too.

Jacob

Thank you. I also seem to remember having this happen with other disc, but I can't remember either! Have their been any other TrueHD tracks with an EX flag?
I could be wrong. But I don't think that TrueHD EX actually exists. I think its speced for like infinity channels(edit - 14 channels) or something?

Ok, FilmMixer helped me out. He said that a studio might label a TrueHD track as EX if the master was encoded with the the LS CS RS into the Left and Right Surrounds. So the master would be limited to 5.1 and the studio would call it EX since they didn't have a way to get the CS out discretely. But I would assume a movie from Lucasfilm would have a 6.1 discrete master if was a 6.1 track.
Mixer said he would have to find out if a TrueHD track would even set of any sort of EX flag at all.

Dolby doesn't have any info on TrueHD EX at all on their site. I emailed them about it. Warner is the only studio I've seen that has TrueHD EX. Does anyone know where I could find a list of movies with TrueHD EX?

I could be wrong. But I don't think that TrueHD EX actually exists. I think its speced for like infinity channels(edit - 14 channels) or something?

Ok, FilmMixer helped me out. He said that a studio might label a TrueHD track as EX if the master was encoded with the the LS CS RS into the Left and Right Surrounds. So the master would be limited to 5.1 and the studio would call it EX since they didn't have a way to get the CS out discretely. But I would assume a movie from Lucasfilm would have a 6.1 discrete master if was a 6.1 track.
Mixer said he would have to find out if a TrueHD track would even set of any sort of EX flag at all.

Dolby doesn't have any info on TrueHD EX at all on their site. I emailed them about it. Warner is the only studio I've seen that has TrueHD EX. Does anyone know where I could find a list of movies with TrueHD EX?

Thanks for the info!

Maybe it isn't the TrueHD EX that's causing my problem, but that's the only variable I could think of with this disc.

Has anyone with the TrueHD EX problem tried another disc? I'd like to try another Clone Wars BD, but don't want to go through the trouble of returning something if I don't have to.

Has anyone with the TrueHD EX problem tried another disc? I'd like to try another Clone Wars BD, but don't want to go through the trouble of returning something if I don't have to.

I may rent it from Netflix to compare. If I do I'll post here.

I made contact with panasonic.. and they are going to look into the problem with the trueHD with bitstreaming from onyko 605 and the panasonic 30 bluray player.. its going to take a few days or so to get a response.

Jacob

We actually liked it and had fun watching it with the nieces and nephew... :)

The TrueHD track plays fine on the Onkyo 606...

the onkyo 605 is not alone to having problems with the panasonic bd-30 player when it comes to playing back Clone Wars. The onkyo 805 is doing the same thing too. Considering i can only toggle through only 3 different surround modes on the Onkyo, my guess is its the bd-30. im not gonna lose sleep over this though. fortuneatly i did get it to work long enough to be able to watch the movie.
i am going to buy either the bd-55 or the sony 550 after black friday anyways. its stupid to have to update your blu-ray player just so you can watch a particular movie on it like Transformers.

I didn't see this in the theater but enjoyed it tremendously, playing on a Sammy 1400 TrueHD through the analog connections was shaking my house.

Lots of special features but seeing clips of the the old films in HD was a teaser.

Does anyone know if this title has been ranked in the PQ tier thread? in which tier would you place it?

Does anyone know if this title has been ranked in the PQ tier thread? in which tier would you place it?

It hasn't been placed because absolute perfection is untierable. ;)

LucasFilm today revealed plans to release the first four episodes of Star Wars The Clone Wars: Season One exclusively on DVD in late March.

In the same announcement, LucasFilm confirmed a multi-disc box set is in the works for the complete first season of the series that will be released on DVD and Blu-ray Disc. That set is expected to arrive later this year, most likely timed to coincide with the debut of season two on The Cartoon Network.

For the season one DVD and Blu-ray Disc set, LucasFilm is currently producing a number of bonus features that include "explorations of the behind-the-scenes creation of the hit series." http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Star_Wars_The_Clone_Wars_on_Blu-ray_Later_this_Year/4117

Very cool. The series is turning out to be better than I thought it would be.

Great news!!!

I'm glad that this is because I could not watch the 480i version on TV.

I find it slightly ironic that this TV show is the best thing Lucas has been involved with since the 80's.

I find it slightly ironic that this TV show is the best thing Lucas has been involved with since the 80's.And that's not saying much. It ain't that good.

Awesome news!

I find it slightly ironic that this TV show is the best thing Lucas has been involved with since the 80's.

Pretty much and, not coincidentally, his 'involvement' in minimal at best.

Awesome TrueHD and I'm sold on it.:) But who in the hell is going to buy just 4 episodes?:confused: Would they offer the remaining episodes separately too?

BTW - still holding my breath for the superior 'artsy' Clone Wars in HD.:cool:

great! bought clone wars a week ago or something and didnt think it was going to be good but i really liked it and I am really looking forward to see more of it.
I only wish I didnt have to wait so long for it...

great! bought clone wars a week ago or something and didnt think it was going to be good but i really liked it and I am really looking forward to see more of it.
I only wish I didnt have to wait so long for it...

That's a totally different "Clone Wars" than what we're talking about and is currently airing on Cartoon Network.

Awesome TrueHD and I'm sold on it.:) But who in the hell is going to buy just 4 episodes?:confused: Would they offer the remaining episodes separately too?The 4-episode set is DVD only. They're waiting for the complete season to put it on Blu-ray.

That's a totally different "Clone Wars" than what we're talking about and is currently airing on Cartoon Network.

no its the same series, the movie is like the pilot episode.

no its the same series, the movie is like the pilot episode.

No...you're confused. He wasn't talking about the movie. He was talking about the other series that aired a few years ago.

Yeah, it's confusing:

Star Wars: Clone Wars is the 2003 traditionally-animated series from Genndy Tartakovsky. Star Wars: The Clone Wars is the 2008 CG movie and series directly from Lucas.

I'm even more confused I recently bought the clone wars on bd was that an episode of season 1? To be honest unless I've missed it I have not seen it air here in west Australia.

I'm even more confused I recently bought the clone wars on bd was that an episode of season 1? To be honest unless I've missed it I have not seen it air here in west Australia.No, that was the movie. It's part of the current series, but it's kind of a like a 90-minute pilot episode that happened to get a major theatrical release.

I'm even more confused I recently bought the clone wars on bd was that an episode of season 1? To be honest unless I've missed it I have not seen it air here in west Australia.

Here's how it breaks down:

1) Star Wars: Clone Wars - A series of traditionally-animated cartoon shorts that ran on cable TV in 2003. These are available on DVD in 2 volumes.

2) Star Wars: The Clone Wars - A CGI-animated feature film released in the summer of 2008. This is what you bought on Blu-ray.

3) Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Also the name of a CGI-animated series currently running on The Cartoon Network in the US. Reportedly, the first season will be released on Blu-ray at the end of this year.

What makes things even more confusing is that #2 was originally meant to be the pilot episode for #3. But George Lucas took a look at it and thought he could wring a few extra bucks out of it by releasing it as a theatrical feature first.

Well is this gonna suck as bad as the clone wars movie that was released this past summer.

Well is this gonna suck as bad as the clone wars movie that was released this past summer.

If you didn't like the movie, you won't like this. It's the same show.

I did not think the movie was great, but I did enjoy it. Some episodes of the show are the same level as the movie, but in my opinion, many are much better than the movie.

Either way it is great action, pristine video, and great audio. The movie on Blu looks great. The show on cartoon network on cable looks AWFUL, can't wait to see (and hear) these episodes on blu.

The movie on Blu looks great. The show on cartoon network on cable looks AWFUL, can't wait to see (and hear) these episodes on blu.
The show looks GREAT on Cartoon Network HD. Still can't wait for the BDs though.

I'm not a total Jar-jar hater, but in the show he is a million times worse than he was in Episode I. They can leave every episode involving him off of the set and I might actually pay a little more for it that way :D

In the most recent ep. the battle droids actually did some damage and killed a bunch of clones. In the prequels for the most part they were ridiculously inept.
The show is actually pretty good most of the time and sometimes VERY good. much better than Ep.1 and II

http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000764.html
The next few eps. look very cool....
Will the AR on the BD be 2:35-1? Cartoon Network HD airs them in 16x9 and they looked zoomed. Side info. is often missing and the opening line each week, (words on screen like "a long time ago...") is 2:35-1. And the above trailer is 2:35-1

I hate that stupid animation style.:mad: I just can't get over how plain nasty it looks. That being said I'm definitely buying season 1 on BD.
Star Wars means epic action, heroes and villains, humour, adventure and imagination. Like the movies The Clone Wars transports you to a galaxy far, far away, and has provided some of 2009’s most dazzling moments of telly – the droid commandoes’ assault in Rookies, the attack run in Shadow of Malevolence, Artoo’s duel in Duel of the Droids, all of Cloak of Darkness. And it’s animated in the action-friendly 2.35 aspect ratio.
http://movies.sky.com/10-things-weve-learnt-from-episodes-1-10-of-star-wars-the-clone-wars

Figures Warner would Eff up a broadcast of their own property. Stupid A-holes.
Sky got it right. Good eye Dave Mack. Cant wait to see these for the first time in OAR, if Warner gets it right.
Fingers crossed Lucas does the work and Warner just replicates and distributes.

First series ever in 2.35:1:D Sweet. Animated series at that.

Found this while doing the google for AR info. My guess is that whoever did the comparison incorrectly labeled it 2.39, close enough.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8283/comparisson2tp4.jpg
Another onehttp://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1378/comparisson1aw4.jpg

edit - I should know this. But are 2.35, 2.39, 2.40 all interchangeable?

Here's how it breaks down:

1) Star Wars: Clone Wars - A series of traditionally-animated cartoon shorts that ran on cable TV in 2003. These are available on DVD in 2 volumes.

2) Star Wars: The Clone Wars - A CGI-animated feature film released in the summer of 2008. This is what you bought on Blu-ray.

3) Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Also the name of a CGI-animated series currently running on The Cartoon Network in the US. Reportedly, the first season will be released on Blu-ray at the end of this year.

What makes things even more confusing is that #2 was originally meant to be the pilot episode for #3. But George Lucas took a look at it and thought he could wring a few extra bucks out of it by releasing it as a theatrical feature first.

Thanks for the clarification!

I hate that stupid animation style.:mad: I just can't get over how plain nasty it looks. That being said I'm definitely buying season 1 on BD.

http://movies.sky.com/10-things-weve-learnt-from-episodes-1-10-of-star-wars-the-clone-wars

Figures Warner would Eff up a broadcast of their own property. Stupid A-holes.
Sky got it right. Good eye Dave Mack. Cant wait to see these for the first time in OAR, if Warner gets it right.
Fingers crossed Lucas does the work and Warner just replicates and distributes.

First series ever in 2.35:1:D Sweet. Animated series at that.

Found this while doing the google for AR info. My guess is that whoever did the comparison incorrectly labeled it 2.39, close enough.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8283/comparisson2tp4.jpg
Another onehttp://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1378/comparisson1aw4.jpg

edit - I should know this. But are 2.35, 2.39, 2.40 all interchangeable?


NICE work, Shadow! Looks MUCH better composition-wise in 2:39-1.

:)

Here's how it breaks down:
What makes things even more confusing is that #2 was originally meant to be the pilot episode for #3. But George Lucas took a look at it and thought he could wring a few extra bucks out of it by releasing it as a theatrical feature first.

What I can't find out from any of the online info at present is whether the season 1 box set of The Clone Wars will include the 2008 theatrical film or not. Nothing I have read states that it will be part of it, but it would seem natural. On the other hand, I would not be surprised if Lucasfilm prefers that we purchase both separately. Anyone know about this yet?

What I can't find out from any of the online info at present is whether the season 1 box set of The Clone Wars will include the 2008 theatrical film or not. Nothing I have read states that it will be part of it, but it would seem natural. On the other hand, I would not be surprised if Lucasfilm prefers that we purchase both separately. Anyone know about this yet?

I would not expect the movie to be included in the tv series release set.

Why do they keep telling the Clone Wars stories? We've seen it in Attack of the clones, expanded with the cartoon series from 5 years ago, plus a feature movie and another series. Surely there are more interesting stories to tell than beating the dead clone wars horse? How about some post Episode 3 stuff, formation of the rebel alliance, the construction of the death star, things like that?

There are a lot of stories to be told about what happens during the clone wars.

As far as telling other stories there are more Star Wars projects in the works that will do that (a live action show is coming in 2010 I believe).

Some info from last weekends Star Wars Panel at Wondercon. Bounty Hunters were originally not going to be in the series. But the creators changed their minds thinking it would make the series more interesting. So the last episode this season will introduce a character named Cad Bane. He's modeled after Lee Van Cleefs character in The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly.

http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2009/02/28/report-from-wondercon-2009-lucasfilm-presentation-part-ii-meet-cad-bane/#more-1312

Filoni also mentioned the process for making the series is much more advanced now than when they first made the movie. They are using much more bandwidth now. You will notice the series looking more robust and detailed with each episode.

And for those of you who love the clones, here is a sneek peak at one of the new units coming out next season. Filoni made up a new clone unit to pay homage to a WWII infantry unit, The Fighting 104th Timberwolves.
Here's a pic from our dinner with him holding a helmet he painted.
http://goldengategarrison.com/gallery2/d/135947-2/IMG_2962.jpg

There are a lot of stories to be told about what happens during the clone wars.

I'm in the category of people who thinks the clone wars as they've been depicted is not all that compelling. That's just my opinion of course.

Do we have a definite date on its release?

the only way that panasonic will be able to fix the trueHD on the pansonic 30 is for people to call in and report it. the phone number: 1-800-211-7262
I have already called in.. but others will have to do that too.
it will help alot if other people call in and report this problem. then they can fix it.
thanks.

Jacob

I am still trying to figure out why i am not getting trueHD on star wars. I did find out something interesting.. if you are still having problems playing the star wars with the trueHD.. please hook the bluray player directly to your tv and get sound out of the tv. if you get sound when playing star wars in trueHD.. then its a receiver problem and not the bluray player.
please let me know if this works for you.
thanks.
Jacob

ReleaseLists.com is reporting a November 3 release, but I don't know where they got the info from. I'm wondering how accurate that is, since apparently the 2nd season starts airing a month before that, on October 2.

Noting something from earlier in the thread:
Star Wars: Clone Wars is the 2003 traditionally-animated series from Genndy Tartakovsky

..and is a MUCH better show. Genndy really knows what hes doing.

Personally, I am enjoying both series. The first one was great considering it was done in 5 minute increments, but it limited what they could do. The new series gives clone troopers some excellent characterization and looks awesome.

Saw a demo of the discs today. There's going to be a ton of bonus features on them and it also looks like they're in their OAR of 2.35:1!

ReleaseLists.com is reporting a November 3 release, but I don't know where they got the info from. I'm wondering how accurate that is, since apparently the 2nd season starts airing a month before that, on October 2.Isn't there a SW video game coming this Fall? Video releases are usually tied to game releases, so I would expect TCW BD to be out around the same time as that game. Corporate synergy and all that...

Isn't there a SW video game coming this Fall? Video releases are usually tied to game releases, so I would expect TCW BD to be out around the same time as that game. Corporate synergy and all that...

There is not only a Clone Wars videogame (which I also saw some of) but Season 2 of the Clone Wars is starting.

There is not only a Clone Wars videogame (which I also saw some of) but Season 2 of the Clone Wars is starting.Okay, did some digging. The release date for "Star Wars The Clone Wars: Republic Heroes" video game is 9/15, a few weeks before Season 2 debuts. Perfect time to release Season 1 on BD.

Here's the promo picture that I received:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2952/clonewars.png

I'm so hyped about this!

Looking forward watching this in its entirety.

I have the exact same problem. I have a Samsung BD-P1500 and 605. I switched my player to "PCM" and it played fine with TrueHD, but can't tell if the EX is there or not. I wonder if the Onkyo does need a FW update.

Just wanted to update that I recently upgraded to the Onkyo 806, and it picks up the bitsreamed TrueHD EX flag just fine. I never got it to work on the 605. But at least I know it was the Onkyo that was the problem.

ReleaseLists.com is reporting a November 3 release, but I don't know where they got the info from. I'm wondering how accurate that is, since apparently the 2nd season starts airing a month before that, on October 2.

I inquired about the box set at a local specialist DVD store and was told that the BD box will be at least 4 discs containing 22 episodes, all 1080P, all Scope 2.39:1 [16:9].

I thought TV series were all in lots of 12 or 13 episodes per series?

Can anyone confirm this info?

And for Franin, that this box set will be $99AUD locally.

It depends, typically in America major network shows are 22 episodes except for 24 which is 24...and Lost which changes depending on the rotation of the earth. Show that networks don't have faith in can have 12 or 13(mid-season replacements). And shows on pay cable are usually 12 or 6 episodes long, and then Curb your enthusiasm is 10 episodes.

According to Wikipedia each season is 22 eps.

I'm down for this but I'm waiting for a good price and some reviews before I pull the trigger.

Definitely being released on Nov 3rd. It shows two discs for what is being offered.

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Clone-Complete-Blu-ray/dp/B001PO53IO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1256567748&sr=1-2

Anything Star Wars on BD is a must have, especially at that price.

looking forward to watching the fill season of this, i missed a lot of the episodes when it was on tv.

looks like it is coming out in one of those digibooks (hate them) so i'm hoping someone does a custom cover for this.

A review for the box set has come out: http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/The-Clone-Wars-The-Complete-Season-One-Blu-ray.shtml

First, the disappointing bit: This is a Star Wars-branded product, a Blu-ray disc, and the maximum quality available is Dolby Digital 5.1. I could hardly believe the menus, but this is indeed the only format here, accessible in five different languages.

I'm somehow not surprised given Warner's complete lack of lossless for all the TV series they've released (except for the stuff produced by the BBC or HBO) and most of the animation on Blu they've done, but I figured Star Wars would have been an exception. Guess I was wrong.

There's a lot of things I don't like about this series, but as a SW fan I was planning on buying it anyways. Now I'll just rent it.

And each disc will probably have 20GBs free too.

A review for the box set has come out: http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/The-Clone-Wars-The-Complete-Season-One-Blu-ray.shtml



I'm somehow not surprised given Warner's complete lack of lossless for all the TV series they've released (except for the stuff produced by the BBC or HBO) and most of the animation on Blu they've done, but I figured Star Wars would have been an exception. Guess I was wrong.

There's a lot of things I don't like about this series, but as a SW fan I was planning on buying it anyways. Now I'll just rent it.

Sheesh, this is freakin ridiculous. :mad:

The audio still seems to be great regardless but I'm a bit disappointed. Think I'll rent before buying to make sure.

I hate to repeat myself; The world needs Warner to recognize they are inept THE SINGLE WORST BD STUDIO.

Doesn't Lucasfilm share some of the blame? When the original Clone Wars DVDs (first series years ago) came out on DVD they were just DD2.0 PL yes? Not 5.1. Seems they are again behind the technological curve....

Doesn't Lucasfilm share some of the blame? When the original Clone Wars DVDs (first series years ago) came out on DVD they were just DD2.0 PL yes? Not 5.1. Seems they are again behind the technological curve....
I don't think so, Warner has done 5.1DD for every single TV release thus far. They just don't give a damn.

Gotcha.
shame

Doesn't Lucasfilm share some of the blame? When the original Clone Wars DVDs (first series years ago) came out on DVD they were just DD2.0 PL yes? Not 5.1. Seems they are again behind the technological curve....

Vol. 1 was 2.0 surround & Vol. 2 was 5.1

Vol. 1 was 2.0 surround & Vol. 2 was 5.1

that's right

some early onkyo receiver needed a free firmware update.. turns out that I needed one for my onkyo 605 and sent the receiver in and got the firmware.. the star wars clone wars has trueHD EX. now it will play fine.. call the onkyo and send your reciever to get the update.

Jacob

When the original Clone Wars DVDs (first series years ago) came out on DVD...
Why no "original" CN "Clone Wars" on BD?

\the star wars clone wars has trueHD EX. now it will play fine.. call the onkyo and send your reciever to get the update.

I live in a region B country, so naturally bought the local version.

I don't have an Onkyo AVR, I have a Pioneer and it displays the DD track as flagged EX and the DDTrHD as 5.1 only. Of course with THX processing, I can select either THX EX or THX Cinema 2 to recover the back surround information. I just find it interesting that the same title will have a different sound option pending the region. The worst case I know of is Rambo which is distributed by SONY here and does not have the 7.1 soundtrack that the A (Lion's Gate) does, rather a 5.1 sountrack track.

For those of you interested in the upcoming Season One BD release, Amazon has a very good price on it right now (and you still get their pre-release price guarantee).

Scott

It's currently at 42% off, which is pretty standard for Amazon. I'm sure it will be available for less soon after release, especially with the holidays coming up.

some early onkyo receiver needed a free firmware update.. turns out that I needed one for my onkyo 605 and sent the receiver in and got the firmware.. the star wars clone wars has trueHD EX. now it will play fine.. call the onkyo and send your reciever to get the update.

Jacob

That isn't the case with Season 1. There is no lossless audio.

Why no "original" CN "Clone Wars" on BD?It looks like the DVDs are out of print. Maybe they were just never that popular.

I was talking about the clone wars feature animated movie, and not the series.

Jacob

This is actually The Clone Wars movie thread.

Has anyone with the TrueHD EX problem tried another disc? I'd like to try another Clone Wars BD, but don't want to go through the trouble of returning something if I don't have to.

I don't think it is the disc or the decoder.

I have a Pioneer and it displays the DD track as flagged EX and the DDTrHD as 5.1 only.

I just re-read the earlier pages and there is a post that supports my findings.
The point is, both DD EX or TrHD are both just delivery systems and the back surround material is present in both versions of the soundtrack.

This is actually The Clone Wars movie thread.

Don't look at me, I didn't purposefully bump a thread that started last year that was originally about the movie and not the series. A mod merged my post about the lossy-only Series 1 release with it.

Don't look at me, I didn't purposefully bump a thread that started last year that was originally about the movie and not the series. A mod merged my post about the lossy-only Series 1 release with it.

wasn't looking at anyone in particular, just saw it was getting confused here. There should be a separate thread as it is a separate release.

the only other disc that has the trueHD ex was the bluray digital calibration disc. once I got it working on the clone wars then the digital calibration disc worked fine.
here is a link to the disc that I am talking about.

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-Essentials-Basics-Blu-ray/dp/B000V6LST0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1256879435&sr=8-1

Jacob

the only other disc that has the trueHD ex was the bluray digital calibration disc. once I got it working on the clone wars then the digital calibration disc worked fine.
here is a link to the disc that I am talking about.

http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=632940698&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336055023&toolid=10001 http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-Essentials-Basics-Blu-ray/dp/B000V6LST0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1256879435&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FDigital-Video-Essentials-Basics-Blu-ray%2Fdp%2FB000V6LST0%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Ddvd%2 6qid%3D1256879435%26sr%3D8-1&tag=5336055023-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325)

Jacob

EX decoding works for both flagged and non flagged discs. I am just going through different chapters on that disc now and the soundtrack is DDTrHD, however it is not flagged (the DVD with DD is) and the surround decoder defaults to THX EX. I am about to check my copy of THE CLONE WARS.

OK, Loaded the disc. Mine is a region B version.

Audio defaults to DD5.1 for the THX trailor.
Audio is DD surround sound encoded for menues.
Audio is DDEX flagged as default for main feature.
Audio is DDTrHD 5.1 for main feature.

mine is flagged as trueHD EX. its region A.

Jacob

Interesting. Would you care to capture and post a shot of your AVR's front panel for the JPK disc though? I have the same region free disc and that does not show an EX flag either.

My player is the Samsung BD-P1500 and the AVR is a Pioneer THX1018.

Interesting. Would you care to capture and post a shot of your AVR's front panel for the JPK disc though? I have the same region free disc and that does not show an EX flag either.

My player is the Samsung BD-P1500 and the AVR is a Pioneer THX1018.

Do you have secondary audio on? This might be over-riding the processing of the EX channel.

fiprod

Do you have secondary audio on? This might be over-riding the processing of the EX channel.

fiprod

No. The only audio (english) options on this disc are DD 5.1(EX flagged) and TrHD 5.1.

THX EX processing works regardless of the flag as the back surround information is matrix encoded into the Left and Right Surround channels. A flaged disc means that my decoder would automatically select that decoder mode where I have to manually engage THX EX.

It doesn't really matter as I prefer to listen to THX Cinema 2 anyway. I find the surrounds to be more enveloping with that mode over THX EX on the same soundtrack at the same listening levels.

My gripe is really that with BD running 1080/24P and lossless sound that the only differences should be a region coding.

did you play the demo stuff in 1080P? that is where I got the trueHD ex. I also had to click on the receiver button to get the EX to show up. I got the onkyo 605 receiver.

Jacob

any reviews of the new S1 set yet?

Neither Target nor Best Buy had this on Blu-ray today--just one or two copies of the DVD set.

i got my copy in today from amazon....

How long does anazon usually take? The Australian releae has been held back now until the 18th :mad:

How long does anazon usually take? The Australian releae has been held back now until the 18th :mad:


it depends on where my order has shipped from but i usually get my stuff the next day. i'm a prime member so i get second day shipping but i'm close enough to one of they warehouses that i get most of my stuff the next day.

None of the Futureshops and Bestbuys in Canada received any copies and Amazon.ca is "out of stock". Wonder what the issue is.

Wonder what the issue is.

Then it would appear that it is more popular than first thought :rolleyes:

My copy was waiting on me when I got home tonight. Amazon has been very good lately at having new release titles arrive on Tues for me. The packaging is pretty kick ass I must say. The book is very sturdy and has nice gold embossed raised lettering with the art book attached to the inside spine. The entire artwork features foil highlights. Very well done!!! Let's hope that subsequent seasons keep this style.

did you play the demo stuff in 1080P? that is where I got the trueHD ex. I also had to click on the receiver button to get the EX to show up. I got the onkyo 605 receiver.

Jacob

I am playing it right now. Attached is a photo of what the dislay shows for both JPK and SWCW disc. There is no EX flag present for both discs and both discs turn the decoder to THX EX as the default. I can then select THX Cinema2 processing.

The HD Basic disc flashes up a DIALNORM+4 which indicates that the program (average level of dialogue) is 4dB too loud or recorded at -23dBFS instead of the correct -27dBFS. SWCW is THX certifed, so the DN reading does not show as the program is mastered at the correct level.

So how is the PQ/SQ?

I tried to buy this at Best Buy and Target today and both were sold out.

Why are these box stores not stocking more product???

Had the same problem in Chicago, all the Best Buy's were sold out of this title, also no copies at FYE or Borders, it's so frustrating to see stacks of dvd's which will likely never be sold, GIVE US BLU!

They definitely underestimated demand for this title, all the Best Buys in Chicago were sold out of this title, dvd only, hopefully more come in soon