ricwhite
09-28-08, 12:00 PM
It would be interesting to see exactly which Bond movies Blu-ray fans are buying on this first round of releases.
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View Full Version : Bond Movies: Which Are You Buying? ricwhite 09-28-08, 12:00 PM It would be interesting to see exactly which Bond movies Blu-ray fans are buying on this first round of releases. Malcolm_B 09-28-08, 12:05 PM All the Connery ones and Live and Let Die. Shane Martin 09-28-08, 12:11 PM All of them. MovieSwede 09-28-08, 12:18 PM It gonna depend on the price. I already bought the Bond collection twice (VHS and DVD) so I dont fell any hurry (I need money for food aswell) to buy them this time around, but on the other hand, I said the same with the DVD. I just bought one for the fun of it, and one more, and another one etc etc. Sell them for 15$ And the collecting will start. Gary Murrell 09-28-08, 12:23 PM ALL!!!! -Gary audiomixer 09-28-08, 12:29 PM All of them. I work on the FOX lot in Century City. FOX distributes MGM titles in their studio store for 1/3 retail. Quite a deal! rdclark 09-28-08, 12:48 PM The only Bonds I will double-dip are the Connery titles. I will also buy the new Casino Royale, because I don't yet own a copy. /personal opinion/ As someone who was reading the Fleming novels before the first movie was made, I have never been able to accept Roger Moore as Bond. Dalton was better, but the movies were bad; Brosnan was OK, but the movies were just idiotic. I really like Craig as Bond and hope the franchise lives up to the promise shown in the CR reboot. bassmonkeee 09-28-08, 12:56 PM Well, originally I was only planning on getting the three Connery titles and Live and Let Die. But, then I saw the Bond 6-pack at Amazon for $112. $16 more for two more movies? I might have to go ahead and get that, instead... cnikirk 09-28-08, 01:09 PM ALL!!!! -Gary Ditto, although not all Bond films are created equal. I'm a completist:) toxic_avenger 09-28-08, 01:35 PM I preordered all Connery titles. I'll rent the others because I've never seen them. Decado2 09-28-08, 01:41 PM It gonna depend on the price. Ditto. At their current projected price...none of them. Also depends on the transfer. These are old films...I'm not sure how big of an improvement we can expect. jvillain 09-28-08, 02:29 PM Also depends on the transfer. These are old films...I'm not sure how big of an improvement we can expect. The early films like Dr. No are amazing. The middle films at least what I have seen on the HD movie channel aren't as good. There is a big honkin thread around here that helps to explain why. There are some really good screen caps floating around as well. Ditto, although not all Bond films are created equal. I'm a completist Couldn't have said it better. BigDad 09-28-08, 02:57 PM I'd have to have a Walther PPK to my head to make me buy Die Another Day again ... but in this first round, I'm in for all the Connery's - and For Your Eyes Only. As they're released, I plan on picking up all of the Connery ones on BR, maybe the Daltons, and can NOT wait to get On Her Majesty's Secret Service. As for the rest - I have the entire UE Collection on DVD, so I can live with those. Dizzyboy 09-28-08, 04:08 PM All of them, once the reviews are out and its been confirmed that their grain structure hasn't been smudged out. vamovie 09-28-08, 09:16 PM iam going for die another day i wish they would release all pierce bosnan bond films jmscott42 09-28-08, 10:19 PM I've bought the complete set 3 times already. (VHS and the 2 DVD sets-- luckily I didn't pay full MSRP at launch for any of them) I'll be waiting for a very good deal before jumping in this time (I can't believe how fast the most recent set dropped in price). That said, I will eventually own all of them on BR... making the 4th time I've bought all of these movies. ;) I'll probably at least rent a couple of the new releases, though, just to see what the fuss is about. Gary Murrell 09-29-08, 01:28 AM I'd have to have a Walther PPK to my head to make me buy Die Another Day again ... but in this first round, I'm in for all the Connery's - and For Your Eyes Only. As they're released, I plan on picking up all of the Connery ones on BR, maybe the Daltons, and can NOT wait to get On Her Majesty's Secret Service. As for the rest - I have the entire UE Collection on DVD, so I can live with those. oops, I agree and didn't even notice Cry Another Day was one of them, no way I buy that POS remember about that PPK, Bond's is .32ACP not .380ACP as most people think :D :p -Gary Dr_Kn0w 09-29-08, 07:48 AM Dr. No of course ;) ....along with the other Sean Connery Bonds... Jim Morrison 09-29-08, 07:59 AM Just the Connery films for me. Art Sonneborn 09-29-08, 09:30 AM Dr No, From Russia With Love,Thunderball, Goldfinger and On Her Majesty's Secret Service are complete no brainer buys for me. So, those in the first group I will get ASAP. Art MSmith83 09-29-08, 09:45 AM I'm getting all of them as they come along. While I find some entries to be vastly superior to others (the Connery and Dalton films are my favorites), I find merit in every Bond film. Gary Murrell 09-29-08, 09:55 AM I find merit in every Bond film. I agree with that 100%, but I just can't include DAD in that, it is too far gone for me:( -Gary robertc88 09-29-08, 10:24 AM I don't have any of the boxes cause I didn't want all the movies. Something tells me now I'll end up getting most of them anyway. This BD thingy is killing my wallet! :) thewretched22 09-29-08, 03:24 PM All of them assasyn 09-29-08, 03:42 PM All of them. What he said. Morpheo 09-29-08, 04:34 PM All of them except Live And Let Die. For now.... N.B. Forrest 09-29-08, 06:33 PM Dr No, From Russia With Love,Thunderball, Goldfinger and On Her Majesty's Secret Service are complete no brainer buys for me. So, those in the first group I will get ASAP. Art +1, except for OHMSS. Art, do you REALLY like George Lazenby? ricwhite 09-29-08, 11:59 PM So, I take it that anything with the word "Die" in the title is not very good. MSmith83 09-30-08, 12:10 AM So, I take it that anything with the word "Die" in the title is not very good. Coincidentally, I don't think many people will be fond of the theme song for Quantum of Solace, which happens to be titled "Another Way to Die." BigDad 09-30-08, 12:13 AM Coincidentally, I don't think many people will be fond of the theme song for Quantum of Solace, which happens to be titled "Another Way to Die." Yeah, it's pretty bad - almost as bad as Madonna's contribution. giantchicken 09-30-08, 04:51 AM I ordered the six pack from Amazon for $112. This will be my first time revisiting DAD since the first time in theaters--I wish they would have given us ANY other one instead in the first wave. DarkKnight2k4 09-30-08, 08:59 AM One by one... all Connery !!! jokerfish 09-30-08, 10:50 AM I dont think im that eager to upgrade.....the DVD sets are really fantastic but Its more about the cost issue than anything for me. I cant afford to upgrade now. But I would love the connery ones. Nosferax 09-30-08, 11:50 AM +1, except for OHMSS. Art, do you REALLY like George Lazenby? Lazenby was a great Bond, way better than Moore or Dalton. Too bad he only made one. MelloFellow13 09-30-08, 12:53 PM I have the Bond collector's set on DVD (got the gold box deal for $96), so I intend to rent a couple, probably Die Another Day and Thunderball so I can compare. If the difference is amazing then I'll probably end up buying the Blu's and finding a home for my old Bond DVDs. We'll see. aaronwt 09-30-08, 12:59 PM I have all of them pre-ordered! ricwhite 09-30-08, 02:33 PM Yeah, it's pretty bad - almost as bad as Madonna's contribution. Why is it so hard to come up with a good Bond theme song. They used to be quite good. (For Your Eyes Only, for example). ANY artist would jump at the opportunity to spring-board a song. They can choose just about anyone. I just find it odd that they can't find a good song. dvdmike007 09-30-08, 02:35 PM I thought everyone was like me and getting the box set and the Casino double dip ! I already have my Quantum ticket browerjs 09-30-08, 02:45 PM What is the point of not releasing the movies in order? Will2007 09-30-08, 03:08 PM Why is it so hard to come up with a good Bond theme song. They used to be quite good. (For Your Eyes Only, for example). ANY artist would jump at the opportunity to spring-board a song. They can choose just about anyone. I just find it odd that they can't find a good song. The best one is still Carly Simon's "Nobody Does It Better." That's followed by Paul McCartney's "Live and Let Die" and Shirley Bassey's "Goldfinger." dvdmike007 09-30-08, 03:15 PM Living daylights View to a kill For your eyes only Are great themes Art Sonneborn 09-30-08, 03:55 PM Lazenby was a great Bond, way better than Moore or Dalton. Too bad he only made one. Yes, I thought Lazenby was a great Bond. Art giantchicken 09-30-08, 04:00 PM Why is it so hard to come up with a good Bond theme song. They used to be quite good. (For Your Eyes Only, for example). ANY artist would jump at the opportunity to spring-board a song. They can choose just about anyone. I just find it odd that they can't find a good song. I really liked the last one. One of my favorites from the series. ricwhite 09-30-08, 08:52 PM Nobody Does it Better and For Your Eyes Only are the two most memorable Bond theme songs that come to mind. Art Sonneborn 09-30-08, 09:34 PM Nobody Does it Better and For Your Eyes Only are the two most memorable Bond theme songs that come to mind. So the theme from Goldfinger doesn't ? Art Samfield 09-30-08, 09:52 PM I'm in for all the Bonds (yes, even DAD) and my vote for best theme song is Tom Jones' "Thunderball". I used to own the Thunderball soundtrack LP in the day and the cover art was very cool... aaronwt 09-30-08, 09:55 PM Live and Let Die is the one I rememeber most. Although I do have them all, well at least the older ones(and the Madonna one) on my Zune player. Quikzilver 09-30-08, 10:07 PM Holy crap, not at all what I expected. I was expecting an overwhelming weight for Die Another Day but I was dead wrong, lol. I just bought the 4 volumes of DVD's so I don't see myself rebuying the old ones on BD, just Die Another Day. ricwhite 09-30-08, 11:06 PM So the theme from Goldfinger doesn't ? Art Goldfinger. He's the man, the man with the midas touch. Yeah, classic. But I like Nobody Does it Better and For Your Eyes Only better. Live and Let Die is also memorable, but, again, not as likable to me. In fact, I'd probably put in third place All Time High by Rita Coolidge (Octopussy). By the way, Another Way to Die sung by Alicia Keyes (I think) for the new Bond movie sounds pretty bad, IMO. Maybe not quite on Madonna level, but not far away. Just youtubed it and didn't like it at all. CHG 09-30-08, 11:39 PM I will start with the Connery titles. Will probably end up with them all, eventually. comptr 10-01-08, 05:08 PM ALL!!!! -Gary same here all of them I am big bond fan Will2007 10-01-08, 05:31 PM Goldfinger. He's the man, the man with the midas touch. Yeah, classic. But I like Nobody Does it Better and For Your Eyes Only better. Well, man, if you're going to start reciting lyrics... "When you were young and your heart was an open book, You used to say 'Live and let live,' (You know you did you know you did you know you did)..." Heh. Anyway, my vote for #1 is still "Nobody Does It Better." It not only works great as a Bond Theme, but it's a great song on its own merits and is timeless. As Thom Yorke of Radiohead puts it in the intro to their cover of it, "This is the sexiest song ever written." Yeah, when Carly sings it I would have to say it is one of the sexiest songs ever sung too. FoxyMulder 10-01-08, 05:57 PM For me the best Bond theme is For Your Eyes Only.....Moves me a lot that theme. Can't wait till they announce On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Goldfinger and You Only Live Twice. From this list i would buy From Russia With Love, Dr No and For Your Eyes Only although i might be tempted to give Die Another Day another spin as i thought Halle Berry was good in it even if the second half of the film was slightly corny ( First half i really enjoyed ) kdssrugby 10-01-08, 06:01 PM I still say "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" is one of the best Bond Themes. FoxyMulder 10-01-08, 06:13 PM I still say "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" is one of the best Bond Themes. I agree...That was a completely musical score and a great one at that....Although What a wonderful world featured within the actual movie and was a great song too. BigDad 10-01-08, 08:32 PM Although What a wonderful world featured within the actual movie and was a great song too. It was actually "We Have All the Time in the World" - but it was also Louis Armstrong. UxiSXRD 10-01-08, 09:00 PM Parts of Die Another Day are definitely cringe worthy (anything wih Halle Berry, and the Madonna part, especially), I do enjoy other parts (mostly the intro). Eventually I'll probably get all but will probably be waiting for a BOGO or B2/3rd free or something like that. jvillain 10-01-08, 09:12 PM 3 best themes in order are Live and let die Nobody does it better For your eyes only davcole 10-01-08, 10:46 PM i agree...that was a completely musical score and a great one at that.... +2 longhaul747 10-01-08, 11:13 PM I plan to get every Bond film on Blu Ray since its my all time favorite series of films. However I will wait until they are all available first and maybe a little longer and that way I can get them at a discount hopefully. Over Memorial Day weekend I picked up the remastered DVD versions for $25 a set at a local B&M store. I did not really need them since I have the previous box sets as well but for $25 I said what the heck. The transfers are pretty sharp!! My all time favorite Bond film has to be For Your Eyes Only followed closely by The Spy Who Loved Me. Because of my age I tend to prefer Roger Moore as Bond since I grew up watching him be Bond. It all slight though since I enjoy all the Bond films. In fact my wife is a big Bond fan as well and I proposed to her when watching The Spy Who Loved Me. FoxyMulder 10-01-08, 11:30 PM It was actually "We Have All the Time in the World" - but it was also Louis Armstrong. Yah i was tired when i wrote it....It's another oops moment for me forgetting that...What A Wonderful World was in Good Morning Vietnam which was on the gogglebox a few weeks ago in the UK. robertc88 10-02-08, 08:56 AM I plan to get every Bond film on Blu Ray since its my all time favorite series of films. However I will wait until they are all available first and maybe a little longer and that way I can get them at a discount hopefully. Over Memorial Day weekend I picked up the remastered DVD versions for $25 a set at a local B&M store. I did not really need them since I have the previous box sets as well but for $25 I said what the heck. The transfers are pretty sharp!! My all time favorite Bond film has to be For Your Eyes Only followed closely by The Spy Who Loved Me. Because of my age I tend to prefer Roger Moore as Bond since I grew up watching him be Bond. It all slight though since I enjoy all the Bond films. In fact my wife is a big Bond fan as well and I proposed to her when watching The Spy Who Loved Me. Had some of the boxed sets in my hand at Best Buy when with were $25.00 and never bought em. Kept thinking about the BDs but I cannot see how anyone could go wrong at that price. scoobdoo 10-02-08, 10:57 AM iam going for die another day i wish they would release all pierce bosnan bond films Strange that you pointedly would go for the worst Bond since The Man with the Golden Gun. scoobdoo 10-02-08, 11:00 AM Lazenby was a great Bond, way better than Moore or Dalton. Too bad he only made one. Not better than Dalton, who to-date remains the most authentic Fleming Bond incarnation. thebland 10-02-08, 11:01 AM Not better than Dalton, who to-date remains the most authentic Fleming Bond incarnation. Dalton did not translate well on screen. He was a smallish, wimp. Gald they dumped him. thebland 10-02-08, 11:02 AM Live and Let Die for me... kdssrugby 10-02-08, 11:10 AM I thought Dalton was pretty good in The living Daylights (but License to Kill was an awfully written film), and definitely had a menace that was missing since the Connery era. And I don't really think his height was to much of an impediment. Nosferax 10-02-08, 11:29 AM Not better than Dalton, who to-date remains the most authentic Fleming Bond incarnation. Dalton for Bond is like Frank Langella for Dracula not enough macho for the role. dragonyeuw 10-02-08, 11:29 AM I thought Dalton was pretty good in The living Daylights (but License to Kill was an awfully written film), and definitely had a menace that was missing since the Connery era. And I don't really think his height was to much of an impediment. I thought Dalton was 6'2? That's Connery's height,and taller than Brosnan and Moore.If any of the Bonds are 'short',it's Craig.He's what, 5'10 tops? bunkaroo 10-02-08, 11:40 AM I may pick up For Your Eyes Only when it goes on sale. Believe it or not the ones I'm most interested in are View To A Kill and the two Timothy Dalton ones (Licence To Kill, Living Daylights). Art Sonneborn 10-02-08, 12:05 PM I thought Dalton was 6'2? That's Connery's height,and taller than Brosnan and Moore.If any of the Bonds are 'short',it's Craig.He's what, 5'10 tops? According to everything I can find Dalton was the largest Bond, Craig the smallest. Art Nosferax 10-02-08, 12:14 PM According to everything I can find Dalton was the largest Bond, Craig the smallest. Art But he looked and act as if he was on the other side of the fence (nothings against that mind you). I just feel, and that is a highly personnal opinion, that he just didn't project the same macho image that the other did. I also feel that they tend to put the "sidekick" way to much to the front in its movie. But in all fairness that trend was started in the Moore film. I want my James Bond to be desired by women, not be adored by Raoul the hairdresser :-) tiger_qc 10-02-08, 12:20 PM I might get Dr. No and From Russia With Love, I already own Casino Royale. I'm not the biggest fan of Bond movies but I like the first ones with Sean Connery and did'nt like those with Lazenby, Dalton, Moore and I hated the Bond movies involving Pierce Brosman. I think Daniel Craig is the best thing to happen in this franchise since Sean Connery, IMO. ShagMan 10-02-08, 12:28 PM I'm getting the two-pack box set, but might sell off one or two if need be... for < $20 a movie, I'll try them all again, since I've never seen them in a theater-type environment. davcole 10-02-08, 12:53 PM I don't get the Dalton hate? He's the tallest of the Bonds, he was certainly more physical than Moore or Brosnan and unlike some of the other Bond films, his stayed in real plots. Until Casino Royale, The Living Daylights was my favorite Bond film. Now what I will say about Dalton is that those films effectively "neutered" Bond as a rogue-ish sexual being, based on the times. Fortunately that was restored to the series, but that's no indication of Dalton's ability. robertc88 10-02-08, 01:29 PM I'm getting the two-pack box set, but might sell off one or two if need be... for < $20 a movie, I'll try them all again, since I've never seen them in a theater-type environment. Not a bad idea considering buying single BDs of the movies you want is more expensive versus price per movie in a box. It depends on how they are packaged though to try to sell one. Art Sonneborn 10-02-08, 02:14 PM But he looked and act as if he was on the other side of the fence (nothings against that mind you). I just feel, and that is a highly personnal opinion, that he just didn't project the same macho image that the other did. I also feel that they tend to put the "sidekick" way to much to the front in its movie. But in all fairness that trend was started in the Moore film. I want my James Bond to be desired by women, not be adored by Raoul the hairdresser :-) Perhaps but not due to his physical size. Art JimSD 10-02-08, 02:26 PM I'm getting the set with From Russia With Love, Thunderball, and For Your Eyes Only, plus Dr. No as a single. I think we're pretty lucky to be getting 3 Connerys in the first batch of 6. I first saw Bond in the theaters when Roger Moore was Bond, so those will always be some of my favorites. I've mostly experienced the Connery films with the advent of DVD, but I have found them to be more enduring and timeless than most of the last 10 or so Bond films. I liked Brosnan, but thought the scripts he had to work with usually started to bog down after an hour. Although I kind of like The Living Daylights, Dalton just doesn't do it for me. I saw an interview with him on one of the DVDs and could see why - he just had no presence or charisma, at least in my opinion. I love the reboot of the franchise and Casino Royale is my favorite of all. I thought the dialog was so much better in CR than any other Bond and I've rewatched it more in a year and a half than any other 007 movie. browerjs 10-02-08, 02:27 PM I asked this earlier in the thread, but didn't get any response... so here it goes again: Does anyone know why the Bond titles aren't released in order? Why are they spread out? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, I'd guess it's some kind of marketing ploy, but I'm wondering if there might be another reason. Thunderbolt8 10-02-08, 02:37 PM +1, except for OHMSS. Art, do you REALLY like George Lazenby? its not really about lazenby, OHMSS simply is still the best bond for me, just from the story and everything, apart from the actor. just too bad that it wasnt connery in this case, but its not like lazenby destroyes the movie. all bonds is a waste, but many with connery are worth it and also 1-2 with moore. davide 10-02-08, 03:27 PM A review is up for Dr.No and From Russia With Love http://whathifi.com/blogs/discs_and_downloads/archive/2008/10/02/exclusive-blu-ray-reviews-dr-no-amp-from-russia-with-love.aspx thanks robertc88 10-02-08, 04:21 PM Nice find. Thanks! ricwhite 10-03-08, 09:02 AM Does anybody know when the NEXT round of BD Bond movies will be released? davcole 10-03-08, 09:05 AM Does anybody know when the NEXT round of BD Bond movies will be released? I'm sure there will be another round whenever Quantum of Solace is released. davcole 10-03-08, 09:07 AM I thought Dalton was pretty good in The living Daylights (but License to Kill was an awfully written film), and definitely had a menace that was missing since the Connery era. And I don't really think his height was to much of an impediment. You know LICENCE TO KILL was the only time I saw a Bond film and felt they were on a tight budget. The story in itself is not bad, however i'll agree, it's not the best written story, nor are the ancillary characters that interesting. robertc88 10-03-08, 09:35 AM I have the SE two disc set for "DAD". Got it for around $5.00 used. I can understand this one being low on totem pole but I enjoy it when I do watch it. If cheap enough, I'll go for the BD eventually on the used market more than likely. I'm pretty sure it is DTS audio and the sound quality is quite good and the PQ is more than acceptable on the version I own. Evangelo2 10-03-08, 10:35 AM Living daylights View to a kill For your eyes only Are great themes View to a kill was one of my favorite Bond songs. I also like the song Garbage did, The World Is Not Enough... D6500Ken 10-03-08, 02:30 PM All three Connery films for me. Ken Whitcomb tiger_qc 10-03-08, 06:17 PM If they come in a steelbook, I'll get them all! :) MSmith83 10-03-08, 06:48 PM If they come in a steelbook, I'll get them all! :) Has there been talk about these BDs coming in a steelbook? I was looking at some promotional pictures, and the cases certainly look to be steelbook. bgillyjcu 10-03-08, 06:52 PM Love them all but I'll use my NetFlix to get the BluRays! tiger_qc 10-03-08, 07:06 PM Has there been talk about these BDs coming in a steelbook? I was looking at some promotional pictures, and the cases certainly look to be steelbook. It's still a rumor but BestBuy could have steelbook. Will2007 10-03-08, 08:15 PM I also like the song Garbage did, The World Is Not Enough... That is a good song. Good call. Will2007 10-03-08, 08:18 PM You know LICENCE TO KILL was the only time I saw a Bond film and felt they were on a tight budget. The story in itself is not bad, however i'll agree, it's not the best written story, nor are the ancillary characters that interesting. You're a lawyer, aren't you? I ask because how many ordinary non-lawyers casually drop "ancillary" into a conversation? (No worries. I catch myself doing it a lot too :D) davcole 10-03-08, 10:19 PM You're a lawyer, aren't you? I ask because how many ordinary non-lawyers casually drop "ancillary" into a conversation? (No worries. I catch myself doing it a lot too :D) Hehe... sadly not but thanks for the laughs. Just your typical lay person. Rachael Bellomy 10-04-08, 09:08 AM I'm going to get From Russia With Love. I wish Goldfinger had been in the mix. Then, it would of been my single, inital choice. I might get another 1 or 2 when they're on sale later. That's also contingent on how well done these discs turn out to be. I'm not the biggest Bond fan. I like the first dozen or so more. After that, much of the charm was wearing off for me. I never bought many Bond films on DVD, so, I'm open to owning a few of the series. ack_bk 10-04-08, 11:59 AM I have already pre-ordered all of them except "Die Another Day" (thanks to the Amazon Buy 2get3 sale). I just cannot buy that movie on Blu-Ray right now. I have the DVD and have only watched it once after seeing this movie in the theater and I am not sure I want to watch it again anytime soon. The rest are must have's. ack_bk 10-04-08, 12:04 PM I don't get the Dalton hate? He's the tallest of the Bonds, he was certainly more physical than Moore or Brosnan and unlike some of the other Bond films, his stayed in real plots. Until Casino Royale, The Living Daylights was my favorite Bond film. Now what I will say about Dalton is that those films effectively "neutered" Bond as a rogue-ish sexual being, based on the times. Fortunately that was restored to the series, but that's no indication of Dalton's ability. I much prefer Dalton to Roger Moore. Connery is my favorite and I was very pleased with Daniel Craig. He may be #2. I would rank Dalton as #3 and very close to Brosnan. Moore comes in last for me. Decado2 10-04-08, 12:33 PM Moore strikes me as being too soft. Art Sonneborn 10-04-08, 01:55 PM I much prefer Dalton to Roger Moore. Connery is my favorite and I was very pleased with Daniel Craig. He may be #2. I would rank Dalton as #3 and very close to Brosnan. Moore comes in last for me. IMO: Connery Craig Lazenby Dalton Brosnan Moore kdssrugby 10-04-08, 02:33 PM imo: Connery craig lazenby dalton brosnan moore +1 UxiSXRD 10-04-08, 02:43 PM I like: Brosnan Craig Connery Moore Dalton Lazenby jvillain 10-04-08, 03:31 PM This is turning into a thread of lists. But for the record. Brosnan Connery Craig Moore Dalton Lazenby DAD and TND both kind of sucked. But that wasn't Brosnans fault. tiger_qc 10-04-08, 11:00 PM Connery Craig Lazenby Moore Dalton Brosnan Jim Morrison 10-05-08, 07:38 AM Craig Connery Brosnan Dalton Moore Lazenby Electone 10-05-08, 07:59 AM They couldn't pay me enough money to take any of the 'Remington Steele' Bond movies. FYEO was Moore's best outing as they really toughened him up for that movie. The scene where he kicks Locque's car off the cliff is pretty bad-ass for Roger. Connery Craig Moore Dalton Lazenby (although OHMSS is one of the best films) Remington Steele Bladerunner1959 10-05-08, 09:50 AM IMO: Connery Craig Lazenby Dalton Brosnan Moore I fall in line with Art. Best n most badAzz Bonds: Connery, Craig, Lazenby, Dalton, Brosnan...Moore I have all on DVD already: I have CR on Blu and going forward will buy all in Blu for Connery, Craig and OHMSS...an absolute must have on bluray. great pricing will motivate the others for purchase thebland 10-05-08, 09:56 AM Connery Craig Moore Lazenby Brosnan, Dalton ToEhrIsHuman 10-05-08, 11:41 AM okay, i'll play: Connery Craig Dalton Brosnan Moore Lazenby also...the theme songs I have heard/seen live in concert performed by the original artists: "A View to a Kill" - Duran Duran "For Your Eyes Only" - Sheena Easton "Live and Let Die" - Paul McCartney (okay, not Wings but close enough) "Goldeneye" - Tina Turner "Die Another Day" - Madonna (umm..sorta 'live' I guess) Rachael Bellomy 10-05-08, 11:43 AM Get real guys, obviously the greatest Bond of all is Woody Allen as Jimmy Bond. He saved the world from nuclear annilation by snacking. God save the Queen. He did his duty for Queen and country. MarqueeMarc 10-05-08, 04:30 PM Connery Craig Lazenby Dalton Moore Brosnan Marc dvdmike007 10-05-08, 06:08 PM Dalton Craig Connery Moore Brosnan Lazenby Giger 10-05-08, 07:03 PM Connery Dalton (underrated) Moore Craig Brosnan (good, but stuck in most of the weakest films) Lazenby (so-so, however OHMSS is one of the best Bond films) Max Gault 10-06-08, 09:56 AM IMO: Connery Craig Lazenby Dalton Brosnan Moore Yep ! +1 Max Vince2909 10-06-08, 10:47 AM Craig > * Nosferax 10-06-08, 10:51 AM Connery Lazenby Craig Brosnan Moore David Niven :-) (Original Casino Royal 1967 - Sir James Bond) Dalton jvillain 10-06-08, 01:31 PM Niven before Dalton? Ouch. dpags 10-06-08, 01:50 PM Right now, just my fave Bond, For Your Eyes Only. I haven't even opened the other Platinum DVD sets yet, so I'm no hurry for the others. Goldeneye will be an immediate buy when it comes, though Nosferax 10-06-08, 02:19 PM Niven before Dalton? Ouch. :D I'm not really a fan of "Barbie Ken" Dalton scoobdoo 10-06-08, 03:39 PM Connery Dalton Craig Lazenby (although OHMSS ranks at the no.1 Bond) Brosnan (although except for Goldeneye, thanks to the writing his films generally stink) Moore mumbles3k 10-06-08, 09:34 PM I've always been a big Bond fan, and I'd say about half of the movies are good. But after CASINO ROYALE, I've had to re-assess them quite a bit. That movie is so ridiculously better than all of the others that it makes a lot of them almost insignificant. I don't really have much interest in seeing even decent ones, like DR. NO ever again. So as of right now, I'll pick up FROM RUSSIA, WITH LOVE and DIE ANOTHER DAY. PRO-630HD 10-06-08, 09:50 PM I would have to say Die Another Day was Pierce Brosnan's Moonraker in terms of scope and reception and not one of the better Bond's. Dr. No is far superior as would be most Bond's. Brosnan's weakest film by far. ricwhite 10-08-08, 08:11 PM Is "From Russia With Love" the best Bond movie of all time? davcole 10-08-08, 09:26 PM I've always been a big Bond fan, and I'd say about half of the movies are good. But after CASINO ROYALE, I've had to re-assess them quite a bit. That movie is so ridiculously better than all of the others that it makes a lot of them almost insignificant. Wow... those are my exact thoughts!! I grew up on the Moore Bonds then went backwards and then forward and while there are some Bond films I absolutely like, they fall far short of what CASINO ROYALE is. I remember when I saw it in the theater and I was saying to myself, this is the first Bond film I think I EVER got caught up in the plot. I am anxious to see the direction of QUANTUM OF SOLACE. MelloFellow13 10-08-08, 09:29 PM Connery Craig Moore Brosnan Dalton Lazenby ... Mike Myers :D YEAH BABY, YEAH! davcole 10-08-08, 09:30 PM I would have to say Die Another Day was Pierce Brosnan's Moonraker in terms of scope and reception and not one of the better Bond's. Wow... another person with my exact thoughts!! I remember seeing MOONRAKER at 19 and I thought it was the greatest, now I can't even watch it cause it's so lame!! FOR YOUR EYES ONLY had to be done as almost an apology! I get sad with DIE ANOTHER DAY cause it started off like it would be the best Bond in ages with him getting captured. Afterwards it went downhill and probably is worse than MOONRAKER. I felt for Pierce cause I think he could have had one more good film in him, but DAD was so pathetic, it really trapped Pierce having nowhere to go with his portrayal of the character. **sidenote** I thought that Pierce and Judi Dench had a great chemistry. There was this unspoken love/hate/respect thing between them that I loved. We'll see if that develops between Dench and Craig. John Stockton 10-08-08, 09:36 PM Dalton Connery Craig Lazenby Brosnan Moore MelloFellow13 10-08-08, 09:39 PM Wow... another person with my exact thoughts!! I remember seeing MOONRAKER at 19 and I thought it was the greatest, now I can't even watch it cause it's so lame!! FOR YOUR EYES ONLY had to be done as almost an apology! I get sad with DIE ANOTHER DAY cause it started off like it would be the best Bond in ages with him getting captured. Afterwards it went downhill and probably is worse than MOONRAKER. I felt for Pierce cause I think he could have had one more good film in him, but DAD was so pathetic, it really trapped Pierce having nowhere to go with his portrayal of the character. **sidenote** I thought that Pierce and Judi Dench had a great chemistry. There was this unspoken love/hate/respect thing between them that I loved. We'll see if that develops between Dench and Craig. For Your Eyes Only was actually meant to come before Moonraker. In the credits for The Spy Who Loved Me (definitely in my top 3 by the way) it says James Bond will return in For Your Eyes Only, but they decided to move forward with the Moonraker film first to capitalize on the popularity of space films (thanks to Star Wars). That might explain why it's so campy, but I love to watch it just because it's so bad. davcole 10-09-08, 05:04 AM For Your Eyes Only was actually meant to come before Moonraker. In the credits for The Spy Who Loved Me (definitely in my top 3 by the way) it says James Bond will return in For Your Eyes Only, but they decided to move forward with the Moonraker film first to capitalize on the popularity of space films (thanks to Star Wars). That might explain why it's so campy, but I love to watch it just because it's so bad. Thanks and you are correct, FYEO is the title teased at the end of SPY WHO LOVED ME. You know as bad as MOONRAKER is, I admit there are some redeeming aspects: It was a great John Barry score. Actually the score and the theme were some of Barry's best work. Beautiful location scenery in California, Brazil, France and Venice. Corrine Dufour and the Brazilian actress. You can debate Lois Chiles. I won't buy it, but I definitely want to rent it when it comes out on BD. Art Sonneborn 10-09-08, 07:39 AM Is "From Russia With Love" the best Bond movie of all time? I don't think there is a best Bond film really.There are several I like a lot that have potential to be viewed over and over , From Russia With Love is one of those for me. Art Bill C. 10-09-08, 07:57 AM I can usually find something to like in any Bond film...with the possible exception of A View to a Kill, but it's been a very long time since I've sat through that one. Though there are of course the moments where you have to take the stoopid (deliberate misspelling) with the good... Having said that: I'm tempted to buy all of this first wave of Bond films, perhaps most importantly Thunderball and From Russia With Love, but I'm admittedly skittish about doing it with all the Ultimate Edition (ha!) DVD boxsets sitting on a shelf about ten feet away. And while I understand DAD being in this first wave (if for absolutely nothing else than Miranda Frost and Halle Berry in 1080p...), I really would have preferred GoldenEye or The World Is Not Enough in its place. (A tangential thought: minus George Lazenby of course, is it just me or has every Bond actor's second film been decidedly more action-packed than their first? Connery had FRWL, Moore had The Man With The Golden Gun (possibly debatable?), Dalton had Licence to Kill, Brosnan had Tomorrow Never Dies, and now Daniel Craig is getting Quantum of Solace...) FoxyMulder 10-09-08, 08:18 AM Moonraker had a fabulous opening sequence and a great title song and actually started quite well but what ruined it for me was the scenes just after the cable car and turning Jaws into a soft lovestruck teenager instead of the tough as nails assassin he was supposed to be. I have just heard the new theme song for Quantum Of Solace.....It's growing on me but still nothing special although it's a million times better than Cornell's effort for the last film which nearly put me to sleep. You know just like Moonraker i felt Thunderball started out promisingly but loses its way and seems to spend far too long underwater. It's my least favorite Connery Bond film although i love the opening scenes and the song is good. robertc88 10-09-08, 08:34 AM I sure hope folks not familiar with some of these Bond films aren't blind buying them and I'll leave it at that! Frank Stein 10-09-08, 02:55 PM I sure hope folks not familiar with some of these Bond films aren't blind buying them and I'll leave it at that! I don't see how you can make such a vague statement and then refuse to explain it. Are you talking about PQ, content, who plays JB, etc? All six shipped today for delivery tomorrow. I'll even keep the ones with Moore, even though he is by far, the very worst of the those who played Bond. zoso0928 10-09-08, 03:32 PM Where did u order from and can anyone get them by the next day? seggers 10-09-08, 03:34 PM Erm, you're missing a selection from that list. I'm not buying any of those.... Seggers General Kenobi 10-09-08, 03:47 PM I'm most excited about For Your Eyes Only, it is my all time favorite Bond moive. I grew up on Roger Moore as Bond so I'm biased:p daniels1994 10-09-08, 04:04 PM Where did u order from and can anyone get them by the next day? I think people are ordering from hidefdvd.com or buy.com or bestbuy.com. But none offer tham at lower prices than Amazon. If you want it by tomorrow (next day shipping ranges anywhere from $16-$20), be prepared to pay thru the roof. As for me, I'll wait till amazon ships it by the 22nd, by then we will have a good number of reviews, if the quality is not great, you can return them at amazon if you haven't opened the package at 100% of your cost. FoxyMulder 10-09-08, 04:55 PM Does Amazon U.S. ship to the UK ? jvillain 10-09-08, 05:08 PM Is "From Russia With Love" the best Bond movie of all time? Wow. I would have thought that question would have expanded this thread by 100 pages. Since you asked I have the real answer for you. No is is not. But it will probably rate in every ones top 10 if not top 5. The real answer is ..... But after CASINO ROYALE, I've had to re-assess them quite a bit. That movie is so ridiculously better than all of the others that it makes a lot of them almost insignificant. I'm almost with you one that. But Bond has no business playing poker. Making Bond into just another Joe that way was wrong. (Dollar value aside of course) All right I'll bite after all. ... Golden Eye. domtheone 10-09-08, 05:30 PM You know as bad as MOONRAKER is, I admit there are some redeeming aspects: It was a great John Barry score. Actually the score and the theme were some of Barry's best work. Beautiful location scenery in California, Brazil, France and Venice. Corrine Dufour and the Brazilian actress. You can debate Lois Chiles. You forgot to mention Jaws:D MatthewT 10-09-08, 06:00 PM Is "From Russia With Love" the best Bond movie of all time? I know some other folks have already addressed this, but I would say that FRWL is widely regarded as one of the better films. I don't think there's much room for argument - personal opinions aside - that Goldfinger is widely regarded as the best of the Bond movies. That seems to top most people's Best Bond list. Goldfinger, the third film, really instituted the "Bond formula." It had the larger-than-life villain, the unforgettable henchman, the bad girl who fell to 007's charms and became good, the gadgets, the Aston-Martin DB-5, etc. Although Thunderball would surpass Goldfinger, Goldfinger had a larger budget and bigger box office than the first two films. Alan G. 10-09-08, 06:32 PM When I was in high school, my first Bond film was "From Russia with Love", new in the theater. It blew everyone away. "Goldfinger" was great, but the subsequent films became more gimmicky, and thus, less realistic. "From Russia with Love" stands as the most realistic of them all. And as I remember its (and Connery's) initial effect on me and others, it is still my favorite. As a funny (well, to me) aside: I saw it again recently and noticed a very '60s-type film phenomenon. Bond quickly gets on a boat in the middle of nowhere and all of sudden, he's got a captains hat on. It wasn't in his suitcase. It just was instantly on his head! Perfect! ricwhite 10-09-08, 06:33 PM So, it appears the "Gold" movies tend to be the best (Goldfinger, Golden Eye) while the "Die" movies tend to be the worst (Did Another Day, Live and Let Die) xradman 10-09-08, 06:56 PM What are the chances for multi-region releases on these Bonds? Probably between slim and none given that they are from Fox/MGM.:( Adam_ME 10-09-08, 08:01 PM Is "From Russia With Love" the best Bond movie of all time? I think it is. It's got the best Bond(Connery), one of the nastiest villains(Rosa Klebb), the best henchman(Red Grant), one of the best sidekicks(Karim Bay), the introduction of Blofeld(from the neck down at least), the introduction of Desmond Llewelyn as Q, John Barry's first full score in the series, the best fight(the train sequence), and one of the most beautiful Bond girls(Tatiana Romanova). And for me personally, I appreciated extra touches like the continuity with the previous film(Dr. No is mentioned and Sylvia Trench returns), the fact that Bond actually acts like a spy, and that you feel that Bond actually seems to be in danger of dying during moments of the movie. Rachael Bellomy 10-09-08, 08:24 PM .....that Goldfinger is widely regarded as the best of the Bond movies. That seems to top most people's Best Bond list......Goldfinger, the third film, really instituted the "Bond formula." It had the larger-than-life villain, the unforgettable henchman, the bad girl who fell to 007's charms and became good.... Let's just cut to the chase, Goldfinger had Pussy Galore...;) townofturley 10-09-08, 09:31 PM So, it appears the "Gold" movies tend to be the best (Goldfinger, Golden Eye) while the "Die" movies tend to be the worst (Did Another Day, Live and Let Die) You got it. davcole 10-09-08, 09:31 PM I think it is. It's got the best Bond(Connery), one of the nastiest villains(Rosa Klebb), the best henchman(Red Grant), one of the best sidekicks(Karim Bay), the introduction of Blofeld(from the neck down at least), the introduction of Desmond Llewelyn as Q, John Barry's first full score in the series, the best fight(the train sequence), and one of the most beautiful Bond girls(Tatiana Romanova). And for me personally, I appreciated extra touches like the continuity with the previous film(Dr. No is mentioned and Sylvia Trench returns), the fact that Bond actually acts like a spy, and that you feel that Bond actually seems to be in danger of dying during moments of the movie. While THUNDERBALL is my favorite Connery film, I will agree that FRWL is the best. In truth, it was the last film that showed Bond as a flesh-and-blood man instead of the superhero type character that started with GOLDFINGER and stated pretty consistent till CASINO ROYALE (with few exceptions). townofturley 10-09-08, 09:31 PM Let's just cut to the chase, Goldfinger had Pussy Galore...;) There's plenty of that around :cool: Rachael Bellomy 10-09-08, 09:37 PM There's plenty of that around :cool: Is she stille workin' the double-naught agent retirement home at this point...? ;) Nosferax 10-10-08, 07:57 AM So, it appears the "Gold" movies tend to be the best (Goldfinger, Golden Eye) while the "Die" movies tend to be the worst (Did Another Day, Live and Let Die) Not really. For me Golden eye was one of the worst. I do love Live and let Die, well mostly because of the actress :D robertc88 10-10-08, 08:34 AM I don't see how you can make such a vague statement and then refuse to explain it. Are you talking about PQ, content, who plays JB, etc? All six shipped today for delivery tomorrow. I'll even keep the ones with Moore, even though he is by far, the very worst of the those who played Bond. I meant from the standpoint of content, obviously BD PQ and AQ quality is unknown. There has been enough back and forth in this thread about some of these movies, who likes what, which Bond actor is preferred, and which movies aren't very good versus others. Buying these movies from the standpoint of these now available on BD shouldn't be enough in itself if one has no idea about the content of the movie. Guess that can be said for any movie though. Htdude14 10-10-08, 08:38 AM I wil be buying none of the above. I have seen them all in HD on cable within the year and there is just not enough replay value to bother. Electone 10-10-08, 09:31 AM So, it appears the "Gold" movies tend to be the best (Goldfinger, Golden Eye) while the "Die" movies tend to be the worst (Did Another Day, Live and Let Die) You got it. Ummmm, that would be a big NO. Did you forget "The Man With The Golden Gun????? MelloFellow13 10-10-08, 10:30 AM Ummmm, that would be a big NO. Did you forget "The Man With The Golden Gun????? Yeah, Scaramanga the assassin with three nipples was a little off the wall, lol. At least his gun was cool, it was made up from a lighter, a pen, a cufflink and a cigarette case.:rolleyes: JimSD 10-10-08, 12:17 PM Amazon's sales rankings for these Blu-rays tracks pretty closely with this poll except for Die Another Day. Sales rank at Amazon: From Russia With Love #2339 Dr. No #2565 Thunderball #2940 Die Another Day #3396 For Your Eyes Only #6334 Live And Let Die #7207 The order of Dr. No and Thunderball and Amazon are different, but both are pretty close to each other as they are in this poll. King_David 10-10-08, 12:32 PM Live and Let Die and Die Another Day. filmbuff2 10-10-08, 08:42 PM Well, like most of you here I was debating on which single titles to purchase - and while I was looking around at my favorite store I noticed the box sets. I could only afford one so I decided on Volume 2. So much for selecting some individually! Just could not resist, and besides, it is still cheaper this way. I will definitely watch them this weekend on the old pj ( Epson 1080UB Pro ) viewed on a 128" 2:35 screen. If they pass this test then we have some winners on our hands. ( I hope so ).http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4817/img03051wx7.jpg http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/981/img03121op1.jpg http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4072/img03061ey1.jpg http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7769/img03071ij3.jpg http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4329/img03081hy5.jpg http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3355/img03111ke7.jpg There is a clear plastic slip cover that is open at the top - the case slides out and the black card board "book" is pulled from it and there the three discs sit, pretty as you please. Also, instead of the usual plastic hub holding the disc Sony/MGM decided on a foam piece. Works ok but I wonder if it will hold up under use.It's so special. Say- this is a poll of sorts so if someone thinks my post should be somewhere else please do so. I guess I was just too excited having my grubby hands on a early copy. MelloFellow13 10-10-08, 09:19 PM I usually don't like box sets but this looks sweet! xradman 10-10-08, 09:21 PM Woah, so they are not individually packaged in a slip case. I better cancel my preorder at Amazon. I like having separate cases for each one. townofturley 10-10-08, 10:04 PM I wil be buying none of the above. I have seen them all in HD on cable within the year and there is just not enough replay value to bother. I've also seen the broadcast HD of many of them, including the recent MGM HD showings. But they don't begin to look as good as these new BDs. I've sampled Dr. No, From Russia..., and Live and Let Die. They look fabulous, even the earliest ones with Connery. Great detail, some grain, beautiful colors, and great sound. I've seen some of these so many times I couldn't even estimate the number. For anyone who is a Bond aficionado, these are a must have. Adam_ME 10-10-08, 10:38 PM For those who already have their copies, can you confirm whether or not the older movies like From Russia With Love and Thunderball include the original mono tracks? c-not-k 10-10-08, 10:55 PM I'm not going to buy any, anytime soon. I have up to Tomorrow Never Dies on Laserdisc. I have the UE set on DVD. I have Casino Royale on Blu-ray. I haven't finihed eventhe first boxof the UE, but I have to admit the rematers are visually stunning. I may triple-dip on a title or two. My 2¢ Craig Connery Dalton Moore Lazenby Niven (What? Nobody remembers the original Casino Royale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(1967_film))?) Brosnan Also, do you think we'll see Never Say Never Again (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_say_never_again) on Blu-ray? ack_bk 10-10-08, 11:02 PM Ughh. I cannot wait.. I bought mine at Amazon during their recent 3for2 snafu and was able to order all the movies (except for Die Another Day) for an average of $15 apiece. The waiting is killing me. I cannot wait to see these on Blu-Ray. giantchicken 10-11-08, 12:38 AM Should I cancel my order for the boxed sets now, or just wait and repurchase them all when the second wave introduces a new form of packaging and the initial titles no longer match on my shelf (and can't be arranged chronologically)? And the packaging implies that the extras are in high def as well--can you confirm that? jvillain 10-11-08, 12:41 AM For people into those kinds of cases that is pretty nice. For me though I would rather have a case like the Blader Runner one or individual cases. Art Sonneborn 10-11-08, 08:58 AM I'm not into caring about the case. How do they look ? Art ricwhite 10-11-08, 11:39 AM Ummmm, that would be a big NO. Did you forget "The Man With The Golden Gun????? That's a Bond movie?? I thought it was a porn movie. Damn. robertc88 10-11-08, 12:10 PM There goes the idea of selling the ones you don't want in the box which would be the way I was going to go. Back to the drawing board for which way I'm going to purchase some of these. Thanks for the pics btw. We'll be waiting to hear back on the quality. Don't think we will be disappointed though! :) homerx 10-11-08, 12:19 PM I'm thinking I may just order both boxsets together on amazon as they have an exellent price if you buy both sets. I don't need them right aways so the free shiping option might be alright. show 10-11-08, 01:22 PM Well, like most of you here I was debating on which single titles to purchase - and while I was looking around at my favorite store I noticed the box sets. I could only afford one so I decided on Volume 2. So much for selecting some individually! Just could not resist, and besides, it is still cheaper this way. I will definitely watch them this weekend on the old pj ( Epson 1080UB Pro ) viewed on a 128" 2:35 screen. If they pass this test then we have some winners on our hands. ( I hope so ).http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4817/img03051wx7.jpg http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/981/img03121op1.jpg http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4072/img03061ey1.jpg http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7769/img03071ij3.jpg http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4329/img03081hy5.jpg http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3355/img03111ke7.jpg There is a clear plastic slip cover that is open at the top - the case slides out and the black card board "book" is pulled from it and there the three discs sit, pretty as you please. Also, instead of the usual plastic hub holding the disc Sony/MGM decided on a foam piece. Works ok but I wonder if it will hold up under use.It's so special. Say- this is a poll of sorts so if someone thinks my post should be somewhere else please do so. I guess I was just too excited having my grubby hands on a early copy. Did these come with movie cash for Quantum of Solace? I've read that there would be two certificates in the box sets. :) giantchicken 10-11-08, 01:28 PM Amazon's copies probably won't have inserts in their exclusively priced bundle, as with Kill Bill. Indyjones 10-11-08, 07:27 PM Sorry if this has been addressed already, but does anyone know if Amazon's exclusive 6 pack Bond bundle/set is each individual title just bundled together, ala National Treasure and Kill Bill, or if it's just volume's 1 and 2 bundled together? I have the exclusive bundle on order, but I want each title in it's own case. I'm not a big fan of these volume sets, especially since they're (the films) not being done in any order whatsoever. filmbuff2 10-11-08, 08:56 PM Regarding the Quantum Of Solace e-Movie cash promotion - there is a small label on the outer sleeve and the code is on the the reverse side with instructions : http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3330/img03131vs6.jpg dragonyeuw 10-12-08, 10:09 AM I think I'll be getting the Connery films only(besides Diamond are forever).I have the complete set on DVD,plus Casino Royale on bluray,and the Connery movies to me are the only ones worth rebuying at hidef prices,and only then if there is noticeable visual upgrade.I can make myself content with the dvds of the other films. Art Sonneborn 10-12-08, 10:16 AM Guys, really ! Several of you own these and are more concerned about the packages than the films it seems. How does Dr No or From Russia With Love look ? Art thebland 10-12-08, 11:01 AM Guys, really ! Several of you own these and are more concerned about the packages than the films it seems. How does Dr No or From Russia With Love look ? Art Agreed.. The threads that talk about cover art, or special packaging for discs from a certain retailer or boxes, etc provide for excellent laughs. I always go into those threads thinking they are jokes to show how nutty some foks are.. FoxyMulder 10-12-08, 11:21 AM Agreed.. The threads that talk about cover art, or special packaging for discs from a certain retailer or boxes, etc provide for excellent laughs. I always go into those threads thinking they are jokes to show how nutty some foks are.. Yah it's almost as funny as reading people's blogs ;) I have ordered From Russia With Love and hopefully i'll get it within the week and be able to post a few comments on it....It's my favorite Bond movie. Art Sonneborn 10-12-08, 12:59 PM I have ordered From Russia With Love and hopefully i'll get it within the week and be able to post a few comments on it....It's my favorite Bond movie. Thanks ! Art xradman 10-12-08, 01:58 PM Guys, really ! Several of you own these and are more concerned about the packages than the films it seems. How does Dr No or From Russia With Love look ? Art I respectfully disagree. I am a collector and packaging and cover art is also an important factor that I consider when buying something. If I was only concerned about the inner contents, I might as just rent rather than buy since I almost never watch anything more than once. Xae 10-12-08, 02:06 PM Ordered Dr. No, From Russia With Love, and Thunderball. The only Bond film I own in any format currently is Casino Royale on Blu (I know, I'm a bad person). jvillain 10-12-08, 02:39 PM The only Bond film I own in any format currently is Casino Royale on Blu (I know, I'm a bad person). You and me both. But I plan on mending my ways. elvisizer 10-13-08, 06:04 PM I respectfully disagree. I am a collector and packaging and cover art is also an important factor that I consider when buying something. If I was only concerned about the inner contents, I might as just rent rather than buy since I almost never watch anything more than once. so instead of re-watching the movie you get the case out and look at the covers? or what? it makes no sense at all to buy if you only watch it once- why DON'T you rent? :confused: xradman 10-13-08, 07:45 PM so instead of re-watching the movie you get the case out and look at the covers? or what? it makes no sense at all to buy if you only watch it once- why DON'T you rent? :confused: Why do people collect stamps, trinkets, cars, etc? Do you collect anything? I collect DVDs, and more recently HD DVDs, Blu-rays, and Steelbooks. Surely, I must not be the only one, specially in AVS Forum. I just recently imported a bunch from overseas for over $50 each, for all the titles I already have in plain packaging. With over 800 HDM titles, and buying on average 10 or more titles every week, there simply isn't time to watch anything more than once, let alone watch everything even once.:( townofturley 10-13-08, 10:28 PM Guys, really ! Several of you own these and are more concerned about the packages than the films it seems. How does Dr No or From Russia With Love look ? Art You do realize that there is another thread that deals with the actual content of the movies. townofturley 10-13-08, 10:30 PM Why do people collect stamps, trinkets, cars, etc? Do you collect anything? I collect DVDs, and more recently HD DVDs, Blu-rays, and Steelbooks. Surely, I must not be the only one, specially in AVS Forum. I just recently imported a bunch from overseas for over $50 each, for all the titles I already have in plain packaging. With over 800 HDM titles, and buying on average 10 or more titles every week, there simply isn't time to watch anything more than once, let alone watch everything even once.:( So, you are collecting cases and disks, not movies. DavidHir 10-13-08, 11:00 PM You do realize that there is another thread that deals with the actual content of the movies. Nothing wrong with good packaging, but I think Art's point is optimal audio and video quality is what really matters which would still make this thread relevant. xradman 10-13-08, 11:32 PM So, you are collecting cases and disks, not movies. Nothing wrong with collecting the whole package. Why settle for just the content when you can have it also in a nice package.:) I know that there are folks who chuck the package and keep their disc inside folders. People also rip the movies to a hard drive and chuck the entire thing. Nothing wrong with that. It's just not for me. StinDaWg 10-14-08, 01:45 AM Why do people collect stamps, trinkets, cars, etc? Do you collect anything? I collect DVDs, and more recently HD DVDs, Blu-rays, and Steelbooks. Surely, I must not be the only one, specially in AVS Forum. I just recently imported a bunch from overseas for over $50 each, for all the titles I already have in plain packaging. With over 800 HDM titles, and buying on average 10 or more titles every week, there simply isn't time to watch anything more than once, let alone watch everything even once.:( 800 movies at an average of $25 a pop is $20,000. You could have bought a brand new car, a down payment on a house, money for retirement, or 20,000 bottles of beer. :D Instead you have some boxes of movies that even you say you probably never will watch again or even watch at all. That I will never understand. :confused: You must be filthy rich. FoxyMulder 10-14-08, 06:43 AM 800 movies at an average of $25 a pop is $20,000. You could have bought a brand new car, a down payment on a house, money for retirement, or 20,000 bottles of beer. :D Instead you have some boxes of movies that even you say you probably never will watch again or even watch at all. That I will never understand. :confused: You must be filthy rich. He's a collector....I fully understand it. I have movies myself that i probably watch only a few times but i bought for my collection....I too love great packaging. Obviously though i won't buy unless the movie image quality and audio quality is good....No amount of great packaging will persuade me to buy a DNRed turkey but there are other threads out there to discuss that one. I'm waiting to hear if the Australian collectors edition of Casino Royale is still uncut and if it is i'll buy that one....If all releases are the same worldwide and are now the slightly cut editions then i'll send off for the 1 disc uncut Australian edition instead. townofturley 10-14-08, 08:01 AM Nothing wrong with good packaging, but I think Art's point is optimal audio and video quality is what really matters which would still make this thread relevant. I believe he was asking about the movies looked. There is another thread that specifically deals with this and has some reviews. I was simply pointing that out. robertc88 10-14-08, 08:54 AM I'd think about going ahead and buying a box and trade a movie I don't want but I think most would be looking to trade away the same movie. :) I wouldn't care the wrong movie is in the box so long as I have a placeholder for it. Art Sonneborn 10-14-08, 11:02 AM I respectfully disagree. I am a collector and packaging and cover art is also an important factor that I consider when buying something. If I was only concerned about the inner contents, I might as just rent rather than buy since I almost never watch anything more than once. Well ,since we know what the packages look like yet still no one has posted about the actual film I think my post is very valid. Art donricouga 10-14-08, 11:06 AM Well, I don't own a single James Bond movie, with the exception of Casino Royale of course. I will be buying all of them! The Connery ones are a must. Art Sonneborn 10-14-08, 11:07 AM I respectfully disagree. I am a collector and packaging and cover art is also an important factor that I consider when buying something. If I was only concerned about the inner contents, I might as just rent rather than buy since I almost never watch anything more than once. So , are you atually saying that the cover art is as important as the film transfer quality.:eek: I'm not arguing about enjoying the boxes or cover art only there are guys in this thread who have had these films way in advance so I'd like to hear their impressions of the transfers. Art dragonyeuw 10-14-08, 11:36 AM I've placed my amazon order for Dr.No,From Russia with Love,and Thunderball,can't wait.I think I'll stop though after Goldfinger and You only live Twice.I really want the Connery films only as they are the true 'classic' Bond to me,none of the other films merit a double dip for me(especially at the price they're asking for them).How the hell did Goldfinger not be in the initial batch of releases?They release the first 2,then skip over it with Thunderball,then onto Live and Let Die and,of all films,Die Another day!? Hurry up with Goldfinger dammit! xradman 10-14-08, 11:55 AM So , are you atually saying that the cover art is as important as the film transfer quality.:eek: Art I guess what I am saying is as a collector, I find that nice packaging and cover is just as important as the film transfer quality. I just spent $2000 importing Blu-ray Steelbooks from Germany and France. Majority of these Blu-rays will not play on US players and most do not have US subtitles. In addition, I have US Blu-rays of most of these titles. So why did I import them? Because I liked the case and wanted a copy of every one. daniels1994 10-14-08, 11:57 AM I've placed my amazon order for Dr.No,From Russia with Love,and Thunderball,can't wait.I think I'll stop though after Goldfinger and You only live Twice.I really want the Connery films only as they are the true 'classic' Bond to me,none of the other films merit a double dip for me(especially at the price they're asking for them).How the hell did Goldfinger not be in the initial batch of releases?They release the first 2,then skip over it with Thunderball,then onto Live and Let Die and,of all films,Die Another day!? Hurry up with Goldfinger dammit! I hope you know that the marketing department at both Sony and Fox already did their homework. That is they test market surveys and they know dam well that if they bunched all the connerys onto 1 box and the others into seperate volumes, guess which is the only box that would sell? That's right the Connery ones. So in order to maximize profits they mix and match. Basic standard operating procedure. dragonyeuw 10-14-08, 12:10 PM I hope you know that the marketing department at both Sony and Fox already did their homework. That is they test market surveys and they know dam well that if they bunched all the connerys onto 1 box and the others into seperate volumes, guess which is the only box that would sell? That's right the Connery ones. So in order to maximize profits they mix and match. Basic standard operating procedure. I said nothing of all the Connerys in one box.I asked why wasn't Goldfinger in the first batch of releases.I bought Dr.No,Russia with Love and Thunderball as seperate,individual releases.Which is what I intend to do for the other Connery movies.At some point Goldfinger will be released as a standalone,what I'm asking is why did they release the first two Bond films,skip over the third and arguably most iconic,and release the 4th(Thunderball)? dragonyeuw 10-14-08, 12:13 PM I must admit I don't truly understand the value of being particular about the packaging,or the disc art.I buy a movie to watch it,the case is irrelevant to me as I don't sit there and stare at it for kicks.It's purpose,to me, is to protect the movie from being scratched etc.However,to each his/her own. Bill C. 10-14-08, 12:14 PM At some point Goldfinger will be released as a standalone,what I'm asking is why did they release the first two Bond films,skip over the third and arguably most iconic,and release the 4th(Thunderball)? Probably for the same reason they skipped GoldenEye and The World Is Not Enough and went straight to DAD: to tease and infuriate us. dragonyeuw 10-14-08, 12:24 PM Probably for the same reason they skipped GoldenEye and The World Is Not Enough and went straight to DAD: to tease and infuriate us. I guess I'm just wondering why they don't release in order of theatrical release.Goldfinger to me would be an obvious choice in an initial batch of Bond releases,since they're giving the consumer the choice to pick which movies they want by releasing them seperately(cough cough Matrix Collection cough cough). Rachael Bellomy 10-14-08, 12:29 PM Does anybody know where I can get the generic versions of the Bond BD's that come in blue burlap sacks? ;) robertc88 10-14-08, 12:41 PM I hope you know that the marketing department at both Sony and Fox already did their homework. That is they test market surveys and they know dam well that if they bunched all the connerys onto 1 box and the others into seperate volumes, guess which is the only box that would sell? That's right the Connery ones. So in order to maximize profits they mix and match. Basic standard operating procedure. I totally agree and and I assume there is a reason why they aren't individually cased either cause folks would sell/trade the ones they don't want. FoxyMulder 10-14-08, 12:45 PM I must admit I don't truly understand the value of being particular about the packaging,or the disc art.I buy a movie to watch it,the case is irrelevant to me as I don't sit there and stare at it for kicks.It's purpose,to me, is to protect the movie from being scratched etc.However,to each his/her own. Try flogging your collection on eBay and you will find that the special packaging sells for more...Another reason i like quality packaging and slipcase covers. dragonyeuw 10-14-08, 12:49 PM I totally agree and and I assume there is a reason why they aren't individually cased either cause folks would sell/trade the ones they don't want. I just purchased Dr.No,From Russia with Love,and Thunderball as seperate,standalone releases. dragonyeuw 10-14-08, 12:51 PM Try flogging your collection on eBay and you will find that the special packaging sells for more...Another reason i like quality packaging and slipcase covers. I didn't say I want my covers to look like crap,merely that it's not a deciding factor in whether I purchase a movie or not.I personally place greater value on the actual film.As I said and will repeat,to each their own.For example, in keeping with the topic of this thread,I'd have preferred that each Bond BD individual release utilize some original packaging unique to each film.For example,my Bond dvds all have their own unique look,while they seem to have made a decision to use a generic packaging for all the standalone BD releases.However,that's not gonna change my decision to buy the film,nor will I lose sleep over it. robertc88 10-14-08, 01:13 PM I just purchased Dr.No,From Russia with Love,and Thunderball as seperate,standalone releases. I was referring to the boxed sets. Going to get expensive buying them separately. BTW, where did filmbuff 2 go? We are waiting for reviews! :) DangerousK 10-14-08, 01:18 PM I was referring to the boxed sets. Going to get expensive buying them separately. The individual titles are on sale for $21 or so at Circuit City next week. Buy 2 and get $5 off, so not a bad deal. I might just skip Die Another Day and Live and Let Die. I really dislike Live and Let Die...and Die Another Day was so-so....not a fan of the Pierce Brosnan movies outside of Goldeneye which was top notch. I wish they could have released that one instead. dragonyeuw 10-14-08, 01:28 PM I was referring to the boxed sets. Going to get expensive buying them separately. BTW, where did filmbuff 2 go? We are waiting for reviews! :) I agree that buying them seperately will be expensive.I was merely commenting to your statement that they aren't individually packaged,which is not true.You can either get them as 2 packs with 3 movies per pack,or individually.Of course the three Connery releases are split between the two available packs,as would be expected as mentioned above by a few posters.I would personally rather spend a few extra bucks per film and get the ones I want,rather than be forced to buy packs containing films I don't want.And out of the 21 Bond Films,I would only invest my hidef dollars in the first 5 Connery films and 2006's Casino Royale(which I already own). Lance_G 10-14-08, 01:47 PM Does anyone know if the James Bond 3-pack collections will still have each movie in its own individual keepcase like Sony did with Spider-Man trilogy? Also, will the individual Bond releases have slipcovers? Thank in advance for any information. browerjs 10-14-08, 01:50 PM I agree that buying them seperately will be expensive.I was merely commenting to your statement that they aren't individually packaged,which is not true.You can either get them as 2 packs with 3 movies per pack,or individually.Of course the three Connery releases are split between the two available packs,as would be expected as mentioned above by a few posters.I would personally rather spend a few extra bucks per film and get the ones I want,rather than be forced to buy packs containing films I don't want.And out of the 21 Bond Films,I would only invest my hidef dollars in the first 5 Connery films and 2006's Casino Royale(which I already own). Actually Circuit City is going to have them for 21.95/ea and if you buy 2 you get $5 off. So for all 6 it would be: $116.70, only about $5 more then the 6pack on amazon... Of course you'd have tax on top of it, and you may have to do 3 seperate orders... EDIT: Woops, just read the previous page and saw this was already posted... Sorry for the duplication... dragonyeuw 10-14-08, 01:56 PM Does anyone know if the James Bond 3-pack collections will still have each movie in its own individual keepcase like Sony did with Spider-Man trilogy? Also, will the individual Bond releases have slipcovers? Thank in advance for any information. From what I know,the 3 packs do not have individual cases. That fueled much of my reason for wanting to buy the seperate releases,as I have no intention to deliberately buy Live and Let Die or especially Die another Day.Don't know about the slip covers though..... robertc88 10-14-08, 02:07 PM Actually Circuit City is going to have them for 21.95/ea and if you buy 2 you get $5 off. So for all 6 it would be: $116.70, only about $5 more then the 6pack on amazon... Of course you'd have tax on top of it, and you may have to do 3 seperate orders... I like that deal! Thanks! Edit, I missed it too since it was post post on prior page but I'm sure many will jump on this!. robertc88 10-15-08, 09:14 AM Last post from me on prices and deals cause there is a sticky for that but so much to weed through and lots of folks don't check there. I don't want a discussion going here for that as mods will probably intervene. Circuit City circular has buy two on same receipt and and save $5.00. Also, the boxes are showing as $59.99! So there are some good opportunities to get these any which way you choose! :) DarkKnight2k4 10-15-08, 11:22 AM Is the sale this week or next ? robertc88 10-15-08, 11:46 AM Is the sale this week or next ? Next week. If you have the circular in hand, I see no problem with price matches in other stores that honor that. robertc88 10-16-08, 04:01 PM Time to look around. Bet some of us find these out on a shelf early! :) PittDVD 10-17-08, 01:39 PM For those buying the single releases: On every copy I've seen so far, FOX has stuck the Movie Cash sticker on the SLIP COVER, rather than onto the shrink wrap of the case itself. The problem is not only is the sticker very hard to get off, but a lot of the print on the back of the sticker winds up STAYING on your slip cover! I have no idea if goo-gone or anything else will remove the ink. Just a word of warning to everyone! Nosferax 10-17-08, 02:22 PM For those buying the single releases: On every copy I've seen so far, FOX has stuck the Movie Cash sticker on the SLIP COVER, rather than onto the shrink wrap of the case itself. The problem is not only is the sticker very hard to get off, but a lot of the print on the back of the sticker winds up STAYING on your slip cover! I have no idea if goo-gone or anything else will remove the ink. Just a word of warning to everyone! No biggy since I never keep those slip cover. HDphile22 10-17-08, 09:39 PM Only ones I will double dip are the ones with the most HOT girls!!! I find Barbara Bach to be the Most attractive bond girl! Why "The Spy who Loved me" is not released in HD? FoxyMulder 10-18-08, 08:59 AM Just received Die Another Day today....Yesterday i received From Russia With Love and was disappointed with the grain structure of that film which i felt had been partially scrubbed away and what was left was a slightly clumpy grain structure instead ( and would like to clarify that it was just slightly and not major ) which isn't film like to my eyes at least thats the way it looked on a 106inch projection screen...I noticed this while the film was in motion and paused it to examine it closer up and the grain did not look like natural film grain either in motion or when paused and when they use their DNR tools it's getting easier to recognize...Detail was still high and it generally looked very good but the film grain just didn't look natural to me although others may well disagree ( especially reviewers ) I'm going to check Die Another Day out later and see if it looks the same way ( detailed but not film like with the grain structure partially scrubbed away ) I will probably be in the minority here but i was disappointed with From Russia With Love even if it was leaps and bounds better than the DVD editions. MovieSwede 10-18-08, 09:03 AM Foxy Dont forget that filmgrain comes in great variations. And what the the encoder is trying to do is recreate the grainstructure with it blocks without destroying the other detail. Art Sonneborn 10-18-08, 09:03 AM Just received Die Another Day today....Yesterday i received From Russia With Love and was disappointed with the grain structure of that film which i felt had been partially scrubbed away and what was left was a slightly clumpy grain structure instead ( and would like to clarify that it was just slightly and not major ) which isn't film like to my eyes at least thats the way it looked on a 106inch projection screen...I noticed this while the film was in motion and paused it to examine it closer up and the grain did not look like natural film grain either in motion or when paused and when they use their DNR tools it's getting easier to recognize...Detail was still high and it generally looked very good but the film grain just didn't look natural to me although others may well disagree ( especially reviewers ) I'm going to check Die Another Day out later and see if it looks the same way ( detailed but not film like with the grain structure partially scrubbed away ) I will probably be in the minority here but i was disappointed with From Russia With Love even if it was leaps and bounds better than the DVD editions. Thanks for the mini review. Too bad that they feel compelled to clean them up when it sounds like really,they don't know how. Art FoxyMulder 10-18-08, 09:12 AM Foxy Dont forget that filmgrain comes in great variations. And what the the encoder is trying to do is recreate the grainstructure with it blocks without destroying the other detail. I'm aware of that and have some fantastic looking BD's with the grain structure intact but the signs of grain scrubbing are becoming more obvious to me with experience and From Russia With Love has had some work done to it and the grain structure whilst still there is not in my opinion film like grain. I do understand Lowry who did these transfers can actually get rid of a lot of grain without destroying the detail.....They appear to have managed it as the detail is still high but in my opinion some of the grain structure has gone and this leaves some telltale signs where you get clumpy patches onscreen rather than consistent film grain and in this case it's mild clumpy patches not major....Most reviewers would miss this ( i think ) Now for James Bond fans it's still going to be a worthwhile purchase because it is leaps and bounds better than DVD and i expect lots of glowing reviews and maybe some arguments over this but to my eyes it's not film like enough and i know all the arguments over film stock and camera lenses and this release disappointed me. MovieSwede 10-18-08, 09:31 AM By looking at the screencap, I still think it has the look of film to it. As there is plenty of grain in the background. But without having access to the orginal negative, its impossible for me to be sure whats been done to the movie. And Im not old enough to have seen this in theater, so I have no reference to if this should look different. FoxyMulder 10-18-08, 09:53 AM By looking at the screencap, I still think it has the look of film to it. As there is plenty of grain in the background. But without having access to the orginal negative, its impossible for me to be sure whats been done to the movie. And Im not old enough to have seen this in theater, so I have no reference to if this should look different. The screenshot on the other thread where Bond is on the beach and you see a blue sky background ? - I think that grain looks mildly DNRed when in motion. I feel there are clumpy parts to it...Mild but there....In my opinion. If you think thats fantastic then you will love this movie on Blu Ray. Its inconsistent in places....The grain you talk about looks like it's had some DNR work so whilst it's still there its very minor grain.....Now the reason for the reduction might be because it made the film for the home editions look bad....I noticed in the scene with Rosa Klebb and the chessmaster at the beginning of the film that Rosa's forehead seemed to be a bit fizzy like ants were moving around her head...Didn't look like grain i am used to seeing in older movies ( where Blofeld is talking to them and the cat does have huge amounts of detail to it ).....I would say some scenes actually probably do look film like but others less so....I also thought i saw minor edge enhancement in several scenes when you see objects against the skyline....It was minor though. Maybe the grain structure on this particular film might have annoyed people and thus they reduced it but in some scenes especially with those blue skies i felt it looked a little clumpy like some DNR had been applied... On the whole i'm probably exaggerating a little and i think 99% of people will be fine with it. I noticed similar issues just now when i checked out Die Another Day.....Check out the scene just before they go to the ice palace where Bond is walking down some steps and you see Big Ben in the background...The sky is blue and it appears to have had major grain reduction done to that scene....In fact it almost looks like macroblocking in the sky.... I'm probably being way too fussy.....On the whole From Russia With Love looks very good. ack_bk 10-18-08, 10:23 AM Thanks for the mini review. Too bad that they feel compelled to clean them up when it sounds like really,they don't know how. Art Well Robert Harris would disagree with you there: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...o-blu-ray.html Robert Harris Motion Picture Archivist Local Time: 04:52 PM Local Date: 10-17-2008 Posts: 2,537 A few words about...™ Dr. No - in Blu-ray Make no mistake. Dr. No was a film made on a tiny budget, which it outshines at virtually every turn. I've heard numerous tales about precisely how the Bond series got its start, and the one that I believe came from a UA exec who delivered the news to Mr. Broccoli and Mr. Saltzman. After meetings at UA, the pair were ensconced in their Manhattan luxury hotel, and on a particularly hot day, the air conditioning had gone down. When the exec arrived, he found the pair in their suite, nervously pacing in their shorts. The word from UA was positive. They were going to finance their film. And they were going to allow them to shoot... in color. From these inauspicious beginnings came probably the greatest financial blockbuster of all motion picture series, now hitting number 22. I'll say it again. Dr. No was an inexpensive film -- probably around one million or less. For those who have not seen the early films in the series, don't expect hundred million dollar extravaganzas. Just terrific filmmaking on a budget. I presume that it was photographed on Eastman 5250, the same emulsion that was exposed by Freddie Young to capture Lawrence of Arabia, and like many popular films, the original negative saw its share of use. M-G-M and Eon made a prudent move in permitting Lowry Digital to scan, digitize, and work their magic on the elements. A featurette produced several years ago describes the work performed as restoration, and while I'm not certain whether the actual work performed was restoration or digital cleanup, the final result on Blu-ray is nothing less than spectacular. There is also something of major importance to the home theater community to be learned here that has measurably increased the carbon footprint of the web since the release of Patton and The Longest Day months ago. And that is a very simply fact regarding noise and grain reduction. Noise and grain reduction are not, in and of themselves, bad things. The correct post facility, using the correct (here Lowry's proprietary) techniques, can make a huge difference in the viewing pleasure of films from the last half of the twentieth century.In this case, a film cropped to 1.66 and therefore enlarged for home video has an attractive sheen of delicate moving grain. Having worked with 5250 and 5251, this does not appear to be the original grain, but good, natural looking grain of a slightly later vintage. And the overall image is beautiful. What does this mean? Simple. It means that with the proper tools and the right people behind them, grain can be removed or reduced WITHOUT AFFECTING THE RESOLUTION, DETAIL OR HIGH FREQUENCY INFORMATION. Dr. No, via the wizards at Lowry Digital, looks far better than it has any right to look. The overall viewing experience is superb. The disc arrives at a street price with a full list of extras of around $23. The question that I raised earlier, as to whether this film is truly "restored" in the full sense of the word really doesn't come into play here. The single overriding fact is that the Blu-ray is as perfect as it can be. Any modifications to grain in moving toward the final resultant image are secondary, as unlike some of the other films which we consider classics, and which may actually depend upon the original grain structure, the Bond films are and always have been, pure visceral entertainment of the highest order -- more fashion than art, great story-telling, and as they moved from production to production, eventually produced on the grandest of budgetary scales. This is merely my first look at the new Blu Bonds. I need to spend some quality time with them as I can find the time, and will report back with findings. Suffice to say that the first episode, Dr. No, went well beyond my expectations. A very high quality disc representing the birth of a behemoth series. Highly Recommended. RAH FoxyMulder 10-18-08, 10:41 AM Well Robert Harris would disagree with you there: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...o-blu-ray.html Interesting that he says this ....The correct post facility, using the correct (here Lowry's proprietary) techniques, can make a huge difference in the viewing pleasure of films from the last half of the twentieth century.In this case, a film cropped to 1.66 and therefore enlarged for home video has an attractive sheen of delicate moving grain. Having worked with 5250 and 5251, this does not appear to be the original grain, but good, natural looking grain of a slightly later vintage. And the overall image is beautiful. It's not the original grain ? Why not ? Did they add it later to give an illusion of film grain ? How does all that work ? Maybe thats why my eyes seem to detect something wrong even if i can't fully put it into words other than saying it doesn't look totally natural to me on From Russia With Love even though detail levels are extremely high. MovieSwede 10-18-08, 11:00 AM It's not the original grain ? Why not ? Did they add it later to give an illusion of film grain ? How does all that work ? I guess they either did 1. Grain reduction, that removes some of the grain, and changes the grain structure as a result. 2. Grain removal, completly removed the grain, and then added simulated grain to recreate a more vintage filmlook. 3. The encode itself gives a slight different grainstructure when it tries to encode the grain with blockpatterns. 4. Something I have no idea of. But it still looks like film to me. So I would give the restoration work 2 thumbs up. tiger_qc 10-18-08, 11:00 AM All 6, Steelbooks pre-ordered @ FutureShop. (BestBuy USA will carry them too) Can't wait to watch them after I saw this screen shot (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/Polardoor/a1674d11.jpg). FoxyMulder 10-18-08, 11:04 AM I guess they either did 1. Grain reduction, that removes some of the grain, and changes the grain structure as a result. 2. Grain removal, completly removed the grain, and then added simulated grain to recreate a more vintage filmlook. 3. The encode itself gives a slight different grainstructure when it tries to encode the grain with blockpatterns. 4. Something I have no idea of. But it still looks like film to me. So I would give the restoration work 2 thumbs up. If it's simulated grain i wonder if that explains the moving ants on Rosa Klebbs head during an early scene which doesn't quite have a look of film grain for me...Perhaps the simulation didn't quite get it right there. If it is simulated grain it doesn't completely work for me. I would prefer the original natural grain but maybe the prints were in bad shape and they needed to do this to remove scratches and blemishes. It'll no doubt be interesting to hear more details from Mr Harris after he views this one....He's an expert and i am not so maybe i am wrong ( and i am quite willing to admit it ) MovieSwede 10-18-08, 11:07 AM If it's simulated grain i wonder if that explains the moving ants on Rosa Klebbs head during an early scene which doesn't quite have a look of film grain for me...Perhaps the simulation didn't quite get it right there. It could also be a combination, of different things. If it is simulated grain it doesn't completely work for me. That I cant argue It'll no doubt be interesting to hear more details from Mr Harris after he views this one....He's an expert and i am not so maybe i am wrong ( and i am quite willing to admit it ) I think neither of us, beat Mr Harris in this area. robertc88 10-18-08, 11:54 AM Well hollywoodguy did say on the BD review thread for the Bonds that for From Russia With Love, -- almost as good as Dr. No, but sharpened more aggressively. I wonder if that has something to do with it at all regarding the grain. Time will tell overall with this one though as I'm also interested in reading RAH's opinion on this movie as well. Even if I find these early this weekend, I'll wait for the good price from Circuit City. Places I usually find BDs early charge more than I would want to spend, especially it being so close to Tuesday at this point. FoxyMulder 10-18-08, 01:23 PM Well hollywoodguy did say on the BD review thread for the Bonds that for From Russia With Love, -- almost as good as Dr. No, but sharpened more aggressively. That might also be why i see some edge enhancement.....I think i had too high an expectation for these releases....They are high quality i would agree but from what i have seen so far they fall short of the best out there. |