2008 MLB Playoffs
National League Division Series
Live on TBS HD
1080i DD5.1



Eastern Division Champion Philadelphia Phillies (92-70) vs. National League Wild Card Milwaukee Brewers (90-72)
Gm 1 MIL 1 @ PHI 3
Gm 2 MIL 2 @ PHI 5
Gm 3 PHI 1 @ MIL 4
Gm 4* PHI 6 @ MIL 2
Phillies win best of 5 series 3-1


Western Division Champion Los Angeles Dodgers (84-78) vs. Central Division Champion Chicago Cubs (97-64)
Gm 1 LAD 7 @ CHC 2
Gm 2 LAD 10 @ CHC 3
Gm 3 CHC 1 @ LAD 3
Dodgers win best of 5 series 3-0


All Times ET
* If necessary

And away we go.

Pregame is up on TBS HD.

Anyone else getting quick audio dropouts? Getting them here on Socal VZ FiOS

MIL/PHI game is definitely out of sync here on Cablevision. Audio is a split second ahead of video, the same as last night's MIN/CHI game.

watching now...

no audio dropouts, but the picture is very grainy... almost looks like upscaled sd? maybe it's because of the way the light is, it's very dark to the north here right now and bright to the south... commercials are clear though... :rolleyes:

fios, south jersey (about 4 miles as the crow flies from the ballpark, which is why i have a good feel of what the light is like... ;) )...

edit: i'll be shocked if there isn't a rain delay here shortly... lot of thunder rumbling, and VERY windy...

I don't think the pq is very good at all. D* on a Pro 151. Dark, dingy, not very sharp and certain camera shots appear hazy.

Audio dropouts have been gone since more or less the game started. Picture is grainy but I think that might be the lighting?

So much for defense on the Brewers side, eh?

i think that the lighting conditions right now is causing the "darkness" of the picture... it's a really funky sky right now...

definitely "hazy" (what i referred to as "grainy") though... again, i think that might have something to do with the lighting as well, but i'm not sure...

geez, the brewers are handing the game to the sillies...

I noticed a few, switched back to the game before the commerical was over and the annoucers weren't ready and just silence.

I also tried out the tbs hot corner, with the 4 videos. It was ok, but being like 45 sec behind wasn't great nor was that the video stopped after each half inning.

Watching in Tampa on Brighthouse.

Anyone get static in the Sur. speakers after the home run?

Wierd audio problems going on.

Watching in Tampa on Brighthouse.

Anyone get static in the Sur. speakers after the home run?

Wierd audio problems going on.

Affirmative on the static. Wonder if it was some kind of clipping or something similar from the roar of the crowd.

Audio quality is lacking. I am getting no action from the rears.
Comcast Chicago.


I know that I should just be watching the game but after watching the SOX on TBS HD last night. The PQ and AQ were top notch. Not so much tonight. :(

Affirmative on the static. Wonder if it was some kind of clipping or something similar from the roar of the crowd.

Thanks for the affirmative. Probably was clipping because they panned the camera(s) awfully fast.

TBS-HD via D* on a Sammy 32" LCD. Freaking brilliant. Puts Fox to shame.

Looks great here in Los Angeles via FiOS :D

just switched second game on... pq is MUCHO better than the first game... all that nasty grain is gone... sound is good too, pretty immersive and balanced, no surround issues... of course, the fans aren't making a lot of noise right now... :)

fios south jersey...

In my opinion, video on DirecTV not as sharp as last night's Twins-Sox games where you could actually see the blades of grass as the pitcher was throwing to home plate.

In my opinion, video on DirecTV not as sharp as last night's Twins-Sox games where you could actually see the blades of grass as the pitcher was throwing to home plate.


And you could hear commentary from the front and rest of sounds from the game in the rears (music at the ball park, fans, etc..)

Thanks for the affirmative. Probably was clipping because they panned the camera(s) awfully fast.?

Audio does not have issues because of fast camera movement.

I guess I should have added the boilerplate:

Please remember to post what source you get TBS HD from: Dish, DirecTV, Cable (if cable, also post your cableco & location).

Thanks in advance for your participation at AVS.

Fightins' game looked very good via D* in Allentown, PA.
TBS has impressed me, much more so than FOX's telecasts.....in my area with D*.

Go Phils!!!

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Audio does not have issues because of fast camera movement.

Because of the quick action of sporting events the A/V can be out-of-sync at times especially switching views from what I observed over the years. The sound can lag behind the video while panning different cameras.

There is a thin vertical white line just in from the left edge of the picture (probably not visible if your set overscans). What's up with this?

I'm getting so much pixelation that this is almost unwatchable.

TBS HD on TWC in NC

(was fine yesterday though.)


Hm. Froze for a second and then it's magically fixed.

All I have to say is the Red Sox vs Angels in 1080i look SO MUCH better than the 720p broadcasts I've seen on Fox....including local and national games. I'm using Time Warner cable (Brighthouse) in southeastern Michigan. The improved detail and resolution is outstanding. I'm getting an extremely clean image too. (Viewing on an ISF'd 60" Sony SXRD 60A3000)

I really wish Fox would switch over to 1080i!

this is the NLDS thread....

not the ALDS thread...

Whoops ... my mistake. Although, I seriously doubt there is a need for two separate threads.

Brewers @ Phillies, looks fine, surround levels are low.

Comcast Detroit.

this is the NLDS thread....

not the ALDS thread...

Where is the AL thread?

Seems like there is pixelation, especially when panning with the crowd in the background. Picture seems better than White Sox/Rays matchup earlier though.

VZ FiOS SoCal

Where is the AL thread?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1071214

brewers/sillies...

pq much better than yesterday, i'm guessing that's because it's "under the lights" rather than the funny light yesterday afternoon... just a TAD of graininess... a bit of swimming grass, but only a bit... closeups and dugout shots are really good...

i agree with ken, a bit low in the surrounds...

fios, south jersey...

ps: oh noes... not the old "1080i is 'better' than 720p argument" again... ;)

Cablevision Long Island, NY

Does not look impressive at all. Lots of pixelation and audio delay.

I hate to say it but I think Fox looked better than this.

Cablevision Long Island, NY

Does not look impressive at all. Lots of pixelation and audio delay.

I hate to say it but I think Fox looked better than this.

Maybe a system issue? It looked decent on Comcast Detroit, no audio issues.

Brewers in a big hole, Phillies go up 2-0.

On to the left coast; Cubbies and Dodgers on deck.

I have had enough with Frank TV commercials. Sometimes during a single commercial break, there are 2 commercials for this upcoming show.

Stop, for the love of God!!!

Alright, looks like we have full 5.1 tonight (Comcast Chicago)!

As usual, Wrigley looks a little dark, otherwise looks fine, sounds better than previous game.

they killed us with the frank tv commercials last year as well... :(

initial pq on cubbies/dodgers game VERY good... just about as good as it gets... amazing background detail... sound very good as well, solid surrounds and immersive...

still fios, south jersey... ;)

ps. looks like big z has good stuff tonight...

pps. "left coast"? did they move chicago to california when i wasn't paying attention? :p

Alright, looks like we have full 5.1 tonight (Comcast Chicago)!

Except at times, when the crowd roars, the audio gets clipped!!!

I have had enough with Frank TV commercials. Sometimes during a single commercial break, there are 2 commercials for this upcoming show.

Stop, for the love of God!!!

It's good that I'm getting random dropouts during commercials... those Frank TV spots are REALLY irritating. Are they that hard up to get people to watch?

My money is on not having sold enough ads so they fill time with the Frank TV crap. I have no basis for that though.

Not sure anyone else notices, but every broadcast so far has been a tad 'washed out' -- when showing the regular behind the picture camera. Sorta like there is a cloud over the entire screen. In fact, the Viagra commercial that was just on had better picture quality than this view. The other cameras seem to have a little more detail, but nowhere near the equivalent of what I would be expecting for a major broadcast.

Except at times, when the crowd roars, the audio gets clipped!!!

Audio is not getting clipped anymore......:(

Dodgers @ Cubs, Game 2 PQ looks really good. Watching on a 50" 1080p plasma via D*. Excellent at normal viewing distances, a little soft up close. Blimp shots of Wrigley are some of the best blimp shots I've ever seen in any sport.

ESPN, Fox, and NBC take note - there's NO opaque background filler or useless graphic garbage above the TBS score bar - just clean and clear video, thank you very much.

Not looking forward to Fox's subpar 720p version of the World Series...

the shots of the disgruntled crowd during the cubs vs dodgers game looked great ;)

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"left coast"? did they move chicago to california when i wasn't paying attention? :p
When you live in the Great Lakes, ChiTown is the Left Coast.

Maybe a system issue? It looked decent on Comcast Detroit, no audio issues.

TBS baseball always looked like this on Sunday afternoons. It could be Cablevision.

What were they thinking when they scheduled the Cubs @ Dodgers game at 10:00pm ET on a Saturday night? I can sort of understand that time on a weekday when the L.A. people need to get home from work by 6 or 7pm local time, but on a weekend there's no good reason for that late of a start.

The Phillies @ Brewers game preceding it at 6:30 ET could have been pushed back earlier.

What were they thinking when they scheduled the Cubs @ Dodgers game at 10:00pm ET on a Saturday night? I can sort of understand that time on a weekday when the L.A. people need to get home from work by 6 or 7pm local time, but on a weekend there's no good reason for that late of a start.

The Phillies @ Brewers game preceding it at 6:30 ET could have been pushed back earlier.

I think that's a good time for everyone, even here in NY. Nothing really on TV at that time anyway. Had they showed this during the week like Red Sox/Angels, I would probably fall asleep.

What were they thinking when they scheduled the Cubs @ Dodgers game at 10:00pm ET on a Saturday night? I can sort of understand that time on a weekday when the L.A. people need to get home from work by 6 or 7pm local time, but on a weekend there's no good reason for that late of a start.

The Phillies @ Brewers game preceding it at 6:30 ET could have been pushed back earlier.

at least it's only 9 pm in chitown for that game... that 10pm start for the bosox the other night was definitely east coast unfriendly... :(

What were they thinking when they scheduled the Cubs @ Dodgers game at 10:00pm ET on a Saturday night? I can sort of understand that time on a weekday when the L.A. people need to get home from work by 6 or 7pm local time, but on a weekend there's no good reason for that late of a start.

The Phillies @ Brewers game preceding it at 6:30 ET could have been pushed back earlier.

well theres 2 football games here in LA on saturday. im sure they took that into consideration when choosing a time. USC plays a 5 ET and UCLA at 7 ET.

Comcast

TBS HD appears to be having trouble getting the commercials started in time. They are all cut 3 seconds short, which leads to either quick cuts or this weird stuttering noise.

At CBP, the picture quality and audio seem to be fine, no major problems.

At Wrigley, though, there are these tiny black lines that cut through the image every 10 seconds or so. They are horizontal and are in random positions on the screen.

I'm sure once TBS gets to cut their crews down to just 2 stadiums and 1 broadcast group, they will be back to producing top notch stuff.

Not sure anyone else notices, but every broadcast so far has been a tad 'washed out' -- when showing the regular behind the picture camera. Sorta like there is a cloud over the entire screen. In fact, the Viagra commercial that was just on had better picture quality than this view. The other cameras seem to have a little more detail, but nowhere near the equivalent of what I would be expecting for a major broadcast.

I agree. I am not impressed at all with the PQ.

brewers/sillies are up...

REAL nice pq... very sharp, no swimming grass... audio is "ok", i'm getting what sounds like a "beeping" sound occasionally from the right...

fios, south jersey...

I have Comcast and we have lost our TBS HD feed. It went out right before they came back from commercial for first pitch.

Still isn't back yet. As someone that records the games, I'm very pissed off.

Argh. Still not back on in HD. Did anyone else lose the feed?

Looks like we might be watching the Dodgers vs. Cubs on TNT, Brewers vs. Phillies are only in the 7th.

Please tell me the NLCS will be broadcast on another network. Those never-ending Frank TV promos are really p*ssing me off.

Comcast

TBS HD appears to be having trouble getting the commercials started in time. They are all cut 3 seconds short, which leads to either quick cuts or this weird stuttering noise.

I've noticed this as well. It doesn't seem to happen between every commercial, but has been there the entire Cubs/Dodgers series. I was originally wondering if it was something wrong with my TV. I am just curious if other people have noticed this?

P.S. I can't take it anymore...I'm done with the Cubs.

I've noticed this as well. It doesn't seem to happen between every commercial, but has been there the entire Cubs/Dodgers series. I was originally wondering if it was something wrong with my TV. I am just curious if other people have noticed this?

P.S. I can't take it anymore...I'm done with the Cubs.

TBS commercials aside, the AQ and PQ were awesome. However, the CQ sucked!







Cubs Quality :(

Please tell me the NLCS will be broadcast on another network. Those never-ending Frank TV promos are really p*ssing me off.

its gonna be on fox

Comcast

TBS HD appears to be having trouble getting the commercials started in time. They are all cut 3 seconds short, which leads to either quick cuts or this weird stuttering noise.




I see the same thing. They will do a national commercial for like Directv, then when it goes to a local commercial, the sound level goes way up, I have to lower it.
I was at my in-laws last night and they have Verizon Fios NY and the PQ seemed better than my Cablevision NY PQ, so I have to assume my carrier is at fault.

Dodgers Stadium appears to be very dimly lighted.

Saw a few minutes of the game between NFL action. PQ was very impressive, judos to Turner. Watching via of Comcast.

Is anybody seeing the sickening, over-hyped upcoming scenario I'm seeing? "Manny versus his old team"?

I can't stand the guy in the first place, and now I have to look forward to this?

This is why I hate the three divisional, wild card format. Well, one good thing - two lame-o NL teams, one of which will have to face the Rays or Red Sox from the superior AL.

(Maybe I should've posted that last part in the AL thread - but who cares?)

Dodgers @ Phillies for NL Crown; game 1 Thursday 10/9 on FOX.

Dishnetwork must be overcompressing, screen and scorebar were going blurry ALOT during the Brewers/Phillies series and now it's doing it during the TB/CHI game today.