2008 MLB Playoffs
American League Division Series
Live on TBS HD
1080i DD5.1



Eastern Division Champion Tampa Bay Rays (97-65) vs. Central Division Champion Chicago White Sox (89-74)
Gm 1 CWS 4 @ TB 6
Gm 2 CWS 2 @ TB 6
Gm 3 TB 3 @ CWS 5
Gm 4* TB 6 @ CWS 2
Rays win best of 5 series 3-1


Western Division Champion Los Angeles Angels (100-62) vs. American League Wild Card Boston Red Sox (95-67)
Gm 1 BOS 4 @ LAA 1
Gm 2 BOS 7 @ LAA 5
Gm 3 LAA 5 @ BOS 4
Gm 4* LAA 2 @ BOS 3
Red Sox win best of 5 series 3-1


All Times ET
* If necessary

And away we go.

Angels*

Angels*
Thanks.

Go Angels (or anyone playing the Red Sox)
Go Rays (seeing a certain AL NY team isn't in there).

Watching Red Sox @ Angels, Comcast Detroit.

Surround audio level is low. Video looks Ok.

Watching the Red Sox-Angels Game 1 right now on TBS HD...sound is okay and the picture is spectacular...one of the best I've ever seen...no mosquito noise or compression artifacts visible at all.

Source: Bright House Networks - Tampa

Display: Mitsubishi LT-46131 1080p LCD HDTV

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Picture is pretty good here on FiOS [Los Angeles], would be nice if the mic that's picking the cow bell sometimes would get muted though.

Picture is pretty good here on FiOS [Los Angeles], would be nice if the mic that's picking the cow bell sometimes would get muted though.

LOL...glad I'm not the only one who's hearing that...

LOL...glad I'm not the only one who's hearing that...

Left front.

Left front.

Yup...at first I thought someone was tapping on my window. :D

Watching White Sox v. Rays (Devil Rays?) .. had lots of pixelation then it stopped after awhile but there's this white line down the left side.. pretty annoying (like those Frank TV commercials).

Verizon FiOS SoCal

rays/chisox...

is it just me, or is something funky going on here? both the camera from behind the pitcher and the camera from the dugout appear to have SERIOUS issues... as well as another one... REALLY bad... almost looks like there are frames being dropped or bad interlacing or something like that? :confused:

fios, south jersey....

duh... it's me... :o somehow, my stb set itself back to outputting 480p...

MUCH better now... reasonably sharp, a little bit of swimming turf... decent color... decent audio, surrounds seem a little "distant", could be because they are inside?

Game two of Tampa Bay vs Chicago. Picture is quite good.
Sound is much better than Red Sox vs that other team with the long name.
You can hear what the announcers are saying.

One comment: the field turf in Tampa is ugly. It is a boring color and looks like
it has a heavy due on it. It is nice that they have a full dirt infield, though.
Presentation on TV is important, that is a bad looking field.

Dish Network on a Vizio GV42L.

someone mentioned a white line on the left side yesterday...

I'm seeing it now...

someone mentioned a white line on the left side yesterday...

I'm seeing it now...

I'll post some screengrabs later but it has been there both days. It is only on the actual game broadcast footage and only at Tampa.

I'd wager it is because this is probably one of the first 10 or so full 1080 HD broadcasts shot in the stadium and whatever issues that are usually hammered out by the stadiums on making the feeds availible for the satellite hookup, etc.

This also appears to be the 'D-squad' for TBS. Harold Reynolds, Mark Fein. They've had a considerable amount of glitches compared to the other broadcasts.

Red Sox @ Angels, Game 2 via D* on 50" 1080p plasma. Looks soft to me compared to last night's Cubs game at Wrigley. Handheld cams/long shots look a bit overcompressed.

I'd wager it is because this is probably one of the first 10 or so full 1080 HD broadcasts shot in the stadium and whatever issues that are usually hammered out by the stadiums on making the feeds availible for the satellite hookup, etc.You'd lose the bet. The venue (stadium) has nothing to do with the production. Mobile HD production units are in use pretty much year round, and are leased by the various HD providers for use at live events. The unit you are seeing tonight could be the same one that NBC, CBS, FOX, ESPN, etc. was using last week or last month. If you want to know specifics, ask AVS member homcom, who is up to speed on what units from what companies are being used by who, where, and when.

This also appears to be the 'D-squad' for TBS. Harold Reynolds, Mark Fein. They've had a considerable amount of glitches compared to the other broadcasts.It could be a production issue on site, or at Turner broadcast operations center in Atlanta.

Red Sox @ Angels Game 2 audio does not seem very immersive. Having to crank the surrounds way up and still not getting an in-the-stadium feel. Anaheim crowd going nuts, bases loaded, 7th inning, and all I hear is the announcers out of the fronts.

Wendel's NBC SNF is my reference for surround audio on sports and this TBS broadcast just isn't doing it for me.

Red Sox @ Angels Game 2 audio does not seem very immersive. Having to crank the surrounds way up and still not getting an in-the-stadium feel.

Wendel's NBC SNF is my reference for surround audio on sports and this TBS broadcast just isn't doing it for me.

Agree. Viewing on Comcast Detroit, video is fine, surround levels are low.

Agree. Viewing on Comcast Detroit, video is fine, surround levels are low.

It seems like it is cutting in and out. Like, it'll actually kick in the surrounds with the correct locations of the sound and then they will cut to a 'mashed up' feed of ambient noise that is dialed way down.

Skip says 'Listen to that crowd!' and I can't hear anything.

Wow. 11 straight postseason Red Sox wins vs. Angels. Wow.

If I were the Angels, I wouldn't waste my time with the cross country trip.

Sox get back into it with a win.

Weird commercial interruptions (2-3 seconds) in the Angels @ Red Sox game, now that it's on TBS, top 2nd.

Watching the Bosox-Angels game now on Comcast TBS-HD. The HD picture is great but the sound mix is strange. The announcers sound muffled and I'm getting some audio stutters.

Watching the Bosox-Angels game now on Comcast TBS-HD. The HD picture is great but the sound mix is strange. The announcers sound muffled and I'm getting some audio stutters.

I'm not sure if the center audio channel is too low or what, but it is very hard to hear the announcers over the crowd noise.

Angels/Red Sox, DirecTV Ch 247

The audio is out of sync. I'm hearing the crack of the bat and pop of the glove before they actually happen. Anyone else getting this?

Audio is in sync, but surrounds are still low, via Comcast Detroit.

Watching the Bosox-Angels game now on Comcast TBS-HD. The HD picture is great but the sound mix is strange. The announcers sound muffled and I'm getting some audio stutters.

For those of us who've watched the Red Sox over the course of the season on the New England Sports Network in HD, the TBS presentation seems much less crisp. Even my friends who've watched a few of NESN's HD games thought so. The images look as though they've been pushed through a "soft" filter.

I'm watching on FiOS, so it's not the distribution system that's responsible.

I'm actually finding the opposite, I think TBS HD is right up there with ESPN's at least on Comcast Boston. I've always felt NESN was good but nothing great.

Has anyone else though experiencing low vocal audio tonight. The background sounds are nice and crisp, such as ball hitting the glove or a hit, very nice sound on that but the announcer's are very low.

The TBS PQ on the Angels @ Red Sox looks soft, especially on the main center field cam looking in behind the pitcher. Not as sharp as the other TBS games I've seen. I agree with Seiji - I've got MLBEI and the NESN (1080i) games are much sharper than this.

Watching via D* on 50" 1080p plasma.

boswd, ESPN is 720p so saying the TBS game looks as good as ESPN isn't saying much.

I don't know just not seeing the samething via Comcast. the game right now at least IMHO is much better than NESN's broadcast's during the reg. season. Colors are more vibrant and can make out nice detail in the red caps of the angles and it still is a very sharp red. It's not soft where I am.

and ESPN has always blown away NESN thru my carrier.

Has anyone else though experiencing low vocal audio tonight. The background sounds are nice and crisp, such as ball hitting the glove or a hit, very nice sound on that but the announcer's are very low.
My thoughts exactly. This is the very reason I logged in tonight. I'm experiencing the same exact thing.

And both series go on. See ya tomorrow.

Audio sync issues for me as well. I hear the audio markedly before I see the video. D* in Central New Jersey.

I'm actually finding the opposite, I think TBS HD is right up there with ESPN's at least on Comcast Boston. I've always felt NESN was good but nothing great.

Has anyone else though experiencing low vocal audio tonight. The background sounds are nice and crisp, such as ball hitting the glove or a hit, very nice sound on that but the announcer's are very low.

I have to disagree with you about last nights game, I also have Comcast-Boston and I am with the majority opinion that the game looked very soft and filtered and have always felt that NESN PQ is far above what we saw for this game. However, I'm with you as far as ESPN goes and believe they have the best PQ for NFL telecast and would put them on a par with NESN in that department.

Angels/Red Sox, DirecTV Ch 247

The audio is out of sync. I'm hearing the crack of the bat and pop of the glove before they actually happen. Anyone else getting this?

Just saw your post. Had the same thing going on. It's not your DirecTV. My signal is via Service Electric Cable in NJ.

Just saw your post. Had the same thing going on. It's not your DirecTV. My signal is via Service Electric Cable in NJ.
had the same problem with Comcast in Boston suburbs, heard the crack of the bat as the ball was heading to the plate

It happened again! On Comcast, right before the game is about to begin, the HD feed is dropped. Luckily, it came back on right before the first inning started.

Angels @ Red Sox looks fine, surrounds are low. Comcast Detroit.

For some reason, Angels/Red Sox looks better than last night's coverage. Definitely seems crisper than Game Three.

This is strange. The picture from Fenway last night on Comcast SF Bay Area, was, I thought, great. Tonight, it's still very well saturated and bright but it seems to be a bit softer than last night. And again, the sound mix is terrible with the crowd noise being way out in front of the announcers. They sound like they are calling the game from a pay toilet.

Commentary audio is still low.

Maybe it's just me, but something else is bothering me and has been with TBS and this series. When a bit play occurs and the crowd explodes...it just sounds odd to me.

I just don't know how to explain this. The batter makes contact and the balls drops in the outfield. When the crowd explodes it sounds unnatural. It's as if someone has their hand on the volume knob...then when the crowd explodes this knob turning guy/gal cranks it up and then backs it down just a tick or two right away allowing it to level off. I know that isn't actually what is happening. It just sounds to me like the crowd noise is toned down when the commentators are speaking and the jacked up when a play happens in an unnatural fashion.

You are not alone I too thought it sounded odd. The announcers seem to fade in and out and Chip sounds like he has a sock in his mouth. Pictures look pretty decent but the audio isn't right. Way too much front effects yet low surrounds. Lip sync looks lightly off too. Do you hear the sporadic audio dropouts? Watching on D*

Red Sox @ Rays for AL Crown, game 1 Friday 10/10 on TBS.

Angels @ Red Sox, PQ was good except the main center field camera looking in behind the pitcher looked soft, similar to last night at Fenway.

TBS needs to work on the surround audio, it doesn't have the balance of NBC SNF or Fox's DD5.1 sports broadcasts. I thought the TBS announcers sounded kind of monaural most of the time. Even if I maxed out my surrounds, I could never get enough crowd noise to feel like I was there.

Go sox!!!!

TBS needs to work on the surround audio

NESN's coverage of regular-season games in Fenway had remarkable surround. It could even become annoying at times when some bozo was constantly yelling or banging something right next to the microphone in right field. Other than those cases, the crowd noise levels on NESN did convey that feeling of being in the ballpark. I didn't get any of that feeling during the TBS coverage. In fact, I had to strain to even hear surround effects in the rear speakers.

I wonder if the TBS engineers consult with the local teams' crews when setting up in an unfamiliar ballpark. Surely the NESN engineers know a lot more about Fenway than do the folks from Atlanta. My intuition tells me they probably don't bother to communicate with the locals at all.

I doubt Fenway was unfamiliar to them. They have the Red Sox on every other flippin week.

Yeah, really. It seems we can't get any relief from this team. Don't even wanna watch the rest of this thing now.

We'll probably have to put up with this major Red Sox against their ex-players, Manny, Nomar and Derek superhype for the WS now. God, I hope the Rays win - and I hope they do it quick.

And this also assures that they will be on TBS and ESPN practically every game next year, too. If it weren't for Baseball Tonight, I wouldn't even need ESPN during the baseball season.

I noticed last night while watching the Sox-Angels game that the audio sync issue seems to have been resolved. Now I am wondering if the forced reset I did on my D* HR-21 yesterday solved the audio sync problem.

I noticed last night while watching the Sox-Angels game that the audio sync issue seems to have been resolved. Now I am wondering if the forced reset I did on my D* HR-21 yesterday solved the audio sync problem.
I also noticed the sync problem was not there last night, (Comcast). If your forced reset was the solution, thanks ;)