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D-I-G-I-T-A-L
03-25-09, 10:27 AM
That one must have aired while I was out having sex with a bunch of hookers...


I guess I am the only one who notices him picking some random college groupie for sex parties in the beginning of the show.

Distorted
03-25-09, 10:28 AM
Sex with hookers?! I must've missed that episode. :eek:

I think the troll mixed up the other show, House, with the Brit doing an American to perfection.

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
03-25-09, 10:44 AM
I think the troll mixed up the other show, House, with the Brit doing an American to perfection.

:rolleyes:

Damien Lewis is British, and is pretending to be American.

and yeah this show is bad copy of house. I agree!

gakon
03-25-09, 11:30 AM
The cases are so horrible like the prostitutes wearing angel wings, there is no way this show survives season 2!

Why bother watching an incomplete story? Too much of a bother!

Why are you still watching? We understand, you don't like it. So stop watching and go away.

I guess I am the only one who notices him picking some random college groupie for sex parties in the beginning of the show.

First they were hookers, now college groupies.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15166512#post15166512

Funny how you pick up the troll designation so quickly around here.

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
03-25-09, 02:20 PM
Why are you still watching? We understand, you don't like it. So stop watching and go away.



First they were hookers, now college groupies.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15166512#post15166512

Funny how you pick up the troll designation so quickly around here.

First they were hookers, now college groupies.

What the difference? :confused:

LOL!

MeowMeow
03-25-09, 05:24 PM
So, um, dude? Why ya stickin round deez parts?

Just to be lame? Come on. We get it! You don't like the show. Congratulations. I'm sure NBC has email.

AAF
03-25-09, 06:49 PM
http://img37.imagehaven.net/img/thumbs/RS2JBF3JFU_Sarah_Shahi_40_TV_Guides_Sexiest_Stars_Party_-_March_24_6_.JPG (http://img37.imagehaven.net/img.php?id=RS2JBF3JFU_Sarah_Shahi_40_TV_Guides_Sexiest_Stars _Party_-_March_24_6_.JPG)

lax01
03-25-09, 08:05 PM
still hot

lax01
03-25-09, 09:55 PM
Some pretty classic Crewes lines tonight...loved it

Another pretty ridiculous plotline...can we get back to the main storyline plz?

gwsat
03-26-09, 08:41 PM
This was one of the very best Life episodes I have seen. I thought the guest cast, particularly the photographer and the little Asian lady coroner was terrific. this week's episode mixed humor and poignancy remarkably well. The scene between Ted and his daughter, in which the daughter confesses that her baby's father has abandoned them and she had named the baby "Ted" comes to mind. This week's show was REALLY good stuff!

AAF
03-26-09, 10:48 PM
I believe the little coroner was Linda Park from the failed "Enterprise" series.

I also enjoy the father - daughter scene....but I couldn't figure out if Ted was laughing hysterically or crying. The character was supposed to be crying, but I thought Adam Arkin was laughing and hiding his face.

More Arkin would be good in my book.

replayrob
03-27-09, 09:09 AM
http://img37.imagehaven.net/img/thumbs/RS2JBF3JFU_Sarah_Shahi_40_TV_Guides_Sexiest_Stars_Party_-_March_24_6_.JPG (http://img37.imagehaven.net/img.php?id=RS2JBF3JFU_Sarah_Shahi_40_TV_Guides_Sexiest_Stars _Party_-_March_24_6_.JPG)
Wow.. Sarah is just glowing!
From my own personal experience- well along pregnant women just give off this healthy radiant glow- and look better than they ever have. Our doctor told us it's all the hormones the pregnancy releases that just kind of makes them "super healthy" for a few months.
Best wishes to her and her child :D:D

MeowMeow
03-27-09, 12:54 PM
Guess the pregnancy is why Reese gets to go for a car ride at the end of the last episode.

I'll have to add that to the list for some day when we revive the old "TV writing isn't like other forms of writing" discussion in some thread.

jabbathespud
03-27-09, 02:09 PM
Given that Reese was "working" for a group that didn't exist, I'm not sure she is going to San Diego where she thinks she's headed. You don't 3 additional escorts for a small trip south. Why not let her driver to the San Diego federal building herself?

rdgrimes
03-27-09, 03:25 PM
That's the trouble with the FBI. They'll give you a ride, but never take you where you want to go.

Only 2 more eps for this season, and prolly for the series. :(

keenan
03-27-09, 04:31 PM
That's the trouble with the FBI. They'll give you a ride, but never take you where you want to go.

Only 2 more eps for this season, and prolly for the series. :(

Probably, and I'm blaming Shahi for a lot of it. May sound harsh, but she didn't make the commitment to the show that it needed. Creating life is a wonderful thing, but not when you're only 20 eps or so into a brand new show. Maybe she figured it wasn't even going to make it past the first season.

AAF
03-27-09, 06:08 PM
With the Leno deal, NBC trimming back on dramas, I suspect you're right about the fate of Life.

Perhaps, just wild speculation out of my buttocks, Life could move to one of the other NBC Universal properties like L&O: Crminal Intent did?

keenan
03-27-09, 08:11 PM
With the Leno deal, NBC trimming back on dramas, I suspect you're right about the fate of Life.

Perhaps, just wild speculation out of my buttocks, Life could move to one of the other NBC Universal properties like L&O: Crminal Intent did?

I think that happened merely through the power of Dick Wolf who created all those L&Os. But, Life is an NBC/Universal production so it's possible, but probably too expensive.

philw1776
03-28-09, 09:50 AM
I'll miss this show. I really like Lewis (Soames on PBS) and Shahi. Liked the original Zen quirkiness which admitedly isn't as well done this season. The ongoing mystery of the theft & murder gives it another dimension.

slowbiscuit
03-28-09, 10:14 AM
I would miss it a lot more if it still had the excellent writing from S1. There's nothing magic about it now, but it's better than most of the other cop shows out there. Life on Mars is the only one I can think of that does it better, but it's ending next week. I'll don't get why they've mostly ignored the main plot that drove this show from the beginning, but I'd bet it was because of the ratings in S1.

lobosrul
03-28-09, 10:23 AM
If NBC cancels this show without concluding the main story arc, then I'm done with the network. The only scripted show I still watch on NBC is Chuck. I won't even give any new shows a chance... except The Tonight Show, Conan style of course.

MeowMeow
03-29-09, 09:40 PM
I would miss it a lot more if it still had the excellent writing from S1. There's nothing magic about it now, but it's better than most of the other cop shows out there. Life on Mars is the only one I can think of that does it better, but it's ending next week. I'll don't get why they've mostly ignored the main plot that drove this show from the beginning, but I'd bet it was because of the ratings in S1.

+1

I've said it before, but I'll reiterate it: Life is going to be loved after cancellation the same way Dead Like Me was. People will focus on what was great about the first season, and act largely oblivious to the cliff dive it took in the second season.

bfdtv
03-29-09, 09:48 PM
I would miss it a lot more if it still had the excellent writing from S1. There's nothing magic about it now, but it's better than most of the other cop shows out there. Life on Mars is the only one I can think of that does it better, but it's ending next week. I'll don't get why they've mostly ignored the main plot that drove this show from the beginning, but I'd bet it was because of the ratings in S1.I agree completely.

replayrob
03-30-09, 09:34 AM
With the Leno deal, NBC trimming back on dramas, I suspect you're right about the fate of Life.
You never know... maybe Leno will tank at 10PM and NBC will have to go back to scripted shows or just go out of business (or ask the Pres for a handout because they're too big to fail :rolleyes:).
If I'm a typical viewer... Leno's in in trouble.

vfxproducer
03-30-09, 01:17 PM
I don't know what you guys all dislike so much about this season. While it might not quite be up to par with the first season, I would hardly call the second season a 'cliff dive'. It's still, I think, in the top 4 or 5 shows on the air right now. Maybe that's not saying much given the quality of television these days. But I would *much* rather watch Life than *any* show on ABC, CBS, or the CW. I'm very intrigued by what is going on with Reese and the FBI, for instance. I want to know how that plays out.

MeowMeow
03-30-09, 10:56 PM
I don't know what you guys all dislike so much about this season. While it might not quite be up to par with the first season, I would hardly call the second season a 'cliff dive'.

#1: No clear villain. The Jack Reese story arc from S1 was much more coherent than the interplay with the various FBI figures is as we come to the end of S2.

#2: Too procedural. Life was better when it wasn't like other cop shows.

#3-A: Not enough Zen. I thought S1's emphasis on Charlie's destructive streak was interesting.

#3-B: Charlie is too heroic. S1 implied several times that Charlie wasn't clean, even before he went to jail. And now that particular thread has gone poof. Charlie is all hero now.

The material for S2 just isn't as deep. Charlie's cleaner now. The overall story arc is more scattered.

Life is at its best when the show experiments. For example, the dead astronaut episode (yes, I know it is S2) was an interesting rethink of the classic "murder in a box" plot.

We've all seen a million cop shows by this point in our lives. Life doesn't work well when it's just another cop show.

slowbiscuit
03-31-09, 06:52 AM
#4: Charlie's hot ex-wife totally MIA with an unresolved story.

#5: Ditto his equally hot lawyer and the backstory from his time in jail.

#6: The superb Adam Arkin mostly an afterthought now.

And most importantly -
#7: Muddled (and maddening) playout of the plot that drove this show from the beginning - hey writers, it's called 'Life' because he got framed for life in prison. It's not just another cop show, no matter how clever it is.

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
03-31-09, 10:59 AM
Looks like I made the right choice in giving up this show! :D

It's turn into case by case show with no overall story.

slowbiscuit
03-31-09, 11:06 AM
Go away, troll.

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
03-31-09, 11:16 AM
Go away, troll.

Your trolling too on this show. :D

vfxproducer
03-31-09, 01:42 PM
#1: No clear villain.The Jack Reese story arc from S1 was much more coherent than the interplay with the various FBI figures is as we come to the end of S2.
Really? I thought they were clearly setting up Roman Nevikov as the villain in the background pulling the strings. So far, it seems he has had ties to elder Reese and all the other cops involved in the old bank robbery, as well as the corrupt FBI guy. Also, in general, I've had no problem identifying the entire FBI organize crime task force as a group of villains. Especially now since it looks like they were kidnapping younger Reese at the end of last week's episode.

#2: Too procedural. Life was better when it wasn't like other cop shows.
I don't see that. Almost none of the crimes were solved by "procedural' TV show crap. No emphasis on DNA, fibers, microscope views, super-slow-mo views of bullets. No impossible computer simulations leading to the killer. It's mostly been Cruise's wild hunches that have ultimately led to solving the murders.

#3-A: Not enough Zen. I thought S1's emphasis on Charlie's destructive streak was interesting.
I agree with you there.

#3-B: Charlie is too heroic. S1 implied several times that Charlie wasn't clean, even before he went to jail. And now that particular thread has gone poof. Charlie is all hero now.
I don't know about that. I think we still see his dirty side. Like remaking the bullet and using it to shoot the FBI guy. Or letting the military guys go after they got revenge on the bullet proof vest supplier. Or using the creepy intenet security kid to sabotage the private investigator lady's clients. Or the ties he clearly still has to the other prison inmates who protected his buddy. Short of just popping a suspect in the back of the head instead of arresting him, or pocketing cash or drugs, I'm not sure what else they need to do to show his more, um, 'pragmatic' approach.

Ultimately, the only dissapointing aspect of this show for me is that they haven't really advanced the story of his hunt for the person responsible for framing him. And they completely dropped the story of the daughter of the people he was framed for murdering. I'd like them to wrap those stories up already. But the rest of the show is still different enough and entertaining enough to be one of the few 'must see' shows this season, in my opinion.

MeowMeow
03-31-09, 03:55 PM
Well, to be clear about my position, Life is the only cop show I watch regularly (or, more accurately, make an effort to catch up on). Even a crippled version of Life is better than any other cop show on TV these days.

Life is still a decent show. I'd like them to get back to the show's best elements more than anything else.

#4: Charlie's hot ex-wife totally MIA with an unresolved story. #5: Ditto his equally hot lawyer and the backstory from his time in jail.

#8: Too much retooling. A lot of story has been left for dead.

The disappearance of the lawyer plot disappointed me the most. Charlie's lawyer was the only character in the entire show who had any understanding of what he went through. I thought the best tension on the show came from Charlie and his lawyer, because their relationship was built around spending so much time on his case when he was in jail.

The wife plot ... meh. I get it. But, I thought it was better when it was adversarial, such as the horse episode.

philw1776
03-31-09, 06:49 PM
I thought the lawyer was smoking hot. Miss her. Series has gone downhill this season for reasons cited previously. I still like it and watch it but sadly my taste is orthorgonal to network demographics as I only watch literally a handful of TV shows.

DDD
04-01-09, 11:45 PM
I know I'm going to get some jazz, but I thought tonight's show was one of the best episodes of any tv I've ever seen. Yes, I did watch BSG:D

Pagali
04-02-09, 12:11 AM
I know I'm going to get some jazz, but I thought tonight's show was one of the best episodes of any tv I've ever seen. Yes, I did watch BSG:D

I agree with you on both counts.

I noticed that it said "Season finale next week" not "Series" finale. I don't know if that really gives us any hope, but at least it sounded good. :D

philw1776
04-02-09, 08:42 AM
Agreed that last night 'Life' hit its stride again. I like Crews new partner; she like Shahi is a master of quirky facial expressions. Great stroy thread going on about the past. Guess Crews won't be voting for Prop 38 when he goes out to get his bigger gun.

replayrob
04-02-09, 08:43 AM
I know I'm going to get some jazz, but I thought tonight's show was one of the best episodes of any tv I've ever seen. Yes, I did watch BSG:D
Yeah, it was much better than most of the season 2 Life episodes so far.
Very tense at the end... can't wait to see what Tidwell's going to do to that nasty FBI agent lady when Crews lets him in on the gun/cellphone info....
"I am Roman Nevikov !" :D:D:D:D

vfxproducer
04-02-09, 12:02 PM
can't wait to see what Tidwell's going to do to that nasty FBI agent lady when Crews lets him in on the gun/cellphone info....
"I am Roman Nevikov !" :D:D:D:D

I didn't think it was one of the best of the season, but it had it's moments. I really, really want to see Tidwell have a 'moment' with the FBI lady. I imagine something involving a steep cliff along Mulhulland drive.

So, as I pointed out earlier, Roman is clearly the villain this season, I'm not sure why there was any question of that. But come, on, paying somebody to serve your time? Like nobody would notice that the tall blonde Terminator-looking dude magically turned into a short fat man? That was ridiculous. Weak writing.

And Cruise showed again that he isn't exactly what you might think of as a clean' cop, by framing the killer with a fake tape. Cruise might as well have pretended to find some drugs in his pocket. It amounts to the same kind of tactics. Frankly, I'm OK with that. Los Angeles could use some real cops like Cruise.

I really really like the English (I assume) security lady. More of her, please.

rdgrimes
04-02-09, 12:51 PM
So, as I pointed out earlier, Roman is clearly the villain this season, I'm not sure why there was any question of that. But come, on, paying somebody to serve your time? Like nobody would notice that the tall blonde Terminator-looking dude magically turned into a short fat man? That was ridiculous. Weak writing.



I think you missed the point. Point being that obviously he was not Roman and the prison knew it. Money can do that, especially when you own the FBI too. There was no pretense.

keenan
04-02-09, 12:57 PM
I think you missed the point. Point being that obviously he was not Roman and the prison knew it. Money can do that, especially when you own the FBI too. There was no pretense.

Yes, a possible indicator of just how far Roman's reach extends.

Definitely a good episode this week, and I'm with vfx, more of the Brit PI would be a good thing.

Matt Roush's comments about "Life"s chances, from the HOTP thread,

Question: What can be done to save Life? It's a phenomenal series with outstanding actors (especially Damian Lewis), intriguing plot twists and an artful blend of sly wit and great staging (the use of dark and light, good and evil, chaos with the zen). For those of us who have little to watch on commercial TV, please listen!!!!—Kathy

Matt Roush: I’m listening, and I wish more TV viewers would as well. (Seriously, what makes the revolting and woodenly acted Criminal Minds more of a draw on Wednesdays than this clever piece of L.A. sun-drenched noir?) The good news about Life is that, unlike nearly everything else except 30 Rock on NBC, it has something of a thriving critical reputation—Life made it onto the AFI top-10 list last year—but that may not be enough to help it escape the doldrums that’s dragging down the entire network. (Saddling the show with lead-ins like the mercifully defunct Knight Rider and The Chopping Block hasn’t helped much, either.) With fewer slots available to dramas next season thanks to the brilliant Jay Leno five-nights-a-week scheduling, Life’s life span is obviously in danger of being cut prematurely short. Keeping fingers crossed until May, when we’ll know more.

philw1776
04-02-09, 01:13 PM
I really really like the English (I assume) security lady. More of her, please.

The lead actor Damien Lewis (Crews) is married to her in real life. I think she looks older than her actual age.

vfxproducer
04-02-09, 04:10 PM
I think you missed the point. Point being that obviously he was not Roman and the prison knew it. Money can do that, especially when you own the FBI too. There was no pretense.

I got the point, but it's ridiculous. As much money and power as Roman has, you still couldn't pull that off. Or the John Gotti types in our prison system would have done it long ago. Paying people to protect you in prison, sure. Paying other inmates to rough up or kill another prisoner, sure. Paying off the entire criminal justice system so you can just walk home unoticed? No. They might was well have said he turned into lava and melted his way throught the prison walls. That would be just as realistic.

keenan
04-02-09, 04:14 PM
I got the point, but it's ridiculous. As much money and power as Roman has, you still couldn't pull that off. Or the John Gotti types in our prison system would have done it long ago. Paying people to protect you in prison, sure. Paying other inmates to rough up or kill another prisoner, sure. Paying off the entire criminal justice system so you can just walk home unoticed? No. They might was well have said he turned into lava and melted his way throught the prison walls. That would be just as realistic.
I agree, it is unrealistic, but it is TV... and it is the LA County jail system, prisoners have walked right out the place before.

philw1776
04-02-09, 06:09 PM
I got the point, but it's ridiculous. As much money and power as Roman has, you still couldn't pull that off. Or the John Gotti types in our prison system would have done it long ago. Paying people to protect you in prison, sure. Paying other inmates to rough up or kill another prisoner, sure. Paying off the entire criminal justice system so you can just walk home unoticed? No. They might was well have said he turned into lava and melted his way throught the prison walls. That would be just as realistic.

What you say is so, but what if the FBI & govt is doing it? He was a protected source, previously protected for murder. If you think that can't happen see the Boston FBI and murderer Whitey Bulger's free reign for 2 decades.

MeowMeow
04-03-09, 11:20 AM
Hmmm... I wonder if Life is trying to pull a Jericho: end the season with such a big OMFG moment that fans will freak if the network doesn't renew the show.

I liked the exchange between Ted and the English woman:

Her: "I know everything."
Ted: "What's that like."
Her: "Mostly disappointing."

The single episode plot was a bit weak. On the upside, more big story arc. Last two episodes of the season should be very interesting.

I think you missed the point. Point being that obviously he was not Roman and the prison knew it. Money can do that, especially when you own the FBI too. There was no pretense.

+1. Correct interpretation.

Remember that one of the undercurrents of the show is extensive corruption. The whole Roman's stand-in plot point was just the first time in a while that the show really jumped up and down and screamed about it.

MeowMeow
04-03-09, 11:31 AM
What you say is so, but what if the FBI & govt is doing it? He was a protected source, previously protected for murder. If you think that can't happen see the Boston FBI and murderer Whitey Bulger's free reign for 2 decades.

Better examples would be Lucky Luciano and Meyer Lansky.

Luciano's ties to US intelligence and law enforcement were considered critical to the liberation of Sicily during WWII.

Lansky was one of the first people to get deep into the sort of money transfers and secret bank accounts that are now considered essential to running any decent clandestine operation. His role in Batista-era Cuba is well-known. And there have always been claims that the Jewish Mafia played a critical role in the founding of Israel. Certainly they assisted in smuggling guns and refugees.

Point being, elements of the United States government have always colluded with the criminal underground. Admittedly, my two example are probably about as shiny and noble as you're going to find.

rdgrimes
04-03-09, 11:55 AM
Last two episodes of the season should be very interesting.


I thought we have only one more episode. :confused:

keenan
04-03-09, 02:40 PM
I thought we have only one more episode. :confused:

Correct, only one more to go.

slowbiscuit
04-03-09, 07:54 PM
I got the point, but it's ridiculous. As much money and power as Roman has, you still couldn't pull that off. Or the John Gotti types in our prison system would have done it long ago. Paying people to protect you in prison, sure. Paying other inmates to rough up or kill another prisoner, sure. Paying off the entire criminal justice system so you can just walk home unoticed? No. They might was well have said he turned into lava and melted his way throught the prison walls. That would be just as realistic.
+1. So-so murder plot in this ep but way better on the main story front. Glad to see Adam Arkin get some more screen time, even though he didn't do anything.
But the Roman 'get out of jail card' was utterly unbelievable.

jebbbz
04-03-09, 11:00 PM
And Cruise showed again that he isn't exactly what you might think of as a clean' cop, by framing the killer with a fake tape. Cruise might as well have pretended to find some drugs in his pocket. It amounts to the same kind of tactics. Frankly, I'm OK with that. Los Angeles could use some real cops like Cruise.

We don't know how far Charlie would have tried to push the tape but he wasn't trying to frame the husband. He was trying to provoke a falling out between the two plotters and/or a confession or two. In interrogations and, I assume, investigations, while coercion is forbidden trickery and deception are not. As long as the tape was not introduced at trial as evidence of the husband's guilt it was OK.

Distorted
04-04-09, 12:29 AM
Why would an investigator working for an insurance company care to prove the insured was dead or who killed him if he was?

MeowMeow
04-04-09, 01:09 AM
Correct, only one more to go.

My bad. Sorry if I misinformed anyone. Was thinking of another show.

jcalabria
04-08-09, 09:01 PM
Well... that looked more like a series finale than a season finale.

HDMe2
04-08-09, 09:08 PM
That's how it felt to me too... That would be a shame if so.

rdgrimes
04-08-09, 10:34 PM
Very good episode in any case.

jcalabria
04-08-09, 10:41 PM
Very good episode in any case.

Yes, it was... but once Rayborn started explaining things, I said "Uh Oh!". NBC website still billed it as a Season Finale, though.

LongRufus
04-09-09, 01:34 AM
A really nice job of an open ended finale by the producers. It's probably the end for the show, but I would love to see a Prison Break/24 type deal for Life and Friday Night Lights in the Friday 9 PM time slot. 13 episodes of Life in the fall would be better than nothing. And since they are NBCs' two most critically acclaimed dramas, it makes a bit of sense.

rrainwater
04-09-09, 12:04 PM
Well... that looked more like a series finale than a season finale.

It was created so it could be both. Since there was no news at the time of production, they made it so it could at least have a satisfactory ending if the show ends up canceled (which is most likely).

jcalabria
04-09-09, 12:12 PM
It was created so it could be both. Since there was no news at the time of production, they made it so it could at least have a satisfactory ending if the show ends up canceled (which is most likely).

Seems like they answered too many questions to continue the show, at least without a major shift in premise and a new back story. Still, I'll be ready if it comes back... the characters are good enough to handle the shift. I already lost Life on Mars, if this goes bye-bye I'll have no "life" at all, lol.

vfxproducer
04-09-09, 12:25 PM
Seems like they answered too many questions to continue the show, at least without a major shift in premise and a new back story.

Not really. They still haven't given us specifics about what the organization that Rayborn was running is all about. It has got to be something big, if Roman was hoping to be chosen to take it over some day. And there are still some blank spots on the wall. Who those people are, and how they fit in, is still a mystery.

I thought this was a great episode. But I would have preferred a little more dramatic ending to Roman. Something more interesting than a surprise karate chop to the neck. Other than that, a fantastic hour of television.

spyder696969
04-09-09, 12:47 PM
I actually liked Roman's demise. Quick and to the point. Charlie's "zen-like" vision (including the orange groves) right before the act of killing him was wonderfully done and tied in with the tone set since the very first episode. :)

I won't be shocked if this show never returns...America seems to ignore true quality programming like this so that networks can make room for puke-tastic drek like Osbournes Reloaded and Prison Break. :(

jcalabria
04-09-09, 01:01 PM
I actually liked Roman's demise. Quick and to the point. Charlie's "zen-like" vision (including the orange groves) right before the act of killing him was wonderfully done and tied in with the tone set since the very first episode. :)

I won't be shocked if this show never returns...America seems to ignore true quality programming like this so that networks can make room for puke-tastic drek like Osbournes Reloaded and Prison Break. :(

I liked it, too. Certainly had some shock factor (in its timing... not that it was a break from Charlie's personality/history).

gwsat
04-09-09, 01:37 PM
I liked this episode a lot, too. Nevertheless, it certainly looks as if NBC is not going to renew. That's too bad because I thought the show had really got back on track in recent weeks. In NBC's defense, though, if they do cancel, I thought a lot of episodes earlier in the season were not up to those in Life's consistently excellent first season.

rdgrimes
04-09-09, 01:48 PM
In NBC's defense, though, if they do cancel, I thought a lot of episodes earlier in the season were not up to those in Life's consistently excellent first season.
Yes, we are all aware of NBC's high standards. ;)

AAF
04-09-09, 02:06 PM
I agree. Well done. Loved Roman's demise. Nice end to the series that should, but won't, be renewed.

You have to think that Garret Dillahunt (Roman Nevikov) has set some sort of record. He's a critical component of two season finales, on two different networks, that also probably doubled as series finales.

keenan
04-09-09, 02:33 PM
Great episode, showed the best the show has to offer. Also agree that the "it's just a car" vs "I need a bigger gun" Zen moment of Roman's death was done perfectly. Plenty of ambiguity as well to fuel another season, although that really seems unlikely at this point.

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
04-09-09, 02:42 PM
I actually liked Roman's demise. Quick and to the point. Charlie's "zen-like" vision (including the orange groves) right before the act of killing him was wonderfully done and tied in with the tone set since the very first episode. :)

I won't be shocked if this show never returns...America seems to ignore true quality programming like this so that networks can make room for puke-tastic drek like Osbournes Reloaded and Prison Break. :(

Prison Break is lot more entertaining, more exciting, and has a much better conspiracy storyline then this show's boring characters, and stupid plot for each episode like the Russian, and prostitutes with wings episode of LIFE.

MeowMeow
04-09-09, 02:51 PM
I actually liked Roman's demise. Quick and to the point.

I did, too.

But, it did ruin the potential outrage factor should they can the show. Aside from Mickey, there aren't many loose ends. Of course, what are viewers going to do when they cancel Life? Send in tons of oranges?

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
04-09-09, 02:55 PM
I did, too.

But, it did ruin the potential outrage factor should they can the show. Aside from Mickey, there aren't many loose ends. Of course, what are viewers going to do when they cancel Life? Send in tons of oranges?

http://boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?showtopic=819622


Here is a generic link where you can send a polite, yet firm 'Save Life' email. Make sure you thank them for giving Life a Season 2, and thank them for the resolutions in the final episode. Then state the reasons why you love Life, and why it should return for a 3rd Season. Make sure you include your contact information and demographic (sex, age, ethnicity, annual salary).

AAF
04-09-09, 02:59 PM
Prison Break is lot more entertaining, more exciting, and has a much better conspiracy storyline then this show's boring characters, and stupid plot for each episode like the Russian, and prostitutes with wings episode of LIFE.

Prison Break? Is that piece of crap still on the air?

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
04-09-09, 03:00 PM
Prison Break? Is that piece of crap still on the air?

Yes, and it will much longer then this low rated show called LIFE did!

:D

keenan
04-09-09, 03:03 PM
Prison Break? Is that piece of crap still on the air?

:p:D

Yes, believe it or not, it comes back with the final eps in a few weeks I think. I've been stock-piling eps on the DVR with the intent of "maybe" watching them in the future and thought the show was already over and done with awhile ago.

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
04-09-09, 03:04 PM
I doubt Life would get a FINAL episode like Prison Break has now.

rdgrimes
04-09-09, 04:46 PM
You have to think that Garret Dillahunt (Roman Nevikov) has set some sort of record. He's a critical component of two season finales, on two different networks, that also probably doubled as series finales.

More like a curse:

Deadwood (2 roles)
John From Cincinnati
The Book of Daniel (canceled mid-1st season)

All canceled. I've prolly left some out.

MeowMeow
04-09-09, 04:54 PM
More like a curse:

Deadwood (2 roles)
John From Cincinnati
The Book of Daniel (canceled mid-1st season)

All canceled. I've prolly left some out.

The 4400, although that was really a mercy killing rather than a cancellation.

AAF
04-09-09, 06:49 PM
At least Life and The Sarah Connor Chronicles will have some sort of closure despite being network series. Funny how that will never be available to Deadwood.

My comment about DIGITAL's post re: Prison Break could have been clearer. So to summarize "who gives a ****?"

He trolls in a lot of threads.

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
04-09-09, 06:51 PM
At least Life and The Sarah Connor Chronicles will have some sort of closure despite being network series. Funny how that will never be available to Deadwood.

My comment about DIGITAL's post re: Prison Break could have been clearer. So to summarize "who gives a ****?"

He trolls in a lot of threads.

Yes, like how either people troll about other shows while commenting on there favorite show.

keenan
04-09-09, 07:34 PM
At least Life and The Sarah Connor Chronicles will have some sort of closure despite being network series. Funny how that will never be available to Deadwood.

My comment about DIGITAL's post re: Prison Break could have been clearer. So to summarize "who gives a ****?"

He trolls in a lot of threads.

Yes, I know...

moob
04-09-09, 08:38 PM
More like a curse:

Deadwood (2 roles)
John From Cincinnati
The Book of Daniel (canceled mid-1st season)

All canceled. I've prolly left some out.

Still not as bad as Jewel Staite. If she's on a show, it's going to be canceled. Her imdb page is like a graveyard.

As for Life, at least they gave us a great episode to go out on, and some closure. I do wish it would come back since it's the only cop show I care to watch (not really counting Dexter as a cop show :p), but it doesn't look good.

lax01
04-09-09, 08:43 PM
Of course someone called me right as Crews hits Roman...ugh...the nerve of some people

Loved it...great series finale

gwsat
04-10-09, 08:40 AM
Yes, we are all aware of NBC's high standards. ;)
I think we agree that NBC's standards are anything but "high." My comment that the weakness of some of this season's earlier Life episodes was cover for NBC related to the show's relatively low numbers, not its quality. As we well know, quality finishes a distant third to how much money a show makes and how much it costs to make. Anyway if NBC acts as we suspect they will, I will miss LIfe a lot. It was really fun again at the end.

Originally Posted by AAF
You have to think that Garret Dillahunt (Roman Nevikov) has set some sort of record. He's a critical component of two season finales, on two different networks, that also probably doubled as series finales.
More like a curse:

Deadwood (2 roles)
John From Cincinnati
The Book of Daniel (canceled mid-1st season)

All canceled. I've prolly left some out.
We may have to give Dillahunt a pass for Deadwood, his Francis Wolcott character was killed off in the final episode of Season Two, so he didn’t appear in the show’s third and final season. (Sorry for the Deadwood nerdiness, sometimes I just can’t help myself. :)).

replayrob
04-10-09, 08:44 AM
Still not as bad as Jewel Staite. If she's on a show, it's going to be canceled. Her imdb page is like a graveyard.
They said that about Jayne... er... Adam Baldwin too- but Chuck is cruising along nicely.

Tom Imp
04-10-09, 01:03 PM
So, I assume this is setting up a love triangle between Crews, Reese and Tidwell.

So, for someone who never watched the 1st season, are we to assume that the conspiracy is finally over? Did Charlie figure out completely who framed him and now that storyline is over or is there more?

VisionOn
04-13-09, 06:42 PM
So, for someone who never watched the 1st season, are we to assume that the conspiracy is finally over? Did Charlie figure out completely who framed him and now that storyline is over or is there more?

Not according to his conspiracy wall. He has another branch that needs to be filled.

That was a fantastic season finale with a great unexpected and swift end to Roman. I enjoy this show so much more when it isn't just the crazy case of the week. I liked the way Crews went back to his prison rules for survival despite his need for zen, and the minivan stuff was great.

"That's not zen Charlie."
"It will just have to do until zen comes along."

vinnie97
04-14-09, 12:29 AM
Life is a quality show but I'm also excited about the return and finale of Prison Break. ;)

rugby
04-30-09, 06:27 AM
I finally caught up with my recorded episodes and loved the season finale. I hope the show makes it back but it doesn't look good.

Stryker412
05-05-09, 03:02 PM
Life has officially been cancelled:

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/nbcs-fall-shows-our-early-look--294

NBC Entertainment co-chairman Ben Silverman did confirm, however, that sadly "Life" is dead.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/05/nbc-cancels-life-and-promises-svu-with-or-without-its-lead-stars.html

Really bummed about this, my wife and I thoroughly enjoyed the show.

rdgrimes
05-05-09, 03:33 PM
No surprise. What is surprising is that such a well-written show ever got on NBC in the first place, and lasted 2 years.

mikey mo
05-05-09, 03:45 PM
I think the show was done once Reese became pregnant. While I too enjoyed the final episode, there was just too much crammed into it. I won't dwell on examples.

SteveMSU
05-05-09, 04:29 PM
That sucks, but at least there was a quasi-ending rather then a ridiculous cliff-hanger. Charlie, despite the zen attitude, still had a piece of prison in him he'd never be able to get rid of. I don't really care about him and Reese ever getting together romantically. That never made sense to me anyway.

High_Def
05-05-09, 05:40 PM
Well there goes another show without an definite ending.

lax01
05-05-09, 06:10 PM
Strike 1 for NBC

rsambuca
05-05-09, 08:21 PM
Well there goes another show without an definite ending.

I always thought that the last episode felt a LOT like a series finale. They basically wrapped up everthing, didn't they?

gakon
05-05-09, 09:32 PM
Not everything, but a whole lot better (more definite) than Journeyman, or Threshold, or Seven Days, or any number of shows I've seen disappear (and even some that had planned endings, like The Sopranos).

rugby
05-05-09, 09:56 PM
Well this sucks, one less show to watch.

MeowMeow
05-05-09, 10:32 PM
On the bright side, I now don't have to watch NBC's obnoxiously chirpy promos in the middle of a dramatic show. You know, the ones that say something like "Login on to NBC.com to play fun games with pictures of this week's murder victims!"

Dear Gawd . . . it was horrific watching those.

But, now NBC better hope for some good Sunday Night Football games to get my eyes on their channel ever again.

I don't mean this out of spite. There just isn't anything besides Life I watch on NBC.

mikey mo
05-06-09, 02:29 AM
Strike 1 for NBC

Actually it is Strike 2. Dirty Sexy Money was Strike 1:mad:

Oh, Wait, that was ABC. But you get the idea.

Stewpidity
05-06-09, 08:19 AM
it is mind boggling to me that Chuck is still on and Life is off and Kings was kicked to the Summer

:confused:

rrainwater
05-06-09, 11:33 AM
it is mind boggling to me that Chuck is still on and Life is off and Kings was kicked to the Summer

:confused:

Chuck hasn't been renewed yet, but it has generated a lot more buzz than Life ever did. So if NBC was going to choose between the two, it would be a easy choice.

Distorted
05-06-09, 12:06 PM
Chuck hasn't been renewed yet, but it has generated a lot more buzz than Life ever did. So if NBC was going to choose between the two, it would be a easy choice.


For me, yes, Life was a clear winner and will be missed as much as the sadly mourned Journeyman mentioned above, while Chuck made me feel dirty the one time I stumbled across it and should suffer the same kind of ignominious death in pain that its victims suffer each week at the hands of its protangonist. May it rest in the writhing morally ambiguous death it deserves and for which it stands. Most series one either doesn't care when they die or one misses. Few you actively hate & despise and relish their demise. Chuck, to me is in the greatly reviled category.

High_Def
05-06-09, 01:07 PM
Chuck is 10x more exciting and fun then this show, I'm sorry!


This show Life suffered the Leno Effect!

vfxproducer
05-06-09, 01:28 PM
Most series one either doesn't care when they die or one misses. Few you actively hate & despise and relish their demise. Chuck, to me is in the greatly reviled category.

Wow. It's just TV. For me, that level of anger and resentment is reserved only for people like murderers and child molesters. And politicians. I can't say I've ever 'greatly reviled' a TV show. You need to lighten up. You'll live longer.

Chuck and Life were both in my top 3 shows to watch each week, and I liked them for different reasons. Life was great story telling with some particularly great acting performances from a good ensemble cast. Chuck is lighter, more accesible entertainment that appeals to a wider segment of my family. I think there is room for both shows. I'm glad that there is a chance that at least one will be coming back.

Don S
05-06-09, 02:20 PM
...while Chuck made me feel dirty the one time I stumbled across it ..... Chuck, to me is in the greatly reviled category.

So, you saw CHUCK once and now "greatly revile" it? OK .. TO each his own. CHUCK is tremendous entertainment. I like LIFE as well, but jeez ..

slowbiscuit
05-06-09, 02:24 PM
Chuck is an outstanding show, easily on par quality-wise with Life. Might not be everyone's cup of tea, but crappy show it ain't.

Sad to see Life cancelled, but with the pullback in S2 from most everything good in S1, I don't miss its demise all that much. Just hope that Mr. Lewis gets to exercise his acting chops in another quality show soon.

MeowMeow
05-06-09, 02:42 PM
Trolliciousness going here.

Not to be an ass, but whether or not you like Chuck has little bearing on Life's cancellation.

In fact, the more healthy expression of hatred would either be toward Leno or cost-cutting.

High_Def
05-06-09, 02:44 PM
Let's blame Leno!

Bluto17
05-07-09, 07:10 AM
No, to me, this one is entirely on the suits at NBC. They were the ones that decided to slam Leno into five hours of prime time every week. And, they were the ones responsible for the general decline of NBC primetime in the first place. Now, all their shows suffer - even their good ones.

rrainwater
05-07-09, 04:55 PM
Let's blame Leno!

The writers are to blame for season 2. The first half of season 2 was a complete mess and seemed like they used a team of writers would forgot the whole premise of the show.

gwsat
05-08-09, 08:45 AM
The writers are to blame for season 2. The first half of season 2 was a complete mess and seemed like they used a team of writers would forgot the whole premise of the show.
I agree. The episodes during the first half of the second season didn't have the kind of bite we saw in Season 1. The show improved toward the end of the second season but by then it was too late.

MeowMeow
05-08-09, 09:15 AM
The writers are to blame for season 2. The first half of season 2 was a complete mess and seemed like they used a team of writers would forgot the whole premise of the show.

A surprising portion of the writers from season 1 were hired away from the show.

Also, it's hard not to feel that S2 was retooled to be more of a proper procedural.

Stryker412
05-11-09, 12:26 PM
Fans of the show have started a campaign to bring the show to USA.

From the USAnetwork Twitter:

Fans of LIFE: we've received your tweets and have begun forwarding them all to "the powers that be". Your passion is quite impressive!

rrainwater
05-11-09, 01:18 PM
Fans of the show have started a campaign to bring the show to USA.

From the USAnetwork Twitter:

It would be interesting if it happened although probably unlikely. However, it would fit pretty good with the other quirky shows on USA like Psych and Monk.