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cocoon
09-30-08, 12:18 AM
A cautious thumbs up for the first episode of season 2. I think they should of waited at least 2 episodes before finding Rachel.

MeowMeow
09-30-08, 12:53 AM
A cautious thumbs up for the first episode of season 2. I think they should of waited at least 2 episodes before finding Rachel.

Agreed on both points. Actually, when compared to the 11 episodes of the first season, it can be argued this was the worst episode of the whole series.

Kinda mediocre. I guess Life has officially lost its police procedural virginity: they did a serial killer plot! Yay!

I was perplexed by the additional of Donal Logue to the cast. After one episode, I still don't get it. Not that the previous boss was particularly interesting, but this character is just loserish.

We'll see where the show goes.

replayrob
09-30-08, 11:40 AM
Actually, when compared to the 11 episodes of the first season, it can be argued this was the worst episode of the whole series.
+1
Wasn't thrilled by the season two opener either, but hopefully it's just rust buildup due to the long layoff after the WGA strike. FWIW- I gave the same review to the season two return of "Chuck" also. Hopefully, both shows get back on their feet quickly because there are high expectations for both shows to do well.

rdgrimes
09-30-08, 11:52 AM
I'm hoping the new Lt turns out to be a complete bad guy. He's just a bit too chummy to be anything else.

moob
09-30-08, 07:36 PM
It makes me really sad that this thread only had 3 replies, yet other, lesser shows have hundreds/thousands. =\

I'm with you guys in that they probably should have waited to find the girl, but I'm guessing they found her for a reason.

Still, it was a pretty good episode.

rdgrimes
09-30-08, 07:40 PM
I thought the kid who played the serial killer was WAY good. He creeped me out at the end.

keenan
09-30-08, 09:03 PM
I'm definitely still watching this show, it's one of my favorites. I was going to wait a few episodes before commenting though. The fact that they're burning through 4 eps in 2 weeks sort of concerns me.

jabbathespud
10-01-08, 12:23 AM
I thought the kid who played the serial killer was WAY good. He creeped me out at the end.

He was one of the kids on The Riches.

jaypb
10-01-08, 09:45 AM
For me, if Damien Lewis is in it....or on TV....I'm watching whatever show it is.

I find his portrayal of Crews, as quirky as it is, to be so damn funny/entertaining that I just have to keep watching.

The fact that the stories tend to move along a fairly quick pace and there's always SOMETHING going on that needs to be figured out (and not in the CSI Miami kind of way) *works* for me after a crappy day at work.

Lt. (Major) Dick Winters gets my attention if/when he's on screen....end of story. :D

lax01
10-01-08, 10:09 AM
I thought the episode was good...too bad they are shitcanning this show to a Friday night death slot...so much for 'Life'

drake21734
10-01-08, 11:50 AM
Wish they had left Life in it's previous time slot. It's to good of a show to stick on Friday.

DixonJDixon
10-01-08, 02:41 PM
I really like this show a lot but I can't figure out why.

keenan
10-01-08, 06:20 PM
I really like this show a lot but I can't figure out why.

I'll bet it's the interaction between Lewis and Shahi, for me, that's the best part of the show, those two are incredible together. Shahi is a far better actress than I had imagined. Didn't see too much of it in this opener, but last season it was great, hopefully that chemistry is retained this year

keenan
10-01-08, 06:22 PM
I thought the episode was good...too bad they are shitcanning this show to a Friday night death slot...so much for 'Life'

Yes, and the fact they're going through 4 eps so quickly...it's as if a decision has already been made. :(

HDMe2
10-01-08, 07:23 PM
Yes, and the fact they're going through 4 eps so quickly...it's as if a decision has already been made. :(

Only possible "out" for this would be IF these were some episodes that they held over from last season due to the strike.

Some shows cut and ran with short seasons... At least one that I watch (Smallville) came back and made a few more shows to go 20 eps last season. The other alternative could be IF Life had made a few more and just held them over to start with this season.

I don't know that it is the case... but that's the only good-news scenario to me. Otherwise I agree burning off 4 episodes in 2 weeks is not a good sign if they plan on going the whole season.

moob
10-01-08, 08:58 PM
Well, Life isn't the only show that does that though.

There have been two new episodes of It's Always Sunny each week so far, and it's the same this week (I have no idea if it's going to be like that the whole season? If it is, it'll be a short season). And I'm pretty sure 24 has done that where they have 2 new episodes a week for a couple weeks.

On the other hand, they are moving it to Friday, so who knows...

I mean, this is the network that canceled Journeyman, yet picked up Knight Rider, so anything is possible.

And add me to the list that loves the chemistry between Winters and Shahi.

lax01
10-01-08, 09:14 PM
And add me to the list that loves the chemistry between Winters and Shahi.

While Crews and Reese do have a great relationship, I also enjoy the relationship between Crews and Earley...its equally as good. The ensemble cast is really strong...I think thats what makes the show so good.

replayrob
10-02-08, 10:54 AM
I mean, this is the network that canceled Journeyman, yet picked up Knight Rider, so anything is possible.
Ugggggg... thanks for reminding us :(
... and look at how they canceled (a cliffhanger ending of all things) Las Vegas.

MeowMeow
10-02-08, 11:54 AM
I think a few people took the early comments as negative.

Just to clarify, no. I do still say this is the worst episode of life to date. But, that says volumes about the show that the high end of mediocre is the worst it can do.

I love the show. I question casting Donal Logue, an actor I love still from when he did Grounded for Life. But, obviously for the conspiracy story to be consistent, the old LT had to go: she failed to railroad Crews right out of the department.

Life does have a lot of good writing to live up to. Also, they lost about half their writers in the off-season due to a variety of, by all accounts, good opportunities for the lost writers.

As for the Friday night death slot... Numbers has survived in that slot forever. And Numbers is waaay past jumping the shark. While I like both shows, Life is a must. Numbers is kinda OK sometimes and is increasingly unwatchable.

I think Life has the potential to steal a lot of the audience for Numbers.

barth2k
10-02-08, 02:24 PM
I thought the kid who played the serial killer was WAY good. He creeped me out at the end.

I knew he was the killer right away as I've seen him on the Riches and elsewhere and yes he's good.

jaypb
10-02-08, 02:41 PM
I knew he was the killer right away as I've seen him on the Riches and elsewhere and yes he's good.

Everytime I saw him pop up on the screen I kept thinking of Toby from "The Office".....

I smell a spin off.... :D

VisionOn
10-03-08, 03:18 AM
This episode was supposed to be a reshoot of sorts of the pilot according to early soundbites. To draw in new viewers.

It barely made sense to me and I saw last season.

I couldn't remember exactly how the conspiracy closed up apart from the applause and the walk through the station, and I barely remembered who the girl was. I still can't remember why she was hiding and the ending was dropped in there like something that they ran out of time including at the end of the season one finale. How they expected new viewers to pick up on that stuff I don't know. Maybe that's why they wrapped it in such a conventional plot. Yay, weird serial killer. :rolleyes:

The video interview scenes felt out of place as well because they didn't use them to open the show and too infrequently during it. In the first season they narrated his back story. In this episode they didn't really have time to explain anything.

I don't think Charlie was given room to move either. His observations and pearls of wisdom are what made the first season and there were too few instances of that. The ice cream truck, the bathroom and the team up with Adam Arkin were pretty great though.

Donal Logue was perfect in Knights of Prosperity but I can't buy him in this role and his haircut just makes it appear he's trying too hard to look like a tough guy.

Most of this episode I was actually thinking about how Sarah Shahi walks around her house naked all the time according to a TV guide interview. :D

keenan
10-03-08, 04:19 AM
Most of this episode I was actually thinking about how Sarah Shahi walks around her house naked all the time according to a TV guide interview. :D

Dude! No way! Really? (where does she live? :eek::p )

Seriously though, she's an exceptionally beautiful woman and has the acting chops to go with it. :)

replayrob
10-03-08, 09:59 AM
Seriously though, she's an exceptionally beautiful woman and has the acting chops to go with it. :)
You'll like this photo of Sarah Shahi and her attributes :D ...
http://lax.war3.com/AWOT/BOTY2k7/sarahshahi25vq.gif

VisionOn
10-03-08, 10:11 AM
Dude! No way! Really? (where does she live? :eek::p )

Yes, Shahi's fiance apparently gets annoyed with her, because she always leaves the windows open when she does it. I assume the curtains as well.

Haven't found her address, yet. ;)

rrainwater
10-03-08, 04:38 PM
I was hooked on this show in the shortened season 1. I do think they rushed through too many of the story lines though. I wasn't too impressed with the first episode of season 2. It didn't seem to have any direction. It almost seemed like they chopped together several shows into one with no cohesive story line. Hopefully they can turn things around but it isn't looking good.

lax01
10-03-08, 11:50 PM
Anybody elses feed break up for over half the show? Completely missed 20-25 minutes of it...almost all of the end...now I need to download it

FSugino
10-04-08, 12:05 AM
Anybody elses feed break up for over half the show? Completely missed 20-25 minutes of it...almost all of the end...now I need to download it

Must be a local issue - the episode was fine here in Chicago.

qz3fwd
10-04-08, 12:25 AM
Anybody elses feed break up for over half the show? Completely missed 20-25 minutes of it...almost all of the end...now I need to download it
Fine in Detroit.
Just edited all the commrcials out of the transport stream.

jebbbz
10-04-08, 12:35 AM
In Phoenix there were a couple of patches of bad break-up, the first only a few seconds, the lateer abbout 15 to 20 or so (closed captions cam ethrough OK so I didn't miss the dialog). This was true with both cable and OTA so I assumed it was the local NBC feed.

(Shallow though it may be of me, I started watching this only because of Sarah Shahi. I hadn't seen her or Lewis in anything else and figured she was there as eye candy but I think she really holds her own with the other actors. And she is eye candy, too, but I swear, sometimes watching her face change expressions as Charlie starts off on his Zen stuff I forget she is so good looking. Now that is acting.)

keenan
10-04-08, 02:27 AM
Only one brief glitch here in the SF bay area via Comcast.

BTW, all of last season I was trying to remember where I know the actress who plays Charlie's ex-wife(Jennifer Siebel) from...well, my local NBC news answered the question tonight, she's the First Lady of San Francisco, the wife of Mayor Gavin Newsome. :D

VisionOn
10-06-08, 02:18 AM
I'm not too happy with the direction of this season so far. They seemed to have made the show more conventional to appeal to casual viewers.

Last season the lives of Charlie and Dani were more up front and central. This season the show is concentrating largely on the cases and ignoring her personal issues and Charlie's new found wealth. Charlie seems to have been toned down as well. Less of his Zen wisdom, and contentment and gratification with his renewed "life." If you haven't seen the first season you wouldn't even know he'd been in prison for 12 years or that he was extremely wealthy.

The video clips look out of place this season too. We had one in the latest episode. It just looks superfluous when they barely use them. As does Adam Arkin. Was it worth him turning up for for work in the last episode?

cocoon
10-06-08, 03:17 AM
It just looks superfluous when they barely use them. As does Adam Arkin. Was it worth him turning up for for work in the last episode?

I really hope they are building to something. I thought this episode was an improvement over the first episode of the season for whats its worth. I agree it is toned down ABC did the same to Pushing Daisies unfortunately.

lax01
10-06-08, 09:41 AM
Well now that its going to be on Friday only, the producers/writers can probably do whatever they want with the show since nobody from the network will be paying any attention...I agree that too little of the story is revolving around the characters....they are only briefly touching on the whole conspiracy that setup Charlie last season...still a good show though and entertaining

replayrob
10-06-08, 10:43 AM
I'm not too happy with the direction of this season so far. They seemed to have made the show more conventional to appeal to casual viewers.

Last season the lives of Charlie and Dani were more up front and central. This season the show is concentrating largely on the cases and ignoring her personal issues and Charlie's new found wealth. Charlie seems to have been toned down as well. Less of his Zen wisdom, and contentment and gratification with his renewed "life."
Agree with your assessment of the new season pretty much 100%.

The things that made Life special last year have been virtually ignored this season so far. I really don't care much about the crime of the week, but I'm very intersted in Charlies back story and the whole setup/conspiracy that put him in the pen for 12 years. I also very much enjoyed Charlies Zen rantings and his new found love of life/freedom.
If I was rating this years episodes, episode one gets a 3 out of 10, episode two gets 4 out of 10. In contrast, last years episodes were 8's, 9's or better.

rrainwater
10-06-08, 11:26 AM
It's turned into just a regular cop show in the first two episodes this season. Crews hasn't really used the fact that he was in prison for 12 years to gain insight into any of the cases. In fact, other than a few quick mentions of it, you hardly even know it happened. Why they dropped the foundation of the storyline for the show is beyond me.

MeowMeow
10-06-08, 12:19 PM
Why they dropped the foundation of the storyline for the show is beyond me.

Because there is a law in Hollywood that anything innovative should be squelched.

Actually, it's more of a law of diminishing returns. Life lost half of its writing staff this off-season as they went on to bigger and better things. So, half of the talent that made last season great is now gone.

I don't think the show's been deliberately toned down. I think it is the case that the new writers just aren't as good.

Way to kill a must show. About one more bad episode and I'm going back to watching Numbers on Friday night.

philw1776
10-06-08, 02:49 PM
I loved this episode. Gotta go find me a shrink like the tall redhead in the episode.

lax01
10-06-08, 11:25 PM
Any complaints about getting back to Crews and Reese? Great episode...funny, fun, entertaining...just a great episode. Its a terrible shame that NBC doesn't realize the caliber of show they have...instead My Own Worst Enemy (that looks like it might last 2-3 episodes and lets face it, Christian Slater < Damian Lewis...

Goodbye Life, we shall miss you...another great show doomed to cancellation by a moronic country that loves ****** Television...

MeowMeow
10-07-08, 12:38 AM
Third episode was decent. The show needs to get back to the Zen/prison theme. Right now Charlie's just being weird for weird's sake.

Also, the procedural element where they look at the board with all the pics on it is officially obnoxious. I know they want to dumb the show down for the CSI crowd, but this newfound desire to show the board every week is repetitive and pointless.

But, for the first time I kinda liked Donal Logue's character. He pointed out a basic truth of real world crime: suspect the people closest until there is reason to not suspect them. It was a brief moment of clarity in TV police procedurals.

If developed right, Logue and Lewis could make an intriguing point-counterpoint. You would have Logue's straight-on, literal view of the world bouncing off Lewis' wishy-washy Zen. That would be interesting, and also a tiny bit meta-Buddhist (yin / yang).

Still, considering this is a show I've fought hard to get people to watch, this season after three episodes is a letdown. Not a disaster, but I'd really like to see something superhip, like their dead angel episode from last season.

vinnie97
10-07-08, 12:39 AM
I've got news for you, moronic TV like American Idol is a worldwide sensation and that whole show concept actually began in a foreign country.

drsimnal
10-07-08, 11:29 AM
Man, I think that they may have jumped the shark with last night's ep. Granted, as a physician I am skeptical of most stuff on TV that tries to be medical, but that was ridiculous. There is NO way anyone could be frozen like that by inhaling liquid nitrogen. As soon as he turned on the tank, he would have noticed it was not oxygen. You can die of inhaling pure nitrogen, since there is no oxygen present, but it wouldn't freeze you. And, just touching him even if he had been somehow dipped into a vat of liquid nitrogen to freeze him would not cause him to break up like that; you'd have to really smash him.

Then there's the whole issue of a father taking a medication and giving it to his son for a CANCER treatment without supervision...totally ridiculous. Even if they were penniless illegal aliens (which they did not appear to be) they can get their sick kid covered for treatment. And chemo regimens are not just daily; they vary depending on the stage of the cancer, what his white count is, etc. I mean, a lot goes into it. You don't just find stuff off the shelf and surreptitiously give it to the kid. They better not touch any more medical stuff this season; this was enought to make me tune out, LOL.

lax01
10-07-08, 12:48 PM
Man, I think that they may have jumped the shark with last night's ep. Granted, as a physician I am skeptical of most stuff on TV that tries to be medical, but that was ridiculous. There is NO way anyone could be frozen like that by inhaling liquid nitrogen. As soon as he turned on the tank, he would have noticed it was not oxygen. You can die of inhaling pure nitrogen, since there is no oxygen present, but it wouldn't freeze you. And, just touching him even if he had been somehow dipped into a vat of liquid nitrogen to freeze him would not cause him to break up like that; you'd have to really smash him.

Then there's the whole issue of a father taking a medication and giving it to his son for a CANCER treatment without supervision...totally ridiculous. Even if they were penniless illegal aliens (which they did not appear to be) they can get their sick kid covered for treatment. And chemo regimens are not just daily; they vary depending on the stage of the cancer, what his white count is, etc. I mean, a lot goes into it. You don't just find stuff off the shelf and surreptitiously give it to the kid. They better not touch any more medical stuff this season; this was enought to make me tune out, LOL.

But didn't it still make you laugh when Charlie "broke" the good doctor...his reaction was priceless...hahah

And unless I missed something...didn't they say that the immigrant family was working with a doctor? I dunno...but yeah, the premise was pretty far fetched

mikey mo
10-07-08, 09:41 PM
I'm getting into the second season of this show, and it seems rather obvious that it would be more enjoyable if I had seen Season One. The first two dvd discs have been shipped by Netflix. If I spend all that time on the first season, they better not suddenly cancel this second season.:mad:

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
10-07-08, 09:54 PM
This show seems like it will get canceled soon.

da_burl
10-08-08, 06:55 AM
Man, I think that they may have jumped the shark with last night's ep. Granted, as a physician I am skeptical of most stuff on TV that tries to be medical, but that was ridiculous. There is NO way anyone could be frozen like that by inhaling liquid nitrogen. As soon as he turned on the tank, he would have noticed it was not oxygen. You can die of inhaling pure nitrogen, since there is no oxygen present, but it wouldn't freeze you. And, just touching him even if he had been somehow dipped into a vat of liquid nitrogen to freeze him would not cause him to break up like that; you'd have to really smash him.

Then there's the whole issue of a father taking a medication and giving it to his son for a CANCER treatment without supervision...totally ridiculous. Even if they were penniless illegal aliens (which they did not appear to be) they can get their sick kid covered for treatment. And chemo regimens are not just daily; they vary depending on the stage of the cancer, what his white count is, etc. I mean, a lot goes into it. You don't just find stuff off the shelf and surreptitiously give it to the kid. They better not touch any more medical stuff this season; this was enought to make me tune out, LOL.

Agree with all that and would add the spilled "poison" that created "hallucinations" was pretty unrealistic as well. I know this because I lived through the seventies :eek:
I still enjoy this show but this Monday's show was pretty weak, except for the conspiracy part, I enjoyed the confrontation between Detective Reese and her father, and the meeting between the senior Reese and the other member of the conspiracy six now five.

cliffg
10-08-08, 08:40 PM
I like the new police chief - I think he makes a good counterpart to Crews and Reese. The first few minutes in the first episode of the second season I was going "huh?", but by the second episode the character made more sense (I haven't watched the third episode yet).

While I really like the actress that played the chief from last season (she made a great Calamity Jane in Deadwood), it just didn't seem all that good a fit with the show, to me.

Anyway, this one will remain at the top of the priority list, unless they really do something crazy.

Cliff

joenobody33
10-08-08, 11:49 PM
I'm really enjoying the new season so far, but it being NBC you have that feeling it will be canceled soon. You know they don't have the greatest confidence in a show when they move it to Friday night. The only thing it has going for it is that NBC Universal makes the show.

spyder696969
10-09-08, 12:04 PM
More conspiracy. Less everything else. :(

HDTVChallenged
10-09-08, 12:42 PM
Ya got to admit that the "crumbling victim" scene was funny ... even though you'd probably have to dip somebody in a vat of liquid nitrogen to get that result.

rrainwater
10-09-08, 12:54 PM
Ya got to admit that the "crumbling victim" scene was funny ... even though you'd probably have to dip somebody in a vat of liquid nitrogen to get that result.

It may have been funny but it pretty much ruined the rest of the show for me because it wasn't even possible. I wasn't aware this was a SciFi show. Anyways, I'm guessing this show is going to get the axe soon with the horrible writing in the first 3 shows. I can't imagine them keeping it around much longer. It seems as if they are trying to kill the show.

lax01
10-11-08, 12:25 AM
I don't really care if the show is turning procedural...I still love it. Great episode tonight...

Good to see Old Calamity Jane back in the action...I wonder if she will be reoccurring...

*waits for it to be canceled*

cocoon
10-11-08, 04:37 AM
I don't really care if the show is turning procedural...I still love it. Great episode tonight...

Good to see Old Calamity Jane back in the action...I wonder if she will be reoccurring...

*waits for it to be canceled*

That's what I was thinking as well :(

drake21734
10-11-08, 01:41 PM
Still loving this show. I really hope it sticks around. Wish it weren't on Fridays though.

NYY860
10-11-08, 11:49 PM
I missed the first and 2nd episodes i believe. Been watching the last 3 and I really like it. Deff a DVR show since Numbers is on at the same time.

mikey mo
10-12-08, 09:24 PM
I went through with my plans to rent the first season and viewed all three discs. I must say that the 480p and 5.1 were excellent. No skipping commercials and no on screen icons. Many questions were answered, of course. The narration by the (I believe) executive producer was enlightening. Not a bad way to watch a series. On balance, I have to say this is the best way to watch a series, the only downside being no 1080i.

I still don't get the connection between Charlie and the murdered family.

HDMe2
10-12-08, 09:47 PM
I went through with my plans to rent the first season and viewed all three discs. I must say that the 480p and 5.1 were excellent. No skipping commercials and no on screen icons. Many questions were answered, of course. The narration by the (I believe) executive producer was enlightening. Not a bad way to watch a series. On balance, I have to say this is the best way to watch a series, the only downside being no 1080i.

I still don't get the connection between Charlie and the murdered family.

It's been a while, and I haven't bought the DVD yet hoping to see a Blu ray release sometime in the near future... but if I'm remembering correctly I thought he and the father of the murdered family were business partners or something in a failing (or failed) venture... and they were originally using that and financial loss as motive for arresting Charlie in the first place for the crime he didn't commit.

I believe they were longtime friends, perhaps grew up together even, because they've made points of mentioning that the "missing" daughter was known to them since birth practically like god-parents (maybe even god-parents but I can't remember).

tkmedia2
10-13-08, 12:49 AM
This seasons B story has not been given enough time, but that don't seem to unusual to me. Even the first season had variable amounts of time dedicated to the B story. Most of the was that the first season feature many flashback clips, and interview footage, that are not found that much in the second season.

I found it odd that Charlie was able to adapt so quickly to "new" technology in the second season with the recording device and computers. As in the first season he seems quite frustrated with technology in general.

VisionOn
10-13-08, 01:27 AM
So I guess Charlie's love affair with peace and zen is over. No zen wisdom tonight and if what he said in the first episode about "Violence against one is violence against all. And if violence is against all then I am being violent against myself" - then tonight he almost beat himself up about three times.

All the love of life he had in the first season is now turning into just making him a cop with a short fuse and some witty responses. You can't even tell his partner was a serious addict last season.

And I can't believe it took them all episode to figure out that "It is five, it used to be six, it could just as easily be four." was the number of conspirators and the old guy was threatening to whack Rees. Come on that was blatantly obvious last episode. It was so obvious last episode I was trying to figure out why Charlie was analyzing the recording again and again. I thought he was flexing his detective genius and hearing something amazingly subtle that the audience missed.

At least this episode they used his time in prison to useful effect and gave Adam Arkin something to do. And they brought back the room to indicate the new arc was just beginning.

COVERkreator
10-14-08, 01:07 AM
Earlier in the season. I was surprised that Charlie was confused with the washroom sinks. I recall that a lot of those sinks started being installed in the late 1980's early 1990s. I used to help install those in government buildings, schools, parks, public areas about that time.

replayrob
10-14-08, 09:50 AM
I still don't get the connection between Charlie and the murdered family.
They were business partners in a bar. It turns out that unbeknown to Crews- the bar/business partner was laundering money from the Bank of LA robbery that involves his current partners father.

replayrob
10-14-08, 09:50 AM
more conspiracy. Less everything else. :(
+1
Good to see "the room" make a comeback! Finally feels like we're getting back on track...

replayrob
10-14-08, 09:55 AM
Fourth episode "Not for Nothing" was better.
Liked where Crews showed a little compassion for the kid who killed the "guard" telling him "the first three years will be the hardest... even though your there- you don't have to be there" some good old Charlie Crews Zen :D

gwsat
10-14-08, 11:47 AM
Fourth episode "Not for Nothing" was better.
Liked where Crews showed a little compassion for the kid who killed the "guard" telling him "the first three years will be the hardest... even though your there- you don't have to be there" some good old Charlie Crews Zen :D
This week's episode was excellent. I really like it when Damian Lewis as Crews goes into his zoned out counterculture persona. I was also pleased to see Robin Weigert appear again. I had been afraid she might be gone after her character, Lieutenant Karen Davis, got supplanted as commander of the detective squad. Weigert is a terrific actress, whose work I came to appreciate as a result of her wonderful performances as Calamity Jane in the late, lamented Deadwood.

rsambuca
10-17-08, 01:29 PM
With all the shows we are watching, this one was right on the bubble for my wife and I. The last episode saved it for us. It felt a lot more like the original show from last year, rather than the fluffy typical procedural from the first 3 episodes of this season. Much better! I hope they keep it up.

tkmedia2
10-18-08, 12:26 PM
It's getting better!:D

eddy_winds
10-18-08, 12:47 PM
+1

keenan
10-18-08, 02:27 PM
Anyone notice the movie poster behind the producer guy's desk? I'm 99% certain it was Crews and Reese in the photo. :D

I didn't record it on the PC so I can't post a screen shot, but maybe someone else has one?

rdgrimes
10-18-08, 05:01 PM
Anyone notice the movie poster behind the producer guy's desk? I'm 99% certain it was Crews and Reese in the photo. :D

I didn't record it on the PC so I can't post a screen shot, but maybe someone else has one?

There was one shot of Crews looking at the poster and imagining himself in the photo. The rest of the time it was the regular poster.

keenan
10-18-08, 05:21 PM
There was one shot of Crews looking at the poster and imagining himself in the photo. The rest of the time it was the regular poster.

Was it? I could have sworn it was them the whole time, the first time it was shown it looked like it was and that's what prompted me to take a paused look at it. I'll take your word for it though as I've already deleted the recording. :)

moob
10-18-08, 07:25 PM
I just checked it on hulu...it doesn't look like Winters, but it's kinda hard to tell.

I did lol when they first went to see the tennis player. It looked like she was spraying balls all over the place...I'd be surprised if the actress had picked up a racket before that day. :p

tkmedia2
10-19-08, 01:20 AM
I wonder if Hillary Tuck gonna be in any more episodes.

replayrob
10-20-08, 11:58 AM
It's getting better!:D
Yup!
Seems like they're starting to shake off the rust from the long layoff :D
I wish Crews didn't get interrupted when it looked like the was about to confront Reese about her father... oh well, another time perhaps?

VisionOn
10-20-08, 07:37 PM
I don't think it's any better now than it was last week. I think based on the amount of TV that's currently on I've got about two episodes of Life left in me.

As much as I like watching Damian Lewis and seeing Sarah Shahi fill out tight jeans, the show isn't worthy of it's moniker any more. It's not about Charlie's life or his love of second chance at life, it's just a cop show with a less quirky detective than before and a vague conspiracy.

Adam Arkin is being completely wasted in subplots that are disconnected, but they do at least show his attempt at readjusting to the world. Charlie now fits in perfectly as if he's just another cop. No zen wisdom at all, no love of "life", nothing carried over from last season apart from the girl and a couple of light scenes with his ex-wife. His relationship with his lawyer is forgotten, the video interviews look like they've been dumped, the cops all accept him as if nothing happened, his partner is completely untroubled by her demons ... there's no tension or personal drama now.

This week ended with totally pointless scenes of Charlie zooming around completely empty highways in LA (!) in his Mas. The segue from the mother saying she was old to cuts of his car zooming around and Charlie's expressionless face added nothing to the ending. Normally I would say it was just product placement but you can't really sell a Maserati mass market.

This show needs to get back to "Life" otherwise it's just one more tale about "Cops."

keenan
10-20-08, 07:56 PM
Still like the show, but agree with much of the above, it doesn't have that "special" ingredient it had last season. I do look forward to those moments between Crews and Reese where she rolls her eyes about what he's doing or says, or he catches her in a paradoxical discussion , but those are becoming fewer and fewer.

VisionOn
10-20-08, 08:20 PM
Still like the show, but agree with much of the above, it doesn't have that "special" ingredient it had last season. I do look forward to those moments between Crews and Reese where she rolls her eyes about what he's doing or says, or he catches her in a paradoxical discussion , but those are becoming fewer and fewer.

Yeah, their dynamic is fairly standard cop partner material now. The one part this week which brought back memories of the old odd couple relationship was when Charlie walked into the producer's office, stood there ignoring him and then walked straight out to leave Rees to say "he does that."

moob
10-20-08, 08:26 PM
This week ended with totally pointless scenes of Charlie zooming around completely empty highways in LA (!) in his Mas. The segue from the mother saying she was old to cuts of his car zooming around and Charlie's expressionless face added nothing to the ending.

That ending had me scratching my head as well. It was completely out of place and meant nothing.

keenan
10-20-08, 08:42 PM
Yeah, their dynamic is fairly standard cop partner material now. The one part this week which brought back memories of the old odd couple relationship was when Charlie walked into the producer's office, stood there ignoring him and then walked straight out to leave Rees to say "he does that."

Yup, that was great! :D

Exist2Inspire
10-21-08, 12:53 AM
I am totally agreeing with what everyone says. The first season was all about Crew's getting a second chance at life, discovering Zen and his passion for fruit. If you never saw the first season, you'd just think it was another buddy cop show.

It's a real shame that this show has gone down hill. I tend to watch repeats of it, and never watch the original broadcasts, because I don't have the desire to see it. Last year it was like, stop what I was doing and go watch Life.

jebbbz
10-21-08, 02:23 AM
Anyone notice the movie poster behind the producer guy's desk? I'm 99% certain it was Crews and Reese in the photo. :D

I didn't record it on the PC so I can't post a screen shot, but maybe someone else has one?


I checked the scenes where the poster was in the picture and while the two models fairly suggestive of Crews and Reese (hair color and some facial features) they are not Crews and Reese, even in the scene where Crews focuses on the poster prior to returning to the on-campus house to retrieve the photo of the daughter. Crews's ear lobe is distinct and hangs down whereas the male model's lobe is non-existent -- the outside of his ear simply slants down to the side of his head. Jaw line and chin are different, too. And the female model has a somewhat squarer face than Reese.

(I haven't posted here much -- are there approved image hosting sites for this forum? If people want to do their own comparison I could post an image from the two music office scenes.)

keenan
10-21-08, 02:42 AM
I use ImageShack, there's PhotoBucket, there's quite a few out there.

http://www.imageshack.us/

jebbbz
10-21-08, 03:15 AM
Bear with me...

(First visit)

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(Second visit)

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6130/2ndvisityr6.jpg

rsambuca
10-24-08, 09:18 PM
Looks like Life is moving to Wednesday, sandwiched between Knight Rider and an early returning Law & Order in November (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20081024nbc01). Lipstick Jungle is moving to death row on Fridays.

moob
10-24-08, 10:28 PM
Wow. Way too many time/day changes already this season. Hopefully people follow the show wherever it goes, but I'm guessing they'll lose viewers.

jabbathespud
10-25-08, 02:15 AM
Wednesday at 9pm is a dead zone so I'm happy with the move.

spyder696969
10-25-08, 08:46 AM
After this past episode it's almost as though the writers were members here at AVS and finally brought back the look and feel of Season 1. :)

gwsat
10-25-08, 10:08 AM
Maybe it's just me but I HATED this week's episode! The scene where Crews (1) willingly shoots up his own car and (2) let the bad guy, Tims, and his accomplice escape had me looking for a wastebasket to throw up in. Why couldn't Crews have simply shot out a couple of his tires? That would have been more effective at disabling the car that putting bullets through glass and sheet metal, it seems to me. The scene in the armored car company manager's house was almost, although not, quite as bad as the other one. What next, sharks jumping water skiers? I am on the verge of being through with this show, despite my admiration for most of its cast. Nevertheless, the guy who played Tims was awful, I thought.

One positive was the scene between Ted (Adam Arkin) and the scrumptious redhead, Christina Hendricks, in which they get drunk and she pulls out the pencil that was impaling his hand. That scene had a nice combination of humor, sadness, and weirdness. I also liked the captain this week. He is still a doofus but he is a brave and loyal doofus. :) Still, there are going to have to be many more scenes that good and many fewer as bad as the last two with Tims to convince me to stick around.

spyder696969
10-25-08, 12:18 PM
Hmm. :confused:

I, for one, loved the car-killing scene. The car served as a perfect tangible of the dichotomy that Cruz faces daily in his adjustment and transition from "zen prisoner" that can control and affect nothing but himself to "real-world cop" begrudgingly in charge of so much more. Where our hero grimaces while putting reluctantly misplaced bullet holes in what is supposed to be "just a car," our heroine turns and blasts more than a few rounds out with cold, tactical precision. In the end, it even appeared that she was closing in on a dissociative and projected sense of satisfaction in the final few shots.

That kind of thoughtful and compative analogy, so brilliantly engineered by a parallel juxtaposition of both animate and inanimate objects is hard to come by in any TV show...or even in Life in general. :)

gwsat
10-25-08, 06:16 PM
I confess, I don't get it, it was way too zen for me. I don't know nothin' 'bout no steenkin "parallel juxtaposition of both animate and inanimate objects." :)

keenan
10-25-08, 06:24 PM
Hmm. :confused:

I, for one, loved the car-killing scene. The car served as a perfect tangible of the dichotomy that Cruz faces daily in his adjustment and transition from "zen prisoner" that can control and affect nothing but himself to "real-world cop" begrudgingly in charge of so much more. Where our hero grimaces while putting reluctantly misplaced bullet holes in what is supposed to be "just a car," our heroine turns and blasts more than a few rounds out with cold, tactical precision. In the end, it even appeared that she was closing in on a dissociative and projected sense of satisfaction in the final few shots.

That kind of thoughtful and compative analogy, so brilliantly engineered by a parallel juxtaposition of both animate and inanimate objects is hard to come by in any TV show...or even in Life in general. :)

I thought so too, one of the best scenes in the whole series and goes along with the whole "did you feel that?" theme of the episode.

MeowMeow
10-26-08, 02:06 AM
I thought the last episode was plain awful. Seriously, there isn't a single alternate universe in existence where Donal Logue gets a shot at Sarah Shahi.

As I try to justify continuing to watch the show, I realized something.

Season 2 of Life is starting to feel like S2 of Jericho. You have an immensely loved show and we as fans are trying way too hard to look past the basic fact that the writers are roundly failing us.

Life is getting to the point of being inexcusably bad.

gwsat
10-26-08, 07:59 AM
As much as I disliked much of last night's episode, I thought the captain (Donal Logue) kissing Dara (Sara Shahi) made some sense in the context of the scene. After all, they were on an upper floor of a building and had just survived a big tremor that for all they knew might have ended up being the Big One. Funny things happen with you are scared and those two kissing was funny. :)

spyder696969
10-26-08, 11:43 AM
Has anyone taken a stroll in public recently? There are many instances where you'll see couples where one person is FAR more physically attractive than the other. If people never mated up or down the scale, Sarah Jessica Parker would have to travel to another galaxy to find equal ugliness. :confused: Besides, let's not forget that Reese used to be/still is a sex addict. I doubt Captain Tidwell would be the worst thing she's come into contact with. Pair that with her "daddy issues" and I see this going somewhere. Personally, I like their cat and mouse game. :)

gparris
10-26-08, 01:20 PM
The only thing I couldn't stand was the killing the car scene, sorta fast forwarded on that one, just thought it was a waste of a fine auto.
Otherwise, I really liked the episode and will clear my DVR for more of it if it conflicts with anything else on its new timeslot.

HDTVChallenged
10-26-08, 01:36 PM
The only thing I couldn't stand was the killing the car scene, sorta fast forwarded on that one, just thought it was a waste of a fine auto.

Somehow, I get the feeling that this (killing the car) is going to be a running gag. "I am not attached to this car .... I am not attached to this car ..."

tkmedia2
10-26-08, 02:52 PM
So is this his 4th car we've seen get destroyed?

First with the Bent at the orange grove, destroyed with tractor. in the pilot.
Grand National. saw at a garage. that was given away. in season final.
Cadillac Eldoraldo? bought in the season 1 final. destroyed in same episode.
Mesarati GT, shot up.

HDMe2
10-26-08, 08:32 PM
He should probably stop using his personal vehicle for police business... make the department issue him a company car!

MeowMeow
10-26-08, 10:28 PM
I doubt Captain Tidwell would be the worst thing she's come into contact with. Pair that with her "daddy issues" and I see this going somewhere. Personally, I like their cat and mouse game. :)

I was hoping someone would go for the telenovella explanation. You know how on Univision there's always some show with an extremely hot 20 y.o. falling for some fat, fugly 55 y.o. businessman.

I don't know. My complaint isn't just with Reese and the Capt.

For example, they have barely moved the ball at all on the larger conspiracy. One of the things I liked last season was that the big plot and the small plot co-existed very nicely. Now the the show is almost all small, single-episode plot and nothing else.

replayrob
10-27-08, 01:03 PM
I was hoping someone would go for the telenovella explanation. You know how on Univision there's always some show with an extremely hot 20 y.o. falling for some fat, fugly 55 y.o. businessman.
Must be an international thing... My wife watches a lot of Greek programming via Dishnet & DTV.... it's the same there- we used to say "he's old enough to be her father", but on the Greek programs I say (in addition to other things :D) "he's old enough to be her Grandfather".

spyder696969
10-27-08, 03:57 PM
I was hoping someone would go for the telenovella explanation. You know how on Univision there's always some show with an extremely hot 20 y.o. falling for some fat, fugly 55 y.o. businessman.

I don't know. My complaint isn't just with Reese and the Capt.

For example, they have barely moved the ball at all on the larger conspiracy. One of the things I liked last season was that the big plot and the small plot co-existed very nicely. Now the the show is almost all small, single-episode plot and nothing else.

I won't disagree with you on the latter half of your post. However, Tidwell, regardless of whatever they do with him for the remainder of Season 2, has already served more purpose and been much more entertaining than the female Captain from Season 1. She was beyond worthless, serving as no more than a broken record, continually badgering Reese: "How's Crews? Is he a good cop? Or is he dirty? Did he spit on an old lady? Does he have a hangnail? How's his morning breath? Blah, blah, blah"..again, and again, and again. That got as stale as Sarah Silverman's so-called "comedy" by the second episode. :(

FOPA
10-27-08, 04:20 PM
Dude! No way! Really? (where does she live? :eek::p )

Seriously though, she's an exceptionally beautiful woman and has the acting chops to go with it. :)

Rather than risk getting caught peeking through windows, check out season 3 of the L-Word. She portrayed Carmen de la Pica Morales who had some pretty steamy scenes with among others our little parachute girl from season 1 of 24. You get some awesome views of her throughout the shows history, as well.

gwsat
10-27-08, 05:06 PM
If people never mated up or down the scale, Sarah Jessica Parker would have to travel to another galaxy to find equal ugliness. :confused:
Apostasy! I think that Parker is a sexy little rat. She’s small and skinny but she has style, a cat like grace, and sex appeal, to me at least. Better yet, she’s funny.

Tidwell, regardless of whatever they do with him for the remainder of Season 2, has already served more purpose and been much more entertaining than the female Captain from Season 1. She was beyond worthless, serving as no more than a broken record, continually badgering Reese: "How's Crews? Is he a good cop? Or is he dirty? Did he spit on an old lady? Does he have a hangnail? How's his morning breath? Blah, blah, blah"..again, and again, and again. That got as stale as Sarah Silverman's so-called "comedy" by the second episode. :(
I liked Robin Weigert as Crew’s grouchy boss in Season One but, I confess, my opinion may have been unduly influenced by my high regard for Weigert’s acting talent. I thought she was a useful foil for the still paranoid Crews back then. I agree, though, that her character’s own paranoia could become wearing. I also agree that Sarah Silverman is about as entertaining as hemorrhoid surgery.

HDMe2
10-27-08, 08:14 PM
I also agree that Sarah Silverman is about as entertaining as hemorrhoid surgery.

But what about watching Sarah Silverman undergo hemorrhoid surgery? ;)

NetworkTV
10-27-08, 10:37 PM
"If only we had a really big book that listed everyone's names, addresses and phone numbers...."

"Did you feel that?"
"Yes, I did. Thank you for asking..."

MeowMeow
10-27-08, 11:35 PM
However, Tidwell, regardless of whatever they do with him for the remainder of Season 2, has already served more purpose and been much more entertaining than the female Captain from Season 1.

In fairness, though, the old captain's behavior made more sense in the broader conspiracy. It was he job to flag any bad behavior and then can Charlie.

Now, you assume her firing (rather than being a writers' decision, right?) was because she failed to can Charlie. Therefore, shouldn't the new Cap be tasked with the same job? I mean, half the time Charlie and the new Cap look like they want to braid each others' hair and tell each other stories about boys they like. It's not exactly an adversarial relationship.

In fact, now that we've all but worked our way past Jack Reese, there isn't anyone in the story with an adversarial relationship with Charlie. So much for the importance of conflict in drama.

The show has abandoned a lot of what made it exceptional last season. I don't think the new writers understand S1's magic.

replayrob
10-28-08, 12:00 PM
... now that we've all but worked our way past Jack Reese, there isn't anyone in the story with an adversarial relationship with Charlie.

The show has abandoned a lot of what made it exceptional last season. I don't think the new writers understand S1's magic.
Agreed!
The "fight within the fight" was what made Life special last season. There are a zillion police procedurals on TV- we don't need another.

JMCecil
10-28-08, 05:56 PM
Agreed!
The "fight within the fight" was what made Life special last season. There are a zillion police procedurals on TV- we don't need another.
heh, I just posted something similar on the HOTP thread.

The show is only good when they do the back story. The procedural sucks because it really isn't a procedural. Reese just watches Crews figure stuff out in a disjointed way. When they do that it's like watching paint dry.

klouseau
11-07-08, 10:48 PM
I thought the last episode was plain awful. Seriously, there isn't a single alternate universe in existence where Donal Logue gets a shot at Sarah Shahi.



I disagree. You forget that Reese is an alcoholic. They have no self esteem and tend to be attracted to a much lower standard than they think they can attain.

I absolutely love this show. And am very glad it was moved to Wed nights.

tkmedia2
11-08-08, 12:34 AM
It was moved because of the PVR ratings and lipstick jungle, right?

tkmedia2
11-08-08, 01:57 AM
For people who have not been reading HOTP...

TV Notes
Rejuvenated by Move to Wednesday, ‘Life’ Gets Picked Up
By Josef Adalian, TV Week, November 7, 2008

Life goes on for “Life.”

NBC has ordered a full season of its low-rated drama, which recently moved to Wednesday nights. The series struggled to find an audience on Friday nights earlier this season, but saw its Nielsen numbers shoot up considerably—33%, to be exact—when the Peacock shifted it to 9 p.m. Wednesdays this week.

On the downside, “Life” attracted fewer viewers than the show it replaced, “Deal or No Deal.”

Nonetheless, NBC has decided to be patient with the Universal Media Studios-produced “Life,” which has generated the best reviews of any new NBC series in two years.

As for NBC’s other new fall shows, the network has ordered full seasons of “Knight Rider” and “Kath and Kim.” It has yet to make a decision regarding freshmen “My Own Worst Enemy” and “Crusoe” or sophomore hour “Lipstick Jungle.

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/11/rejuvenated_by_move_to_wednesd.php

jaypb
11-08-08, 07:10 AM
This weeks episode had those funny/quirky little moments....AFA facial expressions from both Crews and Reese.

And it seems like things are going to get interesting from the perspective of both Reese and the LT and Crews and the killers of what's her names parents.

I'm still digging this show.

Don S
11-08-08, 08:07 PM
In fact, now that we've all but worked our way past Jack Reese, there isn't anyone in the story with an adversarial relationship with Charlie. So much for the importance of conflict in drama.

The show has abandoned a lot of what made it exceptional last season. I don't think the new writers understand S1's magic.

I still love the show. The folks threatening to make "5 become 4" on the phone with Jack Reese are most certainly adversarial with Charlie, but we just don't have them present yet on the show. They will show up soon enough. I still enjoy it on several levels ...

cocoon
11-08-08, 11:49 PM
And it seems like things are going to get interesting from the perspective of both Reese and the LT and Crews and the killers of what's her names parents.

I'm still digging this show.

Her characters name is Rachel Seybolt played by Jessy Schram. I first recognized her from season 2 of Veronica Mars.

spyder696969
11-09-08, 10:40 AM
Glad that they cleared up the Tidwell and Reese thing a bit by truly sinking their teeth into the matter. People who bitch and moan that Captain Creep is too; old, fat, ugly, whatever for the uber-hot Reese, aren't seeing past the shallows of their being and into the heart of the situation (or life, for that matter) for what it is, imo.

It has been well-documented that Reese has had more than her share of narcissistic, one-dimensional, and meaningless relationships. Tidwell's impassioned speech about "the rules of dating him" were a perfect diorama of both his charm and realistic sense of self. Sure, he comes across as a spine-tingling stalker-type, but underneath all that it has become evident that he's looking for love, just like all of us here on this strange planet we call home. Reese opened her eyes and saw the light, as evidenced in her reaction at the end of the show. It will be interesting to see how these two "broken" people, both searching for the same "fix" in life, will interact with each other and how it will affect the tone of the show.

Personally, I like where this is going. :)

gwsat
11-09-08, 12:40 PM
spyder -- I agree that Tidwell is very interesting. His budding relationship with Reese makes sense to me, too. The main reason I find their relationship credible is that both are deeply flawed and vulnerable human beings. Maybe they think that they can mesh and help each other, it will be fun to see how it all plays out.

lax01
11-10-08, 10:54 AM
I <3 that this show got picked up...so great

vinnie97
11-11-08, 04:40 PM
spyder -- I agree that Tidwell is very interesting. His budding relationship with Reese makes sense to me, too. The main reason I find their relationship credible is that both are deeply flawed and vulnerable human beings. Maybe they think that they can mesh and help each other, it will be fun to see how it all plays out.

I <3 that this show got picked up...so great
Why do I get the feeling we have similar tastes? I've seen you both post in the PB, Unit and Heroes threads also. :o

gwsat
11-11-08, 09:48 PM
Damian Lewis' performances in the great Band of Brothers made me a fan. Nothing he has done in Life has disappointed me, either, although I have seen only a few episodes from Season 1. I consistently enjoy the performances of Sarah Shahi, as Charlie's partner, Dani, too. Dani's combination of toughness and vulnerability appeals to me. There are better shows on TV than Life but it's not chopped liver.

lax01
11-11-08, 11:30 PM
Why do I get the feeling we have similar tastes? I've seen you both post in the PB, Unit and Heroes threads also. :o

heh, don't speak to soon....

Never watched The Unit
and I have a very sharp distaste for Heroes right now (I am about to live in a world were season 1 was the last season)

See you in the Lost, BSG, SCC, Chuck, True Blood, and Californication threads (damn i watch way too much TV)

vinnie97
11-12-08, 05:52 AM
Oh, I'm with you on Heroes...the early episodes of the season were frustrating to no end, though I disliked the last 2 less (in spite of the continuity errors pointed out in the last epi by many ;)).

I would recommend The Unit (I know Gwsat is a fan) but that may not be to your liking...it's some of the best live action on television.

Is BSG still going? I thought they ceased production. You forgot to mention Fringe, btw (and I have not fallen victim to most of the others you mentioned besides Lost, so I guess you've found our dividing line). :D

Gwsat, I haven't yet seen Band of Brothers but there's been something addictive/compelling about Damian Lewis' on-screen persona since Life began. With the Band of Brothers Blu-ray out this week, I am very close to procuring a copy. Then, you of course have his foxy partner in Life, as you mentioned...

gwsat
11-12-08, 08:00 AM
vinnie -- Band of Brothers is a great miniseries, one of the great war films ever made. Lewis was great but so was everybody else. Get the BD, you won't regret it.

A lot of folks have been hating on Heroes lately. They have a point, I suppose, but I haven't got very excited about its silliness. I continue to enjoy it. What what the hell, it certainly beats watching reality shows. :)

You are right about my high regard for The Unit. This season has been mostly terrific, particularly the segments with the guys.

Another excellent series has been Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles. This week's episode was one of the best episodes of a TV series I have seen in a long time.

lax01
11-12-08, 09:57 AM
I'm not starting another long-running TV show...


and if I did it, it would be Dexter or The Shield...

BSG has finished production but the final episodes are slated to start in 2009....can't fracking wait

Garrett Adams
11-12-08, 07:00 PM
I didn't watch Band of Brothers, I experienced it. There's a difference. It's like you've removed the fourth wall and are actually there with C Company. I had the same experience with Lonesome Dove. Emotional stuff.

gwsat
11-12-08, 09:50 PM
I didn't watch Band of Brothers, I experienced it. There's a difference. It's like you've removed the fourth wall and are actually there with C Company. I had the same experience with Lonesome Dove. Emotional stuff.
As fond as I am of Band of Brothers, Lonesome Dove is my all time favorite miniseries. The original film was lovingly digitized and reframed to 16:9 for the BD edition, which was released earlier this year. I got it the day it came out. Highly, highly recommended!

I don't know what all of this has to do with Life, except that both it and Lonesome Dove were shown on TV but I promise to be more topical next time. :)

lax01
11-12-08, 10:16 PM
"you want some chips, it looks like you want some chips"

So whats the deal with the gum? I can't remember...what did it tip Charlie off to?

Good episode but one pretty large flaw in logic...there were no cameras in the mall? :) Come onnnnnnnnnnnn....at least say the system was down or something...every mall has cameras

jabbathespud
11-13-08, 02:02 AM
I really enjoyed tonight's episode. Best use of fruitcake ever in a TV show! Driving the bullet-ridden sportscar. I loved the dinner as Tidwell kept digging himself deeper and deeper.

The jumps to/from the back story were jarring and abrupt; almost wondered if the editor had spliced the wrong segments into the episode.

Someone else was asking what other does comedy and action as well as Chuck. I think Life might be 2nd of that list.

jabbathespud
11-13-08, 02:04 AM
"you want some chips, it looks like you want some chips"

So whats the deal with the gum? I can't remember...what did it tip Charlie off to?


The chips: "the munchies" is a common side effect of doing this illegal activity...

The gum: Charlie has meet his equal for the other side.

HDMe2
11-13-08, 02:06 AM
The jumps to/from the back story were jarring and abrupt; almost wondered if the editor had spliced the wrong segments into the episode.

I knew I wasn't the only one who rewinded and watched again between the commercial break where they jumped from finding the kids living downstairs to being at that public gathering the next day apparently. I was sure I had missed something, but then noticed they kept jumping around.

moob
11-13-08, 04:10 AM
Someone else was asking what other does comedy and action as well as Chuck. I think Life might be 2nd of that list.
That would be me. :p

I'm not really sure I'd put Life into the action genre though. I think of it more as a drama-comedy.

Last year, Life was one of my favorite shows. This year, while I'm still enjoying it (to a much lesser extent), it's not really a favorite.

Is it just me, or does it seem like the cops don't have much influence this season? And by that I mean, it feels like the public just doesn't respect them, at all. Like with the opening...if I had a cop screaming at me to stop (those toy soldiers at the door), especially here in LA, I'm stopping. And if I were a shopper seeing cops screaming and running towards the door, I'm not walking in.

The episode with the tennis players is another example that comes to mind. Everyone had seemed to treat them with such disregard.

Just one of those things that seems out of place this year.

NetworkTV
11-13-08, 07:45 AM
Is it just me, or does it seem like the cops don't have much influence this season? And by that I mean, it feels like the public just doesn't respect them, at all. Like with the opening...if I had a cop screaming at me to stop (those toy soldiers at the door), especially here in LA, I'm stopping. And if I were a shopper seeing cops screaming and running towards the door, I'm not walking in.

The episode with the tennis players is another example that comes to mind. Everyone had seemed to treat them with such disregard.

Just one of those things that seems out of place this year.
While opening the doors was questionable, I'm not sure the people outside actually knew what was going on inside. There didn't appear to be any cop cars out front and there weren't any uniformed officers present. Even if there were, unless they were coming at them guns drawn, most of those folks would have simply assumed they were crowd control for Black Friday.

I think in LA, more than most places, there is somewhat of a disregard for cops. Unlike, say, NYC, where they had an event to prove themselves to the public, the LAPD has a history of scandle. That's a lot to overcome. You have a lot of young people out there sporting the initials "FTP", so it has the potential to keep getting worse. It's almost fashionable to hate the LAPD.

Don't worry, though. The next time a 6.0 hits, they'll get some of that respect back.

lax01
11-13-08, 10:08 AM
The chips: "the munchies" is a common side effect of doing this illegal activity...

The gum: Charlie has meet his equal for the other side.

oh I was well aware of the chips comment and laugh hard on that one

I thought the gum might have some involvement in the conspiracy or something...

replayrob
11-13-08, 01:38 PM
I really enjoyed tonight's episode... I loved the dinner as Tidwell kept digging himself deeper and deeper.
Yep, he broke the the #1 rule of a sales job... shut up while your ahead!
He must have felt like a total jerk-off after Reese walked out on him :D

vfxproducer
11-13-08, 03:04 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem like the cops don't have much influence this season? And by that I mean, it feels like the public just doesn't respect them, at all.

This is a running complaint I have with almost all crime dramas, from Life to L&O and the rest. Any time the writers can't think of an ending to a scene where the cops are questioning a suspect, they just have the suspect dismiss the cops and say essentially "I have to get back to work. Buh-bye". It's not just Life. All police dramas resort to this lazy writing.

In reality, if cops came to my office to question me about a murder, I'm pretty much going to assume that my day is shot, and somebody else is going to have to cover my workload for the day. I'll give the cops as much time as they want at my office , to prevent getting dragged down to the station for questioning and becoming a suspect.

lax01
11-19-08, 10:15 PM
What a brilliant exchange tonight...

"Did you arrive together?"
"No" *stutter*
"Is that glitter on your face?"
"uh"
"Its from Bobby's sister"
"That's not your gun"
*trades guns*
"Can we just serve this warrant?"

Seriously great writing...loved it...great episode

moob
11-20-08, 03:50 AM
That whole scene had me rolling. Especially the awkward silences.

Indeed...great episode. This was the first time this season I felt like I was watching an episode of season 1 quality.

jaypb
11-20-08, 10:55 AM
My wife and I thought _THIS_ exchange was gold:

Crews: I made a decision.
Ted: What's that, Charlie?
Crews: I'm going swimming.
Ted: No man would hold that against you.

Great episode. Things on many levels seem to be going deeper.....:D

dtle
11-20-08, 12:40 PM
My wife and I thought _THIS_ exchange was gold:

Crews: I made a decision.
Ted: What's that, Charlie?
Crews: I'm going swimming.
Ted: No man would hold that against you.

Great episode. Things on many levels seem to be going deeper.....:D

I'm glad they didn't go to the cliche scene of having the ex-wife shows up at the house. (Rachel was spending the night with "Aunt" Jennifer.)

So, is the Badge Bunnies a real phenomenon? I'm really considering changing careers. How come there are no Pocket Protector Playmates?

UTV2TiVo
11-20-08, 01:32 PM
[QUOTE=dtle;15113175]So, is the Badge Bunnies a real phenomenon?/QUOTE]

I was wondering the same thing. I am sure, however, that if there is indeed such a phenomenom there is no way they are as hot as all the bunnies in the episode.
...but I am not complaining.

lax01
11-20-08, 03:13 PM
[QUOTE=dtle;15113175]So, is the Badge Bunnies a real phenomenon?/QUOTE]

I was wondering the same thing. I am sure, however, that if there is indeed such a phenomenom there is no way they are as hot as all the bunnies in the episode.
...but I am not complaining.

maybe in LA they are ;)

VisionOn
11-20-08, 04:35 PM
What a brilliant exchange tonight...

"Did you arrive together?"
"No" *stutter*
"Is that glitter on your face?"
"uh"
"Its from Bobby's sister"
"That's not your gun"
*trades guns*
"Can we just serve this warrant?"

Seriously great writing...loved it...great episode

That entire scene was great and the highlight of the episode. But beyond that it was mostly just a generic procedural cop show again.

And I like Donal Logue but him and Shahi together just makes me shake my head. I could possibly buy it if he didn't look like a hobo on the show.

vinnie97
11-21-08, 05:06 AM
What a brilliant exchange tonight...

"Did you arrive together?"
"No" *stutter*
"Is that glitter on your face?"
"uh"
"Its from Bobby's sister"
"That's not your gun"
*trades guns*
"Can we just serve this warrant?"

Seriously great writing...loved it...great episode

My wife and I thought _THIS_ exchange was gold:

Crews: I made a decision.
Ted: What's that, Charlie?
Crews: I'm going swimming.
Ted: No man would hold that against you.

Great episode. Things on many levels seem to be going deeper.....:D
Yep, these 2 scenes also had me ROFL'ing.:D

gwsat
11-21-08, 10:19 AM
For awhile earlier in the season I had started to fear that the show had lost a step but last night's episode convinced me otherwise.

Arative
11-21-08, 10:44 AM
I've been enjoying Life a lot, its a lot different than the usual crime shows on TV. I do kind of miss the documentary scenes this season, so far as I recall, there has only been 1 or 2 documentary scenes.

replayrob
11-21-08, 11:01 AM
Guess Crews knows something's happening between his partner and the new Capt....
Crews: "We'll ask them (points to the squad room holding the five badge bunnies), they can tell a good cop from a bad cop"
Capt Tidwell: "how do they do that"?
Crews: "I'm not going to tell you.... maybe Reese can help you with that" :D:D

Nice surprise ending.... didn't see that coming!

lax01
11-21-08, 01:09 PM
Guess Crews knows something's happening between his partner and the new Capt....
Crews: "We'll ask them (points to the squad room holding the five badge bunnies), they can tell a good cop from a bad cop"
Capt Tidwell: "how do they do that"?
Crews: "I'm not going to tell you.... maybe Reese can help you with that" :D:D

Nice surprise ending.... didn't see that coming!

another great line...

gakon
12-01-08, 06:52 PM
[QUOTE=UTV2TiVo;15113521]

maybe in LA they are ;)

Once upon a time they weren't.

http://www.tvrage.com/person/id-10743/Joyce+Van+Patten

If you're old enough to remember Rockford.

lax01
12-03-08, 09:33 PM
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

best opening to LIFE EVER~!!!!

lax01
12-03-08, 10:14 PM
DUDE

!!!!

This show gives me so much hope....

keenan
12-04-08, 02:53 AM
This show is so good, it's got the requisite "crime of the week", the ongoing serialized plot-line, it's got humor, it's got sex, it's got Crews' Zen moments for those "higher thinkers", and it's got an interesting and capable cast. What's not to like about this show? :)

A lot of great lines/moments tonight - "white people", "did he have a head injury?" LOL :D

jaypb
12-04-08, 09:17 AM
This show is so good, it's got the requisite "crime of the week", the ongoing serialized plot-line, it's got humor, it's got sex, it's got Crews' Zen moments for those "higher thinkers", and it's got an interesting and capable cast. What's not to like about this show? :)

A lot of great lines/moments tonight - "white people", "did he have a head injury?" LOL :D

And the plot CONTINUES to thicken as far as leading towards the bank heist...and his "niece"...and TED telling him he's in love with his future mother in law..

Awesome.
:cool:

replayrob
12-04-08, 09:24 AM
Best episode of the season so far by a long shot! Probably top 3 in the series run.
Many great scenes to choose from.... the hotel room scene, the interrogation room scene, the dinner table scene, the haircut scene, the "take a good long look" scene, the "I just learned something about my partner" taxi scene, etc...
Loved the opening too, Crews is one cool customer.
And Malaya Rivera Drew (played Anna) is gorgeous... wow! I could stand looking at her in hi-def every week :D

Tom Imp
12-05-08, 02:40 AM
Now THAT is how I want to see Sarah Shahi in every episode! :D

philw1776
12-06-08, 10:19 AM
Great show in a great series. "Did your partner ever have a head injury?"

The episode made me hungry for Indian food.

vfxproducer
12-07-08, 11:51 PM
Haircut scene. WOW. Sarah was selling every single hip grind. Bravo!

But for comedy value, the dinner scene was priceless. "Indian food? Really?"

NetworkTV
12-08-08, 07:03 AM
Haircut scene. WOW. Sarah was selling every single hip grind. Bravo!

But for comedy value, the dinner scene was priceless. "Indian food? Really?"
...as well as the later lines:

"I was out in the middle of nowhere!"
"And, by that, he means my home..."

jaypb
12-19-08, 09:00 AM
Or has "Life" fallen by the wayside?

I'm soooooo damn pissed that I Have to wait a month and a half to see how this all shakes out.

Charlie seems to have gotten himself in PRETTY deep....

Great episode as far as peeling the layers of the onion back even further (Roman, Charlie's father, Reese, Reese's relationship with her father, Reese's Alcoholism, Rachel, Ted etc....)

And now I've got to wait 6 f'ing weeks.......:mad:

rdgrimes
12-19-08, 09:39 AM
6 weeks to figure out who shot Charlie. I vote for his father, or some other "non-criminal" person who we would least expect. Who knocks on the door before shooting you? How would he/she know that Charlie would answer?

O2C
12-19-08, 10:11 AM
Charlie's father already inside the house waiting to be picked up. I think anyone keeping half an eye on the house would have known Charlie would have answered the door. His roommate is in prison. He sent Rachel away. His dad is only a guest and in a wheelchair. Who else could have answered?

And you knock on the door to have the door opened. It's much easier than trying to see and shoot someone through a closed door.

tvrbob86
12-19-08, 10:12 AM
6 weeks to figure out who shot Charlie. I vote for his father, or some other "non-criminal" person who we would least expect. Who knocks on the door before shooting you? How would he/she know that Charlie would answer?Wasn't his father sitting in a wheelchair in the same room when Charlie was shot? Or am I misremembering?

Edit: I see O2C beat me to it.

bobby94928
12-19-08, 11:07 AM
His father was in the room talking with Sarah. His wound appears to be from the front. I think it is someone else.

rdgrimes
12-19-08, 01:11 PM
Charlie's father already inside the house waiting to be picked up. I think anyone keeping half an eye on the house would have known Charlie would have answered the door. His roommate is in prison. He sent Rachel away. His dad is only a guest and in a wheelchair. Who else could have answered?

And you knock on the door to have the door opened. It's much easier than trying to see and shoot someone through a closed door.
All true, but I certainly wouldn't announce my presence by knocking if I wanted to shoot a cop and not get shot back. It just seems amateurish.

Point being that there's something odd going on, and I bet it's not a gangsta shooting.

jaypb
12-19-08, 01:26 PM
All true, but I certainly wouldn't announce my presence by knocking if I wanted to shoot a cop and not get shot back. It just seems amateurish.

Point being that there's something odd going on, and I bet it's not a gangsta shooting.

I wonder if that's the tie in to ole' Arthur Tins appearance in that dream like sequence right before the show ended...maybe that is a *clue* to who shot Charlie? Tins son? Friend? Accomplice?

gakon
12-19-08, 01:31 PM
It's not a gangsta shooting because the Russians wouldn't miss vital organs, or stop after one shot, or stop with him.

Charlie needs to carry his gun around the house more. If I had come home and found an FBI agent carrying a knife, I'd probably have dropped him right there. Or at least cuff him (still wearing the apron). Of course, that probably wouldn't advance the plot in the direction the writers wanted.

I've gotten pretty hooked on this show. If the rumors of its demise are true, I hope they at least plan a way to wrap it up at the end of the spring episodes.

gwsat
12-19-08, 02:08 PM
For awhile early in the season, I thought Life might have lost a step from last season's high quality.. As this season has progressed, though, I have liked each episode better than the preceding one. I thought last night's was terrific. Charlie shooting his father was a hoot, in a decidedly weird way, and the way Charlie made sure that Ted wouldn't be victimized in jail was a lot of fun, too. I don't have a clue about what is going on with Charlie having been shot by an unknown assailant. We'll find out, though, I bet.

rdgrimes
12-19-08, 02:23 PM
In his dream after being shot, the guy talking to him was from one of his previous cases, so may the shooting is tied to that case.

HDMe2
12-19-08, 02:52 PM
Although he could bleed to death or have other complications, the shot itself wasn't a kill shot... which suggests it was a "message" more than intent to kill Charlie. Who from? Who knows...

Meanwhile, the "how would they know he would answer" is simple enough. Someone rang and ran, the shooter was across the street or something with a sniper rifle. If Charlie answers, boom... if someone else answers, then try again later.

bluestar48
12-20-08, 09:22 AM
My vote goes to Olivia, the future step-mother. It'll have to do with some convulted reasoning involving Ted.

Tony

VisionOn
12-25-08, 06:15 PM
I've had Life sat on my DVR for weeks now and was catching up while doing other stuff. I can't believe I waited so long to watch the finale because that episode was great. It brought back a lot of elements that were missing, put the focus back on the people rather than the crimes and gave Adam Arkin something to actually do.

Still not enough zen attitude from Charlie and the end was bit of a cliche but for the first time this season I'm interested to know what happens next.

I think Garret Dillahunt is in competition with Todd Stashwick to see who can guest star on the most TV shows.

gwsat
12-25-08, 07:12 PM
I think Garret Dillahunt is in competition with Todd Stashwick to see who can guest star on the most TV shows.
Dillahunt is everywhere. Today I watched his performance in The Assassination of Jesse James and have also been enjoying his performances as a Cyborg in the Terminator series. I first got onto Dillahunt through his Deadwood performances, in which he portrayed two very different characters in two seasons. The guy has a lot of range.

replayrob
12-25-08, 11:21 PM
Dillahunt is everywhere.
Bet he's the final Cylon model :D

jabbathespud
01-09-09, 05:24 PM
While we wait for the series to reappear, here's a link to tide some of you over:

http://egotastic.com/entertainment/celebrities/sarah-shahi/

jaypb
01-09-09, 05:43 PM
While we wait for the series to reappear, here's a link to tide some of you over:

http://egotastic.com/entertainment/celebrities/sarah-shahi/

Out of curiosity...is she....uh...pregnant....or did she have work done recently? B/c Reese sure looks....ample(-er) now.... :p

jabbathespud
01-09-09, 05:46 PM
I'm attributing it to less restrictive clothing...

cocoon
01-10-09, 04:15 AM
Out of curiosity...is she....uh...pregnant....or did she have work done recently? B/c Reese sure looks....ample(-er) now.... :p

I for one hope not or at least in someway that will not change the storyline of this show.

OgOgilby
01-10-09, 01:48 PM
We love the show but my wife and I missed the first season. The first season is available on DVD but not in HD. Does anyone know if the first season will be out in BluRay (assuming it was broadcast in HD)?

lax01
01-10-09, 01:50 PM
We love the show but my wife and I missed the first season. The first season is available on DVD but not in HD. Does anyone know if the first season will be out in BluRay (assuming it was broadcast in HD)?

It was broadcast in HD...no idea on the BluRay...guess thats up to NBC Universal

gakon
01-10-09, 03:09 PM
I missed a lot of the first season. I sucked it up and watched it on Hulu. Doesn't compare to the full experience, but it's easy.

HDMe2
01-10-09, 05:30 PM
I would like to buy the first season (I watched it at least)... but no Blu ray yet AND word is that the DVD that was released is not exactly as-aired. I believe some music has been altered due to some rights issues or something.

gakon
01-10-09, 05:52 PM
Yeah, same is true of the music on Hulu, but I actually went and bought one of the songs I heard on Hulu - one that wasn't in the original airing.

rdgrimes
02-01-09, 10:41 AM
A reminder that Life will resume on NBC starting Wednesday, 2/4.

lax01
02-01-09, 04:47 PM
A reminder that Life will resume on NBC starting Wednesday, 2/4.

Against my new favorite show Lie to Me and Lost

SMRT!

Bluto17
02-02-09, 07:53 AM
That turned into a really crowded hour for me too. This is where a 2nd DVR comes in handy.

Just to bring us up to date, Crews was shot by an unknown assailant when he opened his front door. A good cliffhanger, and I'm really looking forward to Wednesday.

replayrob
02-02-09, 04:48 PM
Just to bring us up to date, Crews was shot by an unknown assailant when he opened his front door. A good cliffhanger, and I'm really looking forward to Wednesday.
The last two episodes before the Christmas break were excellent- hope they keep up the good work for the rest of the season!

lax01
02-04-09, 11:24 PM
Good episode to bring it back...very ZEN...lets hope NBC realizes that this is one of their own decent shows still on air and doesn't cancel it...

I'm glad that Crewes and Reese are back...I missed them...

tkmedia2
02-05-09, 03:37 PM
Against my new favorite show Lie to Me.


Strange that both shows has a plot element that involves NASA and flight.

rdgrimes
02-05-09, 06:09 PM
I very much enjoyed this ep. Will be interesting to see where the new relationship between Charlie and the FBI man goes. Having shared a bullet and all. ;)

jaypb
02-06-09, 07:49 AM
I very much enjoyed this ep. Will be interesting to see where the new relationship between Charlie and the FBI man goes. Having shared a bullet and all. ;)

I kind of had an inkling that the FBI guy either did it or was there when Crews was shot....only because he kept saying "there's a black space"....and in my mind I translated that to "black face"...but that's just me.....:p

And I can't wait to see Roman come back....maybe he'll make Charlie REALLY angry :D

rdgrimes
02-06-09, 09:01 AM
And I can't wait to see Roman come back....maybe he'll make Charlie REALLY angry :D
Roman is pretty much untouchable. We never saw what happened to him over the business at the bar, but I'll wager it won't be much.

Charlie knows that if the FBI man really wanted to kill him he would have done so. One shot to the shoulder is not an execution.

All in all a very nice twist in the story.

replayrob
02-06-09, 02:22 PM
Aside from being an entertaining episode overall, some nice one liners in there too....

Tidwell to Crews and Reese as they're leaving the room: "detective.... a word"
(Reese stops in the doorway assuming Tidwell wants to speak privately with her)
Tidwell: "no not you.... him"
(Reese leaves and Crews steps back in the room)
Crews: "isn't this when you usually kiss Reese?"
Tidwell: "well, I got something else in mind for you"
:D:D:D:D:D:D

rdgrimes
02-06-09, 02:38 PM
What's with the hair on Tidwell?

Looks like an 80's refugee, YUK!

Went from bad to worse. :rolleyes:

keenan
02-06-09, 02:48 PM
What's with the hair on Tidwell?

Looks like an 80's refugee, YUK!

Went from bad to worse. :rolleyes:

Really! It almost looks like a hairpiece.

AAF
02-06-09, 03:34 PM
Really! It almost looks like a hairpiece.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that.

rdgrimes
02-06-09, 04:03 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that.

It's got to be some sort of an inside joke that will be played out later on. Too funny not to be.

keenan
02-06-09, 04:09 PM
It's got to be some sort of an inside joke that will be played out later on. Too funny not to be.

Could be, didn't Reese cut his hair recently? Maybe it's ploy to get her in the same situation again, I seem to recall she was near naked when she did it. :p

rdgrimes
02-06-09, 05:13 PM
Could be, didn't Reese cut his hair recently? Maybe it's ploy to get her in the same situation again, I seem to recall she was near naked when she did it. :p

I forgot that. My god, did she do that to him? What a dufus.

AAF
02-07-09, 04:15 PM
Out of curiosity...is she....uh...pregnant....or did she have work done recently? B/c Reese sure looks....ample(-er) now.... :p

She's pregnant.

http://www.wireimage.com/SearchResults.aspx?igi=353476&s=Sarah Shahi&sfld=C&vwmd=e

Let's hope they can shoot around it. Not sure getting knocked up by the boss would play well as a story line.

jaypb
02-08-09, 05:36 AM
She's pregnant.

http://www.wireimage.com/SearchResults.aspx?igi=353476&s=Sarah Shahi&sfld=C&vwmd=e

Let's hope they can shoot around it. Not sure getting knocked up by the boss would play well as a story line.

Alrighty then.....I guess the "eyes" have it ! :D

I knew something seemed *off* when those pics were posted a month or so ago and my wife commented in a few shots in Wednesday night's episode she thought she saw a "bump".

Maybe they'll send Charlie on a deeper, solo quest to find out who framed him for the end of this season with her condition if they don't write it into the script. :confused:

NetworkTV
02-08-09, 07:21 AM
Aside from being an entertaining episode overall, some nice one liners in there too....

Tidwell to Crews and Reese as they're leaving the room: "detective.... a word"
(Reese stops in the doorway assuming Tidwell wants to speak privately with her)
Tidwell: "no not you.... him"
(Reese leaves and Crews steps back in the room)
Crews: "isn't this when you usually kiss Reese?"
Tidwell: "well, I got something else in mind for you"
:D:D:D:D:D:D
The best one for me was:

Crews: "Make the call that gets Ted out of prison."
(Agent Bodner taps some keys on his phone, then closes it)
Crews: "What was that?"
Agent Bodner: "A text message."
Crews: "So the call isn't even a call anymore? I'm never gonna catch up..."

donaldsonjune
02-09-09, 08:51 PM
blooper: "no african american is the jail scene" :rolleyes:

lax01
02-19-09, 12:04 AM
"Those kids, they'll steal anything not bolted down"


"See I said the kids did it"

good episode...

jabbathespud
02-19-09, 01:54 AM
Didn't even notice the missing roof at the beginning until they mentioned it. Had to go back and check. I love this show.

keenan
02-19-09, 03:33 AM
The old lady was hysterical, when she called the roofing guy a "thievin' prick" I had to pause the program I was laughing so hard. :p:D

Pagali
02-20-09, 03:53 AM
Did anybody else notice there was no glimpse of Dani in next week's previews? And Bobby (the ex-partner) was in a suit and seemed to be partnering again?

Howie
02-20-09, 02:30 PM
Pregnant or not, Sarah makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

replayrob
02-20-09, 03:12 PM
Did anybody else notice there was no glimpse of Dani in next week's previews? And Bobby (the ex-partner) was in a suit and seemed to be partnering again?
Yeah, she's definitely showing now.
Don't know how they're going to handle it- maybe the old "no belly shots" or she falls off the wagon and goes to detox for several months and we only hear her via the phone, or she somehow lands in the hospital and we see her with layers of bedsheets on. In any case.... it should be interesting.

I'd love to see Bobby partnered w/Crews for a few episodes... he's just got a special way with people doesn't he?:eek:

jaypb
02-21-09, 06:33 AM
The old lady was hysterical, when she called the roofing guy a "thievin' prick" I had to pause the program I was laughing so hard. :p:D

That old lady eh..... :)

C'mon...that was Charlotte Rae (Edna Garrett) from the "Facts of LIFE".....segueing to "Life"....now that's coming full circle....no?

Wonder WTF she's been.......maybe working on her usage of the word "prick"???? ;)

Finally got a chance to watch this episode last night and I still find it as funny and entertaining as it was the first time I caught it.

gakon
02-25-09, 10:04 PM
OK, she's quite far along in the pregnancy. They barely tried to hide it in the opening scene.

replayrob
02-26-09, 11:10 AM
OK, she's quite far along in the pregnancy. They barely tried to hide it in the opening scene.
Yeah, boy I wonder if they know we all watch in 1080i??
Guess we now know how they're going to handle the bulge- away on FBI duty for a few weeks :rolleyes:

PS- the FBI interview was tense- I felt my pulse/blood pressure going up when the agent asked about Jack Reese and Mickey Rayborn.

keenan
02-26-09, 03:24 PM
Yeah, boy I wonder if they know we all watch in 1080i??
Guess we now know how they're going to handle the bulge- away on FBI duty for a few weeks :rolleyes:

PS- the FBI interview was tense- I felt my pulse/blood pressure going up when the agent asked about Jack Reese and Mickey Rayborn.

That FBI thing looks to be just a way to pump Reese about the bank robbery thing rather than having her on loan to the FBI.

gakon
02-26-09, 05:10 PM
That FBI thing looks to be just a way to pump Reese about the bank robbery thing rather than having her on loan to the FBI.

Sure does, but it will be hard to drag out that story line until Sarah comes back from maternity leave.

rdgrimes
03-04-09, 10:48 PM
Has this been canceled? Showing a re-run tonight and something else replacing it next week. Nothing mentioned at all on the official web site.

Oops, I take it back. New episode next week according to the advert.

vinnie97
03-08-09, 10:42 AM
Finally caught up with the episodes from 2009...this show is excellence defined. The new old partner Bobby's incredulous gestures at the pigeon enthusiasts/growers had me in stitches. I think they skipped airing a new episode this past week, though?

NetworkTV
03-08-09, 10:47 AM
Yeah, boy I wonder if they know we all watch in 1080i??
Sure, but they also know it's on NBC, which is also presented in "compression80i". Perhaps they figured we wouldn't notice with all the macroblocking...

keenan
03-12-09, 03:14 PM
The ratings last night came in lower than UniVision. Methinks this show is running on empty, and I'm blaming Sarah Shahi because she got pregnant. :D

The previews that mentioned Gabrielle Union joining the cast doesn't sound good to me either, seemingly indicating Shahi won't be back for some time. In my opinion, if that happens, the show is dead for certain as the Crews/Reese dynamic is what made this show special for me. Not to mention, I can't stand Union.

AAF
03-12-09, 03:23 PM
I laughed when they had her character on the phone. Hiding the pregnancy with clothing - check, have the character go off and do something "elsewhere" - check, character on the phone - check, referred to in conversation - check. Still waiting on "hidden by furniture."

Agree that it's the partner dynamic that makes the show tick best.

gwsat
03-12-09, 05:03 PM
The ratings last night came in lower than UniVision. Methinks this show is running on empty, and I'm blaming Sarah Shahi because she got pregnant. :D

The previews that mentioned Gabrielle Union joining the cast doesn't sound good to me either, seemingly indicating Shahi won't be back for some time. In my opinion, if that happens, the show is dead for certain as the Crews/Reese dynamic is what made this show special for me. Not to mention, I can't stand Union.
Yeah, I think Lewis and Shahi have terrific chemistry. Although Gabrielle Union has been around for a long time, I have never seen her in a thing. Maybe she can keep the show from deteriorating in Shahi's absence but I doubt it. I, too, suspect that Life's ride is about over.

rrainwater
03-12-09, 05:50 PM
I, too, suspect that Life's ride is about over.

It was over when season 2 started. They completely destroyed everything that made the show good in the first season.

keenan
03-12-09, 07:49 PM
It was over when season 2 started. They completely destroyed everything that made the show good in the first season.

They didn't destroy everything, but they sure took some good whacks at it.

Shame, this one was different from the rest.

keenan
03-12-09, 07:50 PM
Yeah, I think Lewis and Shahi have terrific chemistry. Although Gabrielle Union has been around for a long time, I have never seen her in a thing. Maybe she can keep the show from deteriorating in Shahi's absence but I doubt it. I, too, suspect that Life's ride is about over.

She was in the short-lived Night Stalker, and I thought she was awful, but that's just my opinion.

replayrob
03-12-09, 10:53 PM
It was over when season 2 started. They completely destroyed everything that made the show good in the first season.
Hate to agree with you bro... but I do!
The conspiracy investigation's almost gone, Jack Reese is awol, the Zen is pretty much gone, the fruit is gone, Adam Arkin is almost never on, the Ex wife and hot lawyer are gone, the original captain is gone, now Sarah Shahi is pretty much off camera. Gee, what's left from season one?

Season one.... fantastic!
Season two.... erratic (at best only a handful of episodes stand up to season one standards). :(:(
Well, if nothing else... they can always use "Life" as a textbook example for future generations of how to ruin a perfectly good show... just change pretty much everything that worked from the first season!

mikey mo
03-13-09, 04:45 AM
It was over when season 2 started. They completely destroyed everything that made the show good in the first season.

I agree that it may go belly up. Let's hope they give us some closure of what is left of the original premises, which, I must say, is getting harder and harder to follow or care about. And I even rented Season One on DVD last year to get caught up.:confused:

slowbiscuit
03-13-09, 12:53 PM
Have to agree with everyone here. This show is like Heroes, which started out great in S1 and then screwed the pooch in S2. While they're still (casually) following the main plot about Crews' framing and the conspiracy at LAPD, it's lost all the magic from S1 and is nothing more than a police procedural now. Replayrob hit all the reasons why I'm no longer interested, and losing Reese will be the final nail. But I'll watch it to the end.

Shame because Damian Lewis has once again shown why he's an outstanding actor. Has NBC said anything about cancellation/renewal yet?

Distorted
03-13-09, 06:06 PM
TV By The Numbers says Life is "certain to be canceled" if for no other reason that the network must abandon marginal shows to make room for 5 hours of Jay Leno. It is now drawing about 4M viewers a week...way down the list.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/03/10/heroes-coming-back-but-dont-tell-that-to-chuck-fans/14290

Too bad as it was my favorite, and is going to suffer the same fate as my favorite last year, Journeyman. I'm obviously out of the mainstream.

Distorted
03-13-09, 06:11 PM
TV By The Numbers says Life is "certain to be canceled" if for no other reason than that the network must abandon marginal shows to make room for 5 hours of prime-time for Jay Leno. It is now drawing about 4M viewers a week...way down the list.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/03/10/heroes-coming-back-but-dont-tell-that-to-chuck-fans/14290

Too bad as it was my favorite, and is going to suffer the same fate as my favorite last year, Journeyman. I'm obviously out of the mainstream.

gakon
03-13-09, 08:03 PM
Too bad as it was my favorite, and is going to suffer the same fate as my favorite last year, Journeyman. I'm obviously out of the mainstream.
That makes two of us.

vfxproducer
03-14-09, 06:53 PM
I've been enjoying season 2. It's different than season 1, I'll grant that. But I would hardly call it 'ruined'. I normally can't stand to watch cop shows of any type, but the writing, acting, and direction on this show is so far beyond most cop dramas, that it's in my top 3 shows right now.

Oddly, all my top 3 shows are on NBC. Life, 30 Rock, and The Office. I bet NBC would like to clone me if they could.

lax01
03-18-09, 11:44 PM
I really don't know what to make of tonight's episode...Gabrielle Union somehow works and doesn't work...I liked them questioning whether she was a robot...but a black female lawyer detective speed-reading indy car driver who wants to be mayor? wow...really?

And the plot...that was odd...very odd...guess someone had some needs they wanted to get off their chest (needs being a very strong theme through the episode)

replayrob
03-19-09, 12:25 PM
I really don't know what to make of tonight's episode...Gabrielle Union somehow works and doesn't work...I liked them questioning whether she was a robot...but a black female lawyer detective speed-reading indy car driver who wants to be mayor? wow...really?
I thought she (Gabrielle Union) did a decent job.
Think they wanted to give Charlie someone who is more his intellectual equal- plus some- to work with. With Reese, it was always... "Reese- did you ever do xxx?" ... "no" or "did you ever try this?"... "no". Now he has someone who could possibly one-up him.
Plus.... she's nice to look at too :D

AAF
03-19-09, 06:35 PM
Gabrielle is a peach, but since she's so "super achiever" are they trying to keep us from thinking she's a federal plant, or trying to distract us into thinking that she is? Or is just me? On my god, why are there black helicopters circling my house?

Never mind, they're just laughing at my bracket sheets.


I don't envy the show runners having an actor suddenly unable to perform for the task they hired them for with your a show on the bubble. It's a tricky patch. You can't exactly put "don't get knocked up" into a contract.

rdgrimes
03-19-09, 06:51 PM
I'm guessing she was "dumped" on Crews as his new partner because no one else wanted a goody-2-shoes. Or she's a fed, or both. She certainly demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge of the proper techniques for questioning a suspect. Crews chasing her out of the perp room was pretty funny. Seems like a quick learner though, and a total suck-up. Might just be good mayor material after all.

moob
03-19-09, 10:07 PM
Might just be good mayor material after all.

Now all she needs to do is start sleeping with local reporters.

On camera.

Starting with Mary Beth McDade.


I thought the case this episode was dull as hell, but the FBI/precinct portions kept me interested.

slowbiscuit
03-20-09, 02:48 PM
She's ok but way too eager beaver, so far. I guess the newbie partner is what they wanted, but I don't know if it works that well with her. We'll see.

They keep throwing in the bits around the main plot but never seem to go anywhere with it. Are they wanting Reese to be an FBI plant? Why would she betray her partner knowing how good he is as a detective (if a bit strange)? He's done nothing that shows he killed Rayborn anymore than she has.

I guess I don't see where they're going with a couple of pictures - there's nothing incriminating about a meeting between either Reese or Crews and Rayborn.

keenan
03-20-09, 03:08 PM
I thought she (Gabrielle Union) did a decent job.
Think they wanted to give Charlie someone who is more his intellectual equal- plus some- to work with. With Reese, it was always... "Reese- did you ever do xxx?" ... "no" or "did you ever try this?"... "no". Now he has someone who could possibly one-up him.
Plus.... she's nice to look at too :D

But that's what made the pairing so good, the cynical Reese with the alternative thinking Crews, they made for an interesting and unique pair. Now, they're just yet another pair of cops.

Doesn't really matter though as with NBC only programming 2 hrs of scripted drama next season, and the fact that Shahi's pregnancy has all but destroyed the synchronicity of the leads, along with the poor ratings, I'd be shocked if this show returned next season. Shame, it was unique among all the other crime shows out there.

vfxproducer
03-20-09, 04:22 PM
I thought Gabrielle Union's character fit the overall quirkiness of the show, and enjoyed her contribution. Now, she might be a fed really investigating Cruise, and all that quirkiness might be part of her cover to throw them off the scent. And that would be an interesting twist. But pure speculation on my part.

Either way, if they had to replace Sarah Shahi because of the pregnancy, I'm glad they went with the new detective instead of continuing the partnership with Bobby.

gwsat
03-20-09, 08:46 PM
I thought Gabrielle Union's character fit the overall quirkiness of the show, and enjoyed her contribution.
I agree. I was surprised that I liked Union's character as much as I did in the last episode. When I saw her on the preview last week I was decidedly unimpressed but the way her character was presented this week gives me hope for the future of the show with her on board.

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
03-22-09, 09:04 PM
I tried to watch the first season of this show, and find it to be boring. The Iranian women trying to be mexican is a bad actor, and the Crews detective guy is very annoying, and unlikeable, plus the cases were boring!

gwsat
03-22-09, 09:54 PM
I tried to watch the first season of this show, and find it to be boring. The Iranian women trying to be mexican is a bad actor, and the Crews detective guy is very annoying, and unlikeable, plus the cases were boring!
Since you posted the same thing about The Office, another very popular show, only two minutes before this post, I wondered about your motives and confess that the word "troll" immediately came to my mind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Executive summary: "An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion."

MeowMeow
03-23-09, 12:45 AM
Finally caught up on the show . . . wow, took way too long.

First thought: Gabrielle Union. One of the few women who can make me completely not stare at Sarah Shahi. But, I'm not sure why she's in the story. I know Charlie and Bobby add up to a sausage fest, but I liked them partnering for a few weeks, even if it felt more like a Simpsons plot than anything else.

Second thought: So, the conspiracy story isn't dead. In fact, the last couple episodes were pretty heavy on it. I was worried for a little while.

Third thought: Season 2 of Life is starting to feel a bit like Season 2 of Dead Like Me. Why do I say that? On the first viewing, S2 of DLM was coherent and watchable. But, when you rewatch the entire series, you see the show drop off a cliff.

While I still enjoy Life, it isn't a show I feel really energized to ask other people to watch anymore.

Fourth thought: Who owes Donal Logue what? First he gets Megyn Price on Grounded for Life and now he gets Sarah Shahi? Donal Logue is TV's version of Billy Bob Thorton when it comes to on-screen beddings of women out of his league.

vfxproducer
03-23-09, 02:03 AM
The Iranian women trying to be mexican is a bad actor,

Yeah, you have to do better than that if you are going to troll. The statement above was enough to demonstrate that you aren't really watching the show, since the actress is in fact NOT trying to play Mexican.

MeowMeow
03-23-09, 02:44 PM
the actress is in fact NOT trying to play Mexican.

What?! Every knows the story of how the Reese family financed Pizarro's conquest of the part of Atlantis we now call Oaxaca! Doesn't anyone anymore recall the semi-mythical stories of Pancho Reese and his band of merry men who died at the Alamo defending Oregon from the Hindus!?!

Reese is the third most common name in all of Mexico after Speedy and Gonzalez! Geez. Buy a history book, man.

vfxproducer
03-23-09, 02:56 PM
Reese is the third most common name in all of Mexico after Speedy and Gonzalez!

I am SOOOO glad I wasn't drinking my morning cup of coffee when I read that. It would have sprayed all over my monitor.

keenan
03-23-09, 03:53 PM
What?! Every knows the story of how the Reese family financed Pizarro's conquest of the part of Atlantis we now call Oaxaca! Doesn't anyone anymore recall the semi-mythical stories of Pancho Reese and his band of merry men who died at the Alamo defending Oregon from the Hindus!?!

Reese is the third most common name in all of Mexico after Speedy and Gonzalez! Geez. Buy a history book, man.

:D:D:eek::eek::p:p

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
03-23-09, 08:37 PM
No trolling, I did try to watch the first 4 episodes.


"Strip away the abrasive flourishes, and what's left is a standard-issue TV mystery with cases that are too easy to solve and internal conflicts and conspiracies that make no sense."

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/reviews/2007-09-25-life_N.htm?csp=34

I would have to agree with this, and this show is getting canceled anyways what's the point in watching.

Plus all the sex with hookers, the annoying old man who lives him, using zen like whenever he wants, and eating fruit I can't stand this character.

lax01
03-23-09, 11:39 PM
Plus all the sex with hookers, the annoying old man who lives him, using zen like whenever he wants, and eating fruit I can't stand this character.
lol ironic...thats exactly why I love Charlie Crews

MeowMeow
03-24-09, 12:06 AM
lol ironic...thats exactly why i love charlie crews

+1

slowbiscuit
03-24-09, 07:33 AM
No trolling, I did try to watch the first 4 episodes.

See that Back button at the top of your browser window? Please feel free to hit it and exit, stage left. You are trolling here.

MeowMeow
03-24-09, 12:57 PM
See that Back button at the top of your browser window? Please feel free to hit it and exit, stage left. You are trolling here.

He does seem pretty persistent for someone who doesn't like the show. And Life isn't a show like Fringe, where you can kinda troll it and still love it. You're gonna know pretty fast whether Life works for you, and there isn't a real gray area where you can enjoy it for the wrong reasons.

vinnie97
03-25-09, 07:53 AM
Sex with hookers?! I must've missed that episode. :eek:

NetworkTV
03-25-09, 10:35 AM
Sex with hookers?! I must've missed that episode. :eek:
That one must have aired while I was out having sex with a bunch of hookers...

D-I-G-I-T-A-L
03-25-09, 11:25 AM
The cases are so horrible like the prostitutes wearing angel wings, there is no way this show survives season 2!

Why bother watching an incomplete story? Too much of a bother!