Just a quick heads-up for those unfamiliar with Bioshock (like myself) and eager to see what the hype was about last year. It's already up on the UK store and expected to be arriving with the PSN update today...:D

Just a quick heads-up for those unfamiliar with Bioshock (like myself) and eager to see what the hype was about last year. It's already up on the UK store and expected to be arriving with the PSN update today...:D

Now THAT made my day. It's on my list of 'to buy' this year as I've always been intrigued with the title. Going to be downloading that tonight! Thanks!

Now THAT made my day. It's on my list of 'to buy' this year as I've always been intrigued with the title. Going to be downloading that tonight! Thanks!

Yes sir, I'm right there with ya. The only negative I've heard thus far is that the controls can't be remapped and that fire is on the r2 rather than r1 buttons:(, GTA4 style as opposed to COD4.

Because EVERY game should be like COD4!

Because EVERY game should be like COD4!

At least he didn't say SOCOM.

Your both wrong. All games controls should be like warhawk :)

I'm anxious to check this out, too, to see how it compares to the Xbox version. I'm sure it'll be the opening sequence of the game like the Xbox demo was, but I'm hoping for a different level for this demo.

Regardless, great game. Definitely try it if you've never played it.

Actually, I can deal with almost any controller scheme. Unless the game controlled like Lair! ;)

Your both wrong. All games controls should be like warhawk :)

+1 most underrated ps3 game ever son

Your both wrong. All games controls should be like warhawk :)

does that mean you'd suck at every game?

+1 most underrated ps3 game ever son

Don't staht thah agaihn /jungle book.

+1 most underrated ps3 game ever son

Doesn't it have the largest number of people playing it online? Dunno if it's underrated. I think that award goes to Folklore :(

+1 on folklore!

Can't wait to get home and download it!

I'm anxious to check this out, too, to see how it compares to the Xbox version. I'm sure it'll be the opening sequence of the game like the Xbox demo was, but I'm hoping for a different level for this demo.

Regardless, great game. Definitely try it if you've never played it.

I have to think it's going to look fantastic on my 10' wide fp setup. The art style always intrigued me and I almost bought an xbox just to try it out. Just don't have enough time for another console, so was glad when I heard this was getting the PS3 treatment.

does that mean you'd suck at every game?

u don't know anything he's in our clan. If u were on we'd school u son. What's ur psn id look us up to get pwned. thats how we roll.

The art style always intrigued me and I almost bought an xbox just to try it out. Just don't have enough time for another console, so was glad when I heard this was getting the PS3 treatment.

I was in the same situation. Very happy day, that was :)

I was in the same situation. Very happy day, that was :)I've seen it on 110" screen with a buddy's XBox - sweet graphics, very cool sounds. I'm tempted to ask for it for the holidays. To much stuff coming out now!

I'm tempted to ask for it for the holidays. To much stuff coming out now!

*raises glass*

To much stuff!

Because EVERY game should be like COD4!


:D

So funny how games nowhere near related to COD4 are still being compared even if it's the control schemes.

Your both wrong. All games controls should be like warhawk :)

That is the truth.

Demo is now up on the US PSN , 1430 MB .

- Jason

Yes sir, I'm right there with ya. The only negative I've heard thus far is that the controls can't be remapped and that fire is on the r2 rather than r1 buttons:(, GTA4 style as opposed to COD4.

i prefer to map the fire button to my index finger on my modified bluetooth Power Glove

i prefer to map the fire button to my index finger on my modified bluetooth Power Glove

http://www.sublimeparadigm.com/blog/wp-images/powerglove.jpg

...awesome

Demo is now up on the US PSN , 1430 MB .

- Jason

Strange, I downloaded it earlier from the UK PSN and it was a whopping 1814 MB. I wonder how it differs?

Strange, I downloaded it earlier from the UK PSN and it was a whopping 1814 MB. I wonder how it differs?

I noticed that too. Is it a different version?

that and eternal sonata and a few others looks like a good PSN update.

Strange, I downloaded it earlier from the UK PSN and it was a whopping 1814 MB. I wonder how it differs?

I noticed that too. Is it a different version?

Europe's files are usually always bigger because of different languages.

Europe's files are usually always bigger because of different languages.

Thanks, that explains it. I will download our version instead and save a bit of space. This game looks great and seems really well done. Unfortunately, certain games tend to give me motion sickness (don't know if it's the field of view or what) and this happens to be one of them. Sometimes I am able to get used to it, others not. Hope it's the former cause I really enjoy the creepy atmosphere of this demo.

Same demo as the 360 , downloaded and deleted already (ah well) ;) .

- Jason

Definitely intrigued by this as well.

Looking forward to it.

Just played the demo and was not disappointed at all, so I will not cancel my pre-order :D. I was impressed by the graphics, the water reflection when you first start playing in particular.
The sound is really what will really make this title an engrossing experience. I can't wait to fire up the actual game and crank up the sound to hear all the water dripping, sloshing through water, and other little noises. It really adds to the feeling of being enclosed.
I died several times on the regular setting so I know survivor mode is going to be a challenge to say the least. I'll definitely get my money's worth in gameplay for sure! Controls are going to take some getting used to,though. I kept pressing R1 to fire instead of R2:p

I don't really care for the art style/direction old timey theme, but it was pulled off really well, if that makes any sense. I wasn't distracted by it enough to really worry too much about it. How does neon still work underwater:confused:

All in all, it looks like a solid game and I can't wait to pick up my copy and start playing!:D

For those that haven't noticed the game is 1080P! :D

Great! Downloading right now. For anyone who also has the 360 version, do comment whether there's a visible difference (better or worse). Thx.

Originally posted by DaGamePimp
Same demo as the 360 , downloaded and deleted already (ah well);) .
If you already played Bioshock on the 360, why even bother downloading the demo at all? Or maybe you were one of the few 360 owners who havn't played Bioshock yet?;)

I really liked this demo. I love the neon lights, are design, style and audio. When a game gets me shaking from surround like RFOM than it adds a wow factor. I never played before, but will rent it.

If you already played Bioshock on the 360, why even bother downloading the demo at all? Or maybe you were one of the few 360 owners who havn't played Bioshock yet?;)

I played Bioshock on 360 but only played it for a few hours so I wanted to see if the PS3 version (demo) offered anything substantial over the 360 version to justify a purchase ;) .

- Jason

Great! Downloading right now. For anyone who also has the 360 version, do comment whether there's a visible difference (better or worse). Thx.

I just finished playing the demo. I have this game on 360 and to date I have played throught it 4 times, unlocking all the achievements. The game is not perfect but in over 20 years of gaming its one of the few of my all time favourites. Also I had played the PC demo as well with everything maxed out. But the difference between 360 and PS3 are none that I could of tell of. There were a few tech gliches sort of like an underscan but nothing major. I was really looking forward to try the new difficulty level but its not available in demo - its grayed out. I played on normal and I was hoping it'll get unlocked but unfortunately it didnt. So for those who have tryed or played 360 version theres nothing new here.

On the side note the PC demo, maxed out, look much better then the other two. Aside from higher res there were a lot of small detailes that really made it shine. For example, when you look outside the windows theres more things going on in the background - things like more fishes, air bubbles... A small things that realy add up to expirience. I just wish PC version have achievement and higher difficulty level and it would of been a defenitive buy for me.

Thats my 2c, hope it helps.

I just wish PC version have achievement and higher difficulty level and it would of been a defenitive buy for me.

That's easily obtainable with a mod, reallly ups the difficultly level (lets face it all PC games that are designed for consoles as well are dumbed down quite a bit on the difficulty)

http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/bioshock/mod/17311.html

Achievements are much a gimmick to me, set your own "achievements" it helps you in more cases than merely just games.

I think the Demo played very well and looks great. The game's atmoshpere freaks me out. I'm definitely lost on the story as I have no previous knowledge of it (no 360 here). Is that guy/thing on the cover a bad guy?

I think the Demo played very well and looks great. The game's atmoshpere freaks me out. I'm definitely lost on the story as I have no previous knowledge of it (no 360 here). Is that guy/thing on the cover a bad guy?

They'll explain it more in the full game.

I played it all the way through on 360 and I'm still going to at least try the demo. The game is just phenomenal. EASILY in the top 3 of this gen.

Or maybe you were one of the few 360 owners who havn't played Bioshock yet?;)

I own a 360 and i havent played Bioshock yet. but i will be buying for the 360 (becuase used prices are good right now)

-J

Played through the demo last night. I had tried the PC demo briefly months ago, but the odd variable sensitivity of the mouse aiming + my PC not being quite powerful enough turned me off before I even got into the bathysphere. "Wow!" was the recurring theme as I played through it on the PS3. I'm definitely planning to buy this one. The concept, story, environments, graphics and sound are all great.

Other commitments had me waiting until late last night to try this out and my game room is in the basement. Let me tell you, this is a creepy damn game at 1 AM in the total dark with the sound all the way up.

Other commitments had me waiting until late last night to try this out and my game room is in the basement. Let me tell you, this is a creepy damn game at 1 AM in the total dark with the sound all the way up.

that is what I meant by the wow factor of the sub and surrounds, it gives you the chills right? :eek:

Other commitments had me waiting until late last night to try this out and my game room is in the basement. Let me tell you, this is a creepy damn game at 1 AM in the total dark with the sound all the way up.

that is what I meant by the wow factor of the sub and surrounds, it literally puts fear in you and gives you the chills right? :eek:

I played the Bioshock demo and wow! all the memories. For me it looks and sounds almost the same as the Xbox version.
When the full game was released I played it in a PC, so I don't expect to be too impressed by the graphics here. But I've played both demos, for the Xbox and PS3, and both of them look amazing.
I love Bioshock too much, I may buy this game for the PS3!

I played the demo last night and was very impressed. It's a definite buy for me. I did have a problem with hitting R1 when I wanted to club someone or shoot them - but that's something I can get used to. That and I was just in a panic! :)

Wow! Excellent Demo! Love the mood, the graphics and the gameplay. I guess I'm not that bad. I died only once in the standard difficulty level.
I will be picking this one for sure!

Great! Downloading right now. For anyone who also has the 360 version, do comment whether there's a visible difference (better or worse). Thx.

Graphics are almost the same, the PS3 version is just a tad cleaner and sharper but it's only noticeable when switching between the 360(full game) and the PS3 (demo) on the same TV. I'm not sure if my eyes were playing a trick on me but it "seemed" like the PS3 had just a hair more "jaggies", but I'm not 100% sure on this one. The sound is quite better and I noticed a difference right away on my set-up. 1st the game is 7.1 vs 5.1 on the 360 (only people with a 7.1 set-up will care about this one). 2nd the bass is more refined. It's not as boomy and distracting. On the 360 I had to turn down my sub level on my receiver to match it with the rest; it was way too boomy for my taste. It's just as powerful on the PS3 but it's more controlled and just sounds cleaner. Its like switching from DD to TrueHD. 3rd the highs are crispier and cleaner. It sounds better and certain little sounds are heard better and easier. The biggest difference to me was the low frequency improvement and the addition of 7.1. If I didn't own 360 version I'd definitely but this one.

Too bad there isn't a co-op (online/offline) campaign as that would be pretty cool - especially with the combined attack functionality in the game. One person stuns them, the other clubs them - or you set them on fire and when they jump in the water, I electrocute them. Would have been cool in co-op - maybe Bioshock 2 will include something like that. I'm just a big fan of co-op gameplay and have a buddy out of state that we 'visit' while we game.

Just got through the demo...barely survived...and WOW, what an awesome game this is! Didn't know what to expect going in, but there's no way I could have imagined this. I can't believe how incredibly scary and creepy and waaay cool this world is!

I don't know the history, or back-story, of this game, but I picked up on an Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged", vibe right away. The "independent man" slogans...the city itself, as a hidden Atlantis away from the rest of the world...the Rand decade the game's set in...the cigarettes...there's even a character called "Atlas"! Pretty cool for me, as I've been a big fan of Ayn Rand since high school. So in that way, Bioshock feels like an "Atlas Shrugged" gone bad, kind of thing. Which is very compelling.

Apart from the story, the gameplay and game devices are just as effective. The old music is incredibly effective juxtaposed upon the nightmare elements of the game. The fighting/attack elements are intuitive and easy to grasp. The enemies are also creepy as hell. The little girls are especially frightening. Some of the things they say are very cool stylistically, and weird...and scary because of the strangeness. This is definitely a game that'll get your heart pounding. The awesome sound of the game will get it going even more!

All in all, I'm completely blown away by this game...or at least what the demo promises the game to be like. I don't think it's going to be an easy game...I died three times in the short demo. But that's not a bad thing. It was just kinda hard sometimes hard to keep track of the enemies running around, while keeping an eye on my health meter at the same time. I usually play games on the default level (and move my way up in difficulty in subsequent play-throughs), but this one might be a first where I drop it down to the easy level, just so I can enjoy my way around the world more.

Like it stylistically and it appears it has a good story, but again, I just hate FPS on consoles.

Might wait until I can build a PC and grab it in the repo bin.

that said, the demo reminded me of how I felt playing Half Life.

Kess, I would recommend NOT dropping down to easy. The vita chambers make the game easy enough. You die, you respawn - and the enemies remain at the state they were when you died so just go back to them and finish them off. The intensity of the experience would be hindered if you played on easy in my opinion.

You're spot on with the environments, sound, visuals, themes, etc. Among the best of all time in the video game world. Enjoy it! I'm glad PS3 users are finally getting to experience it.

Like it stylistically and it appears it has a good story, but again, I just hate FPS on consoles.

Might wait until I can build a PC and grab it in the repo bin.

that said, the demo reminded me of how I felt playing Half Life.

I'm really surprised, Tyrant, that you don't LOVE this game. I actually thought of you while playing the demo! Because you've been so hard on RE4 not being survival horror, I just thought, "Now THIS is survival horror!" And that you'd really dig it for that. I was spooked, anyway.


Kess, I would recommend NOT dropping down to easy. The vita chambers make the game easy enough. You die, you respawn - and the enemies remain at the state they were when you died so just go back to them and finish them off. The intensity of the experience would be hindered if you played on easy in my opinion.

You make a good point about the vita chambers. Although, I was never really quite sure where I was being put back to, or what the state of my enemies was. It was a little dissoriatating...which I think was what I was probably supposed to feel. I liked the intensity of the combat scenes. It got pretty frenzied with multiple enemies...especially trying to wail on them wildly in dark corners with the pipe wrench! But I suspect it's pretty realistic when it comes to that!

How does the game save? Can you save each time you make it to a vita chamber? Or does the game save you there automatically?

You're spot on with the environments, sound, visuals, themes, etc. Among the best of all time in the video game world. Enjoy it! I'm glad PS3 users are finally getting to experience it.

Just from the demo I'd have to already agree that it's a very incredible game. Breathtaking and scary in presence and theme, and probably one of the best demos I've played in introducing me into a game. It just hits me on a whole new level, and I really wasn't expecting it. Now my only dilemma is: What can I sell so I can afford this game along with the 4 others in October I want to buy!! :p

Will this be $60 at retail? The demo pretty much sold me but I will not be purchasing this until it comes down to 30-ish as a year old port should be.

Will this be $60 at retail? The demo pretty much sold me but I will not be purchasing this until it comes down to 30-ish as a year old port should be.

$60 everywhere I've looked. Not too suprising given the quality of the game and I expect they'll sell extremely well. Now my vote goes for $30 but I share others problems in how to fit yet ANOTHER game into my October budget! :D

I'm really surprised, Tyrant, that you don't LOVE this game. I actually thought of you while playing the demo! Because you've been so hard on RE4 not being survival horror, I just thought, "Now THIS is survival horror!" And that you'd really dig it for that. I was spooked, anyway.

:confused:

Oh, I like it! Referring back to the feeling I got playing HL is a great thing. It's immersive and creepy, and it looks like they pulled out all the stops in production value. I do want this game.

BUT, I'm not fond of FPS on consoles because they're always dumbed down, and slower. I hate controling FPS on console controllers too. SO without KB/M support, it's a deal breaker on the console for me. I'd much rather play this in it's true medium, the PC, to get everything out of it. My problem is I don't currently have a rig that would do it justice, so I'll probably pick it up down the line cheap when I finally build one worthy.

As for Survival Horror, nah. To many weapons, too much ammo, too many baddies.

But it is good Horror / Action / Mystery.

As for Survival Horror, nah. To many weapons, too much ammo, too many baddies.

But it is good Horror / Action / Mystery.

Bump up the difficulty to Survival and you've pretty much got a fantastic survival horror game. But you don't like FPS on consoles. I think it's bizarre that that's what it gets classified as or that it refers to itself that way in the opening sequence in the demo. I didn't think of it as a first-person-shooter at all. Just like I don't classify HL2 as a shooter either. COD4 and Resistance are shooters. This is an adventure game in the first person perspective. Big difference in my book.

Bump up the difficulty to Survival and you've pretty much got a fantastic survival horror game. But you don't like FPS on consoles. I think it's bizarre that that's what it gets classified as or that it refers to itself that way in the opening sequence in the demo. I didn't think of it as a first-person-shooter at all. Just like I don't classify HL2 as a shooter either. COD4 and Resistance are shooters. This is an adventure game in the first person perspective. Big difference in my book.

I couldn't agree more. I was a little suprised this was thrown into the FPS category. It would be the most non-traditional shooter I've played to date based on the demo. Adventure/Horror category is more like it.

Here's a link I found about the connection to Ayn Rand in all this: http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:Se6PIJ2a1lEJ:nomorequo.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-does-bioshock-have-in-common-with.html+bioshock+Ayn+Rand&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7

Like I said, I knew nothing of the backstory of the game going into it, but I immediately recognized Rand's influence around every corner. The article I linked to starts out comparing Bioshock to "The Incredibles" movie, and then reveals the Rand influences in both. It's likely not terribly interesting to most, but I find the whole connection fascinating. It's not very often you come across Ayn Rand these days. However, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are said to be in production talks about making an "Atlas Shrugged" movie. Which might actually be pretty cool!

My eyes melted playing this demo. What a gorgeous game, both in actual appearance and design. Brilliant atmosphere, good voice acting, very curious premise.... I can't wait for this.

I couldn't agree more. I was a little suprised this was thrown into the FPS category. It would be the most non-traditional shooter I've played to date based on the demo. Adventure/Horror category is more like it.

Ok, I'm willing to bend..

FPAH? :)


And yes, I tried the to go for the harder difficulty, but it was not an option. And there's just something about FP perspectives that makes it less SH since you usually have to go through all the baddies, instead of making strategic decisions on when to fight, when to heal, and when to just keep moving.

I remember the Xbox demo had the hardest difficulty grayed-out as well. All you need to do is go into your PS3 settings and change your default difficulty for games to the hardest setting and then restart the demo. At least that worked on the Xbox demo.

On second thought, does the PS3 have a default difficulty setting in its menu anywhere? I don't recall ever setting it.

I've played and beat the Xbox version. I sold it to a friend so that I would feel somewhat justified in buying the PS3 version when it came out. This is an awesome game, some minor disappointments which I am sure some of you will experience, but overall just a phenomenal experience.

Ok, I'm willing to bend..

FPAH? :)


And yes, I tried the to go for the harder difficulty, but it was not an option. And there's just something about FP perspectives that makes it less SH since you usually have to go through all the baddies, instead of making strategic decisions on when to fight, when to heal, and when to just keep moving.

How does the perspective change the approach in play? I made all kinds of strategic decisions just playing through the demo last night. You don't have to kill everyone, pick up every item or any of that. Which in turn just makes it that much more intense when everything goes haywire. I think you're really generalizing it in way too vague a fashion.

And how was the harder difficulty not an option? It's the first thing the demo shows when it boots up.

Ok, I'm willing to bend..

FPAH? :)


And yes, I tried the to go for the harder difficulty, but it was not an option. And there's just something about FP perspectives that makes it less SH since you usually have to go through all the baddies, instead of making strategic decisions on when to fight, when to heal, and when to just keep moving.

It plays very similarly to the old System Shock games on PC and to a lesser extent, Deus Ex. SS2 is freeware, I think, now. Go check it out to see Bioshock's roots. SS2 is also very eerie, but you can focus on stealth and stuff (or whatever you want, really). You'll definitely be making strategic decisions and avoiding fights.

At least he didn't say SOCOM.

or RE4/Gears... ;)

or RE4/Gears... ;)

or Burnout :p

How does the perspective change the approach in play? I made all kinds of strategic decisions just playing through the demo last night. You don't have to kill everyone, pick up every item or any of that. Which in turn just makes it that much more intense when everything goes haywire. I think you're really generalizing it in way too vague a fashion.

And how was the harder difficulty not an option? It's the first thing the demo shows when it boots up.

well, you can't really get away from them, they seem to pursue you at a pretty fast pace forcing you to fight. This kinda game is meant to go through enemies, same as a game like GOW. There's really no benefit or need to flee/sneak like MGS, silent hill, or the old RE's & clocktower. Sure you could try to go around them, but there's no need, nothing forcing that strategy on you, which is typical to SH. Also, you could handicap yourself and not pick up items, but it's obvious that's not the way the games meant to be played. Still the atmosphere is spot on and creepy.

As for difficulty, I only had the option for easy and medium. hard and extreme were grayed out, were they different on your demo?

It plays very similarly to the old System Shock games on PC and to a lesser extent, Deus Ex. SS2 is freeware, I think, now. Go check it out to see Bioshock's roots. SS2 is also very eerie, but you can focus on stealth and stuff (or whatever you want, really). You'll definitely be making strategic decisions and avoiding fights.


thanks, I will! Damn, there's too much gaming to be had recently!

well, you can't really get away from them, they seem to pursue you at a pretty fast pace forcing you to fight. This kinda game is meant to go through enemies, same as a game like GOW. There's really no benefit or need to flee/sneak like MGS, silent hill, or the old RE's & cocktower. Sure you could try to go around them, but there's no need, nothing forcing that strategy on you, which is typical to SH. Also, you could handicap yourself and not pick up items, but it's obvious that's not the way the games meant to be played. Still the atmosphere is spot on and creepy.

As for difficulty, I only had the option for easy and medium. hard and extreme were grayed out, were they different on your demo?




thanks, I will! Damn, there's too much gaming to be had recently!

:eek:

or Burnout :p

:confused::confused::confused:

:eek:

What, you never experienced Cocktower? :p

:eek:

lol :d

Edit: how come my smileys and cap's aren't working {confused look}

What, you never experienced Cocktower? :p

I think that emoticon means he just did! =P

:eek:


:eek:

hahahaha! fixed! I'll blame that on my old keypad, the one where my six eights and nines don't work anymore. Time for a tyrant computer fund.

:(

What, you never experienced Cocktower? :p

That must be one erect tower!

well, you can't really get away from them, they seem to pursue you at a pretty fast pace forcing you to fight. This kinda game is meant to go through enemies, same as a game like GOW. There's really no benefit or need to flee/sneak like MGS, silent hill, or the old RE's & clocktower. Sure you could try to go around them, but there's no need, nothing forcing that strategy on you, which is typical to SH. Also, you could handicap yourself and not pick up items, but it's obvious that's not the way the games meant to be played. Still the atmosphere is spot on and creepy.

Thats only at the start. Later if you run away they dont keeep on chasing you. Without giving away any spoilers, one of the cool abilities that you get after few levels is being able to cloak. And that changes the way you decide to play this game.

For those that haven't noticed the game is 1080P! :D

noticed that also. but screen looks a little soft and washed out. went back and unchecked 1080i and 1080p.
rebooted and played native 720p and it looks great.

BTW the sound thru hdmi av receiver is outstanding, great background effects and music


just call me ace

Thats only at the start. Later if you run away they dont keeep on chasing you. Without giving away any spoilers, one of the cool abilities that you get after few levels is being able to cloak. And that changes the way you decide to play this game.

well thats different then....

glad to see this released on ps3 - i played it from day 1 on xbox. brilliant game that no self-respecting hardcore gamer should be without. the level design, voice acting, story and gameplay are all superb.

no game is perfect and neither is bioshock - but it comes pretty close to perfection, particularly if you've not played system shock 2 ;)

I am not usually into these sort of FPS but it looks fascinating and I think I will buy it. Also don't press START at the beginning of the demo and let the autoplay demo feature takeover after a few minutes. I think its one of the best autoplay demos I have seen for a while. I urge everyone to see it.

I am not usually into these sort of FPS but it looks fascinating and I think I will buy it. Also don't press START at the beginning of the demo and let the autoplay demo feature takeover after a few minutes. I think its one of the best autoplay demos I have seen for a while. I urge everyone to see it.

You are correct, sir. When he tries to stop the Daddy's drill with his palm and you can see it ripping through it....man. For some reason, that really got to me, and I sat through Hostel bored out of my skull..

Hostel was cool for the "hanging eye"... looked like the yoke of an egg. My girlfriend at the time got squeamish so I paused it there until I got smacked upside my head.

...and I sat through Hostel bored out of my skull..

Probably because Hostel was crap.

Probably because Hostel was crap.

Yeah, but it was pretty gory, I was expecting to at least be grossed out.

Yeah, but it was pretty gory, I was expecting to at least be grossed out.

You weren't grossed out because the makeup effects were terrible. When stuff goes that far over the top it usually looks fake and Hostel was no different. I'm still trying to figure out why Quentin Tarantino thinks Eli Roth is the next best thing to sliced bread.

Yeah, but it was pretty gory, I was expecting to at least be grossed out.

Lol. I think Tarantino went so over-the-top that it almost became campy. Not sure why they released Hostel 2 and not sure why I even bothered to watch it.

Anyway, back on topic. How many people have had their mind changed after playing the demo?

Who's buying and who's not?

I know I am buying it, just not sure if it's a day 1 purchase because of the busy period.

Lol. I think Tarantino went so over-the-top that it almost became campy. Not sure why they released Hostel 2 and not sure why I even bothered to watch it.

Anyway, back on topic. How many people have had their mind changed after playing the demo?

Who's buying and who's not?

I know I am buying it, just not sure if it's a day 1 purchase because of the busy period.

I haven't really had my mind changed. The game's been on my radar since it was announced it was coming. I'll be getting it eventually but most likely not on release since LBP and Resistance 2 are right there at pretty much the same time. Bioshock will go on the Christmas list.

I am really disappointed in how this game has turned out on the PS3, it does look noticeably worse, and by worse I mean softer on the PS3


no way am I paying full price for an year old port with worse gfx

Even though this is my first experience of playing bioshock and will buy it after the price comes down, I have noticed the graphics are not as hi def as i thought they should be. It does look like a pc game at times with pixelated/jagged edges when you stop and examine up close the walls. The textures seem to be fake if that makes any sense. Shame really but I do enjoy the demo and will buy it at some point.

There are rumors that the demo is of an older build. There is a bug, which is common amidst console games, with upscaling. You need to force your PS3 to output just 720p. Otherwise you'll get a soft picture.
There are also graphical anomalies that are also present in the demo but reportedly those issues shouldn't be in the retail release.

At least that is what everyone is claiming at the Cult of Rapture forums.
Haven't gotten around to downloading the demo yet.
Best Regards
KvE

Even though this is my first experience of playing bioshock and will buy it after the price comes down, I have noticed the graphics are not as hi def as i thought they should be. It does look like a pc game at times with pixelated/jagged edges when you stop and examine up close the walls. The textures seem to be fake if that makes any sense. Shame really but I do enjoy the demo and will buy it at some point.

To tell you the truth, I didn't really notice if the graphics were stellar or not in the demo. To me, it was more about the style and theme of the game that really affected me. I think the graphics are perfect for this crazy world you're put into. I think all too often, way too much emphasis is put upon what a game looks like, over how much it captivates you.

I definately agree Kess. Its exactly the style, theme and gamplay that has made me decide to buy the game. Having read some earlier posts about the graphics made me play the demo again today and study the graphics up close and personal. I played it at 720p and did not notice any significant differences to when I played it at 1080i - the max my tv outputs.

Oh my!

I just saw these comparison screen shots of the 360 demo v the ps3 demo (not the aforementioned screenshots in an earlier post). They do look much worse. See for yourself. I do hope that this is not final quality and only affects the demo.

See for yourself my slight "sigh" after seeing the pics:

http://consoleupdates.com/2008/10/04/bioshock-ps3-impression/

Go check out the Cult of Rapture forums, some of the 360 shots are actually from the PC, someone else has provided caps from the 360 vs pc shots, interesting.

Best Regards
KvE

To tell you the truth, I didn't really notice if the graphics were stellar or not in the demo. To me, it was more about the style and theme of the game that really affected me. I think the graphics are perfect for this crazy world you're put into. I think all too often, way too much emphasis is put upon what a game looks like, over how much it captivates you.Exactly. When I played Bioshock on 360, at first I was disappointed with the graphics. They aren't technologically very impressive.

But then you realize how awesome the art direction is. "Graphics" is a weird term. If it means the technology behind what we see, Bioshock's graphics aren't all that great. If it means simply how good a game looks, Bioshock's graphics are off the charts.

yup, those are definitely not from the 360.

They're much higher resolution then 720P. GFX are always going to be a bit more muddled for console owners, since the consoles rendering resolution is a tad smaller. TV's wouldn;t be able to display anything higher anyways, so you'd see a similar effect no matter what they did.

Seriously though, if this small difference constitutes saying the games bad \ worse, you're an idiot.

I always found it funny how console owners always seem to be GFX whores, when in reality the consoles offer the least eye pleasing experience. Then on the other hand PC gamers willingly turn down \ off advanced GFX quirks to get the highest FPS out of their rigs.

I'm a PC gamer tired and true, but I buy consoles because they tend to have many games that aren't available for the PC, or aren't tailored to it [crappy ports]. If a game is well done, and provides a great gaming experience, I could care less what art and technical directions they took, as long as it doesn't effect gameplay.

Played through the demo a second time last night and this is a definite must buy for me. The first go through I had a hard time adjusting to the R2 vs R1 attack but it started to gel the second time around. The atmosphere in this game is spooky fun and I'm pretty pumped on running through the entire game when it is released.

As for the graphics, I play on a 120" screen with a 1080p projector and they look very solid. Is it the prettiest HD game I've ever seen? No. But gameplay ALWAYS trumps graphics and this has that in spades....

Did you guys notice a lot of frame rate slowdown?

I felt like when I used the incinerate plasmid, the game slowed down quite a bit. I didn't notice this on the 360, but I only played that version for like 20 minutes, and that was several months ago.

Just curious what your thoughts on this were. The game was a lot of fun, and I think I'll be picking it up this winter :D

Did you guys notice a lot of frame rate slowdown?

I felt like when I used the incinerate plasmid, the game slowed down quite a bit. I didn't notice this on the 360, but I only played that version for like 20 minutes, and that was several months ago.

Just curious what your thoughts on this were. The game was a lot of fun, and I think I'll be picking it up this winter :D

I noticed it in the video at the end, whenever the guy used incinerate it seemed to slow down a little. No problems in the actual demo.