Does anyone use a monoprice wall mount? [Text View]

fireman325

11-20-08, 02:41 PM

i see you have the 5084 like mine. i am interested in the monoprice low profile or tilt as well. Did you end up pulling the trigger.

or any of you with the 5085 from samsung.
How did it fit?
How did it feel? Safe Secure Sturdy?
how was access to cords and cables?

Thanks

I did pull the trigger, and just mounted the TV last night. I went with a tilting mount, #4174.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=4174&seq=1&format=1#largeimage

Fit is excellent and it's solid as a rock. Very easy to mount. There's plenty of room behind the mount for your cables. I think you get about 1 more inch with the tilt model than you do with the flush model. Just hook your cables up before you hang the TV on the wall bracket. Took about 30 minutes, and that's with running my HDMI and power cable in the wall. For that I used this.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042505&p_id=3996&seq=1&format=2

And I know you're not really supposed to run a power cable in the wall. The cables go in the wall through one of the big holes in the wall bracket. I cut the sheetrock out with a holesaw. The 2 cables drop through the (uninsulated) wall about 3 feet and come out that wall plate, before being plugged into my receiver and power conditioner.

I'll post a pic tomorrow when I get back home.

By the way, I had to buy a 10' power cable for the TV to do this. I got it here.

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=914&sku=27909&st=27909

It has the same specs as your factory cable and ended up being $18 and some change with shipping.

armin_t

11-22-08, 09:43 PM

I'll post a pic tomorrow when I get back home.

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fireman325

11-22-08, 10:15 PM

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Sorry. I forgot. Here they are. Not great for detail on the installation process, but the outcome was nice.

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v750/80/46/1568850192/n1568850192_30026860_8351.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v750/80/46/1568850192/n1568850192_30026861_8612.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v750/80/46/1568850192/n1568850192_30026862_8844.jpg

gryhnd

11-22-08, 11:04 PM

I'm using one of their tilting adjustables on my 58" Sammy 5884 (originally purchased for my 61" Infocus which was heavier, but never got a change to try it)...sorry, I can't recall which model. It is rock solid. I did opt for my own lag bolts rather than those included with the mount though, but otherwise no complaints.

eddie501

11-22-08, 11:43 PM

JF7FSU

11-23-08, 01:31 AM

I'm buying the 58" Panasonic as well and wanted to see if anyone was using the Monoprice mounts?

fireman325

11-23-08, 02:04 AM

Fireman - The 4174 mount from Monoprice shows the width of the wall plate as 32" from edge to edge. Can you confirm? I would like to be able to mount across 3 studs, but would need 32" from mounting slot to mounting slot to make that happen. By the way did you mount to 2 studs or 3? Last question...I have a 58" panasonic plasma that weighs almost 140 pounds, do you think this mount is sturdy enough for that?

Yes it is 32", and I only mounted to 2 studs. I used the included lag bolts. I didn't drill the pilot holes the way the directions said to. If I had, I would have broken them trying to screw them in like a lot of other people did. I drilled pilot holes the way you're supposed to. Just a little smaller than the diameter of the screw shaft (not the threads) and nearly the full length of the screw. They're 3" long. They threaded right in with no problems. Lastly, it's very sturdy and can definitely handle more weight than the 107 lbs I put on mine.

eddie501

11-23-08, 10:44 AM

fireman325

11-23-08, 12:48 PM

Thanks for the quick response Fireman. I also found wide mount (3004) and extra wide mount (3401) on monoprice that are 36" and 45" wide respectively. It appears as though these would both be able to span three studs and can each hold up to 165 pounds.

The only thing I'll point out with the wider wall plates is to be careful how you position it on the wall. You have quite a range on motion to slide your TV back and forth, even on the 32" plate, so you can get it "centered" where you want it on the wall. You don't want to get the TV centered, only to have the wall plate visible at one end of the TV.

eddie501

11-23-08, 10:26 PM

The only thing I'll point out with the wider wall plates is to be careful how you position it on the wall. You have quite a range on motion to slide your TV back and forth, even on the 32" plate, so you can get it "centered" where you want it on the wall. You don't want to get the TV centered, only to have the wall plate visible at one end of the TV.

Good point, I will keep that in mind. Thanks.

gryhnd

11-24-08, 08:36 AM

I'm using one of their tilting adjustables on my 58" Sammy 5884 (originally purchased for my 61" Infocus which was heavier, but never got a change to try it)...sorry, I can't recall which model.

Found my original receipt. It was the model 3401

FWIW, since I had gutted the space for my HT, I built up the area the PDP was being mounted to with extra studs. This allowed for a very solid mount.

mycatsnameis

11-24-08, 09:38 AM

Just to echo the ablove, I've installed the 3900 model tilting mount with a 50" plasma and have no complaints whatsoever. In future I would give myself a little more wiggle room with longer cables as it the biggest challenge was dealing with the fact I only have a couple feet of slack to play with but that has nothing to the with the mount, only my own shortsightedness.

I will be replacing the 50 with a 58" likely at some point in the future and am not worried at all about sturdiness. I used the supplied lag bolts with no difficulty. If you are careful with them and predrill properly I don't think you would have any problems.

fireman325

11-24-08, 09:49 AM

eddie501

11-24-08, 05:56 PM

Sorry. I forgot. Here they are. Not great for detail on the installation process, but the outcome was nice.

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v750/80/46/1568850192/n1568850192_30026860_8351.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v750/80/46/1568850192/n1568850192_30026861_8612.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v750/80/46/1568850192/n1568850192_30026862_8844.jpg

Two questions:

Do you have to take the tv down in order to adjust the tilt or can you adjust it on the wall?

Would you post a picture of the side of the tv and wall from an angle to get an idea of how far the tv sits off of the wall? I know you show a close up from the side, but it is difficult to get a sense of perspective.

Thanks.

Air Supply

11-24-08, 06:42 PM

How are you guys hiding your wires?

ThomasV555

11-24-08, 06:50 PM

It depends. A friend of mine got the mount for his Panasonic and I put it in for him. I know what I am doing so it was pretty simple. His neighbor who is also a mutual friend told me privately he wants a mount with less profile in the tilt especially after seeing how it looked from the side.

In the end, they were both happy, but I think the second friend is happier, but who really knows. It usually takes a couple of beers before I say anything too negative about gear that friends purchase.

fireman325

11-24-08, 11:17 PM

How are you guys hiding your wires?

Mine are in the wall. There are two round holes in the wall plate that are 2" in diameter. I cut out the sheetrock behind one using a holesaw and ran the wires in. Down behind the ET stand the wires come out through one of these.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042505&p_id=3996&seq=1&format=2

mycatsnameis

11-25-08, 02:44 PM

How are you guys hiding your wires?

Sorry should have mentioned that mine is installing in a built-in and that I ran the wires from behind the TV down to the cabinet with all the AV gear through standard 2" PVC piping (pre ran a fish cable when the pipe went in to facilitate the cable pull). I budged about 2 feet of slack out either end of the pipe but that was about 50% of what I needed comfortably.

fireman325

11-25-08, 03:36 PM

Two questions:

Do you have to take the tv down in order to adjust the tilt or can you adjust it on the wall?

Would you post a picture of the side of the tv and wall from an angle to get an idea of how far the tv sits off of the wall? I know you show a close up from the side, but it is difficult to get a sense of perspective.

Thanks.

No I don't have to take the TV down to adjust the tilt. I can do that with it on the wall.

I think this pic will show how far it is off the wall.

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v750/80/46/1568850192/n1568850192_30026875_8436.jpg

The picture angle skews perception a little, but it's exactly 3" off the wall. Sorry the print on my tape measure is upside down.

sumavguy

11-25-08, 05:11 PM

I'll be installing my friends plasma this weekend, and want to run the wires through the wall, do you guys use any kind of wire wrap or bendable race way behind the wall?

fireman325

11-25-08, 05:46 PM

I'll be installing my friends plasma this weekend, and want to run the wires through the wall, do you guys use any kind of wire wrap or bendable race way behind the wall?

I didn't, but I also only have 2 cords, a power cable and an HDMI cable. You may want to check your local codes and see what is the proper way in your area to run the cables in the wall.

eddie501

11-25-08, 07:00 PM

No I don't have to take the TV down to adjust the tilt. I can do that with it on the wall.

I think this pic will show how far it is off the wall.

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v750/80/46/1568850192/n1568850192_30026875_8436.jpg

The picture angle skews perception a little, but it's exactly 3" off the wall. Sorry the print on my tape measure is upside down.

Thanks. This picture is exactly what I needed. Monoprice says 4" off the wall in their description, but your picture shows otherwise.

fireman325

11-25-08, 07:20 PM

Thanks. This picture is exactly what I needed. Monoprice says 4" off the wall in their description, but your picture shows otherwise.

I will tell you that the TV has a very slight tilt to it. There's about 1/2" difference from top to bottom. 3 1/4" at the top, and 2 3/4" at the bottom. Not enough to bother me, but you might not like it.

eddie501

11-26-08, 10:03 AM

For anyone that is interested, I ordered the wide adjustable tilting wall mount from Monoprice (product 3004). The wall plate on this mount is about 36" long and spans 3 studs at 16" OC. I had to drill holes through the plate for the center stud, because the stock holes didn't line up. I will post pics later of the plate attached to the wall if anyone is interested.

I have not yet mounted the TV to the plate as I still need to install a new outlet first....so I can not vouch for how sturdy the bracket is yet.

FYI..I am using this plate for my Panasonic plasma th58pz800U which weighs in at about 137 pounds.

eddie501

11-26-08, 11:49 AM

mycatsnameis

11-26-08, 12:17 PM

I'll be installing my friends plasma this weekend, and want to run the wires through the wall, do you guys use any kind of wire wrap or bendable race way behind the wall?

See my post above.

ThomasV555

12-01-08, 08:55 PM

eddie501

12-01-08, 09:17 PM

Power cords in wall are against code in almost every state if not all, but who is checking your home right?

The mount sticks out a little bit. I am a stickler about efficiency in a home, so I would never leave those holes completely open. There is a chance the wire could pull back in there.

There's 2 other issues I do not see addressed, but basically looks like a good job for all intents and purposes.

Not sure if you were referencing my post, but those aren't power cords in the wall, they are 3 HDMI cables to connect to the three HDMI inputs on back of the Panasonic. I will be installing a new outlet right below the mount wall plate in the next day or so for TV power cable. The holes are in interior wall with no insulation, so I am not worried about efficiency etc.

The back of the TV wil sit off the wall about 3.5" once mounted...so I guess it does stick out a little bit.

What are the 2 other issues?

fireman325

12-01-08, 09:27 PM

Power cords in wall are against code in almost every state if not all, but who is checking your home right?

The mount sticks out a little bit. I am a stickler about efficiency in a home, so I would never leave those holes completely open. There is a chance the wire could pull back in there.

There's 2 other issues I do not see addressed, but basically looks like a good job for all intents and purposes.

I would never tell anyone to violate their local building codes, but after 12 years in my profession, I can't imagine why some things are regulated like they are and others are not. I've seen a number of houses burn down over the years due to these things being maxed out in a number of different applications, yet you can use them all you want.

http://climate.sdstate.edu/howto/vrg101/AC%20SURGE%20STRIP.JPG

Never seen one of the good ones fail though. I've also never seen a case of a fire because there was a power cable that disappeared into a noninsulated wall for 3' before re-emerging to be plugged in. Of course, because there is no such thing as common sense, I guess you have to be able to keep people from running 100' undersized power cables in their insulated walls and through their attics.

By the way, what are the other 2 unaddressed issues you see?

ThomasV555

12-02-08, 04:53 AM

Fireman, I did snort a little bit when I saw your nick and the advice to run the power cord in-wall, but it is your home. :)

fireman325

12-02-08, 06:49 AM

Fireman, I did snort a little bit when I saw your nick and the advice to run the power cord in-wall, but it is your home. :)

Again, I'm not advising anyone to violate their local codes. I'm just showing what I personally did with my own setup.

plmn

12-02-08, 11:08 AM

I would never tell anyone to violate their local building codes, but after 12 years in my profession, I can't imagine why some things are regulated like they are and others are not. I've seen a number of houses burn down over the years due to these things being maxed out in a number of different applications, yet you can use them all you want.

Never seen one of the good ones fail though. I've also never seen a case of a fire because there was a power cable that disappeared into a noninsulated wall for 3' before re-emerging to be plugged in. Of course, because there is no such thing as common sense, I guess you have to be able to keep people from running 100' undersized power cables in their insulated walls and through their attics.

I thought the same thing, but ended up using this: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042505&p_id=4652&seq=1&format=1#largeimage

My main concern was with insurance and inspection when I sell the house down the road. Not really a practical reason to do it that I can figure. In fact by adding 4 connection points it is probably a bit less safe in reality. But it was pretty simple and inexpensive.

The Monoprice solution worked OK but I did break a tab and the bottom plate is upside down when mounted so the electrical and low voltage don't cross. I ended up cutting off most of the "hood" to make running the low voltage easier. I also had quite a bit of trouble finding a cord that fit into the recessed outlet on the bottom plate but was still shallow enough to allow my console to sit close to the wall. The included one sticks out over 2" which can be a problem if your furniture below it has a solid back.

fireman325

12-02-08, 11:22 AM

I considered one of those but ultimately decided against it because I have all my components plugged into a power conditioner. Also I want to clarify that I didn't rig a power receptical inside my wall that the TV power cable plugs into. I also want to stress that I did this in an uninsulated wall. I would have never have even considered doing what I did in an insulated wall. My power cable drops into the wall behind the TV and then about 3'-4' below comes out one of these before being plugged into the power conditioner.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042505&p_id=3996&seq=1&format=1#largeimage

Again I want to stress the point that I'm not encouraging people to disregard their local building codes. This is a decision I made for my personal system in my own home with only my own set of circumstances and considerations in mind.

eddie501

12-02-08, 11:29 AM

plmn

12-02-08, 11:37 AM

I considered one of those but ultimately decided against it because I have all my components plugged into a power conditioner.

I understand what you are saying about not advising against building code, but I'm curious about one thing: What makes the romex safer than the TV cord when a power conditioner is not used? The TV cord seems to be a thicker gauge and better insulated, the main difference being one is stranded and one is solid.

fireman325

12-02-08, 11:47 AM

I understand what you are saying about not advising against building code, but I'm curious about one thing: What makes the romex safer than the TV cord when a power conditioner is not used? The TV cord seems to be a thicker gauge and better insulated, the main difference being one is stranded and one is solid.

I honestly don't know. I do understand the reasoning behind the codes though. You don't want people running undersized, and too-long power cords in their walls (as eddie mentions above). For example, cords like the ones below are not meant for permanent use, and can overheat and start a fire if not used properly.

http://www.asubookstores.com/collegecomforts/images/items/extension%20cord.jpg

I'm not at all worried about what I did in my own situation, but it's probably not a safe option for everybody out there.

plmn

12-02-08, 12:02 PM

I should clarify that I didn't mean to imply the romex is safer in this situation. Since it is code it is just assumed I guess.

I do think it's more important that people understand that the code exists and the reasons behind it rather than what the absolute safest way to do it is.

Again, the main reason I used the Monoprice solution was because of insurance. People have argued whether or not that's an issue, but I'm pretty sure if I would have called my insurer and asked it probably would have been. :rolleyes:

I wasn't concerned for safety, but about "what if" coverage scenarios. Probably a bit paranoid, but it wasn't a big deal to put it in either.

fireman325

12-02-08, 12:13 PM

hammondc

12-03-08, 12:02 PM

has anyone actually hung a 58" Pannasonic on the extending mount from Monoprice?
Linky (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=3725&seq=1&format=2)

I will have it for access only and it will stay retracted 99% of the time. Just a bit concerned because I have not seen where someone actually mounted a TV this heavy on it.

hammondc

12-03-08, 08:37 PM

bump

astrovirus

12-17-08, 05:22 PM

PeteG

12-20-08, 10:14 AM

Hammondc,

I've got this exact wall-mount ready to put up Friday when my TH58PZ800U is to be delivered. I've reinforced the mounting area and will be using 4 and 1/2 inch lag screws instead of the 3 inch ones with the kit. Other than that I'm impressed with the mount out of the box and have high hopes it'll work great. I'll let you know if I get any sag or run into issues.

Same here, picked up longer lag bolts and bigger washers. I drilled a extra hole for another lag bolt right in the middle of the other two, make sure you predrilled the studs first. Been hang'n for five days no problem.

avnuttyguy

12-20-08, 11:06 AM

ehyo

12-20-08, 05:17 PM

Yah im a bit concerned with such extremely low prices with monoprice. yes i know price does not equal quality, but it has me worried like avnuttyguy.

i mean $30 for a wall mount? thats so tempting.

ssabripo

12-20-08, 05:31 PM

astrovirus

12-20-08, 08:49 PM

I hung my 58" Panny from the monoprice 3725 mount yesterday. Again, I used 4 1/2" lag screws and mounted into 6x6 reinforced framing. I experienced no initial sag and not even a "creak" when hanging the television. I've had the mount extended, swiveled, and tilted several times while getting everything plugged in and lined up. There is no way that this mount will fail in its current configuration thru normal use. The only downside is that extending a 58" plasma by hand is not easy as the articulating points are extremely stiff (as they should be to avoid the television "floating" out from the wall) and takes some muscle, or two people, to move easily. Aside from the reasonable price point, I would still recommend this model to hang a TH-58PZ800U.

Scamallite

12-20-08, 10:36 PM

I have the 3610 low profile i'm using with my panny 50pz85u and its a great value.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082807&p_id=3610&seq=1&format=2

mycatsnameis

12-21-08, 02:06 AM

avnuttyguy

12-21-08, 12:23 PM

Don't worry, no one here will mind if you want to spend $200 on an HDMI cable either ...

MEOW!!! HISS HISS... :rolleyes:
See, I knew it wouldn't take long for the "monoprice" people to come at me.

Seems to me this post is more of an "advertisment" for monoprice!

Actually you didn't read my post very well, I DID buy my HDMI cable from MP, and yes, saved allot of money over BB or CC, I'm not stuipd!

The reason for my post was NOT to put down the MP mount, just BUYER BEWARE! They, monoprice mounts, have not been UL or agency tested.
That is a BIGGIE as a consumer, even though it works fine now, what type of metals were used at what temps/hardening ect...
Will the metals fail after time and stress? Metals do fail and become brittle, but not if the correct materials and tempering is done.
How long have these mounts been on the market?
UL has specific levels of materials and how a product is made to make certain it is safe for the appplication intended.
All I'm suggesting is, look at all the major mount mfg.'s, they all have UL CSA listing/certifications! For a reason too, to make it SAFE and avoid lawsuits from failed products.

It's more expensive to take a product through testing, tens-of-thousands of dollars. MP may have elected not to spend the $$,$$$.$$ to verify the level of performance and safety of materials and methods of making them, so they can be so under priced. As a consumer and the OP asking about them, it should be important to note what your getting and how it was not tested by any recognized testing used for millions of products in the world.
Call monoprice and see what they say, maybe they have better answers for you to feel comfortable for the long run of their mount. Maybe they are made to the exact same standards as the "big" name brands.

As to HDMI cables; they are apparently not REQUIRED to have UL, so no problem as a consumer trusting duribility and safety performance they either work or don't, no biggie.

Go monoprice! great company for bargins and saving money on products we all need as AV nuts. There, I plugged monoprice, I did buy my HDMI cable from them, and it works just fine.

Merry Christmas

mycatsnameis

12-21-08, 11:31 PM

Heh just havin a little fun with ya. All teh points you make are certainly logical and require some consideration for anyone purchasing a mount. I agree that it would provide more peace of mind to have a mount that had been tested and certified by an independent body.

OTOH, do the other mount manufacturers provide liability coverage in the event that their mount fails (and is it straightforward to claim)? It's nice to have a "Certified" mount but if it fails and you just end up with a broken but still certified mount, I'm not sure whether that would make me feel any better. Of course the certification process would likely mean that the incidence of failure might be lower.

I guess in the end, I have more trust in MP that they are continuing to source quality product from OEMs who supply the big guys and that these products are made to the same or similar standards. That may be misguided of course. I've put up two plasmas with mounts from MP. A 50" Norcent on a 3900 (hey the kids have to watch TV too and they don't seem to care about the IR from SD content :)) and a Panny 58" 850 on a 3725. That's the heaviest duty tilt and swivel mount they make. Ordinarily I would not consider an articulating arm mount as leverage can't help but make them weaker than a fixed mount but I had to squeeze this screen into a very tight space and there was just no way I could have used a fixed mount. Just hung it today and I was very impressed with the build quality and weight (FWIW). There is some play with the screen about 8" from the wall but that is to be expected. The 3900 is absolutely rock solid as I would expect a fixed mount to be. Monday my 111FD arrives and it will be mounted on a low profile 3610.

My personal feeling is that the quality/prep of the wall and mounting fasteners is more likely to play a role in any mounts that come off the wall. My Pio is going on a wall that had doubled studs and ply reinforcement before the drywall went up. Switching the MP lags for stainless steel will cost me almost as much as the mount but I think that will give me more peace of mind than knowing whether the mount itself was certified. Given a choice in a comparable price range I would choose a certified mount but it is not worth 10-20x the price to me. JMHO.

Merry Christmas

gmitran

12-22-08, 12:00 PM

eddie501

12-22-08, 01:34 PM

I have had my 58 inch Panasonic 800U on a MP 3004 tilt mount for about 30 days now and it is as solid as the day I put it up. The set is still level and hasn't moved at all. It is a little unnerving to hang a $3,000 TV on a $30 mount, but so far so good. BTW the mount is on an interior 2 x 6 wall with OSB shear reinforcement. I secured the mount to 3 studs using the wide mount with included hardware and drilled holes in the middle of the mount wall plate for the center stud.

avnuttyguy

12-22-08, 09:27 PM

I obviously have struck a cord with all the "pro-monoprice" folks. Sorry, not trying to make enemies, just making a fact noted.

Again, I'm NOT saying the MP mounts are bad or will fall off walls or become out-of-alignment. Any improperly installed mount could do any of those things.

All the issues mentioned are all installation related, not circumstances of materials and manufacturing quality.

Not having critical products tested certified to a industry standard for intended use, is just nothing short of a company not complying with safety standards for materials and methods of manufacturing to save money just to sell at a lower price.
Testing is just not the mount itself, but 4 times per year the product, the factory, packaging all are reviewed. The materials used, the hardware, the moving parts are all tested to make sure they don't fail and are made consistantly to the intended use standard.

Has anyone called MP and asked them about this as I did? Maybe I just was not talking to the right person.
However, I'm not going to take any risks for my family and my investments I have in my TV of a HIGHER possibility that a monoprice mount MIGHT FAIL down the road, due to material failure, NOT that it will become off-level, or FALL off the wall, that would be my fault for not installing it correctly.
Now, if the LAG BOLTS they include are not to spec, then again a POSSIBLE problem that could be dangerous. Sanus and Omnimount don't use just any stock bolt off the shelf I'm sure, because UL makes them use a specific bolt designed for the intended use.
Does anyone know FOR SURE the monoprice bolts, materials they use are to spec. for the intended use?

Come on people, these are made in ASIA,,, made cheap to sell cheap with probably the cheapest materials available, not unlike many products we all use, but if they are not being tested, then who knows what you're getting really.
Monoprice obviously has the lead in lowest price, and they can do that by finding the lowest cost of manufacturing in asia, nothing wrong with that, we can all save money buying things like wall plates and cables from them, because those things are not going to possibly cause any dangerous situation, but somethings like wall mounts hanging a 40-140 pound TV, are not worth taking a risk.

I'm happy to hear the mounts up a year later are still good, that's great and so far you saved $100! Good buy so far! To each their own, and all I'm saying is you usually get what you pay for, cheap, actually really cheap as with the monoprice mounts, may not always the best investment in the long run.

I'll take the insurance my Sanus mount is every bit as good, or MAYBE better made and if it falls off my wall it's my fault for not installing right.

Merry Christmas

audiovideogeek

12-23-08, 05:40 AM

I recently bought a Panny 58PZ800 and a MonoPrice wall mount (ID:3725). Mounted it a couple of days ago and it works great. Unfortunately for me, there is a bit of wobble when I physically touch the display (i.e. if I press buttons or insert an SD card that will induce a bit of wobble). Otherwise, all is good. I used the standard lag bolts but I don't think that changing the lag bolts will make it wobble any less as it seems it has more to do with the sag of the aluminum bars and how they are attached to the mounting plate. Is there something I should do that might reduce the wobble? I'm not concerned that the display will fall of or anything but it is a little unnerving to have the TV wobble so much when one tries to press buttons.

JChin

12-23-08, 05:47 AM

brettvdi

12-23-08, 09:06 AM

This (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042505&p_id=4652&seq=1&format=2) is a great solution for running power through the wall to the conditioner. It's from monoprice as well.

I ordered the same mount as you and it's great. No problems other than the washers being the wrong size. I had to notch them to fit them in the bracket. My TV is 42" and weighs 82lbs... untill I decide on what 50" I want :)

audiovideogeek

12-23-08, 10:41 AM

Did you check to see if any of your video or power cable are slightly pinched against the bracket and mount?

Yup, I made sure that no cables are getting in the way. Both the HDMI Cable and the Power Cable connections are located below the brackets.

mycatsnameis

12-23-08, 11:27 AM

mycatsnameis

12-23-08, 11:37 AM

I obviously have struck a cord with all the "pro-monoprice" folks. Sorry, not trying to make enemies, just making a fact noted.

Well not really and I certainly wouldn't consider you an enemy, "Monoprice apologist" is not a line on my business card. You raise valid points although I think it would be informative if you could provide links so the rest of us could learn as much as you clearly have about the certification process, which companies use it, which don't etc. Also, you imply that Monoprice is the only company having mounts produced in Asia. That seems rather unlikely at best and perhaps a little jingoistic at worst ...

audiovideogeek

12-23-08, 03:04 PM

That's what I was alluding to in my post re: the 3750 and the 58" 850. With an articulating mount, I can't see how you could avoid at least some flex due to leverage.

That I understand.. I mean it is a 131lb TV after all so there will likely be some wobble :p. It is just a little unnerving when it wobbles everytime you try and change settings by pressing the buttons.

04ctd

12-23-08, 08:29 PM

you imply that Monoprice is the only company having mounts produced in Asia. That seems rather unlikely at best and perhaps a little jingoistic at worst ...

if you look around the same Mounts MP sells for ~$30 are on sale for $79 and $119 and.....on and on....even the SAME part number is twice as much on other Sites.

Just GOOGLE "4174 mount"
and you get: Price: $100.00

unless you buy a brand name (sanus maybe) from a box store where you can put your greasy hands on it, you are just buying a "pig in a poke"

i ordered the 3900 for my 50, and from the above posts, i got a decent mount, but I may need to get better lag bolts from Home Depot (hey, how do i know which bolts are made in Asia....?)

this is a valid thread. for my 02 cents, i think if the 3900 feels flimsy to ME, i will go feel of a $150 mount at one of the box stores.

if i like that better, i will sell the MP mount on craigslist for $50. ;)

YMMV.

avnuttyguy

12-23-08, 10:08 PM

Well not really and I certainly wouldn't consider you an enemy, "Monoprice apologist" is not a line on my business card. You raise valid points although I think it would be informative if you could provide links so the rest of us could learn as much as you clearly have about the certification process, which companies use it, which don't etc. Also, you imply that Monoprice is the only company having mounts produced in Asia. That seems rather unlikely at best and perhaps a little jingoistic at worst ...

catnameis...Glad to hear I'm not making an enemy! I think you took my "made in Asia" wrong. Nothing wrong with made in China/Asia... My issue is when products made overseas, without having testing done especially for products that have a high possible failure or material manufacturing concerns. It doesn't matter where ever it's made, testing for the US market for safety is important to me and it should be for you, maybe not.

This (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042505&p_id=4652&seq=1&format=2) is a great solution for running power through the wall to the conditioner. It's from monoprice as well.QUOTE]

I think the monoprice version of the actual Powerbridge is fine, but it is more expensive and you need to purchase the junction boxes seperatly. Try this AVS member price link instead. http://www.powerbridgesolution.com/avsspecialorder.html comes in other colors and they have one that has av connections on it too. either the actual Powerbridge unit or the MP unit is better than just putting the power cord in the wall.

[QUOTE=audiovideogeek;15366528]That I understand.. I mean it is a 131lb TV after all so there will likely be some wobble :p. It is just a little unnerving when it wobbles everytime you try and change settings by pressing the buttons.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??? Really, you're OK with a "wobble" NO WAY brother! This is what I'm talking about, especially on an articulating pull away mount with moving parts and joints. NO WAY in H%ll would I keep that mount! Good luck with that, hope all works out in the long run and saving a few buck is worth it!

Ok, now I'm sure I've upset the apple cart now! Sorry just had to call it as I read 'em....

Merry Christmas,,, again...

colossus

12-24-08, 01:01 PM

Will the metals fail after time and stress? Metals do fail and become brittle, but not if the correct materials and tempering is done.

Nope, and not for the reasons you speculate about either. Me, I'd worry about creep, but these brackets are a little too beefy for a 40# load per point to worry about that.

I'm far more worried about four lag bolts holding in a kitchen cabinet with at least a combined 150# load of dishes, glasses, and cabinet. And each of those bolts anchors a wooden stick 2" x 1" in size.

I realize most of what you've posted is speculation, so take my reply for what it's worth. Most of this discussion regarding brackets is academic; it's only a problem when it's not installed correctly.

avnuttyguy

12-24-08, 02:12 PM

I realize most of what you've posted is speculation, so take my reply for what it's worth. Most of this discussion regarding brackets is academic; it's only a problem when it's not installed correctly.

I could not agree more! Speculation is the problem. As a consumer who purchases a product that is intended for a specific use it should be TRUSTED that it will. When companies like MP make products to sell in a market place so much cheaper than others, you have to question the integrity of that company and product. MP does not have any testing information regarding their mounts, although they make the "claim" of weight load, and probably will and do.

What concerns me is when several posters say they "wobble" or Creak, that should not be happening. Do you speculate that the MP mount wil absolutly not fail? Then perhaps with respect to you and others your trusting in MP and their manufacture and all the suppliers of materials and parts.

Me,,, I'm NOT OK with that and buyer beware and make their own decisions as to speculation and trust of NON TESTED products.

Hey, I'm OK with that, it's a free world, just remnember all the product recalls out there because of trusting and speculation that many have suffered consequences from.

Just my opinion.

audiovideogeek

12-25-08, 01:17 AM

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??? Really, you're OK with a "wobble" NO WAY brother! This is what I'm talking about, especially on an articulating pull away mount with moving parts and joints. NO WAY in H%ll would I keep that mount! Good luck with that, hope all works out in the long run and saving a few buck is worth it!

Ok, now I'm sure I've upset the apple cart now! Sorry just had to call it as I read 'em....

Merry Christmas,,, again...

It's actually not that bad but at the same time its not exactly preferrable. I do think I'm going to keep the mount though because for the most part the mount is in the retracted position and as a result, it has incredible shearing strength and the possibility of the mount failing and my TV crashing to earth is highly unlikely. If it did ofcourse, it would most likely bring most of my living room wall with it :P. I looked at the Omnimount UCL-XB but unfortunately its not available in Canada and seems like a pain to get shipped from the US so I'm going to stick with the Monoprice mount for now.

mycatsnameis

12-25-08, 01:30 AM

That I understand.. I mean it is a 131lb TV after all so there will likely be some wobble :p. It is just a little unnerving when it wobbles everytime you try and change settings by pressing the buttons.

The home theatre guy who I bought my 850 from was by yesterday (to deliver my 111FD - yay!) and had a look at the 850 install I had done with the articulated mount. Was extremely impressed as we had put it in a space that had about 1.5" clearance all around. He had offered to sell me a Sanus mount when I bought the TV but when I told him I was buying a monoprice mount he acknowledged immediately that it was good and I should not worry about getting a Sanus. I showed him the amount of play on the 850 and he said that was exactly what you would expect with any extendable mount.

Dubz4lif3

12-25-08, 01:56 AM

i used a Monoprice mount and works perfectly and great price!

colossus

12-27-08, 09:49 PM

What concerns me is when several posters say they "wobble" or Creak, that should not be happening. Do you speculate that the MP mount wil absolutly not fail? Then perhaps with respect to you and others your trusting in MP and their manufacture and all the suppliers of materials and parts.

Me,,, I'm NOT OK with that and buyer beware and make their own decisions as to speculation and trust of NON TESTED products.

Hey, I'm OK with that, it's a free world, just remnember all the product recalls out there because of trusting and speculation that many have suffered consequences from.

Just my opinion.

Yeah, but I'd expect to see posts here or at other sites about MP mounts failing. MP will totally lose the 'word of mouth' they earned here and at other sites, and soon enough they'll lose the business, and deservedly so.

I haven't looked, but to be honest, the $40 bracket I bought, rated for 163#, is fine for my $3100 122# Samsung. My suspicion is their brackets are rebadged and made for MP by the same company. My father has the identical bracket supporting his PN50A650, and that's nearly 100# as well.

I'm not using a telescoping bracket but then again, I don't need one. If it's wobbling, that's due to undamped motion, not necessarily due to a bad or weak bracket. Moving 120+ pounds 18" away from a wall mount puts an awfully serious load on stuff and if it's bouncing, nothing short of a piston damper is gonna dissipate the load. Hold 120 pounds at arm's length and see how hard it is! :)

I can remove the dampers from a $750,000 Ferrari and it'll do the same thing if I push one end of the car down. That doesn't mean it's a cheap car, nor badly engineered.

My take is that a lot of places are pulling a Monster and overcharging for what really is about $20 of stamped and formed sheet metal. I can't imagine what the markup on these things is, but I am confident MP is still making a tidy profit.

Mike_WI

12-29-08, 10:24 AM

Mike_WI

12-29-08, 11:29 AM

Good thread.

I just bought a Toshiba 42" XV545 LCD for placing in a cabinet above a bar.
(I'll try to include pics).
My reason for using a mount is to allow access behind TV to mount a cable box, etc.

I was looking at Monoprice mounts -- the 3724 -- but now I wonder about the 3725 (aluminum) or others (eg 4926 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=4926&seq=1&format=2)). The are all back ordered at this point. My TV should arrive from Amazon on Tue or Wed. The carpenter who built my basement (framing) and bar will help me install it and the studs are in known positions (from photos prior to cabinet added to wall).

Questions:
- why is aluminum better than steel mounts (3724 @ $56 vs. 3725 @ $78). The price differential isn't a concern, just want to know.
- which Monoprice LCD TV mount? 3724 3725 4926 for my application?

Thanks.

Mike
From Monoprice tech support:

Howard H (Level 3):
PID# 3724 uses hollow steel bars for the construction of it''''s cantilever arms.
PID# 3725 uses solid aluminum bars for the arms.
Though both have the same rated wieght capacity, the steel arms have slightly more flex resulting in a little more sag when mounting the largest displays.
The solid aluminum construction of PID# 3725 makes it perfect for larger LCD''''s and Plasmas.
you: Ok. So I would take the 3725 over 3724.
you: What about the 4926?
Howard H (Level 3): PID# 4926 is a single arm design. It has a longer reach but less weight capacity.

The 4926 doesn't have an ETA, so I'll likley get the 3725.
The TV is 54# so anything should likely be okay.
The VESA pattern should work as well.

I also asked them to comment on this thread to add any info to the good questions and speculation.

Mike

eddie501

12-29-08, 11:53 AM

From Monoprice tech support:

Howard H (Level 3):
PID# 3724 uses hollow steel bars for the construction of it''''s cantilever arms.
PID# 3725 uses solid aluminum bars for the arms.
Though both have the same rated wieght capacity, the steel arms have slightly more flex resulting in a little more sag when mounting the largest displays.
The solid aluminum construction of PID# 3725 makes it perfect for larger LCD''''s and Plasmas.
you: Ok. So I would take the 3725 over 3724.
you: What about the 4926?
Howard H (Level 3): PID# 4926 is a single arm design. It has a longer reach but less weight capacity.

The 4926 doesn't have an ETA, so I'll likley get the 3725.
The TV is 54# so anything should likely be okay.
The VESA pattern should work as well.

I also asked them to comment on this thread to add any info to the good questions and speculation.

Mike

Just a heads up....your outlet and cable junction boxes look like they are right where the wallplate for the mount will attach. This may cause you some issues.

04ctd

12-29-08, 01:04 PM

welp, at least ole Howard was awake & spoke english, and it sounds like he was actually VERY knowledgeable about his product. that's 3 "up checks" in my book.

i looked around at the new "HHgregg" store over lunch.
their mount prices were same as other big box stores.

my MP mount should be today, does anyone want me to take the micrometer to it, and see how thick the metal is? detailed pics?

I have no doubt the mounts MP sells for a reasonable profit (quantity) are the same you buy elsewhere for an extravagant profit.

shop wisely & frugally

Mike_WI

12-29-08, 01:17 PM

Just a heads up....your outlet and cable junction boxes look like they are right where the wallplate for the mount will attach. This may cause you some issues.
Argh.
Thanks for the comment.
I'll have to look at it some more.

Mike

Mike_WI

12-29-08, 06:36 PM

Just a heads up....your outlet and cable junction boxes look like they are right where the wallplate for the mount will attach. This may cause you some issues.

Monoprice Product ID 3725 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=3725&seq=1&format=2)

http://images.monoprice.com/productmediumimages/37251.jpg (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=3725&seq=1&format=1#largeimage)

http://av123forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27480&stc=1&d=1228078826

Range of Motion -

Tilt: -15 to +15 degree up and down.
Swivel: -60 to +60 degree side to side
Extension from wall: about 5" to 20"

Is there enough flexibility in the mount (shown above with link) to fit the wall plate under the outlets in my bar above?

Mike

eddie501

12-29-08, 06:59 PM

Monoprice Product ID 3725 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=3725&seq=1&format=2)

http://images.monoprice.com/productmediumimages/37251.jpg (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=3725&seq=1&format=1#largeimage)

http://av123forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27480&stc=1&d=1228078826

Range of Motion -

Tilt: -15 to +15 degree up and down.
Swivel: -60 to +60 degree side to side
Extension from wall: about 5" to 20"

Is there enough flexibility in the mount (shown above with link) to fit the wall plate under the outlets in my bar above?

Mike

What are the dimensions of the opening in your furniture? How far from the bottom and sides are the junction boxes? Do you want the TV centered in the space?

eddie501

12-29-08, 07:01 PM

By the way, nice set up Mike.

Mike_WI

12-29-08, 07:18 PM

By the way, nice set up Mike.
eddie501 -

Thanks.
I admit that I wasn't considering mounting positions when the cabinets were designed/built.

Mike

daMaster

12-29-08, 07:56 PM

AlanRC

12-30-08, 07:21 AM

Don't remember if this is a monoprice mount or not, but I can tell you it was 'cheap' and I bought it online, so it very well could be, this set has been up since Feb. with no issues.

'see next post for pictures' , I have to have 3 posts.ugh!!

-Alan

AlanRC

12-30-08, 07:21 AM

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/8ef67b36cc.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/24cde1ea0e.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Mike_WI

12-30-08, 08:13 AM

What are the dimensions of the opening in your furniture? How far from the bottom and sides are the junction boxes? Do you want the TV centered in the space?

eddie501 -

I showed the picture and mount to my carpenter and he agrees with you that it might be a problem.
I'm at work now and don't have the dimensions on hand, but will post soon.
:confused:

Yes, I want the TV centered -- I think it would look weird otherwise.
Thanks again for your comments.

Another option would be just using the stand (if it will fit) and getting help to pull the TV out to install the SA8300HD cable box and pull an IR repeater around.

Mike

PS - the 3725 is still listed as "Estimated Time Arrival: 12/30/2008". We'll see if this "opens up" today.

mycatsnameis

12-30-08, 12:57 PM

I just mounted a Panny 58" 850 with a 3725. Will try to post some pics. FYI, although it is sold out at Monoprice, I bought mine from onlybestrated.com (they resell some Monoprice products) as it was in stock and in Canada (therefore shipping was less for me).

With the Cdn exchange rate where it is, you might find this to come out comparably priced to MP after shipping if you are not willing to wait for it if MP pushes back teh arrival date.

For Canadian buyers this is also a great place to pick up Oppo products as well.

Mike_WI

12-30-08, 01:05 PM

04ctd

12-30-08, 01:13 PM

Argh.
Thanks for the comment.
I'll have to look at it some more.

Mike

you might be able to put the cross bar high, and put the mounts high, i had a bit of flexibility in where/how to mount the TV on the mount.

although it is sold out at Monoprice, I bought mine from onlybestrated.com (they resell some Monoprice products)

if you google the 4 digit PN, and the word MOUNT, they are sold a lot of places.

my MP box came in an box with MP printed all over it, so you would know if it came from MP.

here's a really dumb questions, but how far apart are the studs in your house?

16 inches, right?

well, WHY is the mount 32 INCHES long!?!?!?!

it basically physically prevents you from mouting it on three studs,
unless you grind a hole in the end, and put a big fender washer on the bolts on the end.

i could have hit three studs if the mount was longer, but only got 2.

my studs were off the center of my fireplace by about 2 inches, but the TV mounts were 27 inches a apart.

I could have centered the mounting plate on three studs for maximum strength, an then slid the TV to the center of the fireplace.

Mike_WI

12-30-08, 01:18 PM

FYI...

First of all, thank you for choosing Monoprice.com. The following item is now back in stock.

Adjustable Tilting/Swiveling Wall Mount Bracket for LCD Plasma (Max 175Lbs, 32~60inch) - Aluminum Arms
(Product Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=3725 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=3725))
Should you have any question, please email at sales@monoprice.com. Thank you so much for your great support.

Regards,
Sales Dept.
Monoprice, Inc.

-----
Hmm, so to order and try or not?

Mike

eddie501

12-30-08, 03:35 PM

you might be able to put the cross bar high, and put the mounts high, i had a bit of flexibility in where/how to mount the TV on the mount.

if you google the 4 digit PN, and the word MOUNT, they are sold a lot of places.

my MP box came in an box with MP printed all over it, so you would know if it came from MP.

here's a really dumb questions, but how far apart are the studs in your house?

16 inches, right?

well, WHY is the mount 32 INCHES long!?!?!?!

it basically physically prevents you from mouting it on three studs,
unless you grind a hole in the end, and put a big fender washer on the bolts on the end.

i could have hit three studs if the mount was longer, but only got 2.

my studs were off the center of my fireplace by about 2 inches, but the TV mounts were 27 inches a apart.

I could have centered the mounting plate on three studs for maximum strength, an then slid the TV to the center of the fireplace.

Monoprice also sells a mount (3004) that is 36" wide and can be attached to three studs if you drill two additional holes in the center of the wall plate.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=3004&seq=1&format=3#specification

eddie501

12-30-08, 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=04ctd;15414518]you might be able to put the cross bar high, and put the mounts high, i had a bit of flexibility in where/how to mount the TV on the mount.

There is some flexibility with these Monoprice mounts....the bracket arms that attach to the TV can be attached higher or lower on the TV based on bracket hole and attachment point spacing and the TV itself can be moved side to side on the front plate rail once the brackets are attached to the front plate. The amount of flexibility allowed is subject to the horizontal and vertical spacing of the attachment points on the back of your television.

Given the location of your j-boxes in the cabinet, I don't think you have enough up and down flexibility with the mount to overcome having to either attach the wall plate completely above or completely below the boxes and still have the TV centered.

I think the bottom line is this...unless the two j-boxes in the cabinet are at least 19 and 11/16" apart (the dimensions of the wall plate on mount 3725), you are going to have difficulty making that mount work without some type of relocation of one of the j-boxes. When you get home, measure the distance between the 2 boxes and if it is 19 and 11/16" or more (It doesn't look like it based on the pictures) you should be golden. If not, you could move one of the boxes or try to find a mount with a narrower wall plate that will fit between the 2 boxes.

Something like this might work as well because the cut out holes in the wall plate could go right over the j-boxes.

http://www.toptvmounts.com/collections/swivel-tv-mounts/products/swivel-tv-mount-32-50

I hope this helps you more than it confuses you.

04ctd

12-30-08, 04:47 PM

the tilt only mount is sturdy,

the plate weighs 6 pounds, and the 2 tilt mounts weigh 6 lbs together.

the two "safety" screws on the right side were cross threaded or something, and i did NOT figure that out till I had the TV hung,

so when i take it off to do the wires, I will have to deal with that.

I think I will get some "anti tamper" screws to put in the safety screw holes (these are on the bottom bracket that locks the TV on the plate)

dandan123

12-30-08, 06:09 PM

I went through this entire thread and I dont' think I saw this, but can anyone confirm the mounting hole spacing on the back of the 58pz800u ?

Panasonic's website gives this for the 58pz850u and I'm assuming it's the same -
26"x12.6"

Are these centered on the back of the tv or are they more towards the top or bottom ?

I'm yet to buy one but would like to have the mount fixed before I order.

Thanks.

04ctd

12-30-08, 07:42 PM

astrovirus

12-30-08, 11:25 PM

Is that 4x 0.5" lag bolts/screws, or 4.5" lag bolts/screws. I was at the local hardware store and saw some 4" long 1/2" lag bolts/screws, but wasn't sure if that's what I should use.

The length of the of the lag screws I used are 4.5" and the diameter was only slightly bigger than those that came with the mount, 5/16" maybe? The only reason I chose longer screws was because I built the mounting studs with 3 2x6 sandwiched together, so the extra length of the lag screws could be justified.

I went through this entire thread and I dont' think I saw this, but can anyone confirm the mounting hole spacing on the back of the 58pz800u ? Panasonic's website gives this for the 58pz850u and I'm assuming it's the same -
26"x12.6" Are these centered on the back of the tv or are they more towards the top or bottom ?
Thanks.

The holes are spaced at 26"x12.6" on the 58pz800 and they are shifted upward of center. The top holes are 7.68" from the top of the display and the bottom holes are (obviously) 12.6" below them. I placed my mount before the tv arrived using these measurements and it ended up exactly where I calculated on the wall. I downloaded the owners manual online to get the rest of the Panny's measurements. As mentioned already the brackets holding the TV have multiple holes about 1 inch apart that allow the display to be adjusted up or down so that the mount would not have to be taken down if your measurements are off a bit. Just don't base your wall placement assuming you are using the last hole on the bracket as you won't have any room to raise the display if needed.

Mike_WI

12-30-08, 11:57 PM

What are the dimensions of the opening in your furniture? How far from the bottom and sides are the junction boxes? Do you want the TV centered in the space?
From post #103 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15408369#post15408369) (pics), 104, etc...

Measurements:
Depth: ~15.5"
Height: 29" (external), 32" internal
Width: 46" (external), ~47" internal
Elec/Cable outlet boxes:
- bottom to bottom: ~14.5"
- top to top: ~12.8"
- inside to inside (distance apart): 9.5"

Studs
(from an email from my carpenter...)
"..there looks to be a stud either side of the 2 upper outlet boxes - left of left one & right of right box."

eddie501 or other thoughts?
TV should arrive tomorrow from Amazon.

Mike

astrovirus

12-31-08, 01:22 AM

I do think a wall mount would make everything look real slick in your cabinet, but you may be hard pressed to fit the 3725 in there. I don't know where the mounting holes on your display are, but if you were able to mount the wall plate flush with underside of the outlets the bracket holes will extend up at most about 9 inches above the top edge of the wall plate. You'll have to determine thru your display's measurements if by using the top hole on the mounting brackets the bottom of the display will make it into the cupboard. If you're having trouble with coordinating all the measurements, take a piece of cardboard and make a template of the back of your new display when it arrives tomorrow and see where the mounting bracket would have to go to hold it in the correct position. You of course could leave it extended and hanging out of the cupboard. Not very asthetically pleasing IMHO. The best bet at this point, barring repositioning of the outlets, is probably to use the display's pedestal.

Mike_WI

12-31-08, 02:05 AM

dandan123

12-31-08, 10:22 AM

Astrovirus...thank you very much for the information. :)

eddie501

12-31-08, 03:11 PM

I agree with Astrovirus. Try the stand first, if that doesn't work try the cardboard cut out. Good luck.

BZiggyZ

12-31-08, 03:34 PM

I'm a happy monoprice mount user. I got the tilting wall mount for my 42" Panny plasma. Mounting was easy with common tools and the mount itself is solid as a rock. I still can't believe it was $25. We all know what BB charges for wall mounts and installation.

avnuttyguy

12-31-08, 06:07 PM

I'm amazed at the FACT that everyone seems OK with the FACT the monoprice mounts are NOT and HAVE NOT BEEN TESTED!
Would any of you drive a car that was not tested first and certified to be SAFE? Buy anything electrical that was not tested UL? Mount manufactures, "real" one anyway, ALL of them have UL listings for each wall mount they make. These "bargain" mounts out there are NOT!

A wall mount company that cannot verify their mounts that have to hold an expensive TV on the wall above where someone, maybe a child, MIGHT be under it or hang on it and not know FOR SURE that the mount is DESIGNED and MADE with all the correct metals and parts to provide it's intended use.

Why do you think UL exists in the first place,,, TESTING products to make sure they are SAFE!!!!

I'm just not that trusting of "cheap" stuff without testing that I could verify, especially when it comes to possible failure and damages... Just My Opinion.

Ask monoprice about this,,, really,,,, hold them accountable for what they "claim" is the weight rating. What are their liability plans if something fails. Do you think you'll get anywhere with the actual manufacture overseas instead? Good LUCK!

Happy New Year!

eddie501

12-31-08, 06:20 PM

avnuttyguy

12-31-08, 06:42 PM

How many times are you going to post the same thought phrased differently? I think we get your point.

Thanks eddie for your reply, very intuitive!

Do you have anything to add to this post that has anything valuable as to monoprice steping up to the plate here, they are getting allot of free advertising here and not, at least in my opinion deserve it with out being responsible for their claims, yet folks like yourself seem OK with promoting a company to sell products that MAY not be safe.

Good luck to you eddie! Happy New Year!

eddie501

12-31-08, 07:10 PM

Thanks eddie for your reply, very intuitive!

Do you have anything to add to this post that has anything valuable as to monoprice steping up to the plate here, they are getting allot of free advertising here and not, at least in my opinion deserve it with out being responsible for their claims, yet folks like yourself seem OK with promoting a company to sell products that MAY not be safe.

Good luck to you eddie! Happy New Year!

I am not sure how you can claim that Monoprice does not deserve the 'free advertising'. They sell quality products at great prices and have thrived through word of mouth marketing and good service. I have personally purchased HDMI cable, in-ceiling speakers, and a flat panel mount from Monoprice and have been happy with all of the products while saving hundreds of dollars over other options.

I am not sure whether Monoprice tests their mounts and I have no plans to pursue the issue further. I understand your view on the issue and I think the others do too. I guess we all just have varying degrees of risk tolerance and some of us are willing to try a mount that has not been through the UL licensing process.

Best of luck to you too...and have a Happy New Year.

SpearNole

01-02-09, 11:54 AM

I'm very happy with the quality of my monoprice mount. For less than $50 bucks it was well worth it. I used the 4174 on my Pio 5080 and it worked great.

PeteG

01-02-09, 02:00 PM

ImRonMexico

01-06-09, 12:12 AM

Is there any insurance with their mounts? I know like Rhino Mounts insure their mount for 10k incase something happens.

avnuttyguy

01-06-09, 01:20 AM

If this mount was not of high quality there’s no way I would put my plasma (Panny 58PZ800U) on it.
It’s been rock sold for the last 6 weeks. So far everything I bought from Monoprice has worked great.

http://pix.myphotoalbum.com/p/pg/pgo/pgoo/pgoon/pgoonis/albums/album01/mono1.sized.jpg (http://pgoonis.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=mono1)

Yeah! 6 weeks! No problems! What's that in dog years? Good luck in your "faith" in a not tested and non-rated product, with absolutely NO INSURANCE except all the monoprice people that are advertising for them,,, maybe they will pay for any failure of a mount. Try and get it in writing.... oh, actually it is here in this forum. Good luck on collecting any claim though.

Ok, that was totally made up and in JEST, but really folks, why "trust" such an important product claim just to save a few bucks? Really? is it worth it?

I'm being put down for reclaiming this concern, it's not against monoprice, really, I bought my HDMI cable from them, but any company not providing an industry standard of a rated, tested product and under cutting the price so much because they are not compliant to testing is a big concern as a consumer should be aware of.

Really glad to hear the monoprice mounts are not failing after 6 weeks, really,,, I hope to have my Sanus mount hold my $2000+ TV for allot longer, and I have a tested product to give me that assurance, obviously all the monoprice folks trust in the low price leader to that assurance, just not me.

avnuttyguy

01-06-09, 01:32 AM

Is there any insurance with their mounts? I know like Rhino Mounts insure their mount for 10k incase something happens.

I asked monoprice, NO,,,, NO insurance, other than 30 days return/refund... thats does me no good if it fails and my TV falls to the floor and is busted or worse falls on someone by chance.

But you know,,, all the "promoter's" for monoprice mounts say you'll be fine,,, maybe they know more than monoprice has told me.

Do any of the monoprice wall mount owners have any assurance from monoprice in writing?

I'm all for saving money, really! just having a product like a wall mount is not in my opinion, a savings worth having without any insurance/assurance.

dandan123

01-06-09, 02:18 PM

Do you perhaps work for Sanus ? If you do let me know I could do with a discount :)

mycatsnameis

01-06-09, 03:01 PM

Even better perhaps you could direct us to the appropriate link on the Sanus page where they detail the insurance amount one can claim in the event the mount fails and your TV is damaged. That would be most helpful.

fireman325

01-06-09, 08:08 PM

I asked monoprice, NO,,,, NO insurance, other than 30 days return/refund... thats does me no good if it fails and my TV falls to the floor and is busted or worse falls on someone by chance.

But you know,,, all the "promoter's" for monoprice mounts say you'll be fine,,, maybe they know more than monoprice has told me.

Do any of the monoprice wall mount owners have any assurance from monoprice in writing?

I'm all for saving money, really! just having a product like a wall mount is not in my opinion, a savings worth having without any insurance/assurance.

I'm just curious, but what exactly do you think is going to go wrong with these mounts? Are the welds going to spontaneously disintegrate? Do you expect all the screws to break? Do you expect the metal to suddenly fail? I mean, what is it exactly that you expect to go wrong with something you've never even seen in person before? And I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, but am genuinely interested to know why you think a mount from monoprice won't hold your TV on the wall. And as far as UL testing goes, in my experience, I've seen plenty of UL tested products being used properly burn peoples' houses down. I don't exactly put a lot of faith into anything just because UL tested it, but your opinion may differ.

rmccoll

01-06-09, 08:13 PM

I used a tilt mount for a 130# Panasonic. Very satisfied with stability.

skeelo58

01-06-09, 08:46 PM

I asked monoprice, NO,,,, NO insurance, other than 30 days return/refund... thats does me no good if it fails and my TV falls to the floor and is busted or worse falls on someone by chance.

But you know,,, all the "promoter's" for monoprice mounts say you'll be fine,,, maybe they know more than monoprice has told me.

Do any of the monoprice wall mount owners have any assurance from monoprice in writing?

I'm all for saving money, really! just having a product like a wall mount is not in my opinion, a savings worth having without any insurance/assurance.

Just curious.... do OTHER brands give you insurance? I doubt they would. There are too many people out there that DON'T know how to properly install their wall-mount, and the companies know this. They aren't going to offer insurance to people that don't know that they are doing.

That is like offering life insurance to someone right before they decide to play russian roulette.

You say you are afraid that it is going to fail, but if it did, then where are all the threads about people's TV's just randomly falling off the wall? You would think that SOMEONE would have had their mount fail by now.

ImRonMexico

01-06-09, 09:35 PM

Rhino Mount offers 100k insurance

fireman325

01-07-09, 09:50 AM

You say you are afraid that it is going to fail, but if it did, then where are all the threads about people's TV's just randomly falling off the wall? You would think that SOMEONE would have had their mount fail by now.

You bring up a good point. I haven't seen anyone post anywhere that their monoprice mount failed. If there are posts are out there I hope someone can post links because I would love to see these for myself.

dopdahl

01-07-09, 12:39 PM

I've had my 42" panny on an $18 monoprice tilting mount for a couple of years now. I don't see how this mount can "fail". One might want to use better lags than the ones that are provided, but I didn't.

It's plenty solid. This weekend I'll be mounting my new 130 pound panny on a bigger monoprice mount and I'll sleep well at night. The wall would fail before this mount in my opinion.

Just my 2 cents based on my impression of the mount's quality and construction.

avnuttyguy

01-07-09, 01:55 PM

Well at least I did predict all the monoprice folks would be digging on me for my comments.

So, here it is.... I HAVE NOT STATED ANYWHERE THE MONOPRICE MOUNTS ARE BAD, WILL FAIL OR HAVE FAILED. READ ALL MY POSTS AGAIN. I BOUGHT AN HDMI CABLE FROM THEM, THEY OFFER GOOD VALUE FOR AV ACCESSORIES, I'M NOT KNOCKING MP FOR THE LOW PRICES... OK GOT IT??

Now, the reason for my CONCERN,,,, not claim,,,,, CONCERN is they are making claims for weight holding, and for who knows they may really be constructed to hold the claims,,,, I asked them for their testing data to back it up, such as a UL or CSA or ETL test report. Monoprice doesn't have anything to show any testing done, all SPECULATION!!!!

I'll say it again SPECULATION on behalf of monoprice mounts. fireman325 asked about the monoprice mounts in creating this thread, I didn't start the question.

All I'm saying is BUYER BEWARE since it appears many are so concerned about if they work with a particular TV weight size all the concerns anyone, including myself when I was making a purchase.

I DO NOT WORK FOR SANUS, NO DIFFERENT THAN PROBABLY MOST OF YOU REPLYING DON'T WORK FOR MONOPRICE, ALTHOUGH I SUSPECT MONOPRICE IS MONITORING AND POSTING DAMAGE CONTROL HERE.

CALL MONOPRICE AND ASK THEM HOW THEY KNOW AND CAN FOR CERTAIN CLAIM THE WEIGHT AND MATERIAL CONSTRUCTION. ALL OTHER "REAL" MOUNT MANUFACTURES HAVE THAT DATA... MP DOES NOT, AT LEAST WHEN I ASKED, MAYBE THEY ARE SCRAMBLING TO GET SOME.

I'M NOT THE BAD GUY HERE, I'M STATING FACTS BASED ON THERE IS NO TESTING DATA AVAILABLE ON THE MP MOUNTS.. OK ENOUGH OF RAMMING ME FOR SAYING MP IS BAD AND WILL FAIL... I HAVE NOT SAID THAT.

GOOD DAY TO ALL!

silverfx

01-07-09, 01:55 PM

Hi, I've just put the 3610 low profile up on my wall, the tv is not up yet.

I decided to use these holes since they were 16" on center, but does anyone think using them would be a problem instead of using the mounting holes that are 1" closer to the edge? Please see attachment.

I'm using the provided lag bolts, 4 in total on two studs and a 50" 84# Panny will be hung on it.

daMaster

01-07-09, 02:03 PM

I'd like to stay on topic please. I bought a Monoprice mount and I don't want to hear ridiculous speculations that for some reason my mount will fall apart and my TV will be destroyed. Gimme a break!

If this mount was not of high quality there’s no way I would put my plasma (Panny 58PZ800U) on it.
It’s been rock sold for the last 6 weeks. So far everything I bought from Monoprice has worked great.

http://pix.myphotoalbum.com/p/pg/pgo/pgoo/pgoon/pgoonis/albums/album01/mono1.sized.jpg (http://pgoonis.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=mono1)
PeteG, which model is that? 3725? I'm planning to mount my 58PZ800U in the coming week on a 3725. What lag bolts did you use? I was thinking 1/2" thick but wasn't sure what length to get.

fireman325

01-07-09, 02:20 PM

fireman325

01-07-09, 03:00 PM

Now, the reason for my CONCERN,,,, not claim,,,,, CONCERN is they are making claims for weight holding, and for who knows they may really be constructed to hold the claims,,,, I asked them for their testing data to back it up, such as a UL or CSA or ETL test report. Monoprice doesn't have anything to show any testing done, all SPECULATION!!!!

I'll say it again SPECULATION on behalf of monoprice mounts. fireman325 asked about the monoprice mounts in creating this thread, I didn't start the question.

And I do appreciate your concerns, and even shared them myself when I started this thread. But so far, I have been able to find no reason whatsoever to justify them. That was the reason for this thread to begin with. I wanted to hear from people with actual experience with mounts from monoprice, both good and bad, but so far noone has posted with anything bad.

PeteG

01-07-09, 09:20 PM

I'd like to stay on topic please. I bought a Monoprice mount and I don't want to hear ridiculous speculations that for some reason my mount will fall apart and my TV will be destroyed. Gimme a break!

PeteG, which model is that? 3725? I'm planning to mount my 58PZ800U in the coming week on a 3725. What lag bolts did you use? I was thinking 1/2" thick but wasn't sure what length to get.

My mount is 3724 (all steel), I picked up 4” lag bolts and bigger washers. Just make sure to predrill the stud dead center.

daMaster

01-07-09, 10:57 PM

My mount is 3724 (all steel), I picked up 4” lag bolts and bigger washers. Just make sure to predrill the stud dead center.

4" long 1/2" thick?

Don't h8

01-07-09, 11:55 PM

I've been following this thread for a while and thought I'd add my 2 cents as a weekend toolbelt warrior who plays an engineer on tv.

For my pioneer 6070, I use a Sanus VMPL3 (I think that's the model number). The main reason is that at the time I was mounting my tv, monoprice did not have any mounts that accomodated the large bolt pattern of my tv. This may still be the case as I've looked recently at a variety of monoprice mounts which now have a warning that it doesn't work with various pioneer and LG tvs. The Sanus mount is built like a tank and the tilt feature is smooth and requires no major adjustments to tilt either up or down as it is tension based. 1 person with 1 hand and light tension can adjust it. Its a wonderful design. I paid about $175 for the mount.

A buddy who helped mount my tv recently purchased a samsung 58A550 and we wall mounted his tv. He used a Monster brand wall mount that is very similar to the current flat/tilt mounts from monoprice. It is built well but not as solid as the Sanus. Does this matter? Probably not as neither of them are going to bend if mounted correctly to the wall. The BIG difference is in the tilt mechanism of his mount. Safely, it requires 2 people to adjust the tilting mechanism. I can't remember the exact way its done, but it is screw/allen head bolt based. A very cheap design. His cost was half of mine.

Would I purchase a monoprice flat/tilt mount? Probably. Those mount likely will not fail if installed properly. However, there is something to be said of the difference mechanisms used and designed in some of the higher priced mounts.

Now, I am currently looking for adjustible/articulating mount for a 46" plasma that is in my living room media niche that is 27" deep. The plasma will be extended 99% of the time. I've heavily contemplated the monoprice extendable mounts but after review and research, I do not like the way the arms attach to the wall bracket. I don't have any proof they are inferior or that they will fail, but have more confidence in a peerless/sanus/onmimount extendable bracket because of the engineering behind them that they will hold up to their stated capacity with arm(s) extended most of the time.

Moral:
- flat/tilt mount from monoprice? Probably.
- articulating/extendable mount from monoprice in my situation? No.

Food for thought and not to extend the debate, but why do the forum sponsors who post in the plasma forum usually only recommend sanus/peerless/omnimount instead of monoprice mounts? Most of the same sponsors are quick to recommend monoprice HDMI cables...

agreif

01-08-09, 08:25 PM

here are the pictures of my mount

http://andrewpc1.googlepages.com/CIMG3494.JPG/CIMG3494-custom;size:800,600.JPG
If anyone whats anymore pictures from other angles or anything just ask

Andrew, can you snap a picture of the mount extended turned to the max position? Kindof like if you wanted to get the TV as perpindicular to the wall as you can?

Thanks,
Andrew

PeteG

01-08-09, 11:09 PM

4" long 1/2" thick?

5/16 body diameter w/ 1/2 head.

daMaster

01-09-09, 09:12 AM

5/16 body diameter w/ 1/2 head.

Thanks! One last question: do you keep the TV extended out all the time? I'll be keeping mine extended to the maximum, and I'm concerned about the strength of the arms (mind you, I haven't seen/received my mount yet so maybe I'm just worried for nothing).

PeteG

01-09-09, 10:51 AM

Thanks! One last question: do you keep the TV extended out all the time? I'll be keeping mine extended to the maximum, and I'm concerned about the strength of the arms (mind you, I haven't seen/received my mount yet so maybe I'm just worried for nothing).

I extend it very little, just so I can access the back. When you get your mount in and lift it
up you will realize how beefy and sold it is.

http://pix.myphotoalbum.com/p/pg/pgo/pgoo/pgoon/pgoonis/albums/album01/tvmount2_001.sized.jpg (http://pgoonis.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=tvmount2_001)
http://pix.myphotoalbum.com/p/pg/pgo/pgoo/pgoon/pgoonis/albums/album01/panny58_2_001.sized.jpg (http://pgoonis.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=panny58_2_001)

TXST8tj

01-12-09, 01:05 PM

i have the MP 4926 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=4926&seq=1&format=2)tilting and swiveling bracket mounted in our master bedroom with a 32" Insignia LCD.

the LCD weights about 40#, and the mount is said to handle up to 125#. the mount is intended for LCDs and Plasmas 32"-52". it is a single arm, double articulating setup, where the arm mounts off center to the wall plate.

i needed a new mount to place my LCD in the corner of our room. i needed something that was going to allow me to place the unit however i needed. since it would be partially extended while mounted, it needed to be stout.

the 4926 is about as stout as i could ever expect from a single arm mount. it supports the unit with NO issues at all....NO sagging, NO unwanted flex. it articulates smoothly and does everything it should.

i will say though, that this mount is best suited for a 37"+ TV, vs. a 32"+. the sides of the plate that the TV mounts to is a bit too wide for a 32" and you can see a little bit of it sticking out the sides when looking at the unit from any other angle than straight on.
this is not too big of a deal for me b/c i will simply cut that plate so it does not extrude beyond the LCD. i'm sure this was not intended by the manufacturer, but i have no issues with it, and it will then make this the perfect mount for my 32". as far as i am concerned, this is overkill for that size of LCD....i have no problem with that.

*note: while not ideal, i was only able to use one stud with 3 lag bolts on one side of the mount (side where the arm is mounted), and used 4 toggle bolts on the other side of the wall plate. i hate using toggle bolts, but this was my only solution. the wall plate does not move the slightest bit while still or while articulating the TV.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/586ed86b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/1de5b91a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/e244a557.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/485eb300.jpg

(i am in the process of running a new power outlet behind the TV, along with A/V cable plates for through wall runs)

agreif

01-12-09, 03:47 PM

Andrew, can you snap a picture of the mount extended turned to the max position? Kindof like if you wanted to get the TV as perpindicular to the wall as you can?

Thanks,
Andrew
PeteG, daMaster,
You guys don't have a picture of your TV's fully extended and swiveled to one direction do you? I'm trying to get a feel for how perpindicular the TV can get to the wall. Doing some trig for my 52" Samsung I get about 36* or perpindicular. Any pics are appreciated.

TXST8tj,
You got that mount so you could corner mount it and with that mount you were abl to hit two studs, right?

daMaster

01-12-09, 03:49 PM

PeteG, daMaster,
You guys don't have a picture of your TV's fully extended and swiveled to one direction do you? I'm trying to get a feel for how perpindicular the TV can get to the wall. Doing some trig for my 52" Samsung I get about 36* or perpindicular. Any pics are appreciated.

TXST8tj,
You got that mount so you could corner mount it and with that mount you were abl to hit two studs, right?
I haven't installed mine as I'll only be getting my mount this weekend. I'll post pics once it's up. I plan to keep mine fully extended all the time, and mine will always be parallel to the wall it's mounted on, not perpendicular.

TXST8tj

01-12-09, 04:20 PM

TXST8tj,
You got that mount so you could corner mount it and with that mount you were abl to hit two studs, right?

*note: while not ideal, i was only able to use one stud with 3 lag bolts on one side of the mount (side where the arm is mounted), and used 4 toggle bolts on the other side of the wall plate. i hate using toggle bolts, but this was my only solution. the wall plate does not move the slightest bit while still or while articulating the TV.

....i was only able to hit one stud as my studs are 24" apart and this mount is ideal for studs 16" apart. this mount spans enough to hit 2 studs, 16" apart.

agreif

01-12-09, 08:34 PM

I haven't installed mine as I'll only be getting my mount this weekend. I'll post pics once it's up. I plan to keep mine fully extended all the time, and mine will always be parallel to the wall it's mounted on, not perpendicular.
Great, if you could grab a picture swiveled as perpendicular as possible for me I'd really appreciate it.

mbroadus

01-12-09, 09:46 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/586ed86b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/1de5b91a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/e244a557.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/485eb300.jpg

Looks great!!

I have a Panasonic 37PX50U that I need to mount and I'm looking at the 4296 and would like to know if you had a choice which side to mount the arm?

Anyone know of a mount like this that locks in the flush position?

skeelo58

01-12-09, 10:55 PM

TXST8tj

01-13-09, 08:01 AM

Looks great!!

I have a Panasonic 37PX50U that I need to mount and I'm looking at the 4296 and would like to know if you had a choice which side to mount the arm?

Anyone know of a mount like this that locks in the flush position?

thanks.
you can mount the arm on either side. you just flip the mount. it's the same either way.
i would have prefered the arm to be on the side closer to the corner of the walls to get it out of the way even more, but i was only able to tie into one stud (the side where the arm is now) and i figured it would be better to have the arm side tied into the stud, so i did it that way.

this one does not "lock" in the flush position, but if you push it all the way flush, it is not going to move. even extended it does not move unless you do the moving. you could probably rig up some sort of lock for it though if you're worried about it getting pulled away from the wall.

mbroadus

01-13-09, 05:59 PM

thanks.
you can mount the arm on either side. you just flip the mount. it's the same either way.
i would have prefered the arm to be on the side closer to the corner of the walls to get it out of the way even more, but i was only able to tie into one stud (the side where the arm is now) and i figured it would be better to have the arm side tied into the stud, so i did it that way.

this one does not "lock" in the flush position, but if you push it all the way flush, it is not going to move. even extended it does not move unless you do the moving. you could probably rig up some sort of lock for it though if you're worried about it getting pulled away from the wall.

Thanks, I wanted to be sure that with the weight of the display, that the arm would not creep outward.

daMaster

01-13-09, 07:04 PM

I installed my tilting wall-mount tonight. Thing is solid as a rock. However, I feel like i made a mistake. Previously, I had my TV on a stand (like 2 1/2 feet off the ground, any average stand). Where I made a mistake is I feel I may have mounted it too high. The bottom of the TV is probably 5 feet off the ground now.

Looking up a few posts at Pete G's setup, I am really regretting how high I mounted it. :(
5 feet off the ground is really way too high. I plan to mount mine such that the middle of the screen is at eye level when seated. That way no one has to strain their neck up or down to view it comfortably. On a 58" Panasonic PZ800U plasma that translates to the bottom of the screen being about 22" off the ground (less than 2 feet).

fireman325

01-13-09, 07:45 PM

5 feet off the ground is really way too high. I plan to mount mine such that the middle of the screen is at eye level when seated. That way no one has to strain their neck up or down to view it comfortably. On a 58" Panasonic PZ800U plasma that translates to the bottom of the screen being about 22" off the ground (less than 2 feet).

I think mine is somewhere around 30" off the ground. Measured carefully to clear the top of the center channel speaker by a couple of inches and also just high enough so you can easily see over the top of your feet if you're kicked back in a recliner.

eddie501

01-13-09, 08:05 PM

I think mine is somewhere around 30" off the ground. Measured carefully to clear the top of the center channel speaker by a couple of inches and also just high enogh so you can easily see over the top of your seat if you're kicked back in a recliner.

The correct height at which to mount a TV is very subjective and really depends on viewing distance and habits and WAF. The further you move away from the TV the less important height becomes. I suggest living with it for a bit and then decide if it needs to be re-mounted.

I personally have my 58PZ800U mounted about 40 inches off the ground to the bottom of the set.

TXST8tj

01-13-09, 10:22 PM

Thanks, I wanted to be sure that with the weight of the display, that the arm would not creep outward.

nope. even partially extended, the arms stay in place (as does the TV) until you physically and intentionally move it.

skeelo58

01-14-09, 01:15 AM

The correct height at which to mount a TV is very subjective and really depends on viewing distance and habits and WAF. The further you move away from the TV the less important height becomes. I suggest living with it for a bit and then decide if it needs to be re-mounted.

I personally have my 58PZ800U mounted about 40 inches off the ground to the bottom of the set.

Well, to be fair to myself, I do sit roughly 14 feet from the TV. Grabbing a tape measure now, and it looks like the bottom of the TV is actually 44 inches off the ground. It is a 50" TV, I dont know if I said that in my previous post, and I'm too lazy to go back and check haha. So what does everyone think? Too high? If I had to do it all over again, I woulda lowered it bout 10 inches....

PrimeTime

01-14-09, 09:37 AM

Five feet off the ground?

Well...At least in your home theater, no need to shout "Down in front!"

agreif

01-14-09, 07:01 PM

Guys, is it true to swivel either the 4926 or the 3725 you need a screwdriver?

Thanks,
Andrew

TXST8tj

01-14-09, 10:01 PM

Guys, is it true to swivel either the 4926 or the 3725 you need a screwdriver?

Thanks,
Andrew

i have the 4926 and can say it does not require a screwdriver to swivel or tilt. you can use an allen wrench to tighten the bolts going through the arms to increase the tension to make it harder to swivel, but a tool is not needed for basic swivel function. the tilt function is done so by a knob on each arm that is screwed to the TV. the tilt can be adjusted while the TV is connected to the bracket.

attygb

01-15-09, 09:47 AM

Mike_WI

01-15-09, 10:26 AM

I'm looking at the 3725 vs the equivalent Sanus model. After reading this thread, I'm not worried about the 3725 holding my 50" LCD, it seems that it's a sturdy mount. I am however planning to use the mount for viewing in two rooms, my living room and kitchen, in my small condo so I expect to use the swivel function frequently. I have played with the Sanus mount at a big box retailer and the swivel function works great. I'm concerned that the it will be much more difficult to swivel the tv with the 3725. Does anyone who has used the 3725 have any thoughts on how well the swivel function works beyond the fact that you don't need a tool?

Thanks.
I don't have the 3725 but was considering buying it (don't need it now).
I buy from Monoprice a lot and like them.
That said, I saw the Sanus mounts at CES and they seemed very nice.
For a heavy use application like you suggest, it MIGHT (but only might) be worth the likely much higher cost for the Sanus.
I look forward to seeing more informed comments on the differences.

Mike

PrimeTime

01-15-09, 10:52 AM

Me too.

Seems like a few here have said that the Monoprice swing-out mounts aren't all that easily moved and might not be the best choice for daily exercise.

Saw some user reviews at Overstock that had favorable comments in this aspect on both a Sanus (<$300) and an Arrow (<$200) mount. (The Arrow comment about "easily moved" was from a female.)

The cheaper mounts there look like they might be Pyle-branded releases of the Monoprice mounts.

agreif

01-15-09, 12:27 PM

I'm looking at the 3725 vs the equivalent Sanus model. After reading this thread, I'm not worried about the 3725 holding my 50" LCD, it seems that it's a sturdy mount. I am however planning to use the mount for viewing in two rooms, my living room and kitchen, in my small condo so I expect to use the swivel function frequently. I have played with the Sanus mount at a big box retailer and the swivel function works great. I'm concerned that the it will be much more difficult to swivel the tv with the 3725. Does anyone who has used the 3725 have any thoughts on how well the swivel function works beyond the fact that you don't need a tool?

Thanks.

That is exactly my question too, and how far can it really swivel 52" TV, by my calcs it's about 55*

Stylez777

01-16-09, 09:09 AM

I was looking at the Monoprice mounts and the price looks really good and people have nothing but great things to say.

I was curious what the difference was between product 3900 and 4174 was? I know it says product 4174 is a Premium 2.5mm wall mount. It's just the 4174 is heavier or thicker steel right? Also how do these compare to the Bytecc Brand ones they sell on Newegg I'm assuming there about similar quality? Anyone happen to know off hand before I make an order.

Mike_WI

01-16-09, 10:10 AM

attygb

01-16-09, 12:19 PM

That is exactly my question too, and how far can it really swivel 52" TV, by my calcs it's about 55*

I decided to give the 3725 a try. I will add comments on the swivel function when I have it installed.

Stylez777

01-16-09, 02:40 PM

I recommend using the Monoprice online chat function.
You'll get the correct information from the source. ;)

Mike

Thanks i hit them up and they said that was the only difference.

I was curious form people who have used the tilt mounts (not the swivel or full motion ones) if when you put the TV onto the mount if it has like the lug nut clamps you can tighten to hold the hook with the TV to the mount, I couldn't tell form the picture and i asked them in the chat and they seemed unsure of what i was asking.

DNbass

01-16-09, 03:08 PM

Well, to be fair to myself, I do sit roughly 14 feet from the TV. Grabbing a tape measure now, and it looks like the bottom of the TV is actually 44 inches off the ground. It is a 50" TV, I dont know if I said that in my previous post, and I'm too lazy to go back and check haha. So what does everyone think? Too high? If I had to do it all over again, I woulda lowered it bout 10 inches....

FWIW to you my 50" Pioneer is 43.5 from the bottom of the TV to the floor. This was done "by design". The only thing I have under my TV is the sub, and the center speaker. I had a gent build me a simple stand so that center would be essentially the same height as the floorstanding speakers and inches under the TV, which is about the level of your head/ears when sitting. Also, I like the TV at that level so that we can watch TV when in the kitchen (and the back of the couch doesn't block half of the TV).

I'd say give it some time and see if it continues to bother you. You might just realize it's perfectly fine for your set-up.

eddie501

01-16-09, 04:51 PM

fireman325

01-16-09, 05:52 PM

Thanks i hit them up and they said that was the only difference.

I was curious form people who have used the tilt mounts (not the swivel or full motion ones) if when you put the TV onto the mount if it has like the lug nut clamps you can tighten to hold the hook with the TV to the mount, I couldn't tell form the picture and i asked them in the chat and they seemed unsure of what i was asking.

I'm not sure if I'm showing the right thing, but here are a couple of pics of my 4174 tilting mount.

This is where the TV bracket hangs on the wall bracket at the top. To tilt the mount, you unscrew the knobs on both sides and let the top of the TV tilt out however far you want it. I've never tried tilting mine though. I got a tilting mount over a flush mount just in case I ever decided I wanted the option to tilt.

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/fireman325/DSC01651.jpg

This is where the TV bracket attaches to the wall bracket at the bottom. After you hang the TV on the bracket, you slide that piece up and tighten the screws and that holds the bottom against the wall bracket.

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/fireman325/DSC01650.jpg

agreif

01-17-09, 09:20 AM

I decided to give the 3725 a try. I will add comments on the swivel function when I have it installed.
Great, I'd love to hear your impressions and see some pictures. I'm in your shoes too, watching from the family room and kitchen, required the TV to be swiveled as much as possible.

rspainhower

01-17-09, 12:59 PM

I bought the Monoprice 3337 mount to use with my Samsung 32" LN32A450. The mount will stick out on each side, and the way my tv bumps out towards the bottom on the back will either make the part that attaches to the tv 1/2 inch from the tv or have to have the them stick up from the top of the tv.

Can I just cut/trim this mount so that its all behind the tv and doesn't show?
Has anybody done this with success? Please post pics

Andrew911tt

01-18-09, 08:25 PM

here are the pics you wanted agreif

http://andrewpc1.googlepages.com/otherpictures

http://andrewpc1.googlepages.com/tvpictures

BamaPT

01-18-09, 11:08 PM

I am looking for a mount for a Sharp 32" LCD. I either need a Tilt or simple low profile. I was looking at the Monoprice mounts, but I think I would have the same problem as a previous poster in that my power and cable outlets would be blocked base on where I want to mount the tv. Can anyone recommend a mount with a more open panel that would not block the outlets. I'd like to find something comparable to the monoprice mounts in price if possible.

TXST8tj

01-26-09, 12:10 PM

putting a feeler out there....would there be any interest in someone wanting to purchase this mount from me? it is the MP 4926 tilting and swiveling mount.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=4926&seq=1&format=2

it is currently on backorder, and has been pretty much since it came out. they only get a couple in at a time, and i happened to get one of them about a month or so ago.
as you can read below in a previous post of mine (page 6), the mount itself is awesome; it is my setup that it does not work as perfect as i had hoped. and that just comes down to me having too small of a TV...i personally think.

i originally planned to just cut the plate the LCD attaches to, because it stick out the sides of the screen. this by itself would not be any issue for me. however, after looking closer, i realize that even after i cut that plate, the wall plate will still be visible on the side of the LCD. this is all because my TV is only 32" and should be at least 37" to hide these plates.

from my personal experience, i believe this mount is best suited for 37" and larger LCDs and plasmas.

just as a note, the mount itself is fantastic, and way overkill for any LCD of this approximate size. me getting rid of it has nothing to do with this as a Monoprice product, just me having too small of a LCD to hide the structure of the mount.
just so it is understood that i trust and like the Monoprice product, i will be replacing this mount with another Monoprice mount.

what i will be purchasing:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082802&p_id=3411&seq=1&format=2
this one is more like the style of mount i had for this LCD in our last house and i know it will work better for me in this installation.

i do not have a price in mind just yet, but this is a copy of the original invoice:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/For%20Sale/b8c0fe81.jpg

for anyone interested to gauge an offering price. if there is any interest, i can create a classified listing if needed, otherwise, just PM me with questions, offers, etc. it is basically brand new and in perfect condition, so i am not looking for completely lowball offers. i'd store it in the attic or give it away if that is the case. this is basically just the chance for someone to get this mount without having to wait for MP to get it back in stock.

i have the MP 4926 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=4926&seq=1&format=2)tilting and swiveling bracket mounted in our master bedroom with a 32" Insignia LCD.

the LCD weights about 40#, and the mount is said to handle up to 125#. the mount is intended for LCDs and Plasmas 32"-52". it is a single arm, double articulating setup, where the arm mounts off center to the wall plate.

i needed a new mount to place my LCD in the corner of our room. i needed something that was going to allow me to place the unit however i needed. since it would be partially extended while mounted, it needed to be stout.

the 4926 is about as stout as i could ever expect from a single arm mount. it supports the unit with NO issues at all....NO sagging, NO unwanted flex. it articulates smoothly and does everything it should.

i will say though, that this mount is best suited for a 37"+ TV, vs. a 32"+. the sides of the plate that the TV mounts to is a bit too wide for a 32" and you can see a little bit of it sticking out the sides when looking at the unit from any other angle than straight on.
this is not too big of a deal for me b/c i will simply cut that plate so it does not extrude beyond the LCD. i'm sure this was not intended by the manufacturer, but i have no issues with it, and it will then make this the perfect mount for my 32". as far as i am concerned, this is overkill for that size of LCD....i have no problem with that.

*note: while not ideal, i was only able to use one stud with 3 lag bolts on one side of the mount (side where the arm is mounted), and used 4 toggle bolts on the other side of the wall plate. i hate using toggle bolts, but this was my only solution. the wall plate does not move the slightest bit while still or while articulating the TV.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/586ed86b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/1de5b91a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/e244a557.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/TXST8tj/Electronics/Master%20Bedroom/LCD%20Wall%20Mount/485eb300.jpg

(i am in the process of running a new power outlet behind the TV, along with A/V cable plates for through wall runs)

attygb

01-26-09, 12:52 PM

I installed the 3725 this weekend and mounted my 50" Sony. I actaully did everything by myself and had it done in a little over an hour. The only difficult part was lifting the tv over my fireplace by myslef. As refected by earlier comments in this string, the mount is very sturdy and I have no concerns about it holding the tv, even if I permanently left the tv in the fully extended position. I found the tilt funtion to work well. The TV stays that the same angle and there is no noticable flex in the bracket. As for the swivel function, as others have noted, the mount is a little "stiff" but I am easily able to move the tv to any position by myself. While it doesn't move quite as nicely as the Sanus, I can't imagine anyone having too much trouble even if you are moving the TV daily. I will try to post pictures shortly. In short, I'm very happy with the mount and can't imagine spending $350 plus on a similar product.

Jimsaudiovideo

01-27-09, 03:51 PM

daMaster

01-30-09, 09:50 AM

I've got a question for those of you using Monoprice mount 3724 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=3724&seq=1&format=2) or 3725 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=3725&seq=1&format=2): does the mount dip down in vertical height when it is fully extended with a heavy TV (100 lbs+)?

I'm planning to mount a TH-58PZ800U (130 lbs) and will have it maximally extended out at all times. I'm trying to plan the height of the install very carefully because I want my TV set to be hovering/floating above my center speaker which will be sitting on an Ikea Lack table (legs removed) as pictured below. The height of the Ikea Lack table + my center speaker is 17.5" exactly. I'm planning the mount height such that the bottom of my TV will be 18.5" high. My concern is that if the mount is extended, the TV might dip down slightly and there goes my 1" clearance above the center speaker and bye bye "floating" effect and welcome "scraping" effect.

Here's a pic of the center speaker and Ikea Lack low-profile table:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=131777&stc=1&d=1233326458

agreif

01-30-09, 08:57 PM

I installed the 3725 this weekend and mounted my 50" Sony. ... I will try to post pictures shortly.
Pics?

de8212

01-30-09, 11:07 PM

agreif

01-30-09, 11:11 PM

de8212

01-30-09, 11:16 PM

I woudl love to see some pictures when you get it up. I have the same TV and am wondering how much it swivels.

I will post some but it may be next saturday before I can start on it. I have to fabricate a brace to put the mount on and then mount it, etc.

Jimsaudiovideo

01-31-09, 07:56 PM

fireman325

01-31-09, 08:15 PM

Hello Fireman 325:

I have used monoprice mounts, but will not use them for heavier TV's such as yours. Monoprices offer a good value but use thin gauge steel. I have had some sagging problems, and as bluewaves states flexing. I am an installer and have mounted many. I have found a company which does offer heavier gauge steel mounts for low cost and have been very happy. Their mounts are only a few extra bucks then Mono, but are stronger and of higher quality. I no longer worry about mounting heavy TV's with ERSE Mounts. Their TV mounts can be found at: http://www.erseaudio.com/VideoProducts

Hope this helps.

Jims Audio Video

Thanks for the information, but I'm no longer in the market. I ended up using a monoprice tilting mount, #4174 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=4174&seq=1&format=2). I went with this one because it's a "premium" model and is made of slightly thicker metal. I have no sagging or flexing and don't worry about my TV being on this mount at all. However, after seeing other reports, I would not be comfortable putting my TV on a full motion mount from monoprice.

daMaster

02-02-09, 01:07 AM

I ordered the 3725 today. Monoprice is crazy fast on shipping. Good news is I should get it monday or tuesday, bad news is I probably won't be able to install it until the weekend.

I've got a similar question as daMaster. My TV (samsung 650 LCD) will be over my center so I'm gonna have to do some creative math on how high above the center to mount the mount. Any suggestions?
I went ahead with the install this past weekend. My set up was a little complicated because my wood studs are 24" apart and the wall plate for mount 3725 is only about 19" wide. As a result, I used 2 20"x40" 3/4" plywood boards. I first attached the wall plate and mount to the plywood boards using bolts from the back of the board to the front of the wall plate where I attached a washer and nut to each of the bolts. With the help of my 2 brothers, I then attached the whole plywood+wall plate assembly to the wall using 3/8" (diameter) 4" long lag bolts. I put 3 lag bolts in each stud, for a total of 6 lag bolts. 3 of the lag bolts actually went through the wall plate so one side of the wall plate is securely attached to one of the 2 studs, at least.

Anyhow, I had calculated and re-calculated everything 3 times over just to be sure. The easiest thing to do is to first attach the whole mount assembly to the back of your TV while it's on it's own stand so that gives you an idea of where you need to center the wall plate relative to the center of your screen.

I needed a clearance of 17.5" from the ground to the bottom of the TV to fit my center speaker and Ikea lack table pictured in my previous post. I calculated for 18.5" of clearance, and after extending the TV out fully from the wall (26" from wall to front of the screen), I have 17.75" of clearance from the ground to the bottom of the TV. I can't tell you whether that's because of calculation/mounting inaccuracies or if it's actually because the mount sagged downwards when extended out.

I'm very satisfied with the mount and it is ROCK SOLID. All those saying the Monoprice mounts are not well-built don't really know what they're talking about, especially if they're just judging based on what they see in the pics and read in the product descriptions.

I'll post pics of my install once I'm all done with the HT re-modeling (still have some wall patching to complete).

daMaster

02-03-09, 11:51 AM

Ok, here are some preliminary pics, even though the whole HT isn't set up yet. Just to re-iterate the title of my post: this is mount 3725 holding up a 130 lbs 58" Panasonic TH-58PZ800U, extended 26" from the wall.

This is Monoprice mount 3725 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082806&p_id=3725&seq=1&format=2) installed on studs 24" apart using two 3/4" 40"x20" plywood boards. I hit 2 studs with 3 lag bolts in each stud (3/8" diameter, 4" long lag bolts). The actual mount's wall plate managed to hit one of the 2 studs, so 2 of the lag bolts are holding the wall plate on to the stud.

I painted the plywood black using Krylon spray paint, even though it isn't visible from the top of the TV unless one is standing about 2 feet in front of it.

Here is a pic of the plywood and wall mount assembly:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=132283&stc=1&d=1233684625

Close-up:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=132282&stc=1&d=1233684625

And finally, from the front of the TV (floating 26" from the wall):
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=132284&stc=1&d=1233684625

de8212

02-03-09, 12:21 PM

Do the pics show up for anyone else? I can't see them.

daMaster

02-03-09, 01:11 PM

Do the pics show up for anyone else? I can't see them.

Fixed. Damn Google Picasa makes it near impossible to link images due to dynamically generated, auto-expiring URLs!

de8212

02-03-09, 01:27 PM

Fixed. Damn Google Picasa makes it near impossible to link images due to dynamically generated, auto-expiring URLs!

Thanks for the pics. I should get mine on thursday and hopefully install it on saturday.

In the reviews i have seen some people mention that it is a little stiff to move. IS that the case with yours? I figured that may be just because it's new and mine will rarely move after it's set up.

captclueless

02-04-09, 09:33 PM

Ok I have a 42px75u. Will any of these three mounts work for my tv?

I am looking at this one
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=4174&seq=1&format=2

this one...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=4173&seq=1&format=2

and this one...

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=3899&seq=1&format=2

Thanks.

skeelo58

02-04-09, 10:07 PM

Yes, Yes, and Yes. I personally have the 1st one. Not too sure what the difference is between the 1st and 2nd one. The 1st says "premium". I don't know if that just means more heavy duty brackets or what. Either way, mine is holding a 50" TV, so you'd be fine with a 42".

captclueless

02-05-09, 08:54 AM

captclueless

02-05-09, 10:21 AM

Ended up going with part number 4173 Only difference I can tell between it and part number 3900 is this one doesn't have a logo. not sure why a logo would matter since it is going to have a big tv hanging off of it

agreif

02-09-09, 01:00 PM

here are the pics you wanted agreif

http://andrewpc1.googlepages.com/otherpictures

http://andrewpc1.googlepages.com/tvpictures

Thanks!

de8212

02-09-09, 05:46 PM

Got my 3725 mounted today. I can get pics if someone wants them but it looks like others have come through first.

Just a quick comment saying that it is a decent mount. Definately sturdy and I trust it to hold my TV. I am happy with it. I would give it 4 out of 5 stars because the wall plate and the front plate are not level when it is collapsed. There are some screws that you can adjust (that's waht I did) so this isn't a huge deal. Just wanted to point that out.

agreif

02-09-09, 07:27 PM

What size is your LCD, if 52", you know by now I'm up for seeing pics. I'm just curious how much of an angle it can go to the wall.

de8212

02-09-09, 08:20 PM

What size is your LCD, if 52", you know by now I'm up for seeing pics. I'm just curious how much of an angle it can go to the wall.

52".

I don't think my pics will help too much because of the way mine is recessed in the wall. I'll attach some pics so you might be able to tell. Keep in mind I just threw all the extra wires behind the tv so the kids won't get their hands on them so nothing is "cleaned up" yet.

Oh, and I cannot extend it all the way out yet. Well, I might can but it is pretty stiff so I don't want to take a chance on "flexing" the tv. Next time I can get a friend over I am going to work the mount in and out a few times.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/de8212/TV/tvmount.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/de8212/TV/tvmount2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/de8212/TV/tvmount3.jpg

avnuttyguy

02-09-09, 08:26 PM

It's been a while since I last posted in this thread. I had brought attention to the fact monoprice was not able to confirm to me when I was shopping and requested their testing documentation for their claims rating the weight holding for their wall mounts they sell. Monoprice mounts do not have any UL, TUV or ETL testing certificate of any kind, according to monoprice. How does monoprice know for sure what the weight rating is? What type of material and metals are specified to hold expensive TV's to the wall, especially when you talk about one that articulates. I guess "trust" is enough, just not for me. I read how important everyone feels about the specs of the TV they buy, but not the wall mount holding it to the wall, this strikes me as very odd. Just my opinion.

The "major" brand name mounts all have expensive UL testing certification, thus the materials and mgf. methods have met some type of standard. I would hope monoprice would have stepped up by now and provided some type of testing information, but instead are all about the "lowest price".

For cables, that's not a big deal, and I'm greatful they are so cheap since I DID BUY HDMI cables from monoprice and they work great, but they do not hold my TV on the wall and don't need to be mfg'd to any specification that COULD, cause damage.

I'm glad to read so many have decided to take the chance on these mounts and they appear to be of quality. I wish you all good luck in the future and hope nothing happens with these bargin mounts. I apoligize for bringing attention to what I felt was very concerning and others here have not been concerned and have found these mounts to be OK.

I'm glad I went with the mount I did instead, it's been perfect and not any "flex issues" some have noted about some of the monoprice mounts, that should be a BIG RED FLAG, folks!

bobbyg1983

02-11-09, 01:51 AM

Not to be a "Debbie Downer" here, but I looked at the monoprice mounts and no doubt they are the cheapest out there. I asked myself why and how the price is so far off the big name brands and called Sanus to ask why there is such a difference of price. Sanus asked me to call the manufacturer [monoprice] and verify if they have their wall mounts compliance tested. , ect.....

NOPE, the monoprice mounts have not been tested by any of the independant testing companies. How do they know for sure the weight ratings. I asked if they test all the mounts for the stated weight ratings and if I could review them. monoprice didn't have the right answers for me to buy their lower priced mounts. I spent $2000+ for my TV, saving $100 didn't make sense.

That's not to say the monoprice mounts aren't good, just why they are so cheap and something to consider when you are putting a heavy TV on the wall. I went with the sanus mount myself, yes it cost me over $100.00 but I'm secure knowing it's tested and safe.

just my .10$ worth of advise. I didn't post to get slammed by all the monoprice people, [I bought my HDMI cables from them!] I'm not going to argue what is better, just a fact I found.

Merry Christmas everyone!

I'm amazed at the FACT that everyone seems OK with the [U]FACT the monoprice mounts are NOT and HAVE NOT BEEN TESTED!
Would any of you drive a car that was not tested first and certified to be SAFE? Buy anything electrical that was not tested UL? Mount manufactures, "real" one anyway, ALL of them have UL listings for each wall mount they make. These "bargain" mounts out there are NOT!

A wall mount company that cannot verify their mounts that have to hold an expensive TV on the wall above where someone, maybe a child, MIGHT be under it or hang on it and not know FOR SURE that the mount is DESIGNED and MADE with all the correct metals and parts to provide it's intended use.

Why do you think UL exists in the first place,,, TESTING products to make sure they are SAFE!!!!

I'm just not that trusting of "cheap" stuff without testing that I could verify, especially when it comes to possible failure and damages... Just My Opinion.

Ask monoprice about this,,, really,,,, hold them accountable for what they "claim" is the weight rating. What are their liability plans if something fails. Do you think you'll get anywhere with the actual manufacture overseas instead? Good LUCK!

Happy New Year!

Well at least I did predict all the monoprice folks would be digging on me for my comments.

So, here it is.... I HAVE NOT STATED ANYWHERE THE MONOPRICE MOUNTS ARE BAD, WILL FAIL OR HAVE FAILED. READ ALL MY POSTS AGAIN. I BOUGHT AN HDMI CABLE FROM THEM, THEY OFFER GOOD VALUE FOR AV ACCESSORIES, I'M NOT KNOCKING MP FOR THE LOW PRICES... OK GOT IT??

Now, the reason for my CONCERN,,,, not claim,,,,, CONCERN is they are making claims for weight holding, and for who knows they may really be constructed to hold the claims,,,, I asked them for their testing data to back it up, such as a UL or CSA or ETL test report. Monoprice doesn't have anything to show any testing done, all SPECULATION!!!!

I'll say it again SPECULATION on behalf of monoprice mounts. fireman325 asked about the monoprice mounts in creating this thread, I didn't start the question.

All I'm saying is BUYER BEWARE since it appears many are so concerned about if they work with a particular TV weight size all the concerns anyone, including myself when I was making a purchase.

I DO NOT WORK FOR SANUS, NO DIFFERENT THAN PROBABLY MOST OF YOU REPLYING DON'T WORK FOR MONOPRICE, ALTHOUGH I SUSPECT MONOPRICE IS MONITORING AND POSTING DAMAGE CONTROL HERE.

CALL MONOPRICE AND ASK THEM HOW THEY KNOW AND CAN FOR CERTAIN CLAIM THE WEIGHT AND MATERIAL CONSTRUCTION. ALL OTHER "REAL" MOUNT MANUFACTURES HAVE THAT DATA... MP DOES NOT, AT LEAST WHEN I ASKED, MAYBE THEY ARE SCRAMBLING TO GET SOME.

I'M NOT THE BAD GUY HERE, I'M STATING FACTS BASED ON THERE IS NO TESTING DATA AVAILABLE ON THE MP MOUNTS.. OK ENOUGH OF RAMMING ME FOR SAYING MP IS BAD AND WILL FAIL... I HAVE NOT SAID THAT.

GOOD DAY TO ALL!

It's been a while since I last posted in this thread. I had brought attention to the fact monoprice was not able to confirm to me when I was shopping and requested their testing documentation for their claims rating the weight holding for their wall mounts they sell. Monoprice mounts do not have any UL, TUV or ETL testing certificate of any kind, according to monoprice. How does monoprice know for sure what the weight rating is? What type of material and metals are specified to hold expensive TV's to the wall, especially when you talk about one that articulates. I guess "trust" is enough, just not for me. I read how important everyone feels about the specs of the TV they buy, but not the wall mount holding it to the wall, this strikes me as very odd. Just my opinion.

The "major" brand name mounts all have expensive UL testing certification, thus the materials and mgf. methods have met some type of standard. I would hope monoprice would have stepped up by now and provided some type of testing information, but instead are all about the "lowest price".

For cables, that's not a big deal, and I'm greatful they are so cheap since I DID BUY HDMI cables from monoprice and they work great, but they do not hold my TV on the wall and don't need to be mfg'd to any specification that COULD, cause damage.

I'm glad to read so many have decided to take the chance on these mounts and they appear to be of quality. I wish you all good luck in the future and hope nothing happens with these bargin mounts. I apoligize for bringing attention to what I felt was very concerning and others here have not been concerned and have found these mounts to be OK.

I'm glad I went with the mount I did instead, it's been perfect and not any "flex issues" some have noted about some of the monoprice mounts, that should be a BIG RED FLAG, folks!

Not an exhaustive list, but some choice excerpts from the thread.

Look... no offense here, but for those of us just reading through this thread, I think that this opinion has more or less been adequately voiced. As I believe someone else pointed out a while back, if someone jumped in the thread to say that their monoprice mount failed and they lost their tv, then I think the discussion would open up quite a bit more, but I haven't seen any such post anywhere around here. I think that we're adequately appraised of the "risks" of the monoprice mounts at this point and I don't really know that we need a reminder or two from you on every page of the thread. (Although in fairness, it is true that is has "been a while.")

How many times are you going to post the same thought phrased differently? I think we get your point.

+1

daMaster

02-11-09, 01:56 AM

I couldn't care less what avnuttyguy has to say. My 3725 Monoprice mount is rock solid and is doing a fine job holding up my 130 lb 58" Panasonic PZ800U. See my pics posted earlier.

I couldn't be happier with such a great, solid product.

avnuttyguy

02-11-09, 03:05 AM

bobbyg

Curious, why would you care that I'm free to post just as you are? This is a PUBLIC FORUM and my opinion in this thread isn't any indifferent than yours, just on a opposite side. That's sort of the concept here isn't it?
It is possible you and others work or are paid by monoprice to keep this going, who knows and I really don't care much anyway.
Bottom line is monoprice is selling a product that has NOT passed any recognized certified testing to back up their claims and I'm questioning that. These are made in China, like many fine products are and many are tested to meet a spec, just these monoprice mounts are not, period. They could test their mounts but that costs allot of $$ and monoprice would sell as many to guys like you who trust all is ok just because monoprice sells so many? I REALLY hope all works out LONG TERM, I'm sure you have faith in that, good for you!

You certainly have much time to go back on all my posts on this serious subject. This is a FORUM and the OP did ask and so have others. Yes I have stated my opinion several times and most of those in reply to others.

It is odd how I'm getting slammed for bring a valid point to this thread as much as the "positive" is keeping itself in place.

Yes, no one yet has made claim to any failure, but really??? The point isn't 50 people have had no issue in 6 months, this is a potential problem over time when stress MAY take affect.

I'm just very concerned about a company who sells stuff so much cheaper and there is a reason that DOES and CAN have a dangerous outcome.

I'm OK with guy's like you telling me I'm Chicken Little, but monoprice hasn't stepped up to disprove anything I've voiced as a concern, how sad.

Funny, if someone was here saying their HDMI cables really were found to not meet certified to 1.3v high-speed who would really care, no one could get hurt, but certainly if they didn't meet spec. everyone would be going NUTS thinking their picture quality was suffering, but no one thinks its ok a mount could fail someday, it isn't a big deal to any one, as long as saving money is more important.

FYI this is a REPLY, please include this in your count.... really "cracks" me up!

;)

hc2

02-11-09, 07:43 AM

I just recieved the Monoprice 3900 tilting wall mount. The gauge of the steel is adequate for my 46PZ580U (97 lbs). For a simple tilting mount with most of the load being vertical, these are a very good value. I cannot see paying double the price (or more) for such a simple mechanism since the steel gauge is adequate. I think the weakest points of this type mount would be the bolts and the base material to which they are attached. Just get some sturdier lag bolts if you are worried about it amd make sure you are centered on the wall studs.
I mean $26 versus $100 or more for the basic same mount with similiar guage steel does not make sense.

daMaster

02-11-09, 10:03 AM

avnuttyguy

02-11-09, 10:33 AM

chinee

02-11-09, 11:56 PM

damaster

I feel the love! Of course you are qualified to your assesment of me, right? Just as I am of a product. Yup, I am nutty... :D:D:D

Good luck to you damaster and others, I'm just giving my opinion based on a fact, take it or leave it, no need to be vindictive towards me, but if it makes you feel better go right ahead!

Avnut... not vindictive... just running out of patience. I'm sure most are just a little tired of hearing you complain over and over again... do you remember what a record is? Then you'd understand when I say you sound like a broken record. Who's heard enough already about Joe the Plumber?

And bobbyg was conservative... I actually took 3 minutes to search all of your ninety-few posts and found 12 that you either complained about monoprice mounts, or defended your position. Only you, Nancy Grace and Bill O'Reilley (sp) can spend so much time on one topic over and over again... time for some new material.

And finally... Some people like to drive Acuras, but so many more find that Hondas work just as well... at a fraction of the cost... tested or untested. That Sammy 550 works pretty damn good... who needs a 750? Why 1080p when 720p looks just as good to me? Live and let live; it's all about personal preference, and most of us would not drop 12 posts trying to convince others otherwise. Enough already.

I'll probably get a little heat for this post... but I'm in a mood tonight.

BTW... my 3725 was installed on Monday, and it supports my Sharp 52D85U quite solidly, and I don't find it stiff at all; it's a two handed job, but I can tilt and swivel quite easily. And my screen only weighs in at 70-few pounds, not much of a test when compared to those 58" plasmas you guys have been hanging up!

avnuttyguy

02-12-09, 12:50 AM

Sorry to have interrupted "your" personal private forum with an opinion, and replies to such. I obviously don't have any value to this thread, it seems to belong exclusively to those who need validation, and not a valid point of a concern.

Your all welcome to PM me a tell me off some more.. wow... :confused:

de8212

02-12-09, 07:45 AM

BTW... my 3725 was installed on Monday, and it supports my Sharp 52D85U quite solidly, and I don't find it stiff at all; it's a two handed job, but I can tilt and swivel quite easily. And my screen only weighs in at 70-few pounds, not much of a test when compared to those 58" plasmas you guys have been hanging up!

That's the only negative thing I can say about mine. And, I guess it's not exactly a negative. Of course, it may be just because it's new and I need to work it in/out a few times. Also, since I have a samsung 850, I'm hesitant because it's so think and I don't want something inside to "flex".

chinee

02-12-09, 08:42 AM

daMaster

02-12-09, 09:10 AM

Also had a 4563 mount installed for my 42" plasma which I think weighs just under 60 lbs. I'm more concerned about the strength of my drywall and metal studs than than I am about the mount's strength.
http://images.monoprice.com/productmediumimages/45631.jpg

By the way... does anyone know how much weight wall studs are rated to hold? Have they been they independantly tested... UL/ CSA/ ETL/ TUV tested? :D

Wood wall studs can hold up a whole lot more weight than any TV you're gonna put on there. Of course, proper installation and getting the right lag bolts properly secured into the wall studs is very important. That's what will determine how much weight you can put on it.

UPDATE: Oops, I didn't realize you had metal studs...

hc2

02-12-09, 09:29 AM

Also had a 4563 mount installed for my 42" plasma which I think weighs just under 60 lbs. I'm more concerned about the strength of my drywall and metal studs than than I am about the mount's strength.
http://images.monoprice.com/productmediumimages/45631.jpg

By the way... does anyone know how much weight wall studs are rated to hold? Have they been they independantly tested... UL/ CSA/ ETL/ TUV tested? :D
http://www.bretford.com/downloads/Brochure/b_broch_metalstud_reinforce.pdf

The wall will need some reinforcement.
For me personally, instead of tearing the wall out to put in wood studs, I would use a piece of plywood (not particle board). You can get it with a smooth finish side, even cabinet grade veneer.
Or you can go with:
http://www.mountsandmore.com/Chief-Manufacturing-PAC-115-CF1242.html#ProdDetails

Says it will support 150 lbs.

daMaster

02-12-09, 09:50 AM

http://www.bretford.com/downloads/Brochure/b_broch_metalstud_reinforce.pdf

The wall will need some reinforcement.
For me personally, instead of tearing the wall out to put in wood studs, I would use a piece of plywood (not particle board). You can get it with a smooth finish side, even cabinet grade veneer.
Or you can go with:
http://www.mountsandmore.com/Chief-Manufacturing-PAC-115-CF1242.html#ProdDetails

Says it will support 150 lbs.

Yup, I did the intermediate plywood board idea because my studs were 24" apart and the Mononprice 3725 mount's wall plate is only 19" apart.

I painted the plywood black using Krylon spray paint, even though it isn't visible from the top of the TV unless one is standing about 2 feet in front of it.

Here is a pic of the plywood and wall mount assembly:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=132283&stc=1&d=1233684625

Close-up:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=132282&stc=1&d=1233684625

avnuttyguy

02-12-09, 12:53 PM

By the way... does anyone know how much weight wall studs are rated to hold? Have they been they independantly tested... UL/ CSA/ ETL/ TUV tested? :D

Now I just have to give you credit for being so funny, that was a good one, really!
Yeah for you,,, you think a wood stud for building a house doesn't already meet a building standard! But of course here in this thread none of that would make any sense or no one would care if it did or not. Let's just trust everything made, including peanut butter, doesn't need to have some testing to meet a specification for safety, works for me!
Wouldn't it be great if all of the products we all purchase would be as cheap as wall mounts from the allmighty MONOPRICE, hey they could sell everything we all need at a lower cost, because they wouldn't need to pass along the cost of that testing/certification, I think all of you slamming me on my concern, are on to something big here. Lets not test anything anymore, we'll all be better off and much richer, I like that now that I'm semi-retired.

I'll save you all the trouble, yes, I'm NUTS.. Just could not resist being the "CRAZY" one again in this thread, hey, at least I didn't "repeat" the same old song and dance, I'm actually agreeing with you guy's! LMAO :D

fireman325

02-12-09, 02:02 PM

Now I just have to give you credit for being so funny, that was a good one, really!
Yeah for you,,, you think a wood stud for building a house doesn't already meet a building standard! But of course here in this thread none of that would make any sense or no one would care if it did or not. Let's just trust everything made, including peanut butter, doesn't need to have some testing to meet a specification for safety, works for me!
Wouldn't it be great if all of the products we all purchase would be as cheap as wall mounts from the allmighty MONOPRICE, hey they could sell everything we all need at a lower cost, because they wouldn't need to pass along the cost of that testing/certification, I think all of you slamming me on my concern, are on to something big here. Lets not test anything anymore, we'll all be better off and much richer, I like that now that I'm semi-retired.

I'll save you all the trouble, yes, I'm NUTS.. Just could not resist being the "CRAZY" one again in this thread, hey, at least I didn't "repeat" the same old song and dance, I'm actually agreeing with you guy's! LMAO :D

Yes!! We get it!! Monoprice mounts aren't UL tested!! Thank you for pointing that out to us over and over and over and over and over and over again!! What would we do without you?? I guess in your little fantasy world nothing ever fails after it's been UL tested and approved does it?

avnuttyguy

02-12-09, 02:47 PM

Yes!! We get it!! Monoprice mounts aren't UL tested!! Thank you for pointing that out to us over and over and over and over and over and over again!! What would we do without you?? I guess in your little fantasy world nothing ever fails after it's been UL tested and approved does it?

And you're a fireman? Ok, I know now this thread MUST be running on a monoprice directive. You really don't need to be so rude.

UL exists for safety, if anyone should be supportive of product testing and SAFE PRACTICES, I would think you would understand the reasoning behind product testing of all kinds, that's a little scary you do not see value in that.
Curious, do you follow the NFPA's National electrical code? Did you install your power cord or extension cord inside the wall? Even though its against CODE and for your safety, I'm sure you all here are wall mounting your TVs and know so much more than everyone else, good luck with that. Just because one of these mounts hasn't failed in the past year, doesn't mean it might not because someone installed too much weight on it and it was never tested for certain... WHATEVER, your all CORRECT, who cares as long as it's not your TV or person that MIGHT be hurt! No one including me should make any issue out of it and lets all TRUST the manufactures. I can't believe you all are slamming me for this, it just isn't logical.

What district are you a fireman in? Wonder if anyone who would depend on you to follow SAFE practices would care that you don't!
Just my opinion, since you decided to take me on and slam me all because I'm advocating a SAFETY CONCERN... Man, I see why some in this great country are SO SCREWED up and want to blame others for failures and not take any responsibility for themselves...

OK bring it on you now have me fired up with your rudeness, I have tried to take the high-road here, but you all have not. BTW, this is not a repetitive post, it's a REPLY to your RUDENESS.

workerbee3

02-12-09, 02:58 PM

I have not read through this entire thread, so I apologize if this has already been answered. Do you have to have a mount UL tested to sell it? Or is it something that is optional?

fireman325

02-12-09, 03:16 PM

And you're a fireman? Ok, I know now this thread MUST be running on a monoprice directive. You really don't need to be so rude.

UL exists for safety, if anyone should be supportive of product testing and SAFE PRACTICES, I would think you would understand the reasoning behind product testing of all kinds, that's a little scary you do not see value in that.
Curious, do you follow the NFPA's National electrical code? Did you install your power cord or extension cord inside the wall? Even though its against CODE and for your safety, I'm sure you all here are wall mounting your TVs and know so much more than everyone else, good luck with that. Just because one of these mounts hasn't failed in the past year, doesn't mean it might not because someone installed too much weight on it and it was never tested for certain... WHATEVER, your all CORRECT, who cares as long as it's not your TV or person that MIGHT be hurt! No one including me should make any issue out of it and lets all TRUST the manufactures. I can't believe you all are slamming me for this, it just isn't logical.

What district are you a fireman in? Wonder if anyone who would depend on you to follow SAFE practices would care that you don't!
Just my opinion, since you decided to take me on and slam me all because I'm advocating a SAFETY CONCERN... Man, I see why some in this great country are SO SCREWED up and want to blame others for failures and not take any responsibility for themselves...

OK bring it on you now have me fired up with your rudeness, I have tried to take the high-road here, but you all have not. BTW, this is not a repetitive post, it's a REPLY to your RUDENESS.

I do very much appreciate the importance of safety and safety testing, but after you've seen enough tested and approved devices fail you start to question whether such testing is worthwhile or not. Often times these failures are due to user error, but that's not always the case. What I'm trying to say is that in my experience and based on my own personal observation, industry safety testing isn't always all it's cracked up to be. Therefore, and again this is my personal opinion, I would never make the decision to buy or not buy something based on such criteria.

daMaster

02-12-09, 03:18 PM

Now I just have to give you credit for being so funny, that was a good one, really!
Yeah for you,,, you think a wood stud for building a house doesn't already meet a building standard! But of course here in this thread none of that would make any sense or no one would care if it did or not. Let's just trust everything made, including peanut butter, doesn't need to have some testing to meet a specification for safety, works for me!
Wouldn't it be great if all of the products we all purchase would be as cheap as wall mounts from the allmighty MONOPRICE, hey they could sell everything we all need at a lower cost, because they wouldn't need to pass along the cost of that testing/certification, I think all of you slamming me on my concern, are on to something big here. Lets not test anything anymore, we'll all be better off and much richer, I like that now that I'm semi-retired.

I'll save you all the trouble, yes, I'm NUTS.. Just could not resist being the "CRAZY" one again in this thread, hey, at least I didn't "repeat" the same old song and dance, I'm actually agreeing with you guy's! LMAO :D

If, according to you, any form of standardized testing guarantees against product failure, then why the heck does my Windows keep blue screening??? :D

avnuttyguy

02-12-09, 04:12 PM

If, according to you, any form of standardized testing guarantees against product failure, then why the heck does my Windows keep blue screening??? :D

OK SMART GUY, it's now your turn. ;)

Being RUDE to someone is taking the low road, so since you started this... I'm now ON the LOW ROAD with you!

First, NO WHERE have I stated that testing makes any guarantee. Please point out in all of my RANTING that I've said that.

I've also never said anything about the quality of the monoprice mounts! I've said, I'm sure they are OK and good, however, OTHERS, not me, claim "metal-flexing" concerns, THAT'S A FLAG if you ask me! I didn't make any negative claims to these cheap mounts other than BUYER BEWARE as the weight "guarantee" means nothing without testing proof, just a "claim"...

Of course having a UL does NOT mean it might not fail, it could, however at least having testing and by the way it happens 4 times each year for each product to assure consistency, mean there is at least some kind of assurance the parts used metal properties all meet the requirement for the intended use.

Obviously, you have not read my posts, you just see my name and criticize me as I've somehow regarded your decision as a threat to your being above anyone else.

The entire point of this has been to make aware because I was reading questions with regards to if the MP mount are any good and what about them holding my (model#) TV..
I wanted to save money just like you all, I called MP and asked them to show me testing that proves the mount I wanted to trust my $2000 TV on will be guaranteed by THEM to work with my TV. Monoprice said they had no written testing documentation and I just need to take their word for it... I was not OK with that... It's OK that you were/are, I'm NOT criticizing you for your decision!

I DID however buy 2 HDMI cables from them and some ink cartridges for my printer, so I'm not a MONOPRICE slammer. Print cartridges and cables are not a biggie for me to ask about testing, they work or they don't, no danger there, now or at anytime in the future,,,, fair enough? Understand?

So, back to "ALL" my posts that are SO REPETITIVE... DON'T READ THEM and STOP quoting them then!!!!! I'm replying to all of your rude and disrespectful comments!!! Just like I am now... I don't deserve being put down for bringing a FACT to light about a concern OTHERS on here reading and posting questions about them...

the OP fireman325 started the question in the first place! not ME!!! GET OFF ME MAN!!! :mad:

daMaster

02-12-09, 04:15 PM

OK SMART GUY, it's now your turn. ;)

Being RUDE to someone is taking the low road, so since you started this... I'm now ON the LOW ROAD with you!

First, NO WHERE have I stated that testing makes any guarantee. Please point out in all of my RANTING that I've said that.

I've also never said anything about the quality of the monoprice mounts! I've said, I'm sure they are OK and good, however, OTHERS, not me, claim "metal-flexing" concerns, THAT'S A FLAG if you ask me! I didn't make any negative claims to these cheap mounts other than BUYER BEWARE as the weight "guarantee" means nothing without testing proof, just a "claim"...

Of course having a UL does NOT mean it might not fail, it could, however at least having testing and by the way it happens 4 times each year for each product to assure consistency, mean there is at least some kind of assurance the parts used metal properties all meet the requirement for the intended use.

Obviously, you have not read my posts, you just see my name and criticize me as I've somehow regarded your decision as a threat to your being above anyone else.

The entire point of this has been to make aware because I was reading questions with regards to if the MP mount are any good and what about them holding my (model#) TV..
I wanted to save money just like you all, I called MP and asked them to show me testing that proves the mount I wanted to trust my $2000 TV on will be guaranteed by THEM to work with my TV. Monoprice said they had no written testing documentation and I just need to take their word for it... I was not OK with that... It's OK that you were/are, I'm NOT criticizing you for your decision!

I DID however buy 2 HDMI cables from them and some ink cartridges for my printer, so I'm not a MONOPRICE slammer. Print cartridges and cables are not a biggie for me to ask about testing, they work or they don't, no danger there, now or at anytime in the future,,,, fair enough? Understand?

So, back to "ALL" my posts that are SO REPETITIVE... DON'T READ THEM and STOP quoting them then!!!!! I'm replying to all of your rude and disrespectful comments!!! Just like I am now... I don't deserve being put down for bringing a FACT to light about a concern OTHERS on here reading and posting questions about them...

the OP fireman325 started the question in the first place! not ME!!! GET OFF ME MAN!!! :mad:

Sheesh! The Windows thing was just a joke. I was actually taking a stab at Microsoft, not you.

antiacid

02-12-09, 04:34 PM

Can those wallmounts be installed on concrete block walls?

hc2

02-12-09, 05:24 PM

Can those wallmounts be installed on concrete block walls?
Yes the "untested" ones from Monoprice include concrete anchors with the package. Not sure of other brands that have been UL tested though. :D

eddie501

02-12-09, 06:47 PM

Avnuttyguy please stop.

avnuttyguy

02-12-09, 07:27 PM

eddie,,, who made you the boss? I'll stop when you stop! Really??? Isn't this an open public forum? For use respectfully for open dialog between its members exchanging information? Tell me what part of my posts are incorrect? Not just stop...

You really have "balls" telling me to stop!

You have the choice to STOP reading my posts! How's that! Just stop reading them... duh!!!

Bud B

02-12-09, 07:51 PM

chinee

02-12-09, 07:55 PM

I have not read through this entire thread, so I apologize if this has already been answered. Do you have to have a mount UL tested to sell it? Or is it something that is optional?

Thanks to avnut, I think we all realize by now that a mount can be marketed and sold without being UL tested.

I get avnut's point (all 15 times he posted it:D)... using a non UL tested mount is like using a heavy duty extension cord to run power in your wall. It will work, and it may never pose a problem or danger, but there's always a chance it may. UL testing is a way to reduce the chance of failure, and give some users a little added peace of mind.

BTW... liked the peanut butter remark...

chinee

02-12-09, 08:13 PM

Hi all,
Not to break into your little Rant's and Raves
(that you have obviously gotten caught up with )
but to ask a question in relation to this actual post....which I believe is about Mounts (UL or Not)

Has anyone had any experience with this mount?

http://www.mountsmadesimple.com/category_s/31.htm

The video for this mount shows the mount being moved around with one hand!
Looks like a nice mount that I am considering for my Pioneer Kuro 5020FD
I honestly did NOT look to see if it is UL rated or not!
I saw it listed on Amazon.com

Thanks guys,
Bud

avnut... I think you may have started a UL-awareness thread here...

Bud B... you may want to start a mountmadesimple thread to obtain feedback, or search the forum for the model number. The video is great though, if the mount operates as well as it does in the video... it's a winner.

avnuttyguy

02-13-09, 10:54 AM

I have not read through this entire thread, so I apologize if this has already been answered. Do you have to have a mount UL tested to sell it? Or is it something that is optional?

Workerbee3

According to the UL website QA section:

Q: Do I need to have the UL Mark on my product in the US?
Is there a law stating that my product should have a UL Mark?
Does our product require UL testing?

A: Manufacturers submit products to UL for testing and safety certification on a voluntary basis. There are no laws specifying that a UL Mark must be used. However, in the U.S. there are many municipalities that have laws, codes or regulations which require a product to be tested by a nationally recognized testing laboratory before it can be sold in their area. UL is the largest and oldest nationally recognized testing laboratory in the United States. UL does not, however, maintain a list of the jurisdictions having such regulations.

If you plan to market your product nationally or internationally, it is advisable to obtain UL Listing. If a limited marketing program is anticipated, check with the Municipal office having jurisdiction in the particular areas to learn first hand the local retail ordinances or product installation requirements applicable in that area.

Many companies make it their policy to obtain UL Listing not only to minimize the possibility of local non-acceptance, but also as a matter of corporate policy and commitment to minimize the possibility of risk in the use of their products.[/

So, the answer is NO,,, no product must have any UL rating. I've NEVER stated monoprice is doing anything wrong by NOT having any tested certification. Just not acting as responcible as other manufactures have UL. Monoprice could have testing, but it's VERY expensive and would cause them to add to the cost of the mounts. I'm hopeful the monoprice owners are taking precautions to make sure their factory in China is using quality materials and standards in manufacturing. That's the RISK a consumer takes whan making purchases from any retailer/manufacturer. Look at the peanut butter fiasco, we trust our food to be safe, yet look what happens when companies act irresponcibly to protect the bottomline! Just saying some companies do care and others don't.

I've only been saying WHERE IS THE TESTING DOCUMENTATION to back their CLAIM and the materials/parts they use to make their mounts, do meet the STANDARDS set for wall mounts?

This a BUYER BEWARE CONCERN, since so many people have/had no idea.

One question for you all...

Would you be OK with having a electrician install electrical wiring, switches, outlets in you home that had no safety testing?

If NO, then why is a wall mount holding a 100lb+ TV on your wall any different?

Something to think about today before you invest in a wall mount.

THIS POST IS AN ACTUAL REPLY TO A QUESTION. NOT MY ABILITY TO REPEAT THE SAME RANT>>> ;)