jayoldschool
10-10-08, 02:21 PM
I have found the PLV-Z2000 in stock, with rebate available. Cost would work out to $200 more than the PLV-Z700. Which one to buy?
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View Full Version : PLV-Z2000 or PLV-Z700? jayoldschool 10-10-08, 02:21 PM I have found the PLV-Z2000 in stock, with rebate available. Cost would work out to $200 more than the PLV-Z700. Which one to buy? 42Plasmaman 10-10-08, 02:58 PM I have found the PLV-Z2000 in stock, with rebate available. Cost would work out to $200 more than the PLV-Z700. Which one to buy? Nice to see they extended the Z2000 rebate (http://us.sanyo.com/business/projectors/downloads/Z2000-Nav+CashRebateCertificate-Flyer.pdf) until 12/31. *The $600 rebate is valid only if you purcahse from an authorized dealer(see bottom of page2 of rebate forum). If you plan on keeping the projector for more than a few years, the Z2000 would be the better bet since the Z700 uses organic panels. The Z700 has the organic D7 panels instead of the inorganic D7 panels found on the Z2000. Here's a review with a small comparison between the two. http://www.projectorcentral.com/sanyo_z700_projector_review.htm . johnifehr 10-10-08, 04:14 PM The z2000 is definetly better with the newer d7 panels and higher contrast, but has a noisier iris which to me is still quiet cause I never hear it since my 7.1 dolby digital stereo is cranked. jayoldschool 10-10-08, 05:25 PM Just ordered the PLV-Z2000. Couldn't wait any longer! I should have bought it back in March when I first started looking at it. I am looking forward to finishing my theater and seeing this thing in action:D pdxjazz 10-10-08, 06:09 PM Both projectors are using D7 panels. Epson recently introduced a new, low cost organic D7 panel, and that is what the Z700 is using. It seems like a big step backwards to me considering the D6 inorganic panels have been on the market for some time now. Here is more info from Epson: http://www.epson.co.jp/e/newsroom/2008/news_20080909.htm johnifehr 10-10-08, 06:49 PM Yeah your right, the z700 uses D7 organic and z2000 uses D7 inorganic which don't wear out like organic ones do. BRAC 10-11-08, 12:22 PM Tough question... It depends what are priorities to you. For myself, I would take the Z2000 for the deeper black reproduction, but on the other hand, I would love to see how much better the new iris system is on the Z700. The iris on the Z2000 is its biggest weakness in my estimation. I have wasted countless hours fiddling with the iris system on the Z2000... And, as stated by others, if it's a long term investment, the Z2000 is the obvious choice for the inorganic panels. silentnoiz 10-11-08, 06:38 PM Funny, I called an authorized dealer yesterday and they told me that Sanyo is no longer offering the rebates for the Z2000. They must not have seen the extension yet. Thanks for posting! :) My old projector fried and I am anxious to replace. Have been contemplating waiting for the Z3000 to release, or just going with the Z2000. Such a great price on the Z2000 now, I may buy on Monday. From what I have seen, the Z2000 and Z700 are exactly the same price after rebates right now. :) yourtoys7 10-11-08, 09:47 PM I see that rebates back on, but I'm still thinking of z700 newer model over older z2000. I'm wondering how many people would see the difference between the two. From review " I slightly favor the PLV-Z2000, as it does do slightly better on black levels, and is easier to calibrate. They are very similar otherwise." I will be waiting for z700 unless I see other reviews or problems before z2000 rebate is expired. silentnoiz 10-11-08, 10:15 PM The only differences I see between the Z2000 and the Z700 are: - Feature: Z2000 ^ Z700 - Contrast: 15000:1 ^ 10000:1 - LCD Panels: Inorganic (longer lasting) ^ organic - Iris: Older ^ improved iris (faster and quieter) - Anamorphic lens: No fitting ^ has a fitting - dB: 19 ^ 21 - Weight: 16.1 lbs ^ 16.5 lbs - HDMI Version: 1.3a ^ 1.3b So with the price being EXACTLY the same, why would one purchase one over the other? Can someone chime in who knows more than me? :) I lean towards the Z2000 for the improved black levels. silentnoiz 10-11-08, 10:21 PM Meant to include this on the HDMI Version Feature. There is no difference to the consumer from version 1.3a to version 1.3b: http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/faq.aspx#112 BRAC 10-12-08, 09:41 AM The only differences I see between the Z2000 and the Z700 are: - Feature: Z2000 ^ Z700 - Contrast: 15000:1 ^ 10000:1 - LCD Panels: Inorganic (longer lasting) ^ organic - Iris: Older ^ improved iris (faster and quieter) - Anamorphic lens: No fitting ^ has a fitting - dB: 19 ^ 21 - Weight: 16.1 lbs ^ 16.5 lbs - HDMI Version: 1.3a ^ 1.3b So with the price being EXACTLY the same, why would one purchase one over the other? Can someone chime in who knows more than me? :) I lean towards the Z2000 for the improved black levels. Like I said above, price differences aside, it all comes down to iris vs contrast. And, organic vs inorganic, for some. Your priorities may differ from mine, but in order for me to make the proper decision, I'd have to compare them side by side. I like the Z2000 for deeper blacks, and I like the Z700 for the "supposed" improved iris. I'm not a fan of the Z2000 iris... The inorganic vs organic panel debate is not a factor for me, because the Z2000 is only a 2 year stepping stone to get me to fall 2010 and what I like to call, "my ULTIMATE projector".:D Of coarse, this is all assuming I didn't already own a Z2000 and had to make a choice.:eek: johnifehr 10-12-08, 10:54 AM I would choose z2000, which should give you a better more poppy picture cause the contrast is much higher and better blacks, I personaly don't mind the iris, I don't hear it but every now and then I see it working, but not that often, and for the fact it uses inorganic d7 panels makes it much better, even if you only keep it for a few years, atleast you can sell it and get a few bucks, I sure as heck wouldn't buy a used projector with organic panels.:) pdxjazz 10-12-08, 01:33 PM Assuming that the buy-in price on these two projectors is equal, then I would suggest the D7 organic vs D7 inorganic factor should merit real consideration even for buyers like BRAC that plan on keeping their projector for just a few years. Put yourself in the shoes of a used projector buyer, and consider they will be able to choose among LCD projectors with D7 inorganic panels, as well as those with D6 inorganic panels. And don't forget the used DLP and LCoS projectors that will also be available that don't have that issue. If you are trying to compete with a projector that is still using organic panels, you will most likely end up with a lower resale value, as well as a smaller pool of used projector buyers willing to take that risk. As johnifehr clearly put it "I sure as heck wouldn't buy a used projector with organic panels". I'm certainly not suggesting that used LCD projectors with organic panels are not any good, I am just pointing out that LCD technology has improved with the inorganic panels and you need to ask yourself before buying a new projector with organic panels- which used projector would you choose? jayoldschool 10-12-08, 09:42 PM That is pretty much what I was thinking, too. I keep my electronics forever. Still have my first Pioneer Elite ProLogic receiver, my LD player, two DD/DTS recievers, etc, etc. When the 700 was announced, I wanted to see if it was significantly lower than the 2000. Since it isn't, the choice is easy. I'm sure I'll be happy with the 2000 for a long time. BRAC 10-13-08, 03:07 AM Assuming that the buy-in price on these two projectors is equal, then I would suggest the D7 organic vs D7 inorganic factor should merit real consideration even for buyers like BRAC that plan on keeping their projector for just a few years. Put yourself in the shoes of a used projector buyer, and consider they will be able to choose among LCD projectors with D7 inorganic panels, as well as those with D6 inorganic panels. And don't forget the used DLP and LCoS projectors that will also be available that don't have that issue. If you are trying to compete with a projector that is still using organic panels, you will most likely end up with a lower resale value, as well as a smaller pool of used projector buyers willing to take that risk. As johnifehr clearly put it "I sure as heck wouldn't buy a used projector with organic panels". I'm certainly not suggesting that used LCD projectors with organic panels are not any good, I am just pointing out that LCD technology has improved with the inorganic panels and you need to ask yourself before buying a new projector with organic panels- which used projector would you choose? You make a good argument... Personally, I never buy electronics having resale as part of my thought process. And, most of the time, I give my old electronics to friends or family. But that's just me...;) jayoldschool, It sounds like you've made up your mind. You will be happy with the Z2000. Great projector... Thuppu 11-18-08, 05:22 AM The only differences I see between the Z2000 and the Z700 are: - Feature: Z2000 ^ Z700 - Contrast: 15000:1 ^ 10000:1 - LCD Panels: Inorganic (longer lasting) ^ organic - Iris: Older ^ improved iris (faster and quieter) - Anamorphic lens: No fitting ^ has a fitting - dB: 19 ^ 21 - Weight: 16.1 lbs ^ 16.5 lbs - HDMI Version: 1.3a ^ 1.3b So with the price being EXACTLY the same, why would one purchase one over the other? Can someone chime in who knows more than me? :) I lean towards the Z2000 for the improved black levels. In EU(germany) there is some difference with the price between theese two models... Z2000 >1245 euros, Z700 >999 euros. |