View Full Version : Sanyo PLV Z60 - New 720p model with 24fps
eightninesuited 10-12-08, 04:03 PM http://www.projectorcentral.com/images/articles/sanyo-z60-front.jpg
Just read reviews from Proj central (http://www.projectorcentral.com/sanyo_z60_projector_review.htm) and Proj Reviews (http://www.projectorreviews.com/sanyo/plv-z60/index.php); with both sties giving the Z60 the "Hot Product" title. Sanyo finally decided to add 24fps mode that handles blu-rays and the scaler seems to have tweaked and updated. Seems to be quiet, sharp and the clearest of the 720p budget projectors around. Supposedly, it's a slight improvement over the Z5 in every area. Can't wait to see one in person.
eightninesuited 10-25-08, 02:20 AM Just mentioning that there's a local store that just got one of these. I'm going to check it out tomorrow. If anyone has any questions ask away so I can keep in mind.
How is its color saturation compared to Epson Home Cinema 720's ?
Does it still do perfect vertical stretch in the Zoom mode (on 1080p signal) as the Z5 does ? This is for 2.35:1 anamorphic projection. You won't believe how amazing the movie look at 2.35:1 format from the Z5 projector, using DIY lens !!
I'm biased towards the Epson 720, based on the review at Projector Central (http://www.projectorcentral.com/epson_cinema_720_home_theater_projector_review.htm).
Thanks.
imprez25 11-11-08, 03:32 PM Does it still do perfect vertical stretch in the Zoom mode (on 1080p signal) as the Z5 does ? This is for 2.35:1 anamorphic projection. You won't believe how amazing the movie look at 2.35:1 format from the Z5 projector, using DIY lens !!
Any word on the strech mode? i just ordered this projector and just found out that the old z5 did the stretch and that this one might. How did the z5 acheive the stretch? If the z60 does vertical stretch then it will be an outstanding value!
eightninesuited 11-11-08, 03:54 PM How is its color saturation compared to Epson Home Cinema 720's ?
Does it still do perfect vertical stretch in the Zoom mode (on 1080p signal) as the Z5 does ? This is for 2.35:1 anamorphic projection. You won't believe how amazing the movie look at 2.35:1 format from the Z5 projector, using DIY lens !!
I'm biased towards the Epson 720, based on the review at Projector Central (http://www.projectorcentral.com/epson_cinema_720_home_theater_projector_review.htm).
Thanks.
I didn't get to fiddle with it, just made some minor adjustments via the remote. Didn't look at the stretch mode. Also, the picture quality to me seems more fluid than the Epson 720 (which I owned at one point). It was playing Iron Man on Blu-ray. Also, the biggest thing you notice is how the SDE is much reduced over the Epson 720. To me this would be the biggest reason to get one over the Epson. Otherwise, it doesn't matter.
docprego 11-11-08, 06:58 PM How is brightness on this one. I seem to remember one of the reviews saying it was one of the least bright projectors available. I'm looking to throw a 120" image from about 16 feet in a completely light controlled room, seating distance is 10 feet. Is this a total mismatch? On the one hand eightninesuited said above that SDE is very reduced, on the other hand I am concerned about the brightness.
eightninesuited 11-11-08, 11:42 PM How is brightness on this one. I seem to remember one of the reviews saying it was one of the least bright projectors available. I'm looking to throw a 120" image from about 16 feet in a completely light controlled room, seating distance is 10 feet. Is this a total mismatch? On the one hand eightninesuited said above that SDE is very reduced, on the other hand I am concerned about the brightness.
Throwing a 120" image with a seating distance of 10 feet is the real mismatch here. For that I'd go with a 1080p otherwise you're gonna see SDE for sure. I wouldn't go about 102" at that range. To me it was bright enough. Not as bright as the Epson, but not that dim.
docprego 11-11-08, 11:51 PM Throwing a 120" image with a seating distance of 10 feet is the real mismatch here. For that I'd go with a 1080p otherwise you're gonna see SDE for sure. I wouldn't go about 102" at that range. To me it was bright enough. Not as bright as the Epson, but not that dim.
Thanks, I am thinking I would be much better off with the Panasonic AX200U-no SDE at all.
imprez25 11-13-08, 09:11 AM I got my z60 last night and so far I have mixed feelings. This is my first lcd projector. Before this I have owned sony CRT projectors (1272 and 1251). I temporarily setup it up to see if I could get the width I needed for a CIH set up. I had a razor sharp image up in about 5 minutes, with the crt projector an acceptably sharp picture would take about 4 hours. I found the image at 109" wide to be bright enough for nighttime watching, and when zoomed into my 1.85:1 width I found the image to be quite bright. Especially compared to the crt projectors this one may replace.
The one issue in my quick set up that I did not like and the one area the crt spoiled me on is contrast. With my lowly 1251 and 1272 Sonys I was able to get completely black fade to blacks. So far the z60 is no where close to acceptable, an all black screen is clearly grey. I hope I can figure out how to get better blacks in the next day or so. Otherwise I'm going to have to stick with the CRT and send this unit back. :(
eightninesuited 11-13-08, 11:29 AM I got my z60 last night and so far I have mixed feelings. This is my first lcd projector. Before this I have owned sony CRT projectors (1272 and 1251). I temporarily setup it up to see if I could get the width I needed for a CIH set up. I had a razor sharp image up in about 5 minutes, with the crt projector an acceptably sharp picture would take about 4 hours. I found the image at 109" wide to be bright enough for nighttime watching, and when zoomed into my 1.85:1 width I found the image to be quite bright. Especially compared to the crt projectors this one may replace.
The one issue in my quick set up that I did not like and the one area the crt spoiled me on is contrast. With my lowly 1251 and 1272 Sonys I was able to get completely black fade to blacks. So far the z60 is no where close to acceptable, an all black screen is clearly grey. I hope I can figure out how to get better blacks in the next day or so. Otherwise I'm going to have to stick with the CRT and send this unit back. :(
It's a low cost 720p projector. Had you read the reviews, it clearly outlines it has acceptable black levels for a 720p for the price. You're going to have to move up to a Darkchip 3 720p DLP for the type of blacks you're looking for.
imprez25 11-13-08, 01:44 PM Yeah, I understand the price point for an inexpensive 720p projector. I guess I just expected better than what I got. I'm sure I will get use to it in the next few months if not I can always sell it for close to what I have into it.
On a positive note regarding the z60, I did confirm that it will do vertical stretch on 480i, 480p and 1080p sources using "zoom" under the screen menu. So, If I keep it, all I will need for CIH will be a lense. In the mean time I will just manualy zoom and use lense shift to fill the 2.40:1 screen.
still lurkin 11-18-08, 01:53 PM Newbie here.
there seems to be be white broken lines at the top of the screen.It also flickers . It disappears when I'm in the zoom mode.
Anyone know what it is and know how to get rid of it?
thanks.
skippy911 11-19-08, 03:49 PM I got mine today from proview digital and I must say it is amazingly quiet. I tested it at work in not the best of conditions, IT room with a tan colored wall, ambient light leaking in, and the unit not calibrated at all. I was amazed with the picture and can't wait to get it home tonight and try it out in some better settings :) If anyone wants me to test any features on the unit just let me know. Thus far color-me impressed with this little sanyo :)
> Anyone know what it is and know how to get rid of it?
Are you talking aboud DVD/BluRay or TV? If TV: Probably garbage from the broadcasting station - for example digital data, some kind of time stamps, etc. The first few lines ("overscan area") of a TV picture are not displayed by regular television sets and some stations will use them for such things. For these stations, you must set the projector to hide the overscan area.
still lurkin 11-21-08, 04:20 PM > Anyone know what it is and know how to get rid of it?
Are you talking aboud DVD/BluRay or TV? If TV: Probably garbage from the broadcasting station - for example digital data, some kind of time stamps, etc. The first few lines ("overscan area") of a TV picture are not displayed by regular television sets and some stations will use them for such things. For these stations, you must set the projector to hide the overscan area.
its when I play any movie whether dvd or via my Dish.
It's like white light I'm sure it's coming from the projecto that looks like this
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:confused:
imprez25 11-24-08, 09:58 AM That sounds like an over scan issue. Use the menues to adjust the overscan on the projector.
still lurkin 11-25-08, 02:08 PM That sounds like an over scan issue. Use the menues to adjust the overscan on the projector.
it appears when I use the svideo cable and disappears when I switch to compnent cables. Have yet to buy my hdmi :confused:
maneuen 11-26-08, 12:57 AM there doesn't seem to be much info out there on this in terms of user experiences ..aside from whats written on the 2 main review sites.
I'm torn between this, the epson 720, and the ax200.
what size screen are you using it with? light controlled? The only knock on this pj that I've heard of is that it is not very bright
imprez25 11-26-08, 10:15 AM I chose this projector because of the two reviews and the reviews of the z5 (and I was able to find it for less than $900 shipped). So far I am liking this projector more and more every time I watch it. My screen is a 111" wide x 46.5" 2.4:1 screen, and the 2x zoom makes the poor man's CIH easy to do. As far as brightness goes, for a smallish 16:9 screen (46.5x86) with ambient light I find it more than adequate. When I turn the lights down to watch a movie I wouldn't want it any brighter.
As the reviews state, pixelation is not a major issue with this projector provided you sit at least 1.2 screen widths back. When I zoom out for my 2.4:1 screen, I can start to make out the pixel structure on bright scenes. When I get a lens this should no longer be an issue.
I have yet to really tweak the picture settings. I created a user profile based on projectorreviews.com recommendation and the color tone and quality did seem to improve. However, like both reviews mentioned, colors out of the box were okay. When I get time I will calibrate the picture.
As I stated above in my initial impressions, black level seems to be lacking. However, that is my impression, and should be taken with a grain of salt, as I am use to CRT's ultimate blackness. :)
maneuen 11-26-08, 10:04 PM I'm making the move from crt as well, but a lowly ampro 2000 - which I feel I never had the sharpness and gamma set up well - so hopefully it will be an improvement all the way around.
johnnymg 01-08-09, 09:11 PM Just setup this projector and am quite pleased with the PQ.
Only minor complaints are the sloppy focus/zoom controls and that it's a bit louder than I expected.
JohnG
Jimmmmbo! 01-09-09, 02:10 PM This projector is currently a steal at street price + $100 factory rebate. This machine can easily cost less than 2 replacement bulbs for many projectors.
I just bought one and really appreciate the step up from my ancient PLV-60HD. It has some drawbacks such as not quite white whites, so-so scaling and not enough user memory locations.
But it has very good CR and excellent flesh-tone rendering and smoothness(well, maybe slightly orange, but I still need to do some calibrating). And it doesn't howl like my old PLV. Also can't beat replacement lamp pricing below $300.
This one will hold me over for a few years until 1080p projectors have matured a bit more and prices become more reasonable for higher quality projectors. Looks very good on a 106" 16x9 screen. I need to try replacing my grey screen material with my white screen to see if I can get more color-pop without too much hit on CR.
Adam-DiVine 02-22-09, 05:46 PM I am having a problem with this projector not displaying certain movies properly. It happens with some independent movies. No matter which mode I choose, the projector squishes the picture. With my old Infocus 4805, I would use the letterbox mode and the picture would be fixed. The zoom modes on this projector don't seem to do the fix. Is there something I am missing? If I can't view these movies properly, I am going to be pissed. The movie I was having a problem with was "Loving Annabelle".
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