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Nox
10-13-08, 07:18 PM
Am I the only one excited about this game?

I tried starting a thread in the PS3 forum (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1073597) about it, but no one seemed to care and the thread was quickly forgotten.

Well, I decided to order it on the 360 from Gamestop (Gamestop exclusive 6 missions / 3 hours of extra gameplay), and now I'm eagerly awaiting next Tuesday. I love the open sandbox gameplay and the physics involved. Can't wait!

Check out these HD videos showing actual 360 gameplay:
Part 1 (http://www.g4tv.com/trailers/hdvideos/28315/Far_Cry_2_DirectFeed_Mission_Gameplay_1_Xbox_360.html)
Part 2 (http://www.g4tv.com/trailers/hdvideos/28406/Far_Cry_2_DirectFeed_Mission_Gameplay_2_Xbox_360.html)
Part 3 (http://www.g4tv.com/trailers/hdvideos/28442/Far_Cry_2_DirectFeed_Mission_Gameplay_3_Xbox_360.html)

Tons more at GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/5229.html).

AHDTVDiet
10-13-08, 08:54 PM
I too am eagerly awaiting this game. I am probably going to pick it up at the same time I get Fable 2, but I dont know when I am going to play it. I expect it to be one of my longer games (outside of fallout) so I will probably save it till later when I beat the shorter games. Still I cant help but want to go out and pick it up day one though.

Only thing that concerns me is that all I see is shooting in these videos. Wheres the sneaking and setting traps and more importantly the wolverine like super "powers".... did they drop them from the franchise or are they holding onto them for a suprise for people that never played the franchise before?

jmill79
10-13-08, 09:26 PM
I too am anxious for this game, already pre ordered at GS. Im just dyin to play with the fire effects. and I dont want no stupid ass super powers, and fortunately havent seen anything stating there are any. Just let me be stealthy and set sheet on fire, and Ill be happy!!

AHDTVDiet
10-13-08, 09:35 PM
I too am anxious for this game, already pre ordered at GS. Im just dyin to play with the fire effects. and I dont want no stupid ass super powers, and fortunately havent seen anything stating there are any. Just let me be stealthy and set sheet on fire, and Ill be happy!!
So you dont so much want Far Cry as you want just a regular shooter with fire effects. Considering the "powers" were a main gameplay element of the first games.

ssbn733mt
10-13-08, 09:36 PM
This is a definite day 1 purchase. I can't wait to get my hands on the map editor. The number of multiplayer maps is going to be insane. Have they said for certain about adding carnivores to the multiplayer? It would be interesting as long as they didn't go overboard with it. Imagine lining up a sniper shot only to get tagged by a lion instead. Gimmicky? Yes but still pretty sweet.

jmill79
10-13-08, 09:44 PM
So you dont so much want Far Cry as you want just a regular shooter with fire effects. Considering the "powers" were a main gameplay element of the first games.

Everything of this game that I have seen so far make it look like a great game. I dont know of any goofy powers that you speek of from the first game, but nor do I care, anything else?
There have been absolutely no mention of any type of powers what so ever anywhere, so if thats what your looking forward to, I wouldnt hold my breath. If your refering to the "predetor mode" which I have seen a few people mention thay have removed that from this game.

AHDTVDiet
10-13-08, 09:58 PM
Well this game just dropped down my list to "get later". If its not going to have the same gameplay elements that made the first Far Cry great, well then its not really Far Cry and is just another shooter. There are much better "shooters" coming in the weeks ahead so I am in no hurry to play another generic one. Better games await!!!

Now I understand the lack of interest.

gmoney80
10-13-08, 09:58 PM
def. getting this one but for the pc, looking forward too giving my 4870x2 a challenge. This game looks amazing, but i like crysis and crysis warhead as well.

jmill79
10-13-08, 10:11 PM
Well this game just dropped down my list to "get later". If its not going to have the same gameplay elements that made the first Far Cry great, well then its not really Far Cry and is just another shooter. There are much better "shooters" coming in the weeks ahead so I am in no hurry to play another generic one. Better games await!!!

Now I understand the lack of interest.

I dont know man, the map creator looks pretty sweet, the fact you can start fires to weed out your enemy, I like how you can snipe a guy in the leg and he hops around on one foot and holds that leg, then if he falls over, his buddy comes over to help him up (single player) F'n brilliant if you ask me.

Im going on a shooter extravaganza with preorders of this, Gears 2 and COD WAW

Seems like this game has qualities that definately seperate it from any other above shooters and Im sure itll get plenty of play time.

jhoff80
10-13-08, 10:32 PM
Everything of this game that I have seen so far make it look like a great game. I dont know of any goofy powers that you speek of from the first game, but nor do I care, anything else?
There have been absolutely no mention of any type of powers what so ever anywhere, so if thats what your looking forward to, I wouldnt hold my breath. If your refering to the "predetor mode" which I have seen a few people mention thay have removed that from this game.

The powers were only present in the console versions of the game (Instincts / Instincts Evolution and Predator). The original game, Far Cry, didn't have any powers that I can remember, and was much better than at least the version for the first XBox.

I'm glad to hear none of that feral power crap is in the game, honestly. What made the first game stand out wasn't abilities, it was its open levels and many different ways to get through a level. Though if you only played the console versions (this isn't directed at the person I quoted, but the person who originally said it), then I don't blame you for thinking the abilities made the game stand out, since the console versions were made almost entirely linear.

Nox
10-13-08, 11:08 PM
So much is known, yet not known about this game.

I've watched a demo video from E3 (it's at GameTrailers, I believe. I'll post the link if I find it) and in the beginning the commentator mentions Far Cry 2 is a separate game from Far Cry 1 and there is no feral powers in it.

Aside from the game/story, I'm curious if there's any more wildlife. They've advertised wilder beasts, gazelles and zebras. But, it'd be very interesting if you're trying to cross an area ridden with lions or a herd of elephants. I've notices a lot of water in some video clips... it'd be great if there were crocodiles you had to look out for if you enter any rivers or lakes.

EDIT: No mutants video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU7lyFmgeFg)- stated in the beginning

mproper
10-14-08, 08:32 AM
I am definitely getting this, but depending on reviews, it might get pushed to next year when I can pick it up for cheaper. I'm still trying to finish GTAIV, which will take up October, and then Mirror's Edge and Gears 2 are just around the corner. Just not sure I can squeeze it in.

But everything I've seen of this makes it look like it's going to be great.

maximuslcd
10-14-08, 09:01 AM
I want to get this as I enjoyed the other far cry games but...with the new COD coming out and resistance 2 about the same time I have to make a choice. Far cry is a great series with alot of great gameplay...I may be forced to pick it up

Replicant Nexus6
10-14-08, 09:15 AM
<Looks at trailer>

That game is bought...

dubyahJay
10-14-08, 09:50 AM
<Looks at trailer>

That game is bought...

Agreed!

The initial reviews are solid so far, a 94 from PC gamer UK and 90 from OXBM.

Can't wait!

Aristo7905
10-14-08, 01:56 PM
I want to get this as I enjoyed the other far cry games but...with the new COD coming out and resistance 2 about the same time I have to make a choice. Far cry is a great series with alot of great gameplay...I may be forced to pick it up

I was thinking the same thing (About COD W@W) But after playing the Demo, i will wait for W@W to go down to about $40 before I pick it up (maybe a black friday amazon sale like last year).
This Far Cry game looks pretty interesting. I have never played the first one.
I already have Resistance 2 pre-ordered.. i think i will ad this one as well. Now the question is what platform to get it for.. PS3 or 360 (*Has anyone heard of differences between the 2?

-J

Nox
10-14-08, 06:20 PM
Now the question is what platform to get it for.. PS3 or 360 (*Has anyone heard of differences between the 2?

I've been looking for that answer myself. As far as I know, there's only one "comparison" video out there. It's from Ubisoft showing the game running on the PS3 and 360. It's not really a comparison video, but it's the closest thing to see the difference between the two as of now. And the results are inconclusive.

I think it comes down to personal preference. I went with the 360 version only because I prefer the controller slightly over the PS3's (now if the PS3 version also supports keyboard/mouse... I might be a little uptight).

jasonstiller
10-15-08, 12:48 AM
can you tell me where u saw that comparo vid at?

Nox
10-15-08, 10:35 AM
can you tell me where u saw that comparo vid at?

Here you go: Console sneak peek (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34591.html)

Like I mentioned, it's not really a comparison between the two, but it does showclips from both consoles.

Mark_Likes_Games
10-15-08, 04:28 PM
I loved the map editor in the original Xbox version - and this looks better. But the lack of 4 player split-screen support WHILE SYSTEM LINKED killed it for us on Xbox ... we went back to playing Halo 2.

If they let 8 players play local system link on just two consoles, that will seal it for me. I LOVED making maps even on Xbox - they really did a great job with that.

Oh - and I thought the feral powers were rad and pretty well done. Otherwise it would have been a pretty generic shooter with an excellent map creator...

People are already playing this. (Early copies to GameStop guys.) Please post if you hear anything about the split-screen support. Thanks!

SAVholic
10-16-08, 12:00 AM
I'm still debating If I'll get this game or not (PC or 360 "don't know yet") The thing that will convince me is the multiplayer, if this is as adictive as: COD4/Halo3/Gears then I'll dig in to it.

Nox
10-16-08, 12:26 AM
People are already playing this. (Early copies to GameStop guys.) Please post if you hear anything about the split-screen support. Thanks!

Whoa... early for Gamestop preorders? I preordered from them.

It looks like I'll be giving them a call tomorrow.

Nox
10-16-08, 01:01 AM
*Spoiler*
YouTube: Far Cry 2 intro video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Yd1SuCCM0)
*/Spoiler*

I personally haven't viewed the entire thing... only a bit of the beginning. If you don't want to spoil the intro before you get the game, then don't open the link. Also, be careful of the comments below the video. When I was there, someone blurted out some big parts of it.

After Mark mentioned that some people already have the game, I did a little searching. Sure enough, on other forums people are saying the same thing. Gamestop has given them out. The people I found knew someone working at the store, though, so the general public may not be able to get their copy yet.

N8DOGG
10-16-08, 01:03 AM
I'm getting it but on pc, it';s gonna be sweet!

Eyes Only
10-16-08, 06:48 AM
I can't help but be a little suspect of Far Cry 2 due to there not being that many reviews so close to release.

Degenerazn
10-16-08, 01:28 PM
The first Far Cry on Xbox360 was pretty bad. I'm not expecting much from this one unless it universally gets high reviews. Plus, too many other games coming out nowadays

Nox
10-16-08, 06:52 PM
I went to my local Gamestop and confirmed that only the managers received copies of Far Cry 2. So any that are in the wild right now are either manager copies or pirated.

Naylia
10-16-08, 06:54 PM
No co-op :(

Nox
10-16-08, 07:50 PM
No co-op :(

I've also discovered through other forums that the split screen mode is only for system link or Live.

newfmp3
10-16-08, 09:58 PM
got to try this today, about 45mins. Initial impression ... crap

the aimimg is borderline horrible, the way the story opens up is sloppy, the voice acting is really bad and they talk too fast and forget to pause between sentences. I was actually laughing at it. The few guys i got to shoot, it seemed like i had to unload an entire clip into them to kill them. Game does look purdy though.

far cry on pc was/is one of my fav. all time games. I finished the console versions of instinct as well but they were really sad compared to pc version. I need more time with this but not impressed so far. Dead space is better so far.

irmoballen
10-16-08, 11:16 PM
got to try this today, about 45mins. Initial impression ... crap

I have to agree with you on this one........I played for a few hours because I really really wanted to love this game, but it's just not happening. Not only are the missions tedious, (i.e. you have to drive for a good 5-10 minutes for each mission) but the aiming just isn't right, even after buying the accuracy "upgrades."

But you are right, the game is absolutely gorgeous.

PS: And 95% of the time you are on foot, you are looking for a car to get to the next objective.

newfmp3
10-17-08, 12:43 AM
I have to agree with you on this one........I played for a few hours because I really really wanted to love this game, but it's just not happening. Not only are the missions tedious, (i.e. you have to drive for a good 5-10 minutes for each mission) but the aiming just isn't right, even after buying the accuracy "upgrades."

But you are right, the game is absolutely gorgeous.

PS: And 95% of the time you are on foot, you are looking for a car to get to the next objective.

that's too bad, I was hoping it would eventually get better.

I guess this game is a "far cry" from the original huh :)

jasonstiller
10-17-08, 01:49 AM
damn, thats really sad news :( I was really pumped for this one.

Shasta Hawk
10-17-08, 07:14 AM
Only thing that concerns me is that all I see is shooting in these videos. Wheres the sneaking and setting traps and more importantly the wolverine like super "powers".... did they drop them from the franchise or are they holding onto them for a suprise for people that never played the franchise before?

The original pc version, which the console versions were based on, never had the predator abilities. They took FC2 back to it's 'roots' and its a good thing in my opinion

Shasta Hawk
10-17-08, 07:22 AM
Well this game just dropped down my list to "get later". If its not going to have the same gameplay elements that made the first Far Cry great, well then its not really Far Cry and is just another shooter. There are much better "shooters" coming in the weeks ahead so I am in no hurry to play another generic one. Better games await!!!

Now I understand the lack of interest.

Far Cry Instincts, the first console version of Far Cry, was not the first one. The first Far Cry was for pc only. You would know this if you did even a little research. And FC is not just another generic shooter. Its going to be a great game with a lot of variety with it's awesome map editor

WilliamR
10-17-08, 08:02 AM
I've also discovered through other forums that the split screen mode is only for system link or Live.

I really can't understand why developers are so lazy that they will not add their multi-player to be 2 people on the same x-box. They force you to play on live, which is not nearly as fun as having two people in the same room. System link sucks because you need two TV's or someone has to drag their xbox to the other's place.

mproper
10-17-08, 09:01 AM
I really can't understand why developers are so lazy that they will not add their multi-player to be 2 people on the same x-box. They force you to play on live, which is not nearly as fun as having two people in the same room. System link sucks because you need two TV's or someone has to drag their xbox to the other's place.

It's probably not laziness, but more having to force one machine to output 2 versions of the same game, which is much more resource intensive, and would result in something having to be dropped (framerates, graphics, resolutions...etc).

Aristo7905
10-17-08, 10:01 AM
I have to agree with you on this one........I played for a few hours because I really really wanted to love this game, but it's just not happening. Not only are the missions tedious, (i.e. you have to drive for a good 5-10 minutes for each mission) but the aiming just isn't right, even after buying the accuracy "upgrades."

But you are right, the game is absolutely gorgeous.

PS: And 95% of the time you are on foot, you are looking for a car to get to the next objective.

That stinks. Well i appreciate the review. I guess this will be a buy used (when cheap) game.

Thanks,
-J

Eyes Only
10-17-08, 10:11 AM
The small number of reviews listed on metacritic.com seem to give this great marks. Still early days for more reviews though. We shall see.

Nox
10-17-08, 10:20 AM
It's probably not laziness, but more having to force one machine to output 2 versions of the same game, which is much more resource intensive, and would result in something having to be dropped (framerates, graphics, resolutions...etc).

This is true. Look at Halo 3, for example. Adding even one player on split screen removes the dynamic water effects. Sure, it's only a small detail, but it's each detail that adds to the experience.

sirjonsnow
10-17-08, 12:50 PM
There were dynamic water effects in Halo 3?

I do like playing games with friends, but you lose so much field of view with split screen that I'm fine with online co-op.

jattsp
10-17-08, 03:49 PM
i actually love the game, its fantastic. Its not one of those run and gun games, cause usually if you try that you will get killed in this game. For people that find it hard to find cars to travel you can always find a bus station that can take to your objective. You really have to some kind of tactic when completing your missions, such as scouting the place out to find where you can get med kits, or where the snipers or mounted machine guns are. The aiming is fine, its just that it doesn't register shots sometimes. This game is absolutely gorgeous probably one of the finest xbox games to be released, and it plays smooth. The game feels really cinematic they way the game opens, the animations, they way you receive missions, overall its really well done.

irmoballen
10-17-08, 03:53 PM
For people that find it hard to find cars to travel you can always find a bus station that can take to your objective.

I have to admit, I just found the bus stations about 30 minutes ago and they help A LOT. As for the aiming, I still compare it to gears of war in the amount of bullets that it takes to take down one guy. Anything other than a head shot is just a pain in the ass.

Nox
10-18-08, 02:38 PM
What about the maps you create? How do other people play them after you create them? Are they uploaded to Xbox Live or perhaps a Ubisoft server? Also, I wonder if they are cross platform... if the maps can be used with the PS3 and PC versions if they are uploaded to a Ubisoft server.

Fragster
10-18-08, 03:08 PM
Is the aiming as bad (clumsy) as in FC-Instincts? That was one of the bad things in FC-I that totally threw me off :-(.

jattsp
10-18-08, 10:36 PM
What about the maps you create? How do other people play them after you create them? Are they uploaded to Xbox Live or perhaps a Ubisoft server? Also, I wonder if they are cross platform... if the maps can be used with the PS3 and PC versions if they are uploaded to a Ubisoft server.

Nox there is a built in option in the menu called publish, which is probably uploading to the ubisoft servers so other can download it.

Fragster aiming isn't bad, its just sometime when you shoot it doesnt register a hit all the time. And most of the time like 8/10 shots will register, i guess some are finding that it can take a lot ammo to down an enemy.

Mark_Likes_Games
10-20-08, 06:45 PM
I really can't understand why developers are so lazy that they will not add their multi-player to be 2 people on the same x-box. They force you to play on live, which is not nearly as fun as having two people in the same room. System link sucks because you need two TV's or someone has to drag their xbox to the other's place.

Wait - Nox said, "I've also discovered through other forums that the split screen mode is only for system link or Live."

Split screen means more than one person on one Xbox... so I don't understand the comment.

What I want to know is: Can 8 players play multiplayer in split screen on just two 360's system linked??? That would be awesome for the custom maps.

5150
10-21-08, 12:32 AM
There's no local or Live split screen, so there's no purchasing it for me.

I could care less about tiny details--I want to have fun with my friends. I mean real friends, all in the same room. You know, people that I know and enjoy being around.

confidenceman
10-21-08, 01:06 AM
Wow. Just watched that intro clip. This looks awesome. Probably not a day-one purchase for me, but I'll definitely be picking this up sometime in the not-to-distant future. Thanks for the link to that clip!

Nox
10-21-08, 05:38 AM
Wait - Nox said, "I've also discovered through other forums that the split screen mode is only for system link or Live."

Split screen means more than one person on one Xbox... so I don't understand the comment.

What I want to know is: Can 8 players play multiplayer in split screen on just two 360's system linked??? That would be awesome for the custom maps.

I didn't mean to misguide anyone.

Don't take what I mentioned as fact. I only read it on some other forum by people like us with no clue about the final game.

The only way were going to know what the multiplayer options are really like is to wait and try the game ourselves.

Eyes Only
10-21-08, 09:51 AM
This game is officially out today isn't it???

Has anyone managed to play some and have any details for us folks sitting on the fence on whether to buy this or not?

warcrow
10-21-08, 10:10 AM
There's no local or Live split screen, so there's no purchasing it for me.

I could care less about tiny details--I want to have fun with my friends. I mean real friends, all in the same room. You know, people that I know and enjoy being around.

Sorry--but it must be done to stop the spread of madness. :)

http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/caring-continuum.jpg

Mark_Likes_Games
10-21-08, 12:28 PM
There's no local or Live split screen, so there's no purchasing it for me.

I could care less about tiny details--I want to have fun with my friends. I mean real friends, all in the same room. You know, people that I know and enjoy being around.

5150 - I am with you, that's how I play also. (Not to mention the fact that I don't have broadband...)

But are you sure about that? Sometimes there is split-screen on one Xbox, but then when you link them locally it goes to one player per box. (FarCry Instincts/Predator did this on original Xbox - I hate that...)

Can anyone confirm how the split-screen is set up for this game? Post results when you have tried it on a 360 - thanks!

5150
10-21-08, 01:45 PM
Sorry--but it must be done to stop the spread of madness. :)

We all have our over-riding missions in life. I'm glad you've found yours.

Mindwarper
10-21-08, 01:54 PM
I politely disagree. I love system link and think all multiplayer games should have it. I don't share my big tv screen. Instead, I have three tvs in one room. Each of us has our own screen and it is a blast.

I really can't understand why developers are so lazy that they will not add their multi-player to be 2 people on the same x-box. They force you to play on live, which is not nearly as fun as having two people in the same room. System link sucks because you need two TV's or someone has to drag their xbox to the other's place.

Degenerazn
10-21-08, 02:20 PM
I politely disagree. I love system link and think all multiplayer games should have it. I don't share my big tv screen. Instead, I have three tvs in one room. Each of us has our own screen and it is a blast.

That is quite a luxury that many of us can't afford. For the rest of us, split screen is all we got.

5150
10-21-08, 02:39 PM
In any event, it would just be nice to have some form of local multiplayer. Halo 3 is close to the ideal implementation of it.

Aristo7905
10-21-08, 02:49 PM
That is quite a luxury that many of us can't afford. For the rest of us, split screen is all we got.

Or have the space for.

Davy
10-21-08, 02:58 PM
http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/caring-continuum.jpg

Excellent :D

ultracat
10-21-08, 07:48 PM
Surprised to hear people aren't liking it. There's some very positive reviews. IGN gives it 8.8/10 for example. Oh well, GOW2 is coming....

p.s. This will be printed on our large colour poster printer at work tomorrow and hung prominently on the wall by my desk:

Sorry--but it must be done to stop the spread of madness. :)

http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/caring-continuum.jpg

confidenceman
10-21-08, 07:56 PM
Surprised to hear people aren't liking it. There's some very positive reviews. IGN gives it 8.8/10 for example. Oh well, GOW2 is coming...I don't think anyone said they didn't like it. So far, I'll I've seen in this thread are people complaining that the game doesn't have local multiplayer, or *gasp* system link and multiple systems/displays. :eek:

DaGamePimp
10-22-08, 05:03 AM
I don't like it , which is probably no big shock to anyone ;) .

What a disappointment this game is , it's just plain bad IMO :( . My cousin rented it and we tried to get into it for a couple hours but it just is not any fun to play (so back to the rental store it went) .

Honestly the graphics are not all that impressive either , nice but nothing spectacular .

With Dead Space here now and Gears 2 coming soon I see no reason to buy Far Cry 2 unless you can get it really cheap ;) .

- Jason

Mindwarper
10-22-08, 12:26 PM
I was saying that not all of us hate system link. I am not so interested in farcry 2 because I love co op and it doesn't have any. But I did love farcry on the pc. It was one of those games that realy made gaming fun. We set it up a lan game and it was just so much fun.

That is quite a luxury that many of us can't afford. For the rest of us, split screen is all we got.

ultracat
10-22-08, 01:07 PM
I don't like it , which is probably no big shock to anyone ;) .

What a disappointment this game is , it's just plain bad IMO :( . My cousin rented it and we tried to get into it for a couple hours but it just is not any fun to play (so back to the rental store it went) .

Honestly the graphics are not all that impressive either , nice but nothing spectacular .

With Dead Space here now and Gears 2 coming soon I see no reason to buy Far Cry 2 unless you can get it really cheap ;) .

- Jason

Same here actually. I'm just playing Dead Space right now and I bet that will keep me busy until Fallout 3 / Gears 2 / COD5 are out in the next few weeks.

DFul4d
10-22-08, 03:42 PM
I don't like it , which is probably no big shock to anyone ;) .

What a disappointment this game is , it's just plain bad IMO :( . My cousin rented it and we tried to get into it for a couple hours but it just is not any fun to play (so back to the rental store it went) .

Honestly the graphics are not all that impressive either , nice but nothing spectacular .

With Dead Space here now and Gears 2 coming soon I see no reason to buy Far Cry 2 unless you can get it really cheap ;) .

- Jason

Maybe you would have liked it better if you kept playing (as with Dead Space) ;)

DaGamePimp
10-22-08, 03:49 PM
Maybe you would have liked it better if you kept playing (as with Dead Space) ;)

Not really enough there to like IMO , Dead Space was at least compelling to play and after a couple hours it was 'all good' ( while FC2 was just plain boring after 2 hours , the whole game just feels sloppy ) . ;)

- Jason

DFul4d
10-22-08, 04:10 PM
Not really enough there to like IMO , Dead Space was at least compelling to play and after a couple hours it was 'all good' ( while FC2 was just plain boring after 2 hours , the whole game just feels sloppy ) . ;)

- Jason

That's sad to hear, It looked really cool in all the videos I had seen. The critics seem to like it ok. http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/farcry2?q=far%20cry%202

I think I will still give it a rental.

DaGamePimp
10-22-08, 04:34 PM
Never base game choices on anything that I say , I am overly critical ;) .

- Jason

superklye
10-22-08, 07:56 PM
I'm about 10 minutes in...just got rescued and out of the first town. So far it's not too bad, but what the hell is with the dialog? For starters, it's REALLY low in the mix and second, WHY DOES EVERYONE TALK SO FAST? It's like they only had 30 min to do the entire game's dialog so everyone is talking as fast as possible.

superklye
10-23-08, 01:46 AM
So I finally stopped playing (apart from a few piss breaks) at 11:45pm.

Holy.
****ing.
****.

I LOVE this game!

Are the graphics as great as they could/should be? No.
Is the dialog meh and spoken WAY too fast? Yes.
Is the environment anywhere near as destructible as it should be? No.

But even despite all this, I could not tear myself away. Being so physically tired I wanted to vomit finally did it for me. The missions are typical GTA style go-all-the-way-across-the-map-to-deliver/kill-something/someone fare, but combat is so much fun! Guns feel great, explosions are crazy, the physics are amazing and the fire is...wow. You just have to see it in action.

I've barely done any of the story at all because I've been so busy exploring (trying to find all 221 briefcases and 57 guard booths) and doing side missions for the weapons dealers to unlock more guns. I'm sorta pissed...I have 19 diamonds (the currency in-game) and the flamethrower (which I JUST unlocked) costs 20d! DAMN IT! Razz

All in all though, I'm very, VERY pleased with my $60 purchase, that's for damned sure.

CHAVAN30
10-23-08, 07:10 AM
i picked it up, jumped right in the mp, and..........i will give it some more time tonight.

graphics are not good. i read everywhere how good they were. maybe they are just not pleasing to me. kinda looks like BF:BC.

jasonstiller
10-23-08, 07:28 AM
IMO this game is great. Apparently its a love it or hate it thing. To me, its a fantastic change of pace in regards to FPS'. The graphics are the best ive seen so far on the 360. Gameplay is engaging too. Man ive had so many seat of the pants moments. Oh and watch out while checking your map ha ha. i was spendin some time checkin it out in my jeep and a patrol truck came out of nowhere and lit me up. One gripe, it seems that the hit detection is way off when using the 50 cals in the gun trucks. Thats pretty gay. Other than that its great.

superklye
10-23-08, 09:14 AM
graphics are not good. i read everywhere how good they were. maybe they are just not pleasing to me. kinda looks like BF:BC.
Whaaaaaaaaaat?

BF:BC looks 10x better than this game. Maybe it's the muted color palette and the camera grain effect that cover up graphical problems, but I honestly think BF:BC is one of the best looking games I've seen to date on 360.

Nox
10-23-08, 07:36 PM
I agree that the control is not good.

Let's see if I can explain how it reacts...
When you use the analog stick to look around, it goes from moving very slow to extremely fast.

It disconnects my game from allowing me to move my character in a natural way. For instance, if I'm to strafe around an object and line it in my sights, I move the camera to always follow the object no matter which way I'm running/walking. The way Far Cry's movement is set up, it's very difficult to keep the object on sight without over compensating. The camera pushes too far off to one side. It's a lot like having mouse acceleration "on" in windows/OSX. In which, I'd prefer it set to "off".

The sensitivity slider does not help the situation at all.

It's frustrating and I doubt there will be any patch to "fix" this because I don't believe Ubisoft would think anything is broken.

After all, I'm sure there are plenty of players out there that love the control. I'm just not one of them. And without good control, it ruins the entire game. Sigh.

Mark_Likes_Games
10-23-08, 07:42 PM
Well - I did some searching and it seems Ubisoft left out local split-screen play for this title on purpose. I guess it's a no-go for me and back to Halo3... Too bad, because that editor looks awesome / outstanding.

I've got to skip it since I would be tempted to spend hours upon hours in that editor crafting environments and fun maps that would NEVER BE PLAYED ON.... Oh well. :(

Degenerazn
10-24-08, 01:51 PM
This game got some pretty solid reviews. The one from Gametrailers made it look especially good, but people here are saying it sucks, for the most part. I'm torn, but with so many other good games coming out, I'll have to just wait and see.

Nox
10-24-08, 03:01 PM
This game got some pretty solid reviews. The one from Gametrailers made it look especially good, but people here are saying it sucks, for the most part. I'm torn, but with so many other good games coming out, I'll have to just wait and see.

I don't think it sucks at all. I like it a lot. But I do have a problem with the way it controls.

Like you said, it's gotten some pretty solid reviews, so I must be in the minority about the control issue.

DaGamePimp
10-24-08, 08:21 PM
I didn't like the sloppy feel to the control either , you are not alone there .

- Jason

confidenceman
10-24-08, 09:11 PM
This game got some pretty solid reviews. The one from Gametrailers made it look especially good, but people here are saying it sucks, for the most part. I'm torn, but with so many other good games coming out, I'll have to just wait and see.I think it's just a few vocal people who are saying it sucks. It's really a fantastic game.

If you're a graphics whore, you might have a problem with it (quite a bit of screen tearing, framerate drops, some shoddy texture work), but damn this game is seriously fun!! It takes a couple hours before the training wheels come off and you start roaming the map; that's when the game becomes a jaw-dropping experience. I'd compare it to the (console versions) of GTAIII, Vice City, and San Andreas. None of those games looked very good and they all had tons of bugs and weird AI issues, but they put you in a world that felt alive.

Like those games, Far Cry 2 is all about emergent gameplay. You do things your own way, and **** usually goes wrong is some unpredictable way, and you have to react on the fly. That leads to unique experiences. Once you go through a few of those wild series of events, you'll be hooked.

I've been playing now for about six hours and I keep discovering new things that this game can do. The "buddy system" is a cool way to give you an extra life, and he/she reacts to what's happening in the area where you died. For example, if there's a sniper shooting at the two of you, he/she will give you a heads up. The dialogue often adapts to the situation, and even if it sounds "fast," it doesn't sound "clipped" and unnatural the way most branching dialogue can sound (*cough* Mass Effect *cough*).

Sure, the game's got issues, but you get over them pretty quickly.

And, no, the multiplayer is nothing to write home about. This game's all about the single-player experience.

marcellusk
10-25-08, 03:28 PM
can some one tell me how the button lay out is? really...i just wanna know if the left trigger zooms in or do you click the right analog stick?

confidenceman
10-25-08, 04:55 PM
can some one tell me how the button lay out is? really...i just wanna know if the left trigger zooms in or do you click the right analog stick?You can't customize the layout, but there are a few different pre-sets layouts you can choose from. By default, zoom is with a trigger button. The only really awkward thing with the default layout is the sprint button (pushing in the control stick).

jmill79
10-26-08, 09:46 AM
Same as COD for the sprint, aim , and fire. I think this is a great game, and looks fantastic for having 20 square miles of land to play on (2 maps) with no load limes (unless you take the bus) LMFAO, BF:BC looks like ass compared to this. If your unsure rent, but I feel Ill definately get my 60 bucks worth during my 50 hours of game play and exploration.

confidenceman
10-26-08, 01:57 PM
If your unsure rent, but I feel Ill definately get my 60 bucks worth during my 50 hours of game play and exploration.Not just that, but once you commit to certain missions that makes other missions unplayable unless you play through the game again (and again). I'm already planning how I'll play through differently the next time.

Even more, since I'm playing on "Hardcore" difficulty my first time through, that leaves an additional difficulty spike for another trip, too. Amazing game. Here's how much I'm digging this game: I picked up LittleBigPlanet yesterday--a game I've been waiting excitedly for a year to play--and I keep coming back to Far Cry 2 instead.

aegisx
10-26-08, 02:22 PM
Is this a Mercenaries type of game? Far Cry 1 seemed more of a straight FPS.

N8DOGG
10-26-08, 03:04 PM
I've played on the 360 and the pc. The 360 control is horrible and the graphics are ok but the pc version looks really good and of course the controls are spot on.
There is a real lack of animals and the envrioment seems very dead. I don't have a problem with how fast people talk so far and the multi is ok when playing a deathmatch but to me all the others are very dull.
Once they get a patch and sort out the server issues, it will be much better.

confidenceman
10-26-08, 03:33 PM
Is this a Mercenaries type of game? Far Cry 1 seemed more of a straight FPS.Not really at all. It's only like Mercenaries in that it's also an open-world game and you are a mercenary. It's a totally different type of game with a completely different feel. Far Cry 2 has much more in common with the Elder Scrolls series (Morrowind, Oblivion), but with FPS gameplay set in a modern-day African country in the midst of a civil war.

Far Cry 2 is by Ubisoft Montreal (developer of Assassin's Creed, Splinter Cell, and Prince of Persia). Far Cry 1 was made by Crytek (makers of the recent Crysis). Very, very different developers with very different design philosophies.

I've played on the 360 and the pc. The 360 control is horrible and the graphics are ok but the pc version looks really good and of course the controls are spot on.Take it to the PC forum. We all know, "But the PC version looks sooooo much better!" Never heard that one before...

steven975
10-26-08, 09:34 PM
I noticed the lack of animals in the beginning, too.

I'm about 8% now, and zebras are always getting in the way. Haven't seen a lion yet, though.

And, yea, I'm on PC so the graphics are totally impressive. The PSN preview I watched definitely was several steps down graphically. I also like that I can save anytime, too.

N8DOGG
10-26-08, 11:44 PM
Take it to the PC forum. We all know, "But the PC version looks sooooo much better!" Never heard that one before..

ya I have both at my place right now and it does look sooooo much better.
Quit being a douche, I have both and was giving my take on them both.

Replicant Nexus6
10-27-08, 10:24 AM
Interestingly, I started off feeling this game was mediocre, like many other people have mentioned here.

I dont know what it is, but after playing several hours, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! :D

Seriously, I really dont know what it is. When I first started I was thinking, graphics are good but not fantastic, textures are a bit off, control is decent. Story is nearly non existent. Whatever. I didnt see the big deal at all.

Now after playing for a while, standing on a jutting rock overlooking miles of Savannah on a misty morning as the sun peeks over the mountains in the background with zebras and gazelles in the distance... feels incredible.

I think I officially fell in love with the game when I was having a sniper battle with some dude who was entrenched in a mountain and we kept trying to pick each other off. The sound and the sight of his bullets occasionally hitting the tree I was hiding behind would freak me out each time. Finally, it looks like his shots set off the dry brush near him into a wild fire and he BURNED HIMSELF TO DEATH by mistake!! Hilarious :D

If you've given the game a few hours and still feel its not your bag, I can understand. Its not doing anything new except for being a relatively massive open world game with zero load times and a very good framerate (although Crackdown did that well too, so...).

My recommendations for fully enjoying the game if you're even semi-interested its concept are:

1) Immediately turn background music off. Its a waste of sense of reality.
2) Explore whatever interests you (finding outposts and diamonds) versus strictly focusing on the "storyline"
3) Understand that there is no "teleport" option and most of the time for missions and weapon convoy attacks you will be travelling from one part of the map to the other. Annoying, but not a deal breaker if you try to "enjoy" the ride (i.e, look for diamonds\safe houses)
4) Play loud on SS or with headphones to enjoy the incredible job the sound folks did with bringing a slice of Africa to life. Theres nothing freakier than being on foot in the jungle at 3 in the morning and hearing a patrol convoy ambling up a road.

Quick official roundup:

Graphics - 8.5 - Very good. Guns look great, textures are a bit muddled but frame rate is solid. I dont think Ill ever make it to Africa so this "feels" about as close to the real thing as I'll get to.

Gameplay - 8.0 - Good - Nothing new here. It controls very well with COD4 style setup (which has become my new favorite setup). Actual gameplay-wise, someone somewhere mentioned it was like GTA and Crackdown mixed with a bit of Mercs. Kind of a good description. You will spend a lot of time looking for diamonds which you will absolutely hate or love if you enjoy (as I do) finding things in tiny cracks behind waterfalls :)

Sound - 9.5 - Incredible. From the gun noises to the jostling of your Jeep on uneven roads all the way to the different sounds of morning and middle of the night Africa, it sounds fantastic.

Storyline - 6.0 - Something about the Jackal and a couple of warring factions. Something about random buddies wanting to help you. Sometimes they'll heal you if you die. Sometimes they die. Who knows. I know its strange, isnt it? How can you like a game that you're not entirely sure of whats going on in? I dont know, but I seem to be.

Overall - 9.0 Great - (Non-average obviously). If you're at all interested in this game, then rent it, but give it time. Its maximum enjoyment appears to come from enjoying the realistic Africa presentation along with activities such as diamond hunting, outpost clearing and safe house securing. If you're big into storylines or outright definitive purposes then you should probably avoid it.

It offically gets my personal "Game that I probably shouldnt like as much as I do" award for 2008! :p

N8DOGG
10-27-08, 06:31 PM
pretty good review, I'd be pretty much in that bag also.

Degenerazn
10-27-08, 06:35 PM
I just got this game and I'm deciding whether to keep this or trade it for Call of Duty 5 when it comes out. I like the idea of the open atmosphere but don't know if I have the patients to do so much traveling. I hear the controls are a bit off. FarCry 1 had terrible aiming and I'm hoping they improved on this. Graphics are not a big deal to me but gameplay and mechanics is. Another fear I have is that its developed by the same team that made Assassin's Creed. I sure as hell hope this game isn't as repetitive and becomes a chore to finish.

confidenceman
10-27-08, 07:11 PM
Interestingly, I started off feeling this game was mediocre, like many other people have mentioned here.

I dont know what it is, but after playing several hours, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! :DYup. I didn't expect to like it as much as I do, and I really wasn't feeling it through the first hour or two. But this thing grows on you to the point that it invades your sleeping and waking hours.I like the idea of the open atmosphere but don't know if I have the patients to do so much traveling. I hear the controls are a bit off.If you find the "traveling" around in a GTA game to be tedious, then you'll probably find this tedious, too. But like a GTA game, things happen as you're traveling. "It's all about the journey, not the destination," as they say.

I haven't really noticed any issues with the controls. I'm not a hardcore online fragger, but I do play pretty much every major FPS game. It's not the most highly responsive FPS ever made, but that suits the flying-by-the-seat-of-your-pants feel of the game. Dealing with crappy weapons is part of the game. If that doesn't appeal to you, then don't bother.

FarCry 1 had terrible aiming and I'm hoping they improved on this.It's similar, but the engine was built from scratch by a totally different team. I didn't really like the first Far Cry. I love this one. Take that for what it's worth.

Another fear I have is that its developed by the same team that made Assassin's Creed. I sure as hell hope this game isn't as repetitive and becomes a chore to finish.Same development studio, but not the same team. Ubisoft Montreal is huge with employees in the thousands. I imagine the AC team is busy working on the AC sequel at the moment.

eatenbacktolife
10-27-08, 07:19 PM
I've given this game several hours, and still find it a mixed bag.

Complaints:

Having to empty half a clip in someone's body before they go down. That's using the rifle you start with, some of the other automatic weapons seem to drop these guys quicker, but it's still silly. The controls just feel "robotic" in close quarters firefights.

AI that can spot you a mile away during the day, but completely blind at night.

Respawning enemies at guard posts, wtf? Considering the amount of exploring you will have to do, getting to your mission is a chore when you have to pass by 3 of these to get there. Combined with roving patrols it can be a pita. I would have been fine with much more difficult to secure guard posts, and once they are gone they are gone. I've found the buses only somewhat helpful.

The good:

Sniping. Lots of fun. The aiming feels a little choppy, but the end result is very satisfying.

Fire effects are wicked, watching a whole field and the trees go up in flames is very cool. Bad guys being caught in there is a nice bonus.

Explosions are brutal. Grenades are no joke in this game.

Graphics and sound are top notch. I didn't think much of them at first, but after a few hours the graphics really shine. The textures, lighting, and shadows are very nice to look at. Some of the geometry seems pretty simple, but that's the price we had to pay for everything else I'm guessing. The wind swaying the bushes and trees is very neat to look at.

The world is nice so far, even though the animal population is rather thin at this point. During one part, I was being chased by some dbags in a truck, and a gazelle or something jumped right in front of their truck and got nailed.

tjayl
10-28-08, 07:52 AM
I rented this, and have tried multiple times to get into it, but I just can't. I'm only on the first mission, taking out the police cheif, and I'm frustrated with how many bullets it takes to kill someone and how you can't really stealthily plan out your attack.

What I loved about the first FarCry for PC was the fact that you can sneak up on a group of enemies and pick them off strategically.

Here when I sneak up on enemies they either see me coming and call all their buddies, or I try and sneak up on them to knife them which hasn't worked yet and they call all their buddies, or I start shooting, taking forever to kill one which effectively calls all their buddies. I usually end up shutting it off and going back to Dead Space, which I'm actually enjoying. I'm going to keep trying, since I have it until Saturday, but it certainly hasn't grown on me yet even though I know I'm very early in the game.

Dark Helmet
10-28-08, 08:05 AM
I rented this, and have tried multiple times to get into it, but I just can't. I'm only on the first mission, taking out the police cheif, and I'm frustrated with how many bullets it takes to kill someone and how you can't really stealthily plan out your attack.

What I loved about the first FarCry for PC was the fact that you can sneak up on a group of enemies and pick them off strategically.

Here when I sneak up on enemies they either see me coming and call all their buddies, or I try and sneak up on them to knife them which hasn't worked yet and they call all their buddies, or I start shooting, taking forever to kill one which effectively calls all their buddies. I usually end up shutting it off and going back to Dead Space, which I'm actually enjoying. I'm going to keep trying, since I have it until Saturday, but it certainly hasn't grown on me yet even though I know I'm very early in the game.
Aim for the head.

ahartig
10-28-08, 02:04 PM
Aim for the head.

+1, and do short bursts of 2 to 3 shots, much more effective.

confidenceman
10-29-08, 12:38 AM
Before I started playing this game, lots of gamers were complaining about how many hits it takes to kill enemies.

Once I started playing, I had no idea what people were talking about. If you're expecting enemies to explode into pieces once a bullet so much as grazes their forearm, then, yes, it might seem like it takes a lot to kill a guy. But really, all you have to do is aim for the head--or use the proper weapon in the proper way. ****, just about every other shooter has tougher enemies than this on the harder difficulty settings (Gears, Uncharted, RE4, etc.).

I'm playing on Hardcore difficulty and am ten hours in, and have yet to notice any unusually or unrealistically tough enemies. Once the net gets a hold of some piece of "knowledge" about a game, it starts circulating until everyone convinces everyone else that it's a "fact." This is the perfect example of that.

eatenbacktolife
10-29-08, 01:54 AM
I've pumped several rounds from an assault rifle up close into shirtless goons and they didn't drop. I don't find it more difficult, just annoying and it kills the immersion factor for me. But I'm sure I just read it on the internet and can't form my own opinion.

confidenceman
10-29-08, 06:08 AM
I swear I must be playing a different game from everyone else. :confused:

That kind of crap doesn't happen to me. Seriously. At close range, dude's drop with just a couple of rifle shots or a single shotgun blast. At long range, an explosion, pistol headshot (2-3 if it's a body shot), or single sniper round will kill them (two if it's a limb).

I don't get where everyone seems to be getting this criticism of needing too many bullets to kill guys. That's why I assume it's just pure fud, but maybe it's just the way I play. Don't know.

WilliamR
10-29-08, 08:45 AM
I swear I must be playing a different game from everyone else. :confused:

That kind of crap doesn't happen to me. Seriously. At close range, dude's drop with just a couple of rifle shots or a single shotgun blast. At long range, an explosion, pistol headshot (2-3 if it's a body shot), or single sniper round will kill them (two if it's a limb).

I don't get where everyone seems to be getting this criticism of needing too many bullets to kill guys. That's why I assume it's just pure fud, but maybe it's just the way I play. Don't know.

It happens to me all the time. I had a guy standing a couple feet in front of me, no shirt on, and I had an assault rifle. I kept firing at his chest and he didn't go down. I had to turn around and get some space because he was coming on me fast. Just doesn't seem right that someone can take multiple rounds from an assault rifle, at close range, and not be affected or hurt until that magical amount of damage is done and they go down.

Now the shotgun at close range is consistent. Everyone goes down in one shot, as it should be. Sniper rifles work perfect.

dukealexan
11-02-08, 07:35 AM
I'm realy enjoying the game it gets better and better. Great environments and graphics. So many good things in this game and many surprises’. I was shocked to find hang gliders and then I found a STOCKLESS GOLDEN AK47 below on a ledge by one of the hang gliders and when I use it the AI starts to say stuff about me and my gold gun. Anybody else find the gun or any others.

Scott Simonian
11-02-08, 04:19 PM
I'm realy enjoying the game it gets better and better. Great environments and graphics. So many good things in this game and many surprises’. I was shocked to find hang gliders and then I found a STOCKLESS GOLDEN AK47 below on a ledge by one of the hang gliders and when I use it the AI starts to say stuff about me and my gold gun. Anybody else find the gun or any others.

Oh wow! I just got the game so I haven't done too much but I'd like to know where that golden AK is. :D

dukealexan
11-02-08, 05:58 PM
I found mine on the second map which is about half way thru but doing some searching I found that there may be many more around

http://www.farcry2world.com/farcry-2-forums_thread_4513_Golden-Stockless-AK-47.html

DFul4d
11-02-08, 08:53 PM
I found a golden AK in a shack on the side of a hill in the SE corner of the map.

I find the Roving patrols and all the guards posts a little annoying. You can't really go anywhere without engaging in several battles. Its not like other sandbox games where you can cruise up to your objective and then start the battle. You have to battle your way to your objective.

It seems like every new mission sends you to the opposite corner of the map.

corey99699
11-02-08, 11:00 PM
It happens to me all the time. I had a guy standing a couple feet in front of me, no shirt on, and I had an assault rifle. I kept firing at his chest and he didn't go down. I had to turn around and get some space because he was coming on me fast. Just doesn't seem right that someone can take multiple rounds from an assault rifle, at close range, and not be affected or hurt until that magical amount of damage is done and they go down.

Now the shotgun at close range is consistent. Everyone goes down in one shot, as it should be. Sniper rifles work perfect.

I have unloaded two full clips from the assault rifle at close range while playing online deathmatch and dude still didn't drop,there's been many times I felt like I got cheated out of kills but it's still a great game.I was playing thursday online and was leading with 24 kills,the host was second with 22 kills and as i was shooting a guy for my last kill I was banned from session,I've never been so mad while playing a video game.I wasn't using my headset so there was no reason I should have been banned,I was just knocked out so someone else could get the win,this was also a ranked match.Has this happened to anyone else?

Swift Mojo Hand
11-03-08, 12:46 AM
I picked up this game on Saturday and I am really enjoying it. I was a little worried about the malaria issue, but it was solved quickly. WHeW.
My first mission went flawless. It was an assination and I went solid snake sneaky and successfully snuck into the camp undetected and eleminated the target with a single head shot as he smoked his last cigarett. Now I am focusing on the gun runner missions to unlock new weapons. Now I own a silenced MP5 and silenced hand gun and I am a silent killer. This is a really fun game.

As for the issue with unloading a clip into a guy and him not dying. This was happening to me untill I started doing burst fire and aiming at the torso, the requial will force the gun to pull back and split the guy in half with three shots. It also gets easer when you buy a better gun. Maybe turn on your crosshair in the options menu?

/Turn off the music
/listen to the jungle

shawndagan
11-03-08, 01:11 AM
Hey I started this thread about the multiplayer portion of this game if anyone is interested:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1079944
The Map creation tools in this game are awesome, but would be even better if you can get big enough games on them...
cheers

assasyn
11-03-08, 01:45 AM
I'm starting to like this game. Not sure about the MP yet though.

jasonstiller
11-04-08, 02:17 AM
I'm very surprised this game is'nt getting the praise I thought avs members would give it. Technically this game is astounding. Game play wise its fantastic. Wow, lots of HOLY SH** moments.

confidenceman
11-04-08, 06:01 AM
I'm very surprised this game is'nt getting the praise I thought avs members would give it.I think it's because people are giving up on it too soon. It really seems like a lackluster game for the first couple of hours until you suddenly "get" it and crazy **** starts happening.

Most folks around here aren't willing to wade through 2-3 hours of what seems like mediocre gameplay in order to see what the fuss is all about. Too bad, really, since it's a truly stellar game.

Scott Simonian
11-04-08, 12:55 PM
I think it's because people are giving up on it too soon. It really seems like a lackluster game for the first couple of hours until you suddenly "get" it and crazy **** starts happening.

Most folks around here aren't willing to wade through 2-3 hours of what seems like mediocre gameplay in order to see what the fuss is all about. Too bad, really, since it's a truly stellar game.

Same can be said for Mass Effect, ihmo. Seen and heard too many people not get past Eden Prime or the Citadel. It gets so much better after all that. Not perfect but worth putting time into.

I have been playing the MP in FarCry2 this past week. It's a bit hit and miss. My friend and I were playing together and we could not find any good ping team deathmatch games at all. Wtf? Anyway, at first we really hated the MP because we had to play deathmatch and people are constantly spawning behind you in deathmatch. After about an hour we started to get the hang of it and it was much more fun. Only thing we hate so far is that some players seem to be invincible. I have dumped whole clips in to the chests of players and I just go down with a couple hits. I wasn't spraying all over either. Controled bursts to the chest and head, I still died. Other than that kind of thing, the MP isn't all that bad. More people should play.

Fallout3 has kept me from resuming my SP campaign though. :)

tjayl
11-04-08, 01:28 PM
I think it's because people are giving up on it too soon. It really seems like a lackluster game for the first couple of hours until you suddenly "get" it and crazy **** starts happening.

Most folks around here aren't willing to wade through 2-3 hours of what seems like mediocre gameplay in order to see what the fuss is all about. Too bad, really, since it's a truly stellar game.

I finally gave up on it last night. I don't know how many hours I put into it, but I think I just didn't get it. I really wanted to like this game, and kept going back to it every day. I did get the hang of taking people down - which was my complaint earlier in the thread. All the driving around looking for missions and constantly fending off attacks from patrols bored me. Reminded me of GTA, which I also don't enjoy.

Here's the nail in the coffin for me though. I took out a guard post, which included a couple jeeps, a car, a couple other guys, and a sniper. I drove up the road to the top of a hill (this was not far from the guard post). I turned headed off roading down the hill. Then I got the "need to take your malaria pill" feeling. When the screen cleared my jeep was going into a roll. I thought, that was pretty cool. So I drove back up the hill to see if I could roll my jeep again on purpose. All of a sudden I get slammed by the car from that guard post that I just took out, and the two jeeps show up and I'm dead. I thought, WTF, I just took them out and they were hardly even out of my line of sight. Why did they respawn! I hit eject, took out the disc and packed it up to return to the rental place. This was typical of the frustration I had nearly every time I played.

ahartig
11-04-08, 05:55 PM
I finally gave up on it last night. I don't know how many hours I put into it, but I think I just didn't get it. I really wanted to like this game, and kept going back to it every day. I did get the hang of taking people down - which was my complaint earlier in the thread. All the driving around looking for missions and constantly fending off attacks from patrols bored me. Reminded me of GTA, which I also don't enjoy.

Here's the nail in the coffin for me though. I took out a guard post, which included a couple jeeps, a car, a couple other guys, and a sniper. I drove up the road to the top of a hill (this was not far from the guard post). I turned headed off roading down the hill. Then I got the "need to take your malaria pill" feeling. When the screen cleared my jeep was going into a roll. I thought, that was pretty cool. So I drove back up the hill to see if I could roll my jeep again on purpose. All of a sudden I get slammed by the car from that guard post that I just took out, and the two jeeps show up and I'm dead. I thought, WTF, I just took them out and they were hardly even out of my line of sight. Why did they respawn! I hit eject, took out the disc and packed it up to return to the rental place. This was typical of the frustration I had nearly every time I played.


The respawning issue is my only gripe. Its quite absurd. There should be a minimum one to two day wait before a guard post gets respawned. Hopefully a patch will come out, but I doubt it.

confidenceman
11-04-08, 10:02 PM
The whole guard post respawning thing is definitely a matter of personal preference. But they couldn't keep those guys away because the main purpose behind those posts is for supplies (explosives, ammo, and health). If enemies didn't respawn you could indefinitely milk those guard posts for supplies, making the game way too easy.

I finally went long enough without replacing my weapons (from weapon storage) to see them give out. Took a while. Very cool. Making the guard posts more difficult to get supplies from forces you to keep using old weapons and cycling through other (rusty) ones.

Anyhow, the guard post respawning is necessary to the way the supplies/weapons work. If it's a matter of "realism," then, yes, it might be cooler if a troop truck came in and dropped off a bunch of new fighters.

Rhyvven
11-05-08, 11:07 AM
The whole guard post respawning thing is definitely a matter of personal preference. But they couldn't keep those guys away because the main purpose behind those posts is for supplies (explosives, ammo, and health). If enemies didn't respawn you could indefinitely milk those guard posts for supplies, making the game way too easy.

I finally went long enough without replacing my weapons (from weapon storage) to see them give out. Took a while. Very cool. Making the guard posts more difficult to get supplies from forces you to keep using old weapons and cycling through other (rusty) ones.

Anyhow, the guard post re-spawning is necessary to the way the supplies/weapons work. If it's a matter of "realism," then, yes, it might be cooler if a troop truck came in and dropped off a bunch of new fighters.

I am enjoying the game, but I agree with ahartig....and you. I can see the "re-spawn" as necessary from the ammo/supply perspective. However, if we go with ahrtig's time frame of a day or two before troop replacement it makes more sense.

It should have been designed as; we clear the post, take all the ammo, health, etc and....it is gone. If you went back to the post the next minute or a few hours later, there would be nothing available - you took it all. Now a day or two later the troops come back and of course they would bring supplies. NOW, you have to take the post again if you want something.

Of course that's not the game we have. But who knows what can be done via a patch if the designers would even be inclined to do so.

Having to drive 5 mph for fear of a truck ahead or a manned post around every corner can be annoying. I have always been a "slow, stop and smell the roses" player in most games that allow it. So I can adapt to driving slow or walking many places. But the design of the game should not require such game play methods just so you are not fighting every minute around every corner.

But...I still like it.

confidenceman
11-05-08, 01:44 PM
It should have been designed as; we clear the post, take all the ammo, health, etc and....it is gone. If you went back to the post the next minute or a few hours later, there would be nothing available - you took it all. Now a day or two later the troops come back and of course they would bring supplies. NOW, you have to take the post again if you want something.Great idea. You're totally right.

And, admittedly, it's a game that those of us who like it, like it despite its many faults. Very much like a GTA game.

number1laing
11-14-08, 11:44 PM
I rented Far Cry 2 and have played it pretty much all day. Awesome, awesome game. I wish I bought this instead of Gears of War 2.

Swift Mojo Hand
11-15-08, 10:23 PM
I am about 15 hours into it and I love it more and more every time I play. The best advice I can give is do the weapons trader missions first. Also make sure you turn off the music, many times my life has been saved by hearing a jeep being driven down the road in my direction. This audibal warning gives you the abality to hide and get ready to ambush (or a enemy trying to sneak up behind me). My final bit of advice is use the rivers to get around. You will find a lot of the missions are located next to a rivers. The best part is you have a lot less army check points to deal with, you can also easely out run the other boats that may attempt to chase if you haul ass without stoping to shoot back.

Enjoy

syphon00
01-30-09, 04:30 PM
are you guys playing this on Live?
look me up

Chimera47

number1laing
04-02-09, 11:27 AM
I popped this game in again and man it's so awesome. I know it got a bad rap because of a few problems with it (like instant respawn checkpoints - too bad Ubi didn't fix that!) but everything else in the game is great. One thing I didn't realize is that the map in the beginning is only half the map!

The one thing though, is that on HDMI the shadows look worse. As I understand it, its the game uses a shadowing system not implemented on the 360 chip, but with component it just fuzzed out a bit to give it a stairstepping look that wasn't great but not too out of place with the sort of shadows that are often seen. On HDMI its much sharper and you see like a screen door effect.

Still, only a gripe.

Smiss
04-02-09, 11:43 AM
The game looks fantastic and is pretty fun. Yes, it can get pretty repetitive, but the player is the driver and is ultimately the one that makes the game fun. There are so many different ways to attack camps or convoys that it's up to you to make the game repetitive or not.

Yes, I do agree the damn respawns were annoying as hell. Also, I stopped playing the game at 70% because I ran into a bug where I could not access any more missions. When I went to one of the factions camps to get a mission, the doors were closed. My previously save point was like 10 hours earlier and that turned me way off. I might get back to it eventually and hopefully they fix this huge bug, which to me is near unforgivable!

number1laing
04-02-09, 11:51 AM
Yep, I like how the game says, go make it fun. Quite different from the norm but like I said, its great.

Ubi's support of this game is terrible - only one really bad DLC pack. The respawns don't bother me too much because I don't find myself criss-crossing the same paths that often but it would've been nice of Ubi to at least give people what they want and make then not spawn for a day or something.

That's to say nothing of the corrupt save game bug, and other issues. Maybe this game needed to bomb before Ubi would've revisited it, sort of like Midnight Club: LA.

KingRat
04-05-09, 07:57 PM
I popped this game in again and man it's so awesome. I know it got a bad rap because of a few problems with it (like instant respawn checkpoints - too bad Ubi didn't fix that!) but everything else in the game is great. One thing I didn't realize is that the map in the beginning is only half the map!

The one thing though, is that on HDMI the shadows look worse. As I understand it, its the game uses a shadowing system not implemented on the 360 chip, but with component it just fuzzed out a bit to give it a stairstepping look that wasn't great but not too out of place with the sort of shadows that are often seen. On HDMI its much sharper and you see like a screen door effect.

Still, only a gripe.

iirc Ubi used nvidias 'percentage closer filtering' for shadows, hence the difference between 360 & PS3. PS3 does use the quincunx blur filter which I never cared for.

I've put in close to 150 hours so far on the 360 and really had fun with it....either that or I'm a masochist and don't know it :eek:

dogmanky
04-06-09, 12:22 PM
Target has this on clearance locally for $27.99. I'm really on the fence with a shelf full of games I've never played..

:confused:

Degenerazn
04-06-09, 01:44 PM
One thing about this game is that it is loooong. I finished the first map and stopped there. A lot of the missions are pretty much the same. And I really only started having fun when I picked up the sniper, all other guns are horrible at close range.

eatenbacktolife
04-06-09, 02:04 PM
I quit playing on the first mission in Act 2. What could have been a great game was ruined by some questionable design choices and a broken stealth mechanic.

number1laing
04-07-09, 09:46 AM
One thing about this game is that it is loooong.

IMO its a lot like Oblivion. Oblivion's not a perfect game, there are lots of things that can annoy a player to quit, but if you dig it, there's a LOT of it.

tgable
04-07-09, 01:15 PM
I'm just starting this game, just have a few questions.

1. The places on the map with the symbol of a guy with a lock is like a beefed up guard post right? What does unlocking it do? I unlocked one and when I came back all the guys were there again, that sucks.

2. Does traveling from point A to B always mean fighting a dozen times? I know about the bus, but there is no stop in town! WTF?

This game would be much better if you can fast travel from one safe house to another, the slogging from place to place is a bore.

Smiss
04-07-09, 01:34 PM
I'm just starting this game, just have a few questions.

1. The places on the map with the symbol of a guy with a lock is like a beefed up guard post right? What does unlocking it do? I unlocked one and when I came back all the guys were there again, that sucks.

2. Does traveling from point A to B always mean fighting a dozen times? I know about the bus, but there is no stop in town! WTF?

This game would be much better if you can fast travel from one safe house to another, the slogging from place to place is a bore.

1. Unlocking just tells you what kind of supplies the guard post carries (ammunition, explosives, etc.). Guards always respawn after a certain time/distance from hitting the post. It's an annoying factor to the game, but you'll eventually find ways to get around it. Bazooka cleans up the guard posts pretty damn fast. Other option is to drive around it, or drive through it and wait for the guards to chase you. Then turn around with the minigun and rape the crap out of them.

2. Use the bus as much as you can to get close to your objectives. There should be a stop in each town where you get missions from the 2 factions.

You either can deal with the slow pace of the game or you can't I guess...

tgable
04-07-09, 01:41 PM
There should be a stop in each town where you get missions from the 2 factions.


Really? I guess the symbol is just missing from the map, I'll check the bus stop.

I love the open world and exploration, I just want to get from one point to the other to do a mission and it ends up taking me an hour. This game would also be much better with co-op, the team mate could man the machine gun on the jeeps.

Scott Simonian
04-07-09, 01:48 PM
Really? I guess the symbol is just missing from the map, I'll check the bus stop.

I love the open world and exploration, I just want to get from one point to the other to do a mission and it ends up taking me an hour. This game would also be much better with co-op, the team mate could man the machine gun on the jeeps.

For the longest time I never noticed that there was a Bus Stop in the central town (in the 1st map, anyway) and had to drive to each corner to get to each respective bus stop. Became quite a bit easier when I found that Bus Stop. Hahaha! It should be n the southwest side of the central town if you haven't found it yet.

Co-op in this game would frickin' awesome! All my friends wish we could play this co-op.

Speaking of this game....I need to get back to it and finish it. Damn, Fallout3 and RockBand2. :D

SKoprowski
04-08-09, 01:54 PM
I wouldn't bother playing the SP portion of the game until it is patched- all that work will probably not get saved.

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/warning-far-cry-2-is-still-a-broken-game/a-2009040710122446016

lynesjc
04-08-09, 05:31 PM
Is this true? Is the game THAT broken and still hasn't been patched?

Reason I ask is I've been kicking around starting this up, but will hold off if these bugs are still unfixed.

dogmanky
04-08-09, 09:24 PM
My local Target slashed it to $19.99 so I picked it up... just couldn't resist for that price. :rolleyes:

rdank
04-09-09, 12:29 PM
Target in Knoxville at Downtown West had lots of copies for $19.xx last night. They were on one of the clearance endcaps.

forcedfedgtp
04-10-09, 09:17 AM
Target in Knoxville at Downtown West had lots of copies for $19.xx last night. They were on one of the clearance endcaps.

I am still waiting for the Target by me to drop it...it is scanning at 27.xx right now...

tgable
04-10-09, 11:31 AM
Is there any way to repair or add to your arsenal the weapon that show on the floor of the safe house? what is the point of them if they are just going to be rusted and broken?

Are the related to the "Safe house upgraded" message?

KingRat
04-10-09, 07:52 PM
Is there any way to repair or add to your arsenal the weapon that show on the floor of the safe house? what is the point of them if they are just going to be rusted and broken?

Are the related to the "Safe house upgraded" message?

I'm thinking you might be referring to some weapons that show up a couple times in the first map, but you can't actually buy till the 2nd map. No reason you can't use them till they break, I did it with the .50 cal sniper rifle.

Safe house upgrades come with +reputation and include health, ammo and vehicle weapons ie with +4 rep vehicle gets .50 cal and +5 rep it gets MK-19 grenade launcher...:)

JuiceRocket
04-20-09, 02:24 PM
I picked this up on sale and am enjoying it, even though it does have its issues.

I wasn't aware of the bugs/glitches in this game until reading through this thread and am now hoping that I haven't stumbled across 2.

1. I was doing missions for the weapons seller (destroying convoys), but after completing my most recent convoy mission, the weapons seller won't show up - and the ! triangle is gone from all gun shops across the map. Does this just mean there aren't any left currently, or is that a glitch?

2. I've cleaned out a couple of guard posts, but the lock symbol hasn't come off them. I've gone back to the same ones a couple of times and cleaned the respawned guys out, but again, they lock stays on. Is that an issue, or am I just missing something?

Thanks!

-JR

number1laing
04-20-09, 02:36 PM
There are only a certain number of convoy (and hitman) missions. Not a glitch.

Also, you may have killed all the enemies in a guard post but you do not "unlock" it until a message pops up saying its been scouted. Generally this involves collecting or going to whatever the guard post is. For example, if its a health pack one, you need to find the health pack in one of the buildings. Note you can do this by scouting it with the monocular, you don't need to go in guns blazing.

tgable
04-20-09, 05:33 PM
Safe house upgrades come with +reputation and include health, ammo and vehicle weapons ie with +4 rep vehicle gets .50 cal and +5 rep it gets MK-19 grenade launcher...:)

I see, cool. I am liking the game a lot more than I thought. Something about approaching a mission the way you want, the time you want and with the weapons you want is refreshing. The travel between mission is a pain though, the game needs more bus stops.

The game is gorgeous too. I popped in Halo 3 yesterday after playing FC2 for 20+ hours, what a startling difference.

JuiceRocket
04-20-09, 11:29 PM
There are only a certain number of convoy (and hitman) missions. Not a glitch.

Also, you may have killed all the enemies in a guard post but you do not "unlock" it until a message pops up saying its been scouted. Generally this involves collecting or going to whatever the guard post is. For example, if its a health pack one, you need to find the health pack in one of the buildings. Note you can do this by scouting it with the monocular, you don't need to go in guns blazing.

Thank you on both!

Another question - I noticed that on directional road signs, some are green, and some are red. I think I've figured out that green signs direct you to weapons shacks, but what are the red signs directing me to?

-JR

number1laing
04-20-09, 11:48 PM
The current objective or, if you don't have one, the place to go to advance the story (in the beginning, its mostly Pala).

Swift Mojo Hand
04-21-09, 01:11 AM
I recomend traveling the water ways. Speed boats are numerous and you can usely outrun the river patrols.

JuiceRocket
04-21-09, 09:59 AM
The current objective or, if you don't have one, the place to go to advance the story (in the beginning, its mostly Pala).

Great, thanks again! You're right, it was showing Pala, and I wasn't sure why since I didn't think I had any live missions.

-JR

tgable
04-21-09, 04:33 PM
I recomend traveling the water ways. Speed boats are numerous and you can usely outrun the river patrols.

I've never seen a speed boat, just those crappy ones.

I'm trying to figure out a good powerful weapon combo, it seems the spot they take up seems semi random, the dart gun is special, but the sniper is primary. Can you tell from the sales computer?

I have some really good weapons, but I'm unbalanced because many of them take the same spot.

My best combo is the Machine gun/Dart Rifle/Grenade launcher

I'm trying to work in the uber grenade launcher that takes the primary spot or the 50cal sniper with a SMG or something.

KingRat
04-22-09, 04:39 PM
I've never seen a speed boat, just those crappy ones.

I'm trying to figure out a good powerful weapon combo, it seems the spot they take up seems semi random, the dart gun is special, but the sniper is primary. Can you tell from the sales computer?

I have some really good weapons, but I'm unbalanced because many of them take the same spot.

My best combo is the Machine gun/Dart Rifle/Grenade launcher

I'm trying to work in the uber grenade launcher that takes the primary spot or the 50cal sniper with a SMG or something.

if you haven't already, it would help to buy all the weapons crates. Gives you more load out options.

I usually went AK/Dragunov Dart/SAW UZI/M-79 and tried all the rest except pistols. :)

Nox
05-05-09, 11:07 PM
After seeing this thread pop up a couple weeks ago, it got me interested in trying to play this game again.

I hated the control when I first bought it. To be honest, I still don't like it, but I've gotten to cope with it. The gameplay is very addicting to me. I even don't mind all the driving to get to a mission... I feel it's part of the emersion.

I wish there were settings to add dangerous animals, though. Crocodiles and lions come readily to mind.

JuiceRocket
05-05-09, 11:59 PM
After seeing this thread pop up a couple weeks ago, it got me interested in trying to play this game again.

I hated the control when I first bought it. To be honest, I still don't like it, but I've gotten to cope with it. The gameplay is very addicting to me. I even don't mind all the driving to get to a mission... I feel it's part of the emersion.

I wish there were settings to add dangerous animals, though. Crocodiles and lions come readily to mind.

I'm with you on all of this. I just opened what I suppose is Act 2, and although it's cool to know there's more out there, the gun play is really driving me nuts and is slowly grating on my overall enjoyment of the game.

Oh well, I'll keep plugging at it.

Nox
05-07-09, 03:02 PM
I just bought the Fortune's Pack. It's only 400 points ($5) on Live. (http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/0ccf0001-0000-4000-8000-000055530810?partner=MajorNelson) I don't know how long it's been at that price. Last I knew it was 800. It's still $10 on the PSN.

It's only a trio of weapons, an ATV, a big truck and a couple of MP maps, but for $5... I figured what the hey.

Scott Simonian
05-07-09, 05:30 PM
I just bought the Fortune's Pack. It's only 400 points ($5) on Live. (http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/0ccf0001-0000-4000-8000-000055530810?partner=MajorNelson) I don't know how long it's been at that price. Last I knew it was 800. It's still $10 on the PSN.

It's only a trio of weapons, an ATV, a big truck and a couple of MP maps, but for $5... I figured what the hey.

It's always been 800 points. At least, all the times I've looked and I checked recently. Must have just gone on sale. :)

I too wanted there to be dangerous wildlife in the game. In fact, I thought that was one of the AI related features in the game when it first came out. Guess not.

darklordjames
05-11-09, 07:12 PM
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/46972/Far-Cry-2-Xbox-360-Patch-Released

So apparently a big ol' patch hit today for this game. Can any of the owners give an opinion on whether it makes the game work well enough to finally pick up a copy? :)

Scott Simonian
05-12-09, 01:06 AM
Oooh!!! Thanks, James! Just noticed this now as I long of the 360 for the evening. :p

Liked this part: "Extra Features:

Add a “hardcore mode” that will provide a new damage model where all weapons do much more damage to increase realism."

The article didn't indicate if that is for multi or single player or if by that they mean only for the AI baddies and not the player. I sure hope that "hardcore" mode works for the player and is for the SP mode since that was a big issue I had and I know many other had with the combat system.

FIVE ONE SIX
05-12-09, 02:39 AM
Can any of the owners give an opinion on whether it makes the game work well enough to finally pick up a copy? :)
well, it is only $9.98 at Target if you can find a copy, so it's not like it's still full price. there were 2 copies at a Target by me on Sunday afternoon, but i didn't know it was on clearance until last night, and when i went back today they were already gone...

darklordjames
05-12-09, 08:48 AM
$10 with no copies available does nobody any good. :) It's $40 anywhere else, which is reasonable for this game I feel, if it actually functions now.

JuiceRocket
05-12-09, 12:29 PM
Oooh!!! Thanks, James! Just noticed this now as I long of the 360 for the evening. :p

Liked this part: "Extra Features:

Add a “hardcore mode” that will provide a new damage model where all weapons do much more damage to increase realism."

The article didn't indicate if that is for multi or single player or if by that they mean only for the AI baddies and not the player. I sure hope that "hardcore" mode works for the player and is for the SP mode since that was a big issue I had and I know many other had with the combat system.

I played for about 2 hours last night and felt no difference after the patch. I only played SP, and was hoping that "hardcore" was part of SP. I didn't see it anywhere, unless it's in options and I missed it, or if it's a difficulty that I'd need to start a new game to get to.

I'm going to look at it again, because like you, the combat system in this game is still driving me absolutely nuts. It's downright horrible, I'm so sick of getting taken down by a shotgun at 300 yards with two shots, when the .50 cal I'm manning only makes the guy stumble before he runs behind a tree and gets lost in the bushes...only to somehow flank me and yet again take me down with two shotgun blasts from 300 yards away.

I tend to play the game until my frustration level mounts to the point that I get upset and just dump out of it. In fact last night, I drove up to a guard checkpoint and low on ammo, figured I'd simply man the .50 from 50 yards away, take out the guards, drive up and get my ammo I needed. I stopped, fired away, saw all three guys go down. Knowing this game and how you're never quite sure if you've taken someone out, I wait about 10 seconds just scanning the scene. No movement.

I drive up, get out of the car, and pack-pack-pack I start taking rounds. Spinning wildly, I can't figure out who's shooting me, so I duck behind the car and start digging bullets out of my flesh. Pack-pack-pack I'm taking more rounds, which interrupts the bullet removal process/animation. Now close to going down, I spin around again. Oh - there - in the gutter - a guy my .50 call didn't take down is shooting at me with his pistol and viola - I'm dead.

Ugh.

Turned the game off and turned on the TV.

It's a shame, because I enjoy every other aspect of the game, the only exception is the atrocious damage modeling (or lack there-of).

-JR

number1laing
05-12-09, 01:36 PM
I think hardcore mode is only for multiplayer (which apparently is still pretty popular).

Scott Simonian
05-12-09, 02:01 PM
I think hardcore mode is only for multiplayer (which apparently is still pretty popular).

Geez....

Of course they add the ever important "awesome new feature" for the only mode I don't play in the game. :rolleyes:

JuiceRocket
05-13-09, 12:01 AM
I think hardcore mode is only for multiplayer (which apparently is still pretty popular).

I tried it last night for the first time, and the Deathmatch server I was placed was entirely full. I was a bad player and dumped out early (getting sniped repeatedly gets old fast) but it sure did seem like it had an active community.

Geez....

Of course they add the ever important "awesome new feature" for the only mode I don't play in the game. :rolleyes:

I know, I'm with you, if I'm going to play an MP shooting game, it isn't this one...

Scott Simonian
05-18-09, 01:19 PM
Soooo I finally got around to patching FC2 this weekend. My friend wanted to watch me play too. Got it all patched and even downloaded the DLC now that it is 400 instead of 800 MS points.

*just FYI...I did not play any multiplayer*

I booted up the game and checked for the new "Hardcore" mode before loading my last save. It's not a new mode (as far as SP mode is concerned) but a new difficulty. Loaded up my last save and switched the difficulty. Immediately noticed the change in damage dealt to the enemy soldiers. You can still have moments where you hit the guy and they sorta dance around like the did but now it takes a significantly less amount of bullets to put these guys down. Soooo awesome now! Yes!

Unfortunately, they didnt fix the suicidal AI but once you understand how they fight you (bum-rushing you, crashing their vehicles into you no matter what), you get used to it and it's much easier to make it through some tough fights since the baddies go down so much faster now.

Now, I found out shortly into playing the game that "Hardcore" mode didn't have to be set on for the new damage model to work for the bad guys. It just makes the damage done to YOU much more realistic. You can still play at Normal difficulty and have the enhanced damage work just as long as you update your game. :)

For those of you out there that hated how much you had to shoot each person in FC2 to make em' fall then this update is for you! :D

JuiceRocket
05-19-09, 02:24 AM
Scott, I'm not sure that's the "new" mode, as I've been playing on "Hardcore" mode since I started the game back in April. Like the fool I am, I typically start games in the harder modes since I always think it's more representitive of the challenge the game is supposed to have.

All of my saves are listed as "Hardcore", which has many times me glad I'm not playing on the hardest level (I forget what it's called) since I can't even imagine how frustrating that'd be!

-JR

Scott Simonian
05-19-09, 12:12 PM
Hahaha! I guess I didn't even notice that it was already there as a difficulty. :o Just assumed that was the new one since "Hardcore" mode was listed under the next stuff in the patch. Still, you should be able to play from your current save with the newly updated damage model.

JuiceRocket
05-19-09, 03:33 PM
Hahaha! I guess I didn't even notice that it was already there as a difficulty. :o Just assumed that was the new one since "Hardcore" mode was listed under the next stuff in the patch. Still, you should be able to play from your current save with the newly updated damage model.

Oh cool, I'll look for that tonight when I game! :)

Yeah, thankfully I didn't go try the hardest level (not sure what it's called, I think there was one above hardcore) because "hardcore" is plenty frustrating. I'm really curious how this new "hardcore" mode will change the gameplay - is it located in options?

-JR

Scott Simonian
05-19-09, 06:48 PM
That would be 'Insane' difficulty. I haven't tried it myself but from the little while that I played in "hardcore" difficulty I doubt I would last very long on this hardest setting.

As for the actual 'hardcore' mode mentioned in the press release... I am not sure what it is. Number1laing mentioned above that it is a option for multiplayer. Not that I have checked, myself. When my friend and I got this in November, we tried out the MP and didn't like it and haven't touched it since. Quite possibly it is a more realistic damage for all players online...well, thats just a guess.

alizerothree
05-19-09, 07:36 PM
I fired up FC 2 yesterday to try out my new HTIB system. I must say that this game sounds unbelievable in terms of quality. This game and Dead Space have make some of the best use of sound i have experienced so far! The fire propagating in surround is wonderful! :eek:

Anyone else agree or have a better suggestion for amazing sounding 360 games?

cheers

Scott Simonian
05-19-09, 07:59 PM
Hell yeah! This game makes my twin 18's REALLY shake up the house. :D

JuiceRocket
05-21-09, 12:42 PM
That would be 'Insane' difficulty. I haven't tried it myself but from the little while that I played in "hardcore" difficulty I doubt I would last very long on this hardest setting.

As for the actual 'hardcore' mode mentioned in the press release... I am not sure what it is. Number1laing mentioned above that it is a option for multiplayer. Not that I have checked, myself. When my friend and I got this in November, we tried out the MP and didn't like it and haven't touched it since. Quite possibly it is a more realistic damage for all players online...well, thats just a guess.

"Insane"...I can't imagine how frustrating it'd be to play this game on a harder level. I'm guessing the only difference is you'd take more damage? Even now I have no sense of what does what other than snipers - which seem to take off a bar and a 1/2 per round.

Last night I had another joyous experience where I emptied an Uzi clip into a guy who was about 5 feet from me. He didn't go down, but he ran and got caught facing the wrong way in a rut. I reloaded, walked up, and from about 2 feet away emptied another full clip. Blood everywhere, he stumbled, and kept walking facing the other direction. :( I reloaded and he went down with a single headshot. :rolleyes:

Obviously there is something I like about this game though, because even with these complaints I still go back to it. :)

I dug through SP options and coudn't find hardcore mode other than in the primary difficulty. Like you I don't play MP, so I didn't check that.

-JR

Scott Simonian
05-21-09, 01:27 PM
From what I could tell from playing "Hardcore" difficulty it just makes you take more damage. Enemies take whatever they do take. Still, I'd be pretty frustrated with it too cause these guys are a great shot! Lolz! :)

Just as frustrating is situations like what you just went thru with the Uzi. Now, is that the Uzi or the Mac10? I know both are in the game but I just wanted to clarify. I use the Mac10 and quite frequently do I have that happen. Not always but if I am not on the mark or am just not close enough it will seem to take multiple mags worth of ammo if using that particular weapon. It shoots sooo fast and all I just don't think it is supposed to be very accurate and I prollly am missing more than I can tell. Well, unless I shoot really slow but what would be the fun of that with a Mac10? :p

For me, I can still see that there has been some damage fix becaue I would frequently have this sort of thing happen with EVERY weapon in the game. That just isn't happening anymore thanks to this patch. What else do you carry with you typically?

My usual loadout is: MP5SD, PKM, Mac10 + grenades/molotovs

Yesterday I bought the flamethrower to show off for my friend and I had WAY too much fun burning things and people. :D The feeling of surrounding the AI with flames and no escape. Heheheh...burning down a building (erm, shack) that they are still in. Goodtimes.

I love this game.

Samstag
05-21-09, 03:10 PM
Try shooting 3-4 round bursts if you're having accuracy problems. I don't know how much they model recoil but out of FPS habit I pulse the trigger and haven't had this problem.

JuiceRocket
05-22-09, 01:49 PM
From what I could tell from playing "Hardcore" difficulty it just makes you take more damage. Enemies take whatever they do take. Still, I'd be pretty frustrated with it too cause these guys are a great shot! Lolz! :)

Just as frustrating is situations like what you just went thru with the Uzi. Now, is that the Uzi or the Mac10? I know both are in the game but I just wanted to clarify. I use the Mac10 and quite frequently do I have that happen. Not always but if I am not on the mark or am just not close enough it will seem to take multiple mags worth of ammo if using that particular weapon. It shoots sooo fast and all I just don't think it is supposed to be very accurate and I prollly am missing more than I can tell. Well, unless I shoot really slow but what would be the fun of that with a Mac10? :p

For me, I can still see that there has been some damage fix becaue I would frequently have this sort of thing happen with EVERY weapon in the game. That just isn't happening anymore thanks to this patch. What else do you carry with you typically?

My usual loadout is: MP5SD, PKM, Mac10 + grenades/molotovs

Yesterday I bought the flamethrower to show off for my friend and I had WAY too much fun burning things and people. :D The feeling of surrounding the AI with flames and no escape. Heheheh...burning down a building (erm, shack) that they are still in. Goodtimes.

I love this game.

I use the Uzi, I used to use the Mac10, but it fires sooo fast and it seems (seems is the operative word here) to do less damage that than the Uzi. I swap around between two different load outs;

AS50, PKM, M-79 Grenade Launcher
Dragunov, Carl G, Uzi

I like to try to have a long distance, short distance, and explosive on my loadouts.

Like Samstag said, I almost always fire short 2-3 round bursts with any of the automatic weapon. The recoil on most of the guns is so strong that I find it tough to aim unless I do. That's one reason I don't use the AK in this game. With the PKM it seems the only way to use it is in short bursts, I even sometimes tap the guns so lightly I can get a single shot out of them.

This game is so odd. I really like it, but I sometimes I can't stand it! :)

-JR

Scott Simonian
05-22-09, 02:24 PM
This game is so odd. I really like it, but I sometimes I can't stand it! :)

-JR

That's so true. I can get past some of the issues I have with this game and now that the damage has been fixed I can enjoy this much more now. Definitely going to be playing this over the weekend.

Sure wish they could have improved the AI though. Sometimes the bad guys are smart and will flank you, use cover, or possibly flee. Usually they are just bum rushing... you would think that they might be better off as suicide bombers or something. :rolleyes:

That's a nice loadout. Closer to what my friend might carry as he likes to snipe too. I personally had too easy of a time against bad guys sniping so I opt for something more... "up close and personal". :) Speaking of which ... I should swap out my MP5SD for that silenced shotgun I just bought. :D

Never been the kind of guy to "spray and pray" either so it's never been an issue with me. I typically will fire the much heavier stuff one or two bullets at a time. Very effective. I make short order of the majority of guard posts. Unless I want a challenge, in that case, I exit the assault truck and go on foot with whatever I have on me. Sometimes I will rush in with the machette! Save some of that ammo for the next guy. :p

Biggest gripe I always had with FarCry2.... no co-op play! Ugh! How cool would it be to sneak into a base with a friend? Come in in opposite directions. Make distractions. Have sniper cover for one another. All friends loaded up with flamethrowers to burn the whole place down.

Omg, that would be so cool!

*sigh* Too bad...

Guess I need to find a group of cool people to play with online with custom maps or something. Hmmm...

JuiceRocket
05-23-09, 12:02 AM
Never been the kind of guy to "spray and pray" either so it's never been an issue with me. I typically will fire the much heavier stuff one or two bullets at a time. Very effective. I make short order of the majority of guard posts. Unless I want a challenge, in that case, I exit the assault truck and go on foot with whatever I have on me. Sometimes I will rush in with the machette! Save some of that ammo for the next guy. :p

Biggest gripe I always had with FarCry2.... no co-op play! Ugh! How cool would it be to sneak into a base with a friend? Come in in opposite directions. Make distractions. Have sniper cover for one another. All friends loaded up with flamethrowers to burn the whole place down.

Omg, that would be so cool!

*sigh* Too bad...

Guess I need to find a group of cool people to play with online with custom maps or something. Hmmm...

If you want to try some MP, just give me a shout. I've only tried it once, on a public server, and it wasn't a lot of fun. :( I'm guessing it was simply because I'm not familiar with the maps or MP on FC2, but it seemed like I'd spawn, take a few steps, and then go down due to some sniper somewhere.

I'm with you on the gaurd posts and such. I usually use the sniper when I'm trying to scope out a place, but typically I drive into a guard post, run over a couple of guys, and then take the rest out with the .50 cal. I rarely go into a camp or guard post on foot. Not because I don't want to, only because it's simply such a challenge to see who's shooting at me and it only takes a couple of shotgun shots before I go down. That brings up one other thing that drives me nuts - the ability for the AI to see through foilage without any issue.

I agree on the wish for co-op. I really wish they'd done that, much like Merc 2. Even if you had to say somewhat close, it'd still be soooo much fun. And if they couldn't do co-op, why not do mission based MP? That'd also be awesome. Maybe in Far Cry 3? ;)

-JR

vancouver
06-16-09, 01:05 AM
I just started playing this game and I personally thinks irs great. I started on the Insane difficulty level so i dont really now any different. I do know that as soon as you choose insane you loose the cross hair.

You really have to take your time, scope and kill. I found a granade launcher early on and used it until it literally broke and disappeared. Its a fun game to take your time with. I am looking forward to weapon upgrades as I think they will help with recoil and power issues.

I just wish there were some air strike possibilities, and some deadly animals i.e. lions, boas (in the canals).

Scott Simonian
06-16-09, 01:57 PM
Yeah, I was hoping for some lethal animal encounters but alas...not in the game.

I play on whatever the 'normal' difficulty is though I turned the crosshairs off. Felt way more natural without them on.

Keep on playing. Do some main missions and cell phone tower 'assassin' missions to get some diamonds and be sure to pick up any you find along the way from one to another. Don't do all the missions at first, though. Do ALL of the convoy missions before you do all the others. This way you have all the weapons unlocked in the weapon store. In fact, try not to waste too many diamonds on the low level weapons that are open off the bat. They aren't that great and you can just keep picking up weapons as you go along. I found a golden AK early on so I never had to buy a nice assault rifle for some time (the golden ak degrades very slowly). All the "nicer, better" weapons found early in the game (usually in the safe houses) are already degraded so they won't be as effective as they are when they are brand new and they won't explode in your hand right away. ;)

JuiceRocket
06-17-09, 10:37 AM
Hey Scott,

Where do you find the golden AK? I've been spending way to much time on this game, but I've yet to find a gold weapon, I'd love a tip!

-JR

Scott Simonian
06-17-09, 12:43 PM
There are supposedly eight golden AK's in the game. They don't do any extra damage that I've noticed but they do last a very, very long time compared to any other weapon in the game. They will still degrade and rust if you use them too much or swim too much with it out...

Anyway, I've only found one and I used this Youtube video to find it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG0R6dYcHDo

It's in the first map, to the east of the map on the east side of this small fork in the road.

Oh! Here's a pic. :p

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/Bungholio55/GoldAK-47-1.jpg

It's nice to keep this on you or in your primary weapon crate cause you definitely don't want to just drop it. ;)

Nox
06-17-09, 12:45 PM
There are eight scattered throughout the game area. Search YouTube for Golden AK and you'll find videos to find them.

Here's one: FAR CRY 2 Golden AK-47 Locations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqp05vbJ5cs)

EDIT: Scott beat me to it.

Scott Simonian
06-17-09, 01:05 PM
Ahh... much nicer video you found there, Nox. That one shows where ALL the hidden AK's are.

syphon00
06-17-09, 03:50 PM
Big question for you guys that have downloaded the patch
IS THE SAVE GLITCH FIXED OR DOES THIS GAME STILL FREEZE RANDOMLY?

Scott Simonian
06-18-09, 12:57 PM
Not sure exactly how close I am to the end of the game yet (gotta be getting close) and I have had this character since Nov 08' and never had a messed up save. Not once, before or after the patch. The patch press release says that they have worked on that but the only way to know for sure is to play the game yourself and hope it doesn't happen to you.

Ramsrule
06-18-09, 01:51 PM
Big question for you guys that have downloaded the patch
IS THE SAVE GLITCH FIXED OR DOES THIS GAME STILL FREEZE RANDOMLY?

From what I've read, if your saved file is already corrupted via one of the various bugs, the patch will not magically fix it. Otherwise, you SHOULD be good to go.

syphon00
06-30-09, 10:37 AM
I'm official selling this POS game,
started from one of my good saves couple of days ago and it froze again after 2 hours
I'm just sick of playing the same missions over and over again....WTF Ubisoft this is essentially a defective product we should band together and demand a recall

JuiceRocket
06-30-09, 01:01 PM
There are supposedly eight golden AK's in the game. They don't do any extra damage that I've noticed but they do last a very, very long time compared to any other weapon in the game. They will still degrade and rust if you use them too much or swim too much with it out...

Anyway, I've only found one and I used this Youtube video to find it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG0R6dYcHDo

It's in the first map, to the east of the map on the east side of this small fork in the road.

Oh! Here's a pic. :p

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/Bungholio55/GoldAK-47-1.jpg

It's nice to keep this on you or in your primary weapon crate cause you definitely don't want to just drop it. ;)

What's hilarious...or I suppose ridiculous...is now that I've viewed the video on how to find them, I've actually "found" some of these gold AKs and haven't picked them up Because it flashes "gold" as does other weapons when you can pick them up, I just ignored them, thinking it was just another AK. Since I don't use the AK, I've just left them behind. Gotta love it.

-JR

KingRat
06-30-09, 07:00 PM
seemed to me like the golden AK's already had the accuracy/reliability upgrades applied to them...anyway, I took the first one I found and put it in the crate :)