Wish you had bought another set ?
Afraid the glass would break ?
Do you trust the manufactures weight capacity ?


Well after reading this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=713200&highlight=) I got a little concerned.

This is my set (http://salestores.com/bushvs107.html) with a 58A650.

Inputs are welcome

Thank you

Wish you had bought another set ?
Afraid the glass would break ?
Do you trust the manufactures weight capacity ?


Well after reading this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=713200&highlight=) I got a little concerned.

This is my set (http://salestores.com/bushvs107.html) with a 58A650.

Inputs are welcome

Thank you

scary indeed. but looking at that exploded glass picture, it seems there's nothing in the middle to provide support for the glass. my current stand is glass top too but there are bars to the left and right side of the middle area so i'm not worried about lack of support.

i'm guessing that stand was designed for RPTV's that have more depth and will be covering the entire surface, on top of the five cylinders. no way that can hold a 58" plasma sitting in the middle.

Wish you had bought another set ?
Afraid the glass would break ?
Do you trust the manufactures weight capacity ?


Well after reading this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=713200&highlight=) I got a little concerned.

This is my set (http://salestores.com/bushvs107.html) with a 58A650.

Inputs are welcome

Thank you

It was after reading that thread some time ago that I decided I would not buy a glass stand. Even though most are probably fine, I would be too worried about it.

It should be ok, looking at that thread I would just be careful in choosing a good brand.

I have the Bush tv stand for my 52" XBR4. Haven't had any issues with it other than it was missing the hardware. It probably helps that the XBR4 has a wide base on it. I have my tv base about 3/4" off the front edge of the glass, and the back of the base is about 4" off the rear of the glass. There are plenty of supports in the rear of the stand.

I'm not too worried about the glass breaking. What does worry me is the weight capacity of the lower and middle shelves. I'm sure they can take more than 50 pounds, but I'd hate to find out they can't!

I have the Bush tv stand for my 52" XBR4. Haven't had any issues with it other than it was missing the hardware. It probably helps that the XBR4 has a wide base on it. I have my tv base about 3/4" off the front edge of the glass, and the back of the base is about 4" off the rear of the glass. There are plenty of supports in the rear of the stand.

I'm not too worried about the glass breaking. What does worry me is the weight capacity of the lower and middle shelves. I'm sure they can take more than 50 pounds, but I'd hate to find out they can't!


Like this one ?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/2431792943_07d0b17372_b.jpg

Wish you had bought another set ?
Afraid the glass would break ?
Do you trust the manufactures weight capacity ?


Well after reading this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=713200&highlight=) I got a little concerned.

This is my set (http://salestores.com/bushvs107.html) with a 58A650.

Inputs are welcome

Thank you

Had my Bello for almost 2 years now and it's been a great stand. :)

One of the reaons I went to a custom woodmaker was to specifically not have any glass in my stand. Not for fear of it breaking but just because I don't like the look of glass. I never have. It always seems tacky and cheap looking to me. No offense to people who like it. I hated it when I found a decent wood stand only to see it had glass shelving. Plus I have a log cabin house so obviously I prefer wood more.

I've had my Bello stand with a 42" Panny 600U with no issues. I did see that on the broken stand there was no "part in the middle" to support most of the weight. There's no way I'd purchase one which is just glass in the center of the unit, no matter what the stated weight limit is.

I've had my Bello stand with a 42" Panny 600U with no issues. I did see that on the broken stand there was no "part in the middle" to support most of the weight. There's no way I'd purchase one which is just glass in the center of the unit, no matter what the stated weight limit is.

Yup that was my point, Bello is a great example.

I bought a Bell'o 4216 black glass stand and I love it! Received it last Tuesday and setup was mostly a breeze. This thing is HIGH QUALITY though; the specs say it'll support 200 lbs on the top shelf, and the Pioneer 5020 (that I will be receiving tomorrow :D ) is only 75 lbs, so I'm not worried in the slightest.

I would feel nervous about a cantilevered glass shelf holding a large and heavy television. But a steel frame (all four side) with a glass top has got to be about as strong as anything could be.

I would feel nervous about a cantilevered glass shelf holding a large and heavy television. But a steel frame (all four side) with a glass top has got to be about as strong as anything could be.

Not true. Glass is brittle and not a very good structural material. It gives no warning when it is going to go, and something relatively small hitting it can shatter it, especially when under stress.

No way would I trust glass to support an expensive 80-100 lb TV without something to support the weight directly underneath.

Not true. Glass is brittle and not a very good structural material. It gives no warning when it is going to go, and something relatively small hitting it can shatter it, especially when under stress.

No way would I trust glass to support an expensive 80-100 lb TV without something to support the weight directly underneath.

Yes, I understand glass's limitations quite well. But for me those limitation don't mean writing it off as a support surface in every situation. A thick enough piece of tempered glass bridging a sufficiently small distance has a huge safety margin for any reasonable load. The only question is how much are "thick enough", "sufficiently small" and "reasonable" as compared to the safety margin you wish to provide. I think glass is a wonderful structural material, as do any number of architects and designers.

Imagine a six-inch-thick piece of tempered glass, bridging a span of six inches between steel supports, supporting a load of ten pounds. I think any reasonable person would conclude that is a safe arrangement regardless of any conceivable insult to the glass surface.

Now imagine a half-inch-thick piece of temepred glass, bridging a span of six feet between steel supports, supporting a load of one hundred pounds. I think it would be foolish to trust that arrangement even if it nominally would support the load under favorable conditions.

So you've got to ask yourself where in that spectrum your situation falls. I'd say my television on my stand (half-inch glass with an unsupported span under two feet, seventy-five pound load) is quite capable of breaking down in a severe earthquake or if someone dropped some sort of metal or glass object weighing several pounds onto to the shelf from some height. But the odds of that happening in the next decade or so are probably one in a thousand, i.e. not worth worrying about.

But it's not an absolute question or else we'd dig down to bedrock in our back yards and put our televisions directly on a metaphysically stable foundation.

Yes, I understand glass's limitations quite well. But for me those limitation don't mean writing it off as a support surface in every situation. A thick enough piece of tempered glass bridging a sufficiently small distance has a huge safety margin for any reasonable load. The only question is how much are "thick enough", "sufficiently small" and "reasonable" as compared to the safety margin you wish to provide. I think glass is a wonderful structural material, as do any number of architects and designers.

Imagine a six-inch-thick piece of tempered glass, bridging a span of six inches between steel supports, supporting a load of ten pounds. I think any reasonable person would conclude that is a safe arrangement regardless of any conceivable insult to the glass surface.

Now imagine a half-inch-thick piece of temepred glass, bridging a span of six feet between steel supports, supporting a load of one hundred pounds. I think it would be foolish to trust that arrangement even if it nominally would support the load under favorable conditions.

So you've got to ask yourself where in that spectrum your situation falls. I'd say my television on my stand (half-inch glass with an unsupported span under two feet, seventy-five pound load) is quite capable of breaking down in a severe earthquake or if someone dropped some sort of metal or glass object weighing several pounds onto to the shelf from some height. But the odds of that happening in the next decade or so are probably one in a thousand, i.e. not worth worrying about.

But it's not an absolute question or else we'd dig down to bedrock in our back yards and put our televisions directly on a metaphysically stable foundation.

I agree with this, I was being too general. I will add though that when you have kids the odds of it breaking go up dramatically, and some stands are not designed very well.

Still, personally, I would not use glass spans to bear heavy loads at home.

Yeah...the phrase "any conceivable insult" has a whole 'nother sense when there are small children involved. We only have a cat and she wouldn't attack the television anyway, although if she were a little bigger I'll bet the subwoofer would be in serious danger.

I have been looking at that exact same stand from Bush as well! I was planning on getting it to go with a Panny 58pz800U. The stand says it holds up to 160lbs and the 800U is 136lbs. Should I be worried?

I saw the exact same stand in BB (the 52" wide version) and it looked pretty well constructed. The glass felt pretty darn thick.

I would appreciate any thoughts as well.

thanks!

Wish you had bought another set ?
Afraid the glass would break ?
Do you trust the manufactures weight capacity ?


Well after reading this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=713200&highlight=) I got a little concerned.

This is my set (http://salestores.com/bushvs107.html) with a 58A650.

Inputs are welcome

Thank you

I am a furniture buyer for a very large furniture retailer and I am often surprised when I see what electronics retailers charge for glass stands and RTA (ready to assemble) stands from companies like Bush, Sauder, etc. For the same money, and sometimes less, you can go to a furniture store and buy a real wood stand that is of much better quality and that will offer more flexabilty in terms of media storage. Not to mention that with a wood furniture stand you won't see all the mess of wires hanging down in the back like you will with a glass stand.

Don't be scared away when you walk into a furniture store and see a wall unit at $1899. Most furniture stores will sell the stand in the middle of the wall unit separately and the price will range anywhere from $299-$699. Why spend thousands on a flat panel TV only to put it on a stand that looks like it came from Wal-Mart?

I have a Bell'O PVS-4207HG and it's very sturdy.... I'm quite happy with it. The back support beam is SOLID....

http://bello.com/images/products/PVS-4207HG_Undressed.jpg


The gray version gives you a better idea as to how it's designed:

http://bello.com/images/products/PVS-4207T-Naked.jpg

I am a furniture buyer for a very large furniture retailer and I am often surprised when I see what electronics retailers charge for glass stands and RTA (ready to assemble) stands from companies like Bush, Sauder, etc. For the same money, and sometimes less, you can go to a furniture store and buy a real wood stand that is of much better quality and that will offer more flexabilty in terms of media storage. Not to mention that with a wood furniture stand you won't see all the mess of wires hanging down in the back like you will with a glass stand.

Don't be scared away when you walk into a furniture store and see a wall unit at $1899. Most furniture stores will sell the stand in the middle of the wall unit separately and the price will range anywhere from $299-$699. Why spend thousands on a flat panel TV only to put it on a stand that looks like it came from Wal-Mart?

I have no less than 18 cables hiding behind my console and hundreds of DVDs and CDs. Everything is behind doors with child proof latches and I replaced the component door glass with plexiglass.

So I wouldn't want an open design either, but still, that's a matter of personal taste.

I am a furniture buyer for a very large furniture retailer and I am often surprised when I see what electronics retailers charge for glass stands and RTA (ready to assemble) stands from companies like Bush, Sauder, etc. For the same money, and sometimes less, you can go to a furniture store and buy a real wood stand that is of much better quality and that will offer more flexabilty in terms of media storage. Not to mention that with a wood furniture stand you won't see all the mess of wires hanging down in the back like you will with a glass stand.

Don't be scared away when you walk into a furniture store and see a wall unit at $1899. Most furniture stores will sell the stand in the middle of the wall unit separately and the price will range anywhere from $299-$699. Why spend thousands on a flat panel TV only to put it on a stand that looks like it came from Wal-Mart?

Well Richard their are choices for us all out there and I happen to be one that purchased a Bell'O glass stand but it definitely doesn't look like some cheap stand from Walmart but instead creates a floating shelf atmosphere at night time and an elegant piece of furniture by day. You do realize that many of the better made stands also incorporate some sort of wire managment don't you?

I have a Bell'O FP-4850HG flat panel mounting system, which I got from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/BellO-FP-4850HG-Gloss-Mounting-System/dp/B000O3AMJM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1224622935&sr=1-3

Note that the TV is mounted on an integrated steel mount so that the glass shelves only have to hold components. Mine works well and seems to be very sturdy, although the TV mounted on it weighs 125 pounds. My grandson has my digital camera, so I can't send a photo of my setup. Sorry about that.