Just picked one of these up today at Magnolia for $750. It was replacing my 5 year old Polk 10". I haven't had a chance to really test it out what is everyones opinion?

Buckle up, this might get messy.


Tim

Never heard one.. I suppose it's a good subwoofer if you don't have enough room for anything larger.

I just got a SupercubeIII. It has great clarity for music and shakes the house on movies. Incredible for its size.

If you like it, that is what matters most. Will it outperform your old polk sub? Sure. Is it the best sub for $750? Not really. Check out any of the major internet direct sub companies like Epik, HSU, eD. If you can live with the larger size enclosures that these subs utilize, you can get a lot more performance for the money. Definitely check out those other companies and their owner threads in this forum. The good thing about buying it from a B&M is the fact you have 30 days to return it with no problems.

If you are not size limited...In my opinion, return it.RUSH!

As far as 12" cubes go, it's probably decent. Just don't expect miracles out of a 12" cube. When it comes to subs, big is better.

Also, definately do not believe Def Tech's specs. They lie even more than a politician 13 days before elections.

You might want to take a look at this chart:

http://www.home.comcast.net/~frank_carter/Nousaine.htm

The Supercube I ranks about 80th on the list, and the Supercube III ranks about 140th. The Supercube II should rank between the other two Supercubes.

For about the same amount of money, you could get the SVS SB-12 Plus $699 + shipping, (if you really need something small), or subs from the internet direct companies like HSU, SVS Ed, etc.

One example would be the HSU 3.3 for $799 delivered. It would give you the choice of running it in Maximum Extension, (with response to 18 Hz), or Maximum Output (response to 25 Hz but with more slam).

SVS PB-12 NSD, all around very good performer.

Several models from Elemental Design would easily outperform the SCII.

These responses were inevitable. Not allowed to mention anything other than ID retailers in here. I am not saying that there aren't better deals out there, as it will always be the case.

Don't let all of the hoopla discourage you. It is a good sub, and will bring many smiles during movies like "The Incredible Hulk" (you HAVE to get this on BD).

Like mentioned above. All that matters is if YOU like it.

Now the obvious. I personally own two SCII's, and I love them. Granted, I paid a little under half of retail ;). But nonetheless, I am very happy with their performance.

These responses were inevitable. Not allowed to mention anything other than ID retailers in here. I am not saying that there aren't better deals out there, as it will always be the case.



You're allowed to mention non-ID retailers. But it's just that most people are looking for performance value, and it's tough to touch the ID retailers in that respect.

I've felt the Supercubes were always pretty good for their size, and the bigger ones were excellent (well, for the price, it might be debatable.) But if you can fit a bigger sub in, the shortcomings of the Cubes become apparent. There's only so much you can do with a smaller sub in certain larger rooms. An eD A7-900 would fall a bit short in a gymnasium. But most of us don't live in gyms. ;)

You're allowed to mention non-ID retailers. But it's just that most people are looking for performance value, and it's tough to touch the ID retailers in that respect.

I've felt the Supercubes were always pretty good for their size, and the bigger ones were excellent (well, for the price, it might be debatable.) But if you can fit a bigger sub in, the shortcomings of the Cubes become apparent. There's only so much you can do with a smaller sub in certain larger rooms. An eD A7-900 would fall a bit short in a gymnasium. But most of us don't live in gyms. ;)

Lol, agreed.

Thanks for the opinions. I check some online reviews before making this purchase and they were favorable I am surprised by the responses here. Since my first post I have califbrated my system and the SCII is much better than my polk 10". The bass is much tighter and just stronger. My room isn't that large around 14' by 16'.

So far so good!

Thanks for the opinions. I check some online reviews before making this purchase and they were favorable I am surprised by the responses here. Since my first post I have califbrated my system and the SCII is much better than my polk 10". The bass is much tighter and just stronger. My room isn't that large around 14' by 16'.

So far so good!

I am glad you like your sub.

People on this forum are mostly way into subwoofers. They want something that has good response down to the frequencies of the largest pipe on a pipe organ; say, 16 Hz. Most people here are also looking for output levels over 110 db.

Small, relatively inexpensive subs just can't meet those criteria. People on this forum are more interested in the output levels on the chart I posted for you than they are in comments on Audioreview.

But, it doesn't matter as long as you like what you got.

You also have to take into account your room size. a very large sub in a small room is overkill. a small sub will do fine in a small room, plus you'll get a deeper frequency extention. i dont have any of those subs these guys mentioned, i have a pro sub 1000. its a 10" 300 watt sub. SVS, and ED will murder my sub yea of course, but my room is only 10x12 if not smaller. my sub souds amazing in my room, so you should get something to match your room size.

You also have to take into account your room size. a very large sub in a small room is overkill. a small sub will do fine in a small room, plus you'll get a deeper frequency extention. i dont have any of those subs these guys mentioned, i have a pro sub 1000. its a 10" 300 watt sub. SVS, and ED will murder my sub yea of course, but my room is only 10x12 if not smaller. my sub souds amazing in my room, so you should get something to match your room size.

There are a lot of people on this forum who are interested in deep extension and high output even though they have smaller rooms. For some people, an SVS SB -12 Plus is all they want or need in a small room. For others, a $2,000 sub from a company that sells only via internet is just right.

In my humble opinion, it is about expectations, not room size. Once ones expectations are well understood, then, a sub that meets those expectations can be scouted out. Of course, room size is ONE factor in determining how powerful a performer one needs to meet his expectations.

I guess. i was just saying room size plays a part also.

Also, definately do not believe Def Tech's specs. They lie even more than a politician 13 days before elections.

This bears repeating on a regular basis.

Yeah, suuuure the Mythos One goes down to 20Hz...:D

I am glad you like your sub.

People on this forum are mostly way into subwoofers. They want something that has good response down to the frequencies of the largest pipe on a pipe organ; say, 16 Hz. Most people here are also looking for output levels over 110 db.

Small, relatively inexpensive subs just can't meet those criteria. People on this forum are more interested in the output levels on the chart I posted for you than they are in comments on Audioreview.

But, it doesn't matter as long as you like what you got.

XBRSteve

Spyboy has it right! Pay attention to this and the later post he did. If YOU like it YOU picked the right sub for YOURSELF. Don't let anybody tell you your choice was a bad one. Internet Direct Subs are good but they are not the only thing out there for people with nice home theatres to buy. Bear in mind that there really is no replacement for displacement but that holds valid for those who have no space issues and want the biggest and baddest.

"Biggest and baddest" does not mean best for everyone. I have auditioned the SC1 with chapter 5 on WOTW and it sounded fantastic. I'm glad you are happy with your buy.

Enjoy the show! :)

These responses were inevitable. Not allowed to mention anything other than ID retailers in here. I am not saying that there aren't better deals out there, as it will always be the case.

Don't let all of the hoopla discourage you. It is a good sub, and will bring many smiles during movies like "The Incredible Hulk" (you HAVE to get this on BD).

Like mentioned above. All that matters is if YOU like it.


Fanaticalism -- in all fairness, he asked. He should expect honest answers, correct?

I haven't had a chance to really test it out what is everyones opinion?

Thanks for the opinions. I check some online reviews before making this purchase and they were favorable I am surprised by the responses here. Since my first post I have califbrated my system and the SCII is much better than my polk 10". The bass is much tighter and just stronger. My room isn't that large around 14' by 16'.

So far so good!Exactly why did you come here asking for opinions if, 1, you had already made the purchase and, 2, you had not yet set it up properly and given it a spin?

What sort of response were you looking for? Did you want some sort of affirmation? You should take online reviews with a grain of salt. Of course most of what you read will be favorable. And you should realize that the people who respond here telling you you made a mistake are absolutely convinced that buying an ID sub is the best option. And it may be. Just be aware of their bias. Although some of them may have heard your particular sub, properly calibrated, in a real-life setting, and can be trusted for reasonable advice and critique, a lot of them simply have a herd mentality.

As has been pointed out, all that matters is that you are happy with it. But if you want the seeds of doubt to be planted in your head, just keep reading this thread. My recommendation would be to go enjoy it and don't come back here unless you have a question related to using it properly. Or if you become unhappy with it in the future.

My apologies to the cattle but sometimes it just has to be said.

Exactly why did you come here asking for opinions if, 1, you had already made the purchase and, 2, you had not yet set it up properly and given it a spin?

What sort of response were you looking for? Did you want some sort of affirmation? You should take online reviews with a grain of salt. Of course most of what you read will be favorable. And you should realize that the people who respond here telling you you made a mistake are absolutely convinced that buying an ID sub is the best option. And it may be. Just be aware of their bias. Although some of them may have heard your particular sub, properly calibrated, in a real-life setting, and can be trusted for reasonable advice and critique, a lot of them simply have a herd mentality.

As has been pointed out, all that matters is that you are happy with it. But if you want the seeds of doubt to be planted in your head, just keep reading this thread. My recommendation would be to go enjoy it and don't come back here unless you have a question related to using it properly. Or if you become unhappy with it in the future.

My apologies to the cattle but sometimes it just has to be said.

Well said.

My only beef with Definitive Audio subs is that their specs aren't realistic, but other than that, I wouldn't go out of my way to dissaude anybody from considering/buying/enjoying one especially if they like the idea of a small box sub. When I went looking for small subs, the Supercubes did a good job for their size, and they sounded fine to my ears. I actually heard one *today* and it was quite good coming from a small box.

I'm glad I didn't start this post. Even after spending more than 3 weeks and an additional 5 hours last night reading less than favorable (and maybe even substantiated) opinions of DefTechs Subs, mullling over purchasing an SVS SB12+, Velo SPL1200R and the DefTech SC I, I went to the retailer, demo'd extensively, haggled unabashedly and purchased a SC I.
I've been almost scared to make this purchase after reading the comments on this forum. No one wants to feel ripped off on a purchase. I'm no exception. I love HT and I love music, I've been a musician for 20 years and owned varying degrees of HT for almost as long.
Please let me make this clear, I'm not questioning anyones qualifications, experitise or methodology. However, I own a sub and have owned a couple others on the chart (http://www.home.comcast.net/~frank_carter/Nousaine.htm) that has been held in very high esteem by members of this forum. Without being argumentative, I can say that I can't regard it as the authority on what "performs" or "sounds good" in every situation. I've have a sub relegated to "bedroom theater" duty, that is in the top 45 on that list that does not produce with nearly the authority of the DefTech. Believe me, I'm no fanboy of DefTech, I think they simply make very good equipment, not on par with the top ID companies by any means. But they do make decent subs that IMO work well in space restricted areas such as my own (12X17). They smoke most anything else you will find in the brick and mortar shops (CC, BB, UE) and do a decent job of keeping up with other well known sub mfgs. No, the will not give you the depth of larger JL or SVS or HSU. But at the price point and at their size, again IMO, they are very decent at what they do. Just my couple cents worth.

Fanaticalism -- in all fairness, he asked. He should expect honest answers, correct?

I have to agree with you NewOrlnsDukie. In this instance, it was in fact asked. I was indeed rash to make such a statement.

I think the problem lies, at least for me, that when others, myself included, have mentioned a brand other than ID, you kind of get the repeat posters barragging and berrating the OP for making such a foolish decision with such a purchase in the first place. Followed by the typical, "look at xyz if you want a real abc".

Just to clarify, there have been no such posts, by any of the "typical" posters in this thread.

I for one, know very well that there are much better subs at this specific price point than what I currently own. Most being ID ;). But given what I got them for, I can't complain :)

Just picked one of these up today at Magnolia for $750. It was replacing my 5 year old Polk 10". I haven't had a chance to really test it out what is everyones opinion?


Without knowing the specifics of the Polk you replaced (I'm assuming it's an average Polk like a PSW10 likewise), I would say the SCII is a big leap up. Congrats on your purchase, I think you'll be impressed to say the least.

Exactly why did you come here asking for opinions if, 1, you had already made the purchase and, 2, you had not yet set it up properly and given it a spin?

What sort of response were you looking for? Did you want some sort of affirmation? You should take online reviews with a grain of salt. Of course most of what you read will be favorable. And you should realize that the people who respond here telling you you made a mistake are absolutely convinced that buying an ID sub is the best option. And it may be. Just be aware of their bias. Although some of them may have heard your particular sub, properly calibrated, in a real-life setting, and can be trusted for reasonable advice and critique, a lot of them simply have a herd mentality.



1. I have 30 days to take it back. 2. It's not like it took me days to set it up just minutes after posting. The reason I ask is for the same reason I read the reviews in the first place. It can't hurt to have more opinions.

I liked the way sounded so I think I am keeping it but if I had heard something like they quality issues (amps or speakers blowing out) that would have definately changed my mine on keeping it.

Wow, I can't believe your drilling me for asking this. I thought that what this site was for to get opinions and possible options is it not? I may not post here a lot but I have been a member for some time and have read a lot of post and what I asked was not unreasonable.

Ok back to enjoying Home Theater..