View Full Version : Why did U buy the sub U bought ??


kgveteran
10-23-08, 08:47 PM
What was it that lead you to your purchase. I'm sure there are at least 500 different models let alone manufacturers. You might have just heard a review and made a purchase. What ever it was, let 'em know.

Kg

I know I'm a dye-in-the wool DIY guy, but I just wanted to know why...

ribbit
10-23-08, 09:01 PM
1) because i could not wait for the sub i ordered in #2
2) because it had great reviews and hype
3) because it was the flagship of one company
4) because i thought more of #1 would give me "pressurization"
5) because i fell for the hype
6) same unit as #5 bought the same time
7) because i wanted to see how it would match 5 and 6
8) same unit as #7 bought the same time
9) 10) 11) 12) because 7 and 8 was good, i wanted to try their entry levels (different models)
13) 14) 15) 16) same unit as 7 and 8 because they're that good

Tulpa
10-23-08, 09:27 PM
I have a Bic Acoustech H-100.

Good rep (on here) for the price.

Fast delivery.

Next level up (eD A2-300) was more than I wanted to spend (at the time, $375. It's dipped and risen since then and I may have reconsidered when it was low.)

Didn't need something huge, but wanted something better than the HTIB sub I was using.

That's about it.

ransac
10-23-08, 09:58 PM
Because of this forum. I had never heard of SVS, HSU, AV123.... until I found this place. What sealed the deal was the customer service I received from the manufacturer. The reason I bought what I did was to get the BIG bass I didn't find in the commercial stores, but for less money than I found at the specialty stores.

Javatime
10-23-08, 10:17 PM
I bought a Def Tech sub while I was out buying my Def Tech L/R/C speakers. I hadn't planned on buying the sub at the time, but it sounded great and they gave me a great price so I just went with it.

sourbeef
10-23-08, 10:24 PM
because of this forum. I had never heard of svs, hsu, av123.... Until i found this place. What sealed the deal was the customer service i received from the manufacturer. The reason i bought what i did was to get the big bass i didn't find in the commercial stores, but for less money than i found at the specialty stores.

+1

Bygracealone
10-23-08, 11:20 PM
I'm waiting for mine to arrive... Today I ordered the Energy s10.3.

I bought the s.103 because I like the way my Energy bookshelves and cc sound and because the brand has a good reputation overall. In addition to these reasons, I did some homework (in this forum, etc.) and I liked what I read. Price was also a factor; I picked mine up for $150 shipped (it's a refurb)! This is an upgrade from the sub that came with my Onkyo 790 HTIB, which I've never really even listened to (I haven't had the time or the mounts to hang all the speakers). That said, after hearing the criticisms of HTIB speakers in general, I knew I would want to be upgrading eventually and this deal happened to come upon me at an opportune time. I'm sure I'll be pleased with its performance.

BTW, I was a noobie when I joined this forum back in Feb 2007 and I'm still one at this point. I look forward to learning more and more and enjoying my system more and more as time goes by... Sorry for being so wordy...

MIkeDuke
10-24-08, 07:31 AM
I have only had three subs in my HT life. The reason I purchased my most recent one is simple. I am physically unable to install my own equipment so ID is out. There were no stores around me that carried what I would call high quality HT subs. So, I got the Seaton Sound SubMersive1. I mean, it's built by Mark Seaton for crying out loud. That is enough for me. Now, I told Mark that if I got this sub, that he would have to install it. He agreed so I got one. But before I purchased it I found out as much as could about it. After numerous and lengthy PM's, I decided that this was the one. I have not been disappointed. One more little thing that helped me over the edge. it Ed Mullen helped to push me in this direction. I talked to him about some things a while ago and I took his advise. I am glad I did :).

TnTBigman
10-24-08, 09:31 AM
my finailsts were: AV123, SVS, Epik and eD.

1)Wanted a top notch sub within a resonable budget, that I won't have to upgrade for.....ever.
2) Powerful for a 5300 cu ft room.
2) Craigsub reviews and The Ear recomendations.
3) Performance / Price ratio.
4) Feedback from owners.

Decided on the Epik Tower and I am extremely happy.

cacihome
10-24-08, 10:00 AM
1) because i could not wait for the sub i ordered in #2
2) because it had great reviews and hype
3) because it was the flagship of one company
4) because i thought more of #1 would give me "pressurization"
5) because i fell for the hype
6) same unit as #5 bought the same time
7) because i wanted to see how it would match 5 and 6
8) same unit as #7 bought the same time
9) 10) 11) 12) because 7 and 8 was good, i wanted to try their entry levels (different models)
13) 14) 15) 16) same unit as 7 and 8 because they're that good

HAHAHHAHAHAHA...Very funnyy...:D

c-not-k
10-24-08, 10:19 AM
Because I had a good experience with the manufacturers other speakers (Polk).

I have a PWS-505. It's OK, not great. I built part of my HT around it, and now I'm stuck.

I wish I had read here first.

The sub is not bad, but not a great value IMHO.

The good news is I'll just add a second sub the the HT. (Probably and Epik.)

MKtheater
10-24-08, 10:26 AM
I tried DIY just to hear what it was all about. The price/performance is real. I wanted the power of 4 pb12/plus/2's but with the cost of 1. What I got was the power of 8 for the price of 1.5 with deeper extension to boot. I am still amazed.

KevinH
10-24-08, 10:29 AM
Because I'm an HT whore!

My progression:

I started with a 75 watt sealed entry level M&K before SVS, HSU, or anyone else was around.

Got the bug quick after that.

Went to dual M&K MX125's

Went to dual original SVS 16-46CS's when they came on the scene.

Went to dual SVS 16-46CS+'s when they added a better driver.

Added the entry SVS dual box sub.

Got the 12.3 drivers for the tubes and changed those out.

Sold the SVS box and bought an Ultra/2 box

That's where I stand 10 years later.

Dual 16Hz tubes and Ultra/2 tuned to 16Hz still rawkin the joint. Feel no need to upgrade. Fixing to add JTR speakers so I can't say a DTS20 won't be in the future.

Richter
10-24-08, 05:15 PM
Because I had a good experience with the manufacturers other speakers (Polk).

I have a PWS-505. It's OK, not great. I built part of my HT around it, and now I'm stuck.

I wish I had read here first.

The sub is not bad, but not a great value IMHO.

The good news is I'll just add a second sub the the HT. (Probably and Epik.)

I have that same sub, the PSW505.
I bought it because :
1. I was uninformed
2. it was inexpensive
3. I thought sub brand should match my towers.
4. see 1

NewOrlnsDukie
10-24-08, 05:30 PM
WRT my current subs

Epik Conquest

1) wanted to nip upgrade-itis for my main Ht
2) Can keep up with my mains, which are Line Sources that go down to almost 20Hz in room
3) Was the best value I could find, as I have neither the tools nor the patience for DIY.
4) Could allow me to have just one sub rather than duals for the room (wife wouldn't have stood for duals in the room)
5) Has adequate spl for a large space
6) first read about it here on AVS, and my conversation with Chad was quite helpful


Dual MFW-15's
1) wanted a duals setup for my secondary HT, and didn't want to spend 2k
2) have always gotten great products and CS from Mark and the AV123 gang
3) Could get it in B-stock for $450 each.
4) perfect height for 'end-tables' for the room
5) Not a huge power draw, as I have a number of other components on the same circuit
6) Seaton

SVS 16-46PC+
1) Not a big footprint, which was perfect for my home office
2) wanted a low-tuned sub in my collection
3) wanted to try an SVS, as I had heard only good things about them (and the CS was top-notch as well)
4) didn't need huge spl, as it is a fairly small room


Now the question is how to convince the wife to let me put a Hsu in the bedroom. :D

Scott Simonian
10-24-08, 06:18 PM
I built my Tempest because everyone was buying SVS Ultra's or Tumult's at the time.

Then I built two 18's because most people had two 15's or one 18 at the time.

Now it's time to add more because others around these parts have quad 18's. But I can't just stop at quad 18's either. MKTheater will soon have eight 18's for me to compete with. ;)

It never ends. :p

:D :D :D

Josette
10-25-08, 09:45 AM
I didn't know anything about subs, I did a lot of shopping and research, etc. Posted a "What sub should I buy?" topic here, that's the first I'd ever heard of the internet direct stuff. The eD subs were recommended, and once I read the spec's for the A2-300 (18 Hz, weights 70 lbs.) I was mightily impressed. It also had a great rep here on the forum. It was a bit more than I wanted to spend, but then it went on sale and that pretty much selaed the deal.

Tremendously happy with my purchase. Had it for several months now and it still makes me grin :D

Herc
10-25-08, 10:41 AM
I built my Tempest because everyone was buying SVS Ultra's or Tumult's at the time.

Then I built two 18's because most people had two 15's or one 18 at the time.

Now it's time to add more because others around these parts have quad 18's. But I can't just stop at quad 18's either. MKTheater will soon have eight 18's for me to compete with. ;)

It never ends. :p

:D :D :D

Instead of moving the air with respect to you ears, wouldn't it be cheaper to mount the motors to your lazyboy and move your ears with respect to the air?

ndskurfer
10-25-08, 11:25 AM
Bought my PC13 for 2 reasons:


Owners from this forum have nothing but great things to say
My old Paradigm PDR12 was not doing the job

DS-21
10-26-08, 01:58 AM
Because I found a deal on two NOS subs (M-Design Eleganza Bella) with Aura NS12-794-4A's with built-in plate amps and beautiful cabinetry for significantly less than the price of just the raw driver, and I'd always wanted to play with the top-tier underhung Aura drivers.

As for the main sub, I bought the driver (Maelstrom-X) based on the facts that it was an 18 with an XBL^2 motor and 33mm of xmax coupled to what looks like a very smart shorting ring arrangement and extremely low inductance. I picked the amp (Crown XTi2000) because it had adequate power, a nifty parametric EQ built in that could handle a Linkwitz Transform (shelf filters) and such, and the price was reasonable. I commissioned the cabinet from eD because I'm not patient enough to make anything I'd be willing to look at, and other people seemed happy with their work for the price.

CADOBHuK
10-26-08, 02:54 AM
A7s-450:
18"
1300w
sealed+big
cost less than 12" hsu
mfw-15 wasnt out and I didnt expect it to be that great, so no real competition below 1k shipped which was the most i wanted to spend

kgveteran
11-11-08, 04:56 PM
bump

Snowmanick
11-11-08, 05:08 PM
I don't have the tools, skills or patience to do it myself, that being said

PB12-Plus: Good reviews, solid rep for the company, good specs.
MFW-15: see above

Both had too meet a certain aesthetic level for my wife to agree as our set up is in our living room, both subs met that goal.

thirdeye11
11-11-08, 05:16 PM
my finailsts were: AV123, SVS, Epik and eD.

1)Wanted a top notch sub within a resonable budget, that I won't have to upgrade for.....ever.
2) Powerful for a 5300 cu ft room.
2) Craigsub reviews and The Ear recomendations.
3) Performance / Price ratio.
4) Feedback from owners.

Decided on the Epik Tower and I am extremely happy.

Almost my thought process exactly, except for #1. I'm not sure I will NEVER upgrade :D If I have the space I will most definitely go IB one day. I also never spoke to The Ear, but craigsub's list was crucial as it was measureable and objective results for the most part.

Owner feedback, price/performance sealed the deal for me.

Interestingly enough the above poster and I ended up with the same sub. My ONLY complaint with Epik is a lack of communication available by phone. Some recently have stated that their email response has been better than in months previous, but I suspect that is only because they're out of materials to ship at the moment except for the Conquest. Everything else is on hold indefinitely. So if you're unwilling to wait a couple of months for any model outside the Conquest, your wait is going to be considerable.

I should note that there is also a wait on the Conquest, but it is available within several weeks time. The other models are not able to be ordered currently.

-Chad

amicusterrae
11-12-08, 12:12 PM
Bought an Infinity SW-12, primarily for the RABOS room equalization. I wish this type of function was more widespread.

Kex
11-12-08, 06:39 PM
Much of what I read here, and at Club Polk has influenced my decisions, as well as my previous experience with a NAD integrated amplifier and Cabasse speakers (2 channel only, no sub), that worked very well together. I do try to filter what information I lend the most importance to, especially after a failed Emotiva trial (despite all the hype here, and at Audioholics), and use that to arrive at a final decision. My two subwoofer decisions were based (a) on trying out surround sound for HT with my first sub ... and eventually DVD-A and SACD, and then (b) on achieving better results (tighter bass, more control) for music listening with my second purchase, a Rythmik F12G.

ssabripo
11-13-08, 09:34 AM
is this good enough reason?


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/ssabripo/ava18%20sealed%20measurements/8-13-08quad-sealedv5001lteqapplied.jpg

steve nn
11-13-08, 09:45 AM
is this good enough reason?
I dunno Sherv?.. your starting to roll at a pretty good clip around 5HZ. Might want to add a little Q:)

mrcoop
11-13-08, 10:08 AM
After reading a zillion reviews ..room size, 2600 cubic, I look at cost/value. Went with HSU's products. Not dissapointed at all.

Pinstripe
11-13-08, 12:04 PM
2) Craigsub reviews and The Ear recomendations.


The Ear? Are you referring to your own hearing or are these reviews?

sivadselim
11-13-08, 01:16 PM
The Ear? Are you referring to your own hearing or are these reviews?Do an advanced search here on username "The EAR". Whether he is a definitive source of good info is arguable (sorry EAR). I think he garners some respect, here.

sivadselim
11-13-08, 01:28 PM
Why did U buy the sub U bought ??OK, I'll answer.

Honestly, because I didn't really know any better. :o Complete noob, actually. All I knew when picking my speakers (then, KEF Qs) and sub was that I knew what sounded good to me and what didn't. I had probably driven the dealer batty switching my speakers out 2.5 times after in-home listening (first Def Tech, then Klipsch, then 1.5 iterations of KEFs) and felt a little bit indebted to them since they had let me return so many speakers. So, when I decided I didn't at all like the Def Tech sub I had bought there, I took it back, listened to several in the showrooms, and realized I wasn't going to be happy until I bought the best (and most expensive) sub they had. They had become so familiar (and probably pissed) with me by this time that I was able to get a reasonably decent discount on it; still expensive, though. That's how I ended up with the RSW-15.

I love it, especially for music listening, which is, by far, my priority. As far as I have been able to ascertain in retrospect, I did pretty well in that department. I have had it for ~5 years now and have never, ever yearned for anything else, even after discovering the online HT communities like this one and being exposed to so many other sub options and raves. Maybe ignorance is bliss. :eek:

AndyGood
11-13-08, 09:47 PM
I bought a Martin Logan Grotto at a Tweeter closeout, I considered the Internet Direct route and understand the superior price per pound ratio they represent but at the end of the day, I decided against the biggest/loudest/cheapest/best spec'd box that would dominate my living room (& home) and went with something that doesn't threaten my marriage, impede my families ability to sleep and is easier on the decor.

Suprisingly, I still get great relative bass albeit I forfeit the bragging rights of having the heaviest sub among my fellow enthusiasts. At one point though, when times where better, I had a JL 112 which gave me my fill of knocking pictures off the wall and that is supposedly one of the all time champs and not even something you have to get from your friendly ID dealer who has no serious sales focus (wink, wink).

For some of you who don't want to explain why there is a 125 pound box that your wife needs to sign for on your front porch, there are plenty of subs that can be found discounted locally that get you in the ballpark of ID pricing, any premium paid can be considered well spent if your goals are easy returns, buying from a dealer that has an upgrade program, warranty service and seamless integration (my defination of integration is being able to sneak it behind the couch while the wife is upstairs).

Dal1as
11-14-08, 02:42 PM
I bought the Klipsch RT-12D for a few reasons.

1. It's a very nice sub.
2. I got it for almost half off buying the whole 83 reference system.
3. It's not too large for the layout of my current home theater. Most comparable subs wouldn't fit where I'd need to put them.

dbarb3
11-14-08, 03:41 PM
eD a3-300 upgraded driver $495 shipped to my door

best bang for the buck in my price range

like it

rabident
11-15-08, 05:13 PM
In no particular order:

1) Everyone said it was good (hype)
2) Dealer let me take it home & try it over the weekend in my home for free
3) It was easy - no box to build, crawl under the house, cut holes in the floor, etc
4) Sounded better than what I have
5) High WAF
6) I bought my last sub 10 years ago, so I didn't feel bad using 2 weeks savings on a new one

Franin
11-16-08, 07:41 AM
What was it that lead you to your purchase. I'm sure there are at least 500 different models let alone manufacturers. You might have just heard a review and made a purchase. What ever it was, let 'em know.

Kg

I know I'm a dye-in-the wool DIY guy, but I just wanted to know why...

I bought my two subs because I've read pos reviews just about everywhere on them. Now that I have them, I know why:D