Originally posted by bgall
So you have adelphia in the Miami market?

Does that mean you have miami stations and not WPB?

Well assuming that you'll get to keep your voom box and it will still receive OTA you'll be fine, otherwise I wouldn't recommend adelphia as your only source for HD in the WPB market because they are still missing CBS,UPN,and PBS. Adelphia system wide still doesnt carry TNT or Universal, however they are supossed to be adding ESPN2

Hopefully I will still be able to use the antenna and the Voom STB for OTA...who knows! Right now I am able to view all Miami and most WPB stations...
I do have Adelphia Standard Cable through my HOA and it's only Miami market stations, obviously in Analog SD.

Adelphia's current HD offering in my area (SW Broward) is the following:

702 WFOR HD WFOR High Definition Broadcast HD (High Definition)
703 WSVN HD WSVN FOX (High Definition) Broadcast HD (High Definition)
704 WTVJ HD WTVJ HD Broadcast HD (High Definition)
761 HD NET HD NET Broadcast HD (High Definition)
762 HDN MOVIES HD NET MOVIES Broadcast HD (High Definition)
765 ESPN HD ESPN High Definition HD PLUS TIER
766 DISC HD Discovery High Definition HD PLUS TIER

If you sub to their premium channels you also get:

750 HD HBO High Definition HBO HBO HD (High Definition)
751 HD SHOWTIME High Definition Showtime Showtime HD (High Definition)
752 HD STARZ Starz High Definition Starz HD (High Definition)

Pay Per View:

763 INHD1 iNDemand HD HD PLUS TIER
764 INHD2 iNDemand HD 2 HD PLUS TIER

Seems like it's the same as in WPB lacking CBS HD and the others you mention.

well in miami Adeplhia is lacking ABC this time, but yup you're still down 1 major network and then the minors which are less of a deal

Originally posted by bgall
well in miami Adeplhia is lacking ABC this time, but yup you're still down 1 major network and then the minors which are less of a deal
You're right...my bad it's ABC that's missing!

INHD1 & 2 are not pay-per-view channels but rather actual HD channels with programming kind of similar to HDNet and Discovery HD. They show some IMAX stuff and also carry MLB and other sports in HD.

You may want to check but I don't think the DVI or HDMI inputs/oututs are active for Adelphia on the Scientific Atlanta 8300 HD.

The HDMI port on my Adelphia 8300HD is indeed active.

Well thats good to know, last time I heard people were telling me it wasn't and forget about calling the CSR, we all know how that goes.

Which cable do you need? I read something about male or female and also do you need another cable for audio or will the optical from the cable box to the receiver be enough?

Originally posted by lwhitefl
.... The only consolation is NBC doesn't contain much HD programming anyway - especially sports, thank goodness you’re not broadcasting the NFL or MLB!


uh oh!!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=531539

damn :(

Originally posted by bgall
uh oh!!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=531539

damn :(

NFL Football fans are in deep deep do-do now!:mad:

NBC? Monday Night Football? That's sick! Do you think WPTV can get their S*T together in two years? I doubt it.

Originally posted by ElectricPickle
NBC? Monday Night Football? That's sick! Do you think WPTV can get their S*T together in two years? I doubt it.
Sunday Night Football to NBC, Monday Night to ESPN. But yeah, your point is still is valid. ;)

Marlins in HD for 2006!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=531853

Any Adelphia people notice the indemand channels being activated something like 900 thru 920. Does anyone know if its free if you subscribe to each movie channel?

Haven't checked that out yet clfnole, but will later tonight.

For those wondering about the SA 8300HD (that Adelphia uses) who haven't gotten it yet, read a decent article about it here (http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6209060-1.html?tag=cnetfd.sd).

900-920 are VOD channels. The Free On Demand channel has some good stuff on it, and Movies On Demand has some good stuff as well, a mix of old & new. I think to get the others you need to subscribe. I'm not sure if you only have to subscribe to that channel (ie HBO on demand) or the particular channel package (HBO, SHO, etc).

My boxes still say not authorized for all the VOD channels.

I spoke with a CSR today and she informed me that if you subscribe to the channel the service is free. The pay-per-view events and movies have a cost as does the adult movies. But the movie channels - HBO, Starz, Showtime, Cinemax are free to current subscribers.

Not all the channels currently are working but will be in the next week or so according to them. We'll see. The Free On Demand channel does work though.

hopefully I'll be living in a different state before the switch. How's the HD in Alaska???

David McRoy - I PM'd you.

Time Warner, Comcast to buy Adelphia (http://news.com.com/Time+Warner%2C+Comcast+to+buy+Adelphia/2100-1034_3-5679356.html?tag=nefd.top)

Looks like it finally happened. I guess they'll split certain areas on who gets which service. Hopefully we'll get Comcast in PBC (since they're developing that new Tivo-Comcast DVR). :)

Time Warner's press release shows some of the system swaps and Comcast will be taking over Adelphia's S. Florida Systems as well as some of Time Warner's west coast and central systems.

I hope this is good.

Is 12-1 not transmitting over the air? I have not had a signal in a couple days.

12-1 is up and running. No sub channel maybe the picture and sound will be even better!

ooo goodie!!

Bgall was 12-1 not working for a couple days or was it the last ghost in my Voom receiver?

Yes, I was having some problems getting 12-1 last week. It was there but would drop out a lot.

My receiver mutes the signal when it goes under 80 in strength, so that must have been the problem. Thanks a lot for the quick reply.

for those that are up and actually watch Conan, let's hope WPTV is all set to pass Conan's first HD show which is tonight :)

ahahahahaha dumbasses at WPTV had the Conan HD feed up and then switched over to the SD feed.

At least WTVJ knows whats goin on.

Edit: Looks like they figured it out.

I would hope they'd know it's in HD, he's only said it like 50 times, and of course the SD feed is letterboxed

I am an Adelphia subscriber in Port St Lucie with an SA8300HD and have really been unhappy as we all have regarding the lack of CBS HD programming. I decided to get a Fusion 3 card to capture some streams and maybe try and add an antenna for CBS. I went through several channel scans and enabled the subchannel search feature (3.0 RC1 software released 4/22/05) and lo and behold on Digital 107.5 is the WPEC 1080i signal. I successfully recorded Judging Amy last night to be sure as Amazing Race was in SD. Don't know what the deal is but it was there this morning as well. Its certainly not on any 7XX channel on my STB so who knows???

Wow cool, that means the channel is on their system but hidden to receivers. This is a good sign that the channel might be coming to customers boxes soon, but for now enjoy your "work around" to get the channel :D

They're testing in preparation for official launch. You may see it getting yanked off for a while until a formal agreement is reached, which hopefully will be soon.

Hello all,

My 97’ 55” Toshiba 4:3 broke on the weekend and went out and bought a Mitsubishi WS65615 16:9 HD RPTV. Installed it yesterday and programmed all of the Adelphia Cable channels. I called Adelphia CS to find out about HD Cable and they said that they currently only carry CBS, NBC, and ABC ????

When you go to the Adelphia web site, you cannot search for the program options available in Boca (or any other city in SoFLA for that matter). Thus, I have no idea what Adelphia offers or how to get it hooked up; or even if it is worth the price. As well, does anyone know which premium channels are available, if any?

As well, from what I read on this thread, you can pick up local HD signals via antenna? If so, how?

Thanks!

Jon.

Yeah, it was off when I got home yesterday. As long as it is up by football season I guess my head won't explode. New it was too good to be true.

My co-worker lives in Vero and has a Sanyo HDTV with qam tuning. He has does a channel scan every couple of days on the Comcast up there and has found some things which come and go. Someone in Vero told him Comcast there gets their WPB ota dtv channels actually as a handoff from Adelphia. (No CBS there either)

Originally posted by imageWIS

As well, from what I read on this thread, you can pick up local HD signals via antenna? If so, how?

Thanks!

Jon.

Hi, Jon,

I looked up your new set on the Mitsubishi website and noted that it can receive digital QAM cable signals as well as tune local over the air analog NTSC and digital ATSC signals. To get locals over the air just install a VHF/UHF antenna and attach it to the local antenna input on the back of the set and do a channel scan for the local stations. You should see both the analog and digital signal show up. Your owner's manual should tell you how to do this.

Originally posted by imageWIS
When you go to the Adelphia web site, you cannot search for the program options available in Boca (or any other city in SoFLA for that matter). Thus, I have no idea what Adelphia offers or how to get it hooked up; or even if it is worth the price. As well, does anyone know which premium channels are available, if any? Put in your zip code on this page: http://www.adelphia.com/cable_entertainment/channel_line_ups.cfm

I dunno when it happened but the channel lineup shows that the HBO and Cinemax analog cahnnels have been removed, so the must be making space for more HD...

Originally posted by Panth1
Put in your zip code on this page:

Awesome! Thanks. Although only 11 channels is a bit disparaging.

Alas, I have no idea how to watch TV now on my new 16:9. If I leave the TV on 4:3 mode to watch ‘regular’ cable I risk burn-in on my new set (according to what I have read on the forum and what the Mitsubishi manual says) and if I watch in either standard / zoom / stretch / stretch plus modes I am left with a distorted image.

What am I to do?

Jon.

Originally posted by imageWIS
If I leave the TV on 4:3 mode to watch ‘regular’ cable I risk burn-in on my new set (according to what I have read on the forum and what the Mitsubishi manual says) and if I watch in either standard / zoom / stretch / stretch plus modes I am left with a distorted image.

What am I to do?

Jon.

Select gray pilars (gray side panels) for 4:3 480i programming. I've been using gray panels on 4:3 480i for 5 years on my Zenith CRT rear-projection HDTV with no burn-in evident. Just be sure to turn your contrast down to a reasonable level (low enough for a natural image in a darkened room) to avoid premature CRT aging and image burn-in. I also wouldn't watch MSNBC all day! (Unless you want their logo permanently etched on your screen.)

Most TV sets are set at the factory for blazingly bright, high-contrast pictures to catch your eye in the store. But this gives you an unnatural picture and wears out the CRTs rapidly.

Originally posted by David McRoy
Select gray pilars (gray side panels) for 4:3 480i programming. I've been using gray panels on 4:3 480i for 5 years on my Zenith CRT rear-projection HDTV with no burn-in evident. Just be sure to turn your contrast down to a reasonable level (low enough for a natural image in a darkened room) to avoid premature CRT aging and image burn-in. I also wouldn't watch MSNBC all day! (Unless you want their logo permanently etched on your screen.)

Most TV sets are set at the factory for blazingly bright, high-contrast pictures to catch your eye in the store. But this gives you an unnatural picture and wears out the CRTs rapidly.

I did turn the contrast and brightness, but then the picture looks really bad. I think I am just going to exchange the set for a DLP or LCD, at least then I could watch all the 4:3 TV I want without worrying about burn-in…after all for the price paid, I should be able to actually watch the TV? As well, burn-in is NOT covered by the warranty.

Jon.

What's the latest news on High Def signal from WPTV 5-1 NBC out of Palm Beach? I'm still having problems with it dropping out about every 4 secs or so. Signal strength fluctuates all over the place.

Thanks - Terry

Yes, my signal flucuates constantly as well.

Supossedly it's because they're sending out too strong of a signal, if you can believe that (lol) so the antennas get overload and cause rejection.

Luckily mine fluxuates but never drops out

Maybe WPTVDT is working on allowing Hughes E86 receivers to pickup the station again:D. Don't get me started on this third rate WPB digital station:mad:

Originally posted by lwhitefl
Maybe WPTVDT is working on allowing Hughes E86 receivers to pickup the station again:D. Don't get me started on this third rate WPB digital station:mad:


doubtful...I know you had a smiley...but I am frustrated too...especially since the picture and audio gives a much better presentation than wtvj since they added the weather subchannel, and I get it fine on my hughes htl-hd...oh well...

Confession:

I finally gave up on getting WPTV-DT and WTVJ-DT with my E86 clone and bought a new DirecTV-labeled "H10" HD receiver. I now get every single DTV station in south Florida perfectly. (One exception: it makes WPTV-DT look like 24fps progressive video, which is a seperate issue that I'll look into.) All for $299 at Best Buy.

I'm going to take my old E86 clone to Dave McKinnley at WPTV so he can see what he can do to groom his signal to make it work with E86es.

Originally posted by David McRoy
One exception: it makes WPTV-DT look like 24fps progressive video, which is a seperate issue that I'll look into.

I'm pretty sure that's not a receiver is, but at the station. I have it on my Dish 811 and I recall other members with other boxes having the same problem. It only is like that when WPTV is upconverting. Their HD is fine.

How's that for inter-market cooperation. Thanks so much David, there are a lot of people out there not getting WPTV due to this issue and they all owe you a big thanks.

Originally posted by bgall
I'm pretty sure that's not a receiver is, but at the station. I have it on my Dish 811 and I recall other members with other boxes having the same problem. It only is like that when WPTV is up-converting. Their HD is fine. I concur. I first started noticing this problem a couple of weeks ago. WPTV up-converts used to be flawless.

Can E86 users get WPTV now?

The reason I ask is because the black flashes are back on WPTV which leads me to believe they've changed one of their bug cycles again

Originally posted by bgall
Can E86 users get WPTV now?

The reason I ask is because the black flashes are back on WPTV which leads me to believe they've changed one of their bug cycles again

Yes, I've noticed the black flashes also on WPTV-DT's HD broadcasts lately as well. I bet they did change something; it was perfect for a while for me. In the past couple weeks, it's gone downhill again. I'm using the HR10-250 HD D*TiVo.

Originally posted by bsgoren
Yes, I've noticed the black flashes also on WPTV-DT's HD broadcasts lately as well. I bet they did change something; it was perfect for a while for me. In the past couple weeks, it's gone downhill again. I'm using the HR10-250 HD D*TiVo.

Do you guys really expect anything else from WPTVDT given their history of ineptness with HD?:D

Thanks a lot man :D

Because it seems they just shut down the antenna cold.

I've been cut off cold. I'm getting aboslutly nothing on WPTV right now!!!!

Edit: It's back now.

WPTV-DT

I noticed last night that there was a lot of static again in the audio portion. Sometimes the static was so loud it would almost cover "The Donald's" voice :eek: Something has definitely gone wrong again.

Yup, they deffinetly got bored at WPTV and decided to change their settings again.

Last night it was black flashes.

Tonight it's a really dirty signal with the signal bouncing around crazy

Finally someone carries the Marlins in HD tonight (ESPN2). Thanks to Adelphia people in Connecticut and Cleveland systems get to watch it while we can see it in SD on FSN. :o

Originally posted by Panth1
Finally someone carries the Marlins in HD tonight (ESPN2). Thanks to Adelphia people in Connecticut and Cleveland systems get to watch it while we can see it in SD on FSN. :o Did Adelphia carry this? The ESPN2 telecast was blacked out by DirecTV, and shown only on Fox sports channel.

Well, after Voom went under, I got ready to put my old D* dish back up and pull the D* HD reciever out of mothballs. Then, E* picked up 10 of the Voom chanels and I decided to go with E*. Just got it set up yesterday and all seems to be working well. Except, of course, 5-1.

From some other posts, I see that it is probably back to the "same old, same old" as before. And relative to the classic arguments of "need a newer receiver", I have the Dish 942 which is their newest. Every other Palm Beach DTV channel is coming in great.

I have the antenna on a rotor and have tried pretty much every angle. But I am mostly getting flashes of programming then nothing.

What has it been now- 2 years? Anyone heard what they've done or when (this time) they're saying it will be fixed? Or do we all need 2006 generation receivers?:rolleyes:

The signal bounces around between 70 and 80 on my Dish 811 receiver.

The signal is holding fine, but the stage they're at now is the black flash problem.

I see Adelphia finally enabled VOD here. Looks pretty cool and hopefully they will start offering movies in HD soon.

Only thing annoying is the new menu that comes up and I haven't found a way to get the channel guide with just one button yet.

WPBF will air tonight's Heat-Wizards game in HD from ABC.

Originally posted by CapeFish
WPBF will air tonight's Heat-Wizards game in HD from ABC.

It doesn't look like the game will be HD.

This is where I got the info: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=5624606

Damn ABC!

What happened to WPBF-DT tonight during Desperate Housewives? There was no sound and the picture crashed every 5 seconds. It figures that the one time I don't watch it and TiVo it instead then this happens. WPBF has been one of the good ones. :(

Originally posted by ElectricPickle
What happened to WPBF-DT tonight during Desperate Housewives? There was no sound and the picture crashed every 5 seconds. It figures that the one time I don't watch it and TiVo it instead then this happens. WPBF has been one of the good ones. :(

I hear you. I wanted to watch "Desperate Housewives" and then this happens.

I hope they show it again. It was a great show. I was really lucky since my TIVO is programmed to tape it on the SD channel and the Adelphia DVR does it in HD. When I started to watch it on the Adelphia DVR, my heart sank and then I remembered that it was on the TIVO. I lucked out. When I absolutely don't want to miss a show, I do it on both.

Originally posted by MVPinBoynton
I hope they show it again. It was a great show. I was really lucky since my TIVO is programmed to tape it on the SD channel and the Adelphia DVR does it in HD. When I started to watch it on the Adelphia DVR, my heart sank and then I remembered that it was on the TIVO. I lucked out. When I absolutely don't want to miss a show, I do it on both.

Good point. If there is anything that I need to TiVo from NBC (WPTV-DT) I always have used 2 tivos, one SD and one HD. WPBF-DT has always been so reliable that I never felt it necessary to duplicate recordings. I sent an email to WPBF about it. I doubt if I will get a response. I will download that episode from the Internet, burn it to DVD and watch it. Thank goodness for the Internet.

I'm intrigued ... can you tell me where to download the show from the internet ? I too missed it last night, and assume my HD recording will not work so I'd love to learn how to get it over the internet.

Thanks very much in advance !!

By the way, I checked and the show will be on again this Saturday at 10:00PM

Originally posted by crsanders
I'm intrigued ... can you tell me where to download the show from the internet ?

I sent you a PM.

ElectricPickle,
I would sure like to know that site also!

I'm an ex-Voomer and now have a Dish 942 receiver. I get all of the local HD channels except WPTV, channel 5. I'm using the same OTA antenna I was using with Voom, when WPTV used to be my strongest channel. WPTV tower is only 10 miles from me. All other station signals strengths are in the 80-95 range. WPTV is down in the 30-50 range.

Has anyone else had a problem with this? Any suggestions?

Originally posted by bgall
Yup, they deffinetly got bored at WPTV and decided to change their settings again.

Last night it was black flashes.

Tonight it's a really dirty signal with the signal bouncing around crazy

I wanted to let everyone know that I have info from Dave McKinley at WPTV that their transmitter has been operating at 1/2 power since mid-April. Parts are on order and should be at full power by 5/27/05.

Ever since I switched from Voom to Dish, I have been unable to lock onto the WPTV signal, even though I'm using the same OTA antenna as before.

Originally posted by mikecruzer
I wanted to let everyone know that I have info from Dave McKinley at WPTV that their transmitter has been operating at 1/2 power since mid-April. Parts are on order and should be at full power by 5/27/05. That's very interesting, I'm still getting a very strong signal on this station with an attic antenna. It doesn't seem likely that close-in reception difficulties people are experiencing are related to power output.

Signal seems the same to me now. Only had glitches 1 night. I spent time re-pointing my antenna and it's back to normal

Now that Adelphia has been sold do you think we will see any new HD content anytime soon. I know they set up the VOD which is pretty cool but how about CBS-HD before football season.

mikecruzer, same exact thing for me (formerly Voom, now 942, same antenna, crappy 5-1). 5-1 has pretty much always been the most problematic DTV channel in the area. For a long time they blamed it on "first generation boxes" in people's homes, and many other things. Our 942s though are a bit newer than "first generation" so how will they explain that?

If they follow the pattern of the past, one day, magically, you'll get a great signal again. It'll stay great for a week or two, and then it will return to this. The timeframes may change but the ultimate result seems to stay the same.

Hopefully, the new parts for their transmitter will solve the problem, like the service calls for the mysterious electrical arc, and the assorted other recurring theme excuses. After 2+ years of inconsistent signal (to say the least), it seems that they could finally flex their muscles and make whoever sold them the lemons swap it out.

Venting concluded. 2 things you might try. 1. Reaim your antenna (not necessarily so that it is best for their tower. Long ago, I got a few weeks of success by finding an angle that was not aiming at them and only worked well within a degree or two. 2. Try an attenuator and dial down the signal. I have had some success by dialing down the power. You can get one at Radio Shack for < $15 and it may help.

Are you having any luck locking any channels beyond WPB with the 942? With the Voom box, I could lock some channels from both Miami & Orlando, but the 942 seems to ONLY find the true locals.

Originally posted by clfnole
Now that Adelphia has been sold do you think we will see any new HD content anytime soon. I know they set up the VOD which is pretty cool but how about CBS-HD before football season.

Sooner than you think.

Originally posted by David McRoy
Sooner than you think.

Now that would be a nice early Christmas present. I'm crossing my fingers.

How about a nice Memorial Day, Father's Day or 4th of July present????

Memorial Day! That would be nice, but I don't want to get my hopes up to be able to watch CBSHD that soon. But with June 1 being right around the corner, that could be a good start date.

Dish 921 Exact same problem. All the other WPB signals are close to or over 100 signal strength. 5-1 starts out over 100 and immediately drops well below and drops out, then comes back the drops out, ya da ya da

It sure would be nice to get their HD signal.

Terry in W Lake Worth

I live in Margate and have both a north and south pointing antenna. I used to get WPTV well on eitherantenna. For the past several months, however, the signal dips wildly from about 118 to about 85 on my DISH 921 receiver. I still get it reliably on the north antenna even with this wild shifting of the signal. Wish they would get their act together. Seems strange that all of the non big network channels seem to work great, but big NBC doesn't seem to be able to get it straight.

Question, does anyone know how to get to the Adelphia
frequency, power, settings menu on the 8300hd box? I saw
the tech do it but missed which sequence of buttons he
pushed that displayed power settings, db loss etc
on the screen.

Thanks

Have any Adelphia HD users been watching ABC WPBF (on 701) lately? The picture seems to freazing every couple min or so. Pretty annoying, but still pretty nice to see this picture over the alternative they have been using for the NBA games. :)

That screen that shows the settings and freq, power levels for the 8300hd on Adelphia would be very helpful in many cases for diagnosing probs.

Anyone know how to get to it?

Thanks

I have an appointment for one of my customers tomorrow with Adelphia and some LG engineers in regards to a cablecard problem. I will see if I can get the info from the tech who comes out.

I noticed that 5-1 was down for some time today. Perhaps those "new parts" are finally being installed. For some foolish reason, I just clicked over there with some hope that it might be stable again. What was I thinking?

Maybe tomorrows/next weeks/next months new parts will fix the problem?

I happen to be talking to Dave McKinley from WPTV yesterday and he mentioned a variety of things that had happened (one tube cabinet down and they were getting some HV arcing) and they were in the middle of troubleshooting it. Then around 4:00 pm or so he told me they had found the problem, corrected it, and were again broadcasting at full power.

Didn't notice any difference here.

No black flashes, but the signal still bounces around more than the other stations

Didn't notice any difference here.

No black flashes, but the signal still bounces around more than the other stations

5-1 WPTV-DT looked good last night with its HD showing of Las Vegas; no black flashes or any other problems, but I did check the signal on my HD D*TiVo...still shows a much lower signal (about 68-70) on Tuner 1 while it showed a strong signal (88-90) on Tuner 2, and the signal strength was a bit "jumpy." I guess their signal still has a lot of multi-path issues, but it didn't seem to cause a problem (at least last night anyway). :)

BTW - WPTV-DT only local DTV broadcast which I have this "uneven" signal strength issue; i.e. a lower signal on Tuner 1 than Tuner 2. All the other WPB H/DTV broadcasts show an even signal strength on both tuners.

:( Keeping losing the signal tonight :(

Screwing up the finale of SVU :(

They increase the power and it causes more MP for me :(

My 5-1 is still a mess. On the 942, I am seeing fluctuations between about a 30 and about 50 (on a 100 scale). Only flashes of a picture.

I got it pretty good on the old Voom receiver, and I used to be able to get it some of the time on the D* reciever prior.

But this is the worst I've seen (er, I guess that's NOT seen) it in some time.

Perhaps the worst thing about it is the odd nature that 5-1 is the station having the biggest problem with the transition. I've been to their studios and they are very proud of being pioneers in upgrading their equipment to digital everything. Their analog broadcast is very sharp. I would guess that this same passion for digital should have translated to them being the local reference for pristine HD. But instead, they are simply the worst.

I just can't understand why they don't flex their muscles, make whoever sold them the faulty crap swap it out and get it done (right). Or, just toss the equipment, write it off, and buy the same stuff that any of the other players in WPB are using. I know there are big bucks in this latter option, but there are little revenues to be had selling commercials on a station that is hard to tune. Plus, it's a bigger waste of power if they are paying the electric bill to put out a signal that is so hard to get.

Someone asked for the code to get the status and info screen up on Sci Atlanta boxes. You have to go to the box, hold in the select button (the one in the center of the navigational star) until the mail light starts blinking. Then you use the page + and page - buttons from the remote to get to the different screens.

In addition to holding the box buttons, you can also hold down the Pause button on the remote for about 10 seconds till the mail light comes on.

Interesting note tonight. Since there is no local Marlins coverage tonight, ESPN is showing the marlins game on the SD channel while the Astros and Cubs are on ESPN-HD. One of these days, we will get the Marlins in HD. :mad:

WPTV's signal seems to be ok tonight, however I saw a couple of blackflashes

Since WPTV reported repairing the problem, I'm getting 88 out of 100 on my HR10-250's signal strength indicator, and it's very stable. No drop outs, audio in sync, and absolutely no problems. Since I'm 35 miles away (Stuart) and have my antenna pointed in the opposite direction to get the best of all stations (that's just where it ended up performing the best), I couldn't be more pleased.

Still waiting a response to my question. I wonder if this is for everybody or if it's just me. The pausing and pixellation got pretty bad last night while watching Lost and had to switch to SD. :( Alias was a bit better but even that was getting annoying. Hopefully they'll fix this problem soon for the NBA finals (if it isn't just me).

Lost was superb last night on Adelphia. No glitches that I noticed.

Thanks for the info

Lost was superb last night on Adelphia. No glitches that I noticed.

I watched "Lost" via Adelphia DVR. There were many points during the program where the picture froze for a brief period. Not really bad, but distracting.

As I write this, WPTV 5-1 is coming in fine but a couple of hours ago I had no signal whatsoever. My reading showed zero. By way of comparison, 25-1 which is 70 miles away from me usually reads 16 on my Hughes HTL-HD. Too weak for lock of course, but at least there is signal. Has anyone else seen this ? I'm in 33327 (Weston).

Tony

I'm also still having trouble with 5-1. For the last few weeks, I've been getting a reading hovering around 30 (on a 100 scale) spiking up to 50 for a second or two, and down to 0 for a second or two. I have a loaded system, with what is arguably the best type of UHF directional antenna (rated for 100 miles) available, on a rotor (capable of individual increments on a 360 degree scale), with a quality signal booster (that lets me pull in stations from Orlando and Miami from here), and a good attenuator to dial that boost up or down as needed.

But 5-1 is still failing to come in. I had better luck with the old Voom reciever. And I sometimes had 5-1 with the older D* reciever. But this brand new E* 942 just can't seem to hold that signal for more than a second or two.

I have seen some stuff online about needing to put in a DC voltage block on the coax antenna connection of the 942, but it seems strange that every other WPB DTV station is coming in just fine. However, that's been many people's story for at least 2 years.

I'll be trying the DC block option in the next few days, but why do I suspect that it won't make any difference.

I only get some hope from crsanders posting, since he is another 8-10 miles further out than me and is apparently pulling in the signal just fine.

I'm also still having trouble with 5-1. For the last few weeks, I've been getting a reading hovering around 30 (on a 100 scale) spiking up to 50 for a second or two, and down to 0 for a second or two. I have a loaded system, with what is arguably the best type of UHF directional antenna (rated for 100 miles) available, on a rotor (capable of individual increments on a 360 degree scale), with a quality signal booster (that lets me pull in stations from Orlando and Miami from here), and a good attenuator to dial that boost up or down as needed.

But 5-1 is still failing to come in. I had better luck with the old Voom reciever. And I sometimes had 5-1 with the older D* reciever. But this brand new E* 942 just can't seem to hold that signal for more than a second or two.

I have seen some stuff online about needing to put in a DC voltage block on the coax antenna connection of the 942, but it seems strange that every other WPB DTV station is coming in just fine. However, that's been many people's story for at least 2 years.

I'll be trying the DC block option in the next few days, but why do I suspect that it won't make any difference.

I only get some hope from crsanders posting, since he is another 8-10 miles further out than me and is apparently pulling in the signal just fine.

Whats your antenna height ?

At least 30 feet. I've never measured it to get the exacts, but I put it well above the peek of my roof to minimize risk of multipath associated with being too close to the house. I have ultra-high ceilings and the roof goes way up above them. I had to reinforce the pole at a couple of points because it is so long that it would "bounce" (bow) when there was average+ winds.

By the way, it is not fun to deal with during the hurricanes (as taking it down and putting it back up is a risky challenge every time), but the things we do for a few more DTV stations. :eek:

My point is that I went to a lot of trouble to maximize my chances of "local" DTV reception. I didn't do the "cheapest" option in any way and I was careful to work out what seemed to be optimal options in every way. EVERY local station (and some from Miami and Orlando) can be pulled in with my setup. But 5-1 is only a "some of the time" channel.

Unfortunately, 6-1 is not one of the Miami channels that I can pull in on a dependable basis, or I would just go to that one and forget about 5-1. In the winter, I can sometimes pull NBC 20-1 from Ft. Myers, but that is truly an exception event. Basically, I need 5-1 to fix their problems once and for all or I need to decide that there is nothing on NBC worth caring about. Going to the analog channel is an o.k. option- but that's pretty-much missing the point.

At least 30 feet. I've never measured it to get the exacts, but I put it well above the peek of my roof to minimize risk of multipath associated with being too close to the house. I have ultra-high ceilings and the roof goes way up above them. I had to reinforce the pole at a couple of points because it is so long that it would "bounce" (bow) when there was average+ winds.

By the way, it is not fun to deal with during the hurricanes (as taking it down and putting it back up is a risky challenge every time), but the things we do for a few more DTV stations. :eek:

My point is that I went to a lot of trouble to maximize my chances of "local" DTV reception. I didn't do the "cheapest" option in any way and I was careful to work out what seemed to be optimal options in every way. EVERY local station (and some from Miami and Orlando) can be pulled in with my setup. But 5-1 is only a "some of the time" channel.

Unfortunately, 6-1 is not one of the Miami channels that I can pull in on a dependable basis, or I would just go to that one and forget about 5-1. In the winter, I can sometimes pull NBC 20-1 from Ft. Myers, but that is truly an exception event. Basically, I need 5-1 to fix their problems once and for all or I need to decide that there is nothing on NBC worth caring about. Going to the analog channel is an o.k. option- but that's pretty-much missing the point.


Just to add to the thread, I lost 5-1 about 6pm tonight and monitored the signal strength for about 60 seconds. I saw the same as you did : a periodic shift from zero up to just below lock and falling away again.

If anyone from WPTV reads this forum, please comment.

Tony

At least 30 feet. I've never measured it to get the exacts, but I put it well above the peek of my roof to minimize risk of multipath associated with being too close to the house. I have ultra-high ceilings and the roof goes way up above them. I had to reinforce the pole at a couple of points because it is so long that it would "bounce" (bow) when there was average+ winds.

By the way, it is not fun to deal with during the hurricanes (as taking it down and putting it back up is a risky challenge every time), but the things we do for a few more DTV stations. :eek:

My point is that I went to a lot of trouble to maximize my chances of "local" DTV reception. I didn't do the "cheapest" option in any way and I was careful to work out what seemed to be optimal options in every way. EVERY local station (and some from Miami and Orlando) can be pulled in with my setup. But 5-1 is only a "some of the time" channel.

Unfortunately, 6-1 is not one of the Miami channels that I can pull in on a dependable basis, or I would just go to that one and forget about 5-1. In the winter, I can sometimes pull NBC 20-1 from Ft. Myers, but that is truly an exception event. Basically, I need 5-1 to fix their problems once and for all or I need to decide that there is nothing on NBC worth caring about. Going to the analog channel is an o.k. option- but that's pretty-much missing the point.


Just wondering. I haven't had time to play with distant stations yet. I did move my OTA antena to the top of Ham tower and it's over 70' now. I'll have to check out the Orlando stations. I have my Voom receiver and a Sony HD200 I get evrything fine, even 25.1. I'm just south of the Sawgrass between 441 and university.

That's a long shot to Orlando from down there. I'm just south of Stuart in Martin County. At 70 feet, you might do better to aim west and go for Ft. Myers stations. I can get a few of them on cold, clear nights. I've wondered how people down your way would do if they aimed across the state and went for those. Good luck on both.

Relative to 5-1 tonight, I've checked several times- same old, same old.

Just to add to the thread, I lost 5-1 about 6pm tonight and monitored the signal strength for about 60 seconds. I saw the same as you did : a periodic shift from zero up to just below lock and falling away again.

If anyone from WPTV reads this forum, please comment.

Tony
I just don't experience the problems that many do with 5.1. I watched the French Open yesterday for an hour or so, had perfect reception. My signal is strong an steady using an attic Yagi. Apparently the HD-200 is not affected by whatever effects some other receivers.

Yes, that seems to be a common issue. Some boxes seem to work better than others. This adds fuel to 5-1s early days excuse of users having to upgrade their boxes. But, since DTV has standards, I translate that into meaning they just aren't quite hitting the standard, and some boxes are better at compensating than others.

I would get 5-1 for weeks at a time on my old Voom & D* boxes. Then, it would slip back into the signal fluctuation problems and pixelation misery. About that time someone would post something that goes something like: "Spoke to 5-1 engineer and he said they are going to put in a new..." or "hurricane damage" or "electrical arc" or <fill in your favorites>.

If all the other stations were going through all of these problems/parts upgrades/etc, I think it would be more palatable. If some HD boxes could not tune all of the other stations, that would point to a problem truly nailing down a "standard". But, my brand new E* 942 locks everyone else just fine. Nice steady signals, minimal pixelation, audio in synch, etc.

For me, 5-1 tends to regularly be on the wrong end of the "other side of the story"

Well, I've been getting WPTV-DT just fine for a few weeks now...no jerky progressive video, either. Using a new DirecTV H-10 receiver. I dropped off my old E86 clone for Dave to play with a few weeks ago.

I used to get WPTV 5-1 just fine even if the signal did fluctuate wildly from about 65 to 110. However for the past couple of weeks I get practically nothing. Signal jumps from about 30 to about 55 and won't lock in. Has WPTV lowered their power?? I get everything else just fine and get WPBF and WTVX intermittently even though their towers are miles further north. In the past, I have usually received WPTV fine even when others seem to be having trouble. I know it sounds like multipath, but reorienting the the antenna does nothing.

Tony

Has anyone else noticed white vertical lines in the picture on WPECDT? I was watching the golf yesterday on 12-1 which unfortunately was being broadcast only in analog and it looked like it was raining. I noticed this morning while watching WPEC (9) via Adelphia cable the same vertical white lines are present. I'm not sure whether it's a network or local problem.

Is Fox 29-1 off the air?

Couldn't Get it last night. Dead Zero, so I'd say yes

Adelphia 703 (FOX-HD) is dead. Called Adelphia and they said they were having technical problems and would likely be off the air for at least a week. Anyone know whats happening?

An email reply we received Monday from 29's chief engineer says "We had a tube failure. If all goes well we should be back in a few days".

Thanks! Now i need to figure out why I did not receive notification of responses to my question.

29-1 is back on the air.

Thanks Mike!

what's up with this 29-2 channel? has music videos on it right now

It's had it for a while.

It's The Tube Network, a really great FTA music channel

What is the latest on WPEC appearing on cable up here on the
Treasure coast?

I used to get WPTV 5-1 just fine even if the signal did fluctuate wildly from about 65 to 110. However for the past couple of weeks I get practically nothing. Signal jumps from about 30 to about 55 and won't lock in. Has WPTV lowered their power?? I get everything else just fine and get WPBF and WTVX intermittently even though their towers are miles further north. In the past, I have usually received WPTV fine even when others seem to be having trouble. I know it sounds like multipath, but reorienting the the antenna does nothing.

Tony

I just tried WPTV last night and was surprised that I now get a rock solid signal of a little over 80 and the channel locks in beautifully. Last week, I called the station and was assured that there was no problem at their end and that they were at full power. Throughout the two years this station has been on the air, I was able to receive it with DISH 6000, 811 and 921 receivers even though many people were having problems with other receivers. When I got the 942 (a great receiver by the way) WPTV came in for a few days and I then started experiencing problems as reported in my above quote. I suggest you all with DISH 942 receivers try WPTV again. Don't know what they fixed, but I hope it stays this way, but with WPTV, I'm not holding my breath.

Tony

Strange that I didn't change any hardware or anything related to the hardware. And the latest software update came several days ago, after which 5-1 was unchanged (.5 seconds of picture and then nothing).

But suddenly, it is coming in. The signal strength gauge is floating at about 80 (up from hanging around at about 35). My signal still fluctates about 5-7 points down from 80 (as opposed to about 15 points up and down when 35 was the "norm".

So, clearly, 5-1 has done something (maybe right this time). I too have high hopes it will last. But based on the past, it will probably go about 2-4 weeks and then something will come undone (and we'll need to "update our boxes", or just "surrender to our multipath problems", or "wait while a part comes in", etc.).

At least we can enjoy it while it lasts!

When did you notice a change? Last night?

Because I kept getting dropouts about every 20 seconds on Thursday night and my signal still was at 80 droping down to 70 and back up

Update!!! :) :)

You guys are right!!!

WPTV is holding nicey at 80 for me as well, no more of this droping down 10 points often, sweet!

So, any chance that we can finally rule out our Xth-generation equipment, our personal multipath problems and any of the other things that simply must be our equipment because some other people can get the channel with a stable signal?

Should I hold any hope that they have finally fixed it once and for all?

Well my E86 and DST-3000 both are picking up 5-1 perfectly now along with my HTL-HD and HD Tivo. So they must have fixed something on thier end as I have not altered my configs in months.

Well, Well, Well. Will miracles never cease! WPTVDT (5-1) is once again functioning on my E86. Not bad - it only took them since last September to fix it, Again!

Well, Well, Well. Will miracles never cease! WPTVDT (5-1) is once again functioning on my E86. Not bad - it only took them since last September to fix it, Again!


The parts were on backorder. :p :p :p ;)

Who's gonna deliver WPTV their certificate for finally bringing their DTV signal on air at standards on par with the rest of the broadcasters :D

Let's wait a month or two before we start printing out certificates. ;)

After reading up here, I dared try WPTV a couple nights ago for the first time in months. I had 4 blackout flashes in a half hour, much better than before, but 6-1 still has none, so I went back to them.

I have a question I hope can be answered here. I have an HDTV with tuner. I plug my cable into the television and am able to pickup NBC, ABC, FOX in HD. No CBS, UPN, WB, PBS. If I were to hookup via set top antenna, I get all of them. Problem is they are very sensitive to movement and direction. My provider is Adelphia. Are they not offering all locals in HD?

I am considering installing an attic antenna, but want to make sure Im not missing something with the service I currently have.

Thanks

My provider is Adelphia. Are they not offering all locals in HD?

Thanks

They are still negotiating to carry the rest of the locals. For example, lawyers from both sides are currently looking at the tentative agreements between Adelphia and WPEC. IMO, they will probably eventually carry all of the stations you mentioned.

Can anyone explain why Adelphia can't get all the locals in HD when they already carry the same stations in SD?

I am considering installing an attic antenna, but want to make sure Im not missing something with the service I currently have.

Thanks

If you cancel Adelphia, you would miss out on Discovery HD, HDNET, INHD and several others cable HD channels that aren't available over the air. To me, these channels are the best ones going for a great HD experience.

If you cancel Adelphia, you would miss out on Discovery HD, HDNET, INHD and several others cable HD channels that aren't available over the air. To me, these channels are the best ones going for a great HD experience.

I dont get these anyway. A box is needed. I get the channels I mentioned by plugging directly to the connection on my wall. My internal HD tuner picks up the signal.

Can anyone explain why Adelphia can't get all the locals in HD when they already carry the same stations in SD?

Separate contracts for the analog vs. digital signals.

Adelphia Cable and WPEC have reached carriage agreement for Adelphia to carry WPEC-DT on Channel 702. WPEC management says the ball is now in Adelphia's court, so they are free to throw the switch at any time.

Awesome news Dave. Thanks so much for sharing.
Mike

Now it's time of all of us Adelphia customers to call and tell them to flip the switch. ASAP. With enough calls we should hopefully get something before football season rolls around. ;)

An email reply we received Monday from 29's chief engineer says "We had a tube failure. If all goes well we should be back in a few days".

No biggy, we're just off the air for a few days.... WSVN's HD is out for a week or so due another failed part. It sounds like these HD/DT stations are being run like a school project. I guess hot-sparing isn't cost effective yet.

Tried to watch Cold Case last night but 12's HD signal was very choppy. Anyone else have the same problem?

I have a couple of questions for the forum members that live in Florida. My wife and I are looking for good places to consider for retirement in FL. What's your general opinion of the Vero Beach area as a place to live and if any forum members live there what's the HD reception situation for over the air and also what HD is carried on the cable TV system?

Ron Jones
www.dtvmax.com

I have a couple of questions for the forum members that live in Florida. My wife and I are looking for good places to consider for retirement in FL. What's your general opinion of the Vero Beach area as a place to live and if any forum members live there what's the HD reception situation for over the air and also what HD is carried on the cable TV system?

Ron Jones
www.dtvmax.com
I believe Vero is primarily served by Orlando TV stations, you might want to check that thread.

Nope, Vero Beach is part of the West Palm Beach ADI, but you can probably get Orlando stations from there, too.

Can someone tell me where we in the West Palm area fit into the MPEG 2 to MPEG 4 conversion? I now have an SD box feeding a stand alone (series 2) TiVo with lifetime programing going through S-video, and a Sony HD 200 going through component to a high def TV. I'm looking to get the HD TiVo, which would mean that I would have to get rid of both boxes and the SD TiVo, lose the lifetime programing, and pay the monthly programing fee on the HD TiVo. Before I do this, I would like to know where we stand on the conversion to MPEG 4.

Can someone tell me where we in the West Palm area fit into the MPEG 2 to MPEG 4 conversion? I now have an SD box feeding a stand alone (series 2) TiVo with lifetime programing going through S-video, and a Sony HD 200 going through component to a high def TV. I'm looking to get the HD TiVo, which would mean that I would have to get rid of both boxes and the SD TiVo, lose the lifetime programing, and pay the monthly programing fee on the HD TiVo. Before I do this, I would like to know where we stand on the conversion to MPEG 4.

We've had our HR10-250 HD D*TiVo since Jan., '05 and we LOVE IT! We sold our Sony HD-200 D*TV receiver and began using the HD TiVo and have never looked back!!! :p If you go to http://www.tivocommunity.com (and look under the HD TiVo section), you'll find a plethora of info in regards to the D*TV's upcoming conversion from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4. From what I've read there, it appears as if the conversion to the MPEG-4 system will eventually make the current MPEG-2 system obsolete and ALL current MPEG-2 equipment (whether HD D*TiVo or regular HD D*TV receivers) will not work with the new MPEG-4 system. This is supposed to happen sometime by the end of this year or early '06. However, there's already been delays in the new sats going up.

SO, supposedly D*TV will be swapping everyone out with new MPEG-4 compatible equipment for little or no cost. It's been said that those of us who spent a pretty penny on the HR10-250 will receive D*TV's new HD DVR (MPEG-4) for little or no cost when the time comes. Of course, we will still be able to receive our HD/DTV OTA locals with the new box. As far as getting the HD locals via the the MPEG-4 system (e.g. D*TV HD locals), I haven't heard where the WPB local market stands in line for this. I believe the Tampa area market is on the list for the initial HD locals rollout with the new MPEG-4 system, but it could be a very long time before WPB is switched over.

We love our HD D*TiVo unit and service so much that whatever happens...happens, but until then, we won't worry about it and we'll just keep enjoying our HD D*TiVo!!!! :D

We've had our HR10-250 HD D*TiVo since Jan., '05 and we LOVE IT!
I understand this unit can receive OTA digital, but not analog. Is this correct?

Thanks, Joel

After a couple of weeks, I am still getting a relatively stable 5-1 signal. Now I'm just looking for flying pigs, hell freezing over, etc. :)

Wouldn't it be great if it would actually last more than another week or two? I mean, it's kind of rough to finally get some channel stability right at the beginning of rerun season. I hope it lasts.

I understand this unit can receive OTA digital, but not analog. Is this correct?

Thanks, Joel

That is correct, the HR10-250 has no built in NTSC tuner. I love mine and have had it Since May/June of 04.

A couple of questions about Adelphia cable TV:

- Do they replicate the basic service tier SD analog channels on their digital service (for PVR's, etc.)?

- If they do, can you receive both basic cable (i.e., not HBO, etc.) SD and HD digital channels with a QAM tuner?

Thanks, acesk8er

No.

You can only receiver the digital channels that they have unscrambled with a QAM tuner. For the others you'll need a TV set with a cable card slot if you don't want a STB

I have the digital service hooked up to the Adelphia HD DVR and an SD Tivo. I also have direct connections into my HD and SD TV's. All of the inputs work fine. The analog SD, Digital SD and HD channels are in different number groups.

Thanks for the replies. Are Adelphia's basic tier analog channels (for example, CNN) also transmitted in digital QAM? And how is the PQ on their SD digital service as compared with DirecTV or DishNetwork? I just had their absolutely cr@ppy analog service hooked up (it's "free" - part of the condo maintenance charge...) and I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get a QAM tuner. I would be happy with replicated basic cable analog SD channels with MUCH better PQ + HD local OTA's. --acesk8er

Anybody else having problems with WPTV? I watched Will & Grace last night just fine turned back on to watch ER and the signal was gone. I still have not been able to get it back. i would hate not to be able to watch the race tomorrow night in HD.

Thanks for the replies. Are Adelphia's basic tier analog channels (for example, CNN) also transmitted in digital QAM? And how is the PQ on their SD digital service as compared with DirecTV or DishNetwork? I just had their absolutely cr@ppy analog service hooked up (it's "free" - part of the condo maintenance charge...) and I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get a QAM tuner. I would be happy with replicated basic cable analog SD channels with MUCH better PQ + HD local OTA's. --acesk8er

They don't replicate the analog channels in digital. And the adelphia digital channels that I saw didn't look much better than sat digitals.

If you already had a way to tune QAM through your TV or something I'd suggest you just to try and pick up the local HD channels. But if not just rent an adelphia box for the $7.95 a month since you're getting the analog channels free right now anyways. And If you want to get HDNet,Movies,INHD,ESPNHD as well you can add the HD pack for I think $5

I wonder why Adelphia hasn't flipped the switch on CBS HD yet. We are sure ready for it to happen.

I wonder why Adelphia hasn't flipped the switch on CBS HD yet. We are sure ready for it to happen.
They just did, some one was listening. ;)

Awesome! :) I can't wait to get home to check it out. Thanks for the info.

Yep.. it's there. No guide data yet though... at least for me.

For CBS, we will have to be patient a little longer to see how good the HD is on Adelphia. There are no CBS shows in HD tonight. But on Wednesday, there are 3.

OK, now that that behind us, what stations should be the next challenge?

Yeah, Ad-hell-phia finally has the 4 major nets in HD

So now there's only the other 2 left in our market.

Comcast has a deal signed for all O&O UPN stations, that would include WTVX, but Comcast does not own this adelphia system yet...

OK, now that that behind us, what stations should be the next challenge?

PBS would be nice.

Quick question guys. Anyone who please help me, please reply.....

I have been getting most of the WPB stations (5,12,25,34.1) just fine and the Miami 4 and 6.1's relatively fine as well. Then, I extended the wire I was using cause I moved the TV and put my own connectors on it and it seems that signal is very choppy at best on the WPB stations and the 2 Miami's I got before are pretty much non existant. Could it be my connections? Or is there a problem with the towers? Any help would be much appreciated.

I would like to see Adelphia add Cinemax HD and ESPN HD, as they already have contracts for them. Many other markets already have these channels so I can't for the life of me figure out why we still don't.

TNT-HD would also be a nice treat for the NBA.

I would like to see Adelphia add Cinemax HD and ESPN HD, as they already have contracts for them. Many other markets already have these channels so I can't for the life of me figure out why we still don't.

TNT-HD would also be a nice treat for the NBA.

Hmm.. Adelphia already has ESPNHD here (Palm City) and I know it is in Jupiter. I'm surprised it's not in your lineup. Useless channel though. They seem to have less HD content than any other channel...

TNT-HD would be nice....

He meant ESPN2-HD

Yeah, my bad I mean't ESPN2-HD. Would be nice in time for football season. We would have all of pro covered with the major networks and all of college with ESPN and ESPN2.

Nice to dream but maybe we'll be suprised.

It sure has been nice having CBS on Adlephia and NBC has been working quite well too. Happiness is not having anything to complain to Adelphia about. :)

Speaking of Adelphia complaints...I am having an interesting technical problem with VOD.

I have an SA8300HD and the VOD has never worked from day one. There has been a parade of Adelphia techs trying to figure out the problem. It appears that the box to receive VOD must be in a 2-way mode. To do this the box has to get an IP address from the server when it boots up. Looking in the service menues it is getting an unavailabe message for the IP and sub net.

The signal is coming in at -11db per the service menu. Today we tried to connect with a direct cable and the signal was -4db but the box still could not get an IP address. They have checked the rate codes and have tried to send a hit to the box.

Has anyone out there had a similar problem?
What was done to fix it?

Why can't I find a WB channel in the West Palm Beach locals package from Dish?

Thanks - Terry

West Palm Beach doesn't have their own WB :(

The WB programming airs on WTVX on Channel 34 after 10PM and on the weekends...

And since it's delayed there's no HD :(

I noticed that WPTV is broadcasting at 480i x 544 today. Wonder what they are up to.

Well yesterday all that was on the digital channel was a black screen so something broke again, so much for their streak they had ;)

TLTurbo, rotate your antenna southward and go for WB 39 (I believe it's digital channel 19). That's a dedicated WB station that I have historically been able to pull in up here in Hobe Sound. Both the D* & Voom boxes were able to lock it some of the time.

The Dish 942 seems to only care about the true WPB digital stations as I can't get any signal reads for anything beyond WPB. But I hear that is a software issue to be addressed more than a limitation in the hardware.

Is Fox 29-1 off the air for any of you?

Working just fine here

-In Palm Beach Gardens

-Using a Dish 811 Receiver

-Silver Sensor Antenna

It tanked for me on Adelphia @ ~7:30.

It was back on by the time I finished typing in my question. Thanks for the replies. BGall I have the 811 also. I like dish also but I really miss my Sony HD 300 I used with directv.

Now WPEC 12-1 and 12-2 are off?

Yeah WPEC is still having problems as I type this.

I'm getting a signal, but there's nothing but a black screen

Adelphia swapped ESPN HD and Discovery HD channel numbers and added NFL Network HD on 768. That leaves channel 767 for ESPN2 HD. :cool:

Is the NFL Net HD a 24/7 channel now, ie is there something actually being shown on it?

i sure hope ESPN2-HD gets added to our market soon, that would be really sweet!!!

WPEC Digital is still broadcasting a black signal tonight.

David are you here and do you know what's up?

WPEC-DT was fine for me during Big Brother. What time were you experiencing problems?

WPEC Digital is still broadcasting a black signal tonight.

David are you here and do you know what's up?


Yep, still checking the thread every day, guys. I'll look into this...

WPEC-DT was fine for me during Big Brother. What time were you experiencing problems?

The 2 times I checked was when dolphan mentioned it and on Monday for CSI Miami.

I didn't check yesterday, maybe it's fixed

It's not fixed for me. Good signal but only a black screen. 12-1 and 12-2.

Yup both channels are black for me as well also

They are fine on Adelphia.

With my ATI HDTV Wonder 12-1 is black, but with the LG (brandsmart bought) standalone tuner works fine.

25-1 signal OTA with an antenna is very low today.

Is the LG analog(12) or digital(12-1 & 12-2)? My analog is fine.

The LG is digital 12-1, 12-2 are ok. But not on the ATI Wonder, just a black screen.

I tried a local channel rescan to no avail. Still a black screen with good signal strength.

This is strange. We're not seeing problems on any of our receivers here and we haven't changed anything. I have notified Engineering.

For those of you with black on 12-1 and 12-2, which receiver are you using?

Both 12.1 & 12.2 are fine here with a Sony HD200.

Hope this helps,
sfin54

I am using a Dish 811 receiver same as BGall I believe.

Both my Sylvania SRZ3000 and MyHD-120 had trouble receiving a picture from WPEC since Monday. The Sylvania said there was no signal on channel 13 and the MyHD 120 showed a signal but could not decode a picture or lock onto a resolution.

But as of today, they both can receive the channel.

Maybe the WPTV digital virus has been dormant and tried to find a new victim this past week. :p

I am using a Dish 811 receiver same as BGall I believe.

Correct.

This is strange. We're not seeing problems on any of our receivers here and we haven't changed anything.

Maybe we need a pest control service to track down the gremlins then :)

Bgall we are back on! 12-1 & 12-2.

Ok I'll check tonight.

My screen went black again now. I have a good signal still just no picture.

12-1 and 12-2 working on the ATI HDTV Wonder again.

They're working on my 811 again as well

Mine as well.

This station has had audio synch problems for the last few days. Am I the only one who noticed?

Haven't noticed any sync problems with 42. Edit: Just checked and do see a little on the main channel.

I saw a commercial before the baseball game today that said The Tube was now on cable channel 183. Not showing up for me, anyone else? Maybe it will be added this week.

Joel,

I noticed the synch issue also on 42-1.

Direct Tv has schedule the software up date for east coast customers for tonight the west coast has already been updated now its our turn. This update fixes the hdmi problem with the h10 stb's. Im keeping my fingers crossed. My to do list says that it is scheduled for 3:54 am.

D* update was successful and the HDMI problem appears to be fixed so far.

Second i live in lake worth and i was wondering if anyone could recomend a ota antenna that would receive both south- south west channels and northwest channels (ie 5,12, 25, 34 etc.)

I live in Lake Worth also. I am using the cheap $25 Radio Shack UHF antenna. Here is the catalog number 15-2160. I have it hooked up to a regular tv (analog) and my Dish HD receiver. I get every station you listed loud and clear. I point it Northwest.

I live in Lake Worth also. I am using the cheap $25 Radio Shack UHF antenna. Here is the catalog number 15-2160. I have it hooked up to a regular tv (analog) and my Dish HD receiver. I get every station you listed loud and clear. I point it Northwest.

How do you suppose you get channels 5 and 12 with that antenna since it's a UHF antenna targeting channels 14 through 69? Do you have another antenna as well?

From the Radioshack.com site:

40" Boom Length, 17 Elements Outdoor Antenna for UHF-Only (Channels 14-69)

The "digital" channels start at 13 and go up in our area. The "analog" signal of 5 and 12 is strong enough that this antenna works for that as well. When Radio shack lists the antenna as uhf it does not mean it won't pick up vhf it just is not specifically designed for that and would have much lower gain in that (vhf) area.

The "digital" channels start at 13 and go up in our area. The "analog" signal of 5 and 12 is strong enough that this antenna works for that as well. When Radio shack lists the antenna as uhf it does not mean it won't pick up vhf it just is not specifically designed for that and would have much lower gain in that (vhf) area.

The digital channels in our area start at 5.1 as far as I know. I get 5.1, 12.1, 12.2 before getting to the traditional UHF digital channels. Are you saying those are not digital? Most areas of the country have all the digital channels in the UHF band, but we are different :rolleyes:

Assuming you get 5.1 and 12.1/2, what kind of signal strength are you recieving them at and what reciever are you using? I am looking into antennas myself and would love it if a UHF antenna would also get me the VHF stuff since we are so close to the sources.

Roger,

5-1 is actually digital channel 55 and 12-1 is digital channel 13. Go to antennaweb.org and punch in your zip code and you will begin to understand. Digital(HD) channels are completely different from analog channels. That website shows both and the actual channel it broadcasts on.

Roger,

5-1 is actually digital channel 55 and 12-1 is digital channel 13. Go to antennaweb.org and punch in your zip code and you will begin to understand. Digital(HD) channels are completely different from analog channels. That website shows both and the actual channel it broadcasts on.

Yikes, I (was) aware of that, just been so long since I've investigated that it slipped away.

Anyway, the only digital I am having trouble with is 25.1 (digital 16), how are you receiving that channel with your antenna? I only care about the digital stations for OTA stuff and want the best antenna for the Lake Worth area that I can put in my attic (currently a Terk TV55 which is marginal at best).

I get 5.x, 12.x, 29.x, 42.x, and 67.x just fine, but 25.1 does not lock for me....

I get 25- and 34-1 with a signal of over 95 on my Dish 811 receiver. My antenna is outside on a pole though. Check out this link and go to the db 4 or 8 it is specified as used in attics. http://www.antennasdirect.com/DB4_HDTV_antenna.html. You could also just try the RS antenna and return if it does not work. There is no assembly it just unfolds.

Thanks!

I got the link from pbcken. He is the one to thank. Good luck.

Roger
I actually followed Dolphan lead and went ahead and bought the radio shack anntenna and placed it on the roof pointed somewhat west northwest. The anntenna picks up digital channel 5/55, 12/13 25/16 34/? 67\1-4, 42\1-3, 29\1-2 all with a good signal of at least 80%. I also made sure i had new RG6 cable with gold compression connectors. This will get me by till D* gets on the ball and gets HD Locals on the Sat. Good Luck

pbcken

I am glad it worked out for you. I know a Directv and Dish installer and this is the antenna he uses for all of Palm Beach. Hard to beat for $25. My brother installed one on his house in West Broward and it worked for Miami stations also.

Roger
I actually followed Dolphan lead and went ahead and bought the radio shack anntenna and placed it on the roof pointed somewhat west northwest. The anntenna picks up digital channel 5/55, 12/13 25/16 34/? 67\1-4, 42\1-3, 29\1-2 all with a good signal of at least 80%. I also made sure i had new RG6 cable with gold compression connectors. This will get me by till D* gets on the ball and gets HD Locals on the Sat. Good Luck

Thanks for the info. I think the first thing I will try is re-pointing my existing antenna to the NW. It is now pointed directly North. If that works, great. If not, off to Radio Shack. The only digital I don't get is 16 (25.1), if I can pull that one, I'm good to go...

Thank you both (pbcken and dolphan)!

The "digital" channels start at 13 and go up in our area. The "analog" signal of 5 and 12 is strong enough that this antenna works for that as well. When Radio shack lists the antenna as uhf it does not mean it won't pick up vhf it just is not specifically designed for that and would have much lower gain in that (vhf) area.


One clarification point, the digital nature of channel has nothing to do with UHF verses VHF. There are several VHF digital channels around the country and in our backyard (WSVN-DT is broadcast on channel 8 and WPLG-DT is broadcast on channel 9) Based on your response you made it seem as if UHF meant digital. I know that is not what you meant but I didn't want others reading this board to get the wrong idea.

One clarification point, the digital nature of channel has nothing to do with UHF verses VHF. There are several VHF digital channels around the country and in our backyard (WSVN-DT is broadcast on channel 8 and WPLG-DT is broadcast on channel 9) Based on your response you made it seem as if UHF meant digital. I know that is not what you meant but I didn't want others reading this board to get the wrong idea.


Thanks Ansek!

Roger, How did the antenna work out?

Thanks Ansek!

Roger, How did the antenna work out?

Well, I went into the attic and altered the direction the Terk points to NW. Now 25.1 will lock some of the time, but not for very long. Next step will be to try the Radio Shack antenna.

I'll post back my results here. BTW, the two stations Ansek pointed out that are VHF are in Miami and I can not receive them without an external (and probably very high) antenna anyway. So, a UHF only antenna will work fine for what I am shooting for.

I rotated my off air antenna from NE to NW and now get pretty decent signal strength on all INCLUDING 5-1 on my Dish system, BUT FOX will not stay locked. Also, I know there is no WB N of Lake Worth so can I get a cheap attic antenna and point it S to WB39 and if so, can I just use a splitter to combine that signal with the regular off air?

Terry

I just saw a commercial on the Fins game showing a new station WB 15. Sounds like you can wait on the antenna and splitter.

Yes, it's another Viacom owned station. The same folks that own UPN34 (which is the station the fins game is on)

There was a post several pages back from David about it

Yes, it's another Viacom owned station. The same folks that own UPN34 (which is the station the fins game is on)

There was a post several pages back from David about it


I could not find it. Can you give us the details you know Bgall?

here's the post: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5416339&&#post5416339

WTCN 15 (soon to be the WB Affiliate) already exists and has been around for a while. What changed is that they were recently purchased by Viacom and since Viacom already owns UPN34 in our market that currently also shows WB programming, they will just be shifting that programming over to WTCN.

Only couple of issues are that last time I checked WTCN is only a low-power analog station and they currently do not have a digital signal.

here's there website: www.wtcn.com

I rotated my off air antenna from NE to NW and now get pretty decent signal strength on all INCLUDING 5-1 on my Dish system, BUT FOX will not stay locked. Also, I know there is no WB N of Lake Worth so can I get a cheap attic antenna and point it S to WB39 and if so, can I just use a splitter to combine that signal with the regular off air?

Terry


Yes, this is similar to what I am doing to get both WPB and MIA stations. I have two antennas in my attic one pointed north the other pointed south. They both go into a
Terk Splitter/Combiner and then they go into a CM7777 preamplifier and then to my antenna distribution system. They key is to use antennas with a high front to back ratio or you will create multipathing and cancel out each other.


Believe it or not I use a Silver Senor and a Radio Shack 15-2160.

Bgall, Put on TNTHD the surround sound today is out of control.

Ansek, Did you mean 15-2160? I could not find 21-2160 on the radio Shack web site.

Bgall, Put on TNTHD the surround sound today is out of control.

Ansek, Did you mean 15-2160? I could not find 21-2160 on the radio Shack web site.
Yes, 15-2160. Darn typo's.

Ansek, I figured it was a typo. Keep the info coming though, you help everyone myself included.

Hi, I just called WTCN and asked about a digital signal. The reply was something close to "come September, when the switchover is complete, we might be doing that. But I can't verify that at this time."

While there is enough disclaimer in there to make me think we might be seeing some flying pigs first, the maximum optimist might interpret at least a possibility of a local WB DTV channel sooner than we might expect.

Does anyone have any info about towers they might use? Any clues that might lead anyone to think they could broadcast digital sooner than later?

If they own Channel 34 that would seem the logical tower to use. Can two stations be on one tower?

Steve Ellis at WPLG in Miami posted this i the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, FL thread:

"A warning everyone...we received this today from ABC:

August 15, 2005

Attention HDTV Affiliates – No HDTV Feed 8/23/05 to 8/26/05

ABC will be upgrading its HDTV release facility including a replacement of the HD router. In order to accomplish this work in a timely manner, a four (4) day shutdown of the HD release facility will be required.

Accordingly, beginning Tuesday 8/23/2005 and continuing through Friday 8/26/2005, ABC will not offer an HDTV feed for either ECM or PT feeds. In addition, an upconverted SD feed will not be transmitted either. No HDTV transmission will take place in prime time, because doing so requires the use of the HDTV router and the release facility. During this time, stations are urged to upconvert the normal network SD feed, as many do now for non-primetime network and for local programming.

HDTV test feeds during the day will take place, as they can be accomplished without the use of the HDTV router or release facility.



So please everyone, have mercy!

Steve Ellis
WPLG/WPLG-DT"

Steve Ellis at WPLG in Miami posted this i the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, FL thread:

"A warning everyone...we received this today from ABC:


Thanks for the info and kudos to WPLG. It's refreshing to observe a communications business communicate. Many stations conveniently hide digital transmission irregularities.

I've got a D* HD receiver- Zenith 1080- that I'm ready to sell. It has component and an RGB jack (for HD out) and a very sensitive local tuner for over the air channels (at times I've been able to lock stations from upwards of 100 miles away). Nothing wrong with it at all (original box, instructions, remote, etc.)- just sitting on a shelf since i switched to Voom, then E*. I've also got the 3lnb dish but you would need to buy a mounting pole if you don't already have one. If you are not too far away, i'll help you install it if you like.

If anyone needs a great quality D* box, PM or email me at: Darryl@BigInnovations.com

Getting nada on 12-1. 12-2 is in and out. All the rest are ok. Anyone else?

Getting nada on 12-1. 12-2 is in and out. All the rest are ok. Anyone else?I am getting both just fine right now.

FIXED! It took 2-3 weeks, this problem was never acknowledged by the station.

I have a problem.... Here are the stations I'd like to get:
Station Channel Miles Frequency
WPTV-DT 5.1 NBC WEST PALM BEACH FL 144° 7.8 55
WPBF-DT 25.1 ABC WEST PALM BEACH FL 354° 31.5 16 - NEED FOR FOOTBALL, ITS THE FURTHEST ONE!
WPEC-DT 12.1 CBS WEST PALM BEACH FL 143° 8.0 13 - THIS ONE IS VHF BUT I ALREADY GET IT VIA D* WAIVER SO DON'T NEED IT THROUGH ANT.
WXEL 42 PBS WEST PALM BEACH FL 160° 7.5 42
WXEL-DT 42.1 PBS WEST PALM BEACH FL 160° 7.5 27
WFLX-DT 29.1 FOX WEST PALM BEACH FL 160° 7.5 28

As you can see ABC is the problem station for me (and seemingly others on this thread) not only is it over 30mi away but at a completely different compass heading than the others.
My goal is to get one antenna mounted on my roof that can pull in all these stations and the smaller it is the better. I was thinking the
Winegard MS-1000 - Might not be strong enough to get the ABC station?
Channel Master CM3000A - could work?
Winegard GS2000A Sensar II ??
and someone else recommended this (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F003%5F001%5F002%5F000&product%5Fid=15%2D2185) and a rotor system...

In the end, I'm just confused... I'd rather not get something as large as the DB4 posted above but if its the only way to guarantee I'd pull in all the stations with minimal hassle then I'll go with it...
Any help/advice much appreciated.

Edit: Actually the DB4 isn't too big but it says for 15-55 miles... most of my stations are < 15 so would it still work? What about the others I listed?

30 Miles is not gonna be problem at all.

I'm 30 miles from that station and I get it just fine with a Silver Sensor antenna in my attic

Just pick an antenna and try it out and I think you will fine you're worrying a bit much ;0

I would suggest this antenna from radio shack that has been suggested before:
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F003%5F001%5F002%5F000&product%5Fid=15%2D2160

Really? I can hardly get anything in my attic. That ceramic tile roof crap seems to block it.
One question with that antenna you posted (and even the DB4) they are strong ones compared to the MS-1000 so would I have more of a multipath issue? Should I get a rotor system? I'd rather not have to but not sure...

Is anyone else getting a dead 12-1?

Yes I'm in wellington too. But I bet by 10pm it'll be ok.

I have a problem.... Here are the stations I'd like to get: SNIP
Get a Radio Shack UHF Yagi (15-2160), a small antenna for about $25.00. Try it in your attic pointed towards 25.1. If you don't have success put in on your roof. It should work, if it doesn't save the box and return it.

I have a similar set-up in the opposite direction ( 25.1 & 34.1 off the side of the antenna, antenna pointed towards PB county transmitters) and get good results. The antenna is in my attic with a tile roof.

PS. I spent a considerable amount of time fiddling with this antenna and found that using a bubble level for pitch and roll axes made a considerable difference.