As we all know its Nov and black friday is comming up (im not saying they will have good deals) but we all know that everyone competes to sell there products even the high end projectors. How many people are waiting till after Nov 25th to see if there is any good deals on 1080p projectors? or do you think now is the best we'll see and its a perfect time to buy?

Waiting for the Epson Powerlite Home Cinema 6500...

I'd wait till early Jan (for Dec offerings as well). Mind u, one can only play the waiting for so long but in the end, u never really win as there's always something new/better on the horizon. But I'm sure the Dec releases will ONLY drive the existing PJ prices down.

But then I have a VP4001 so apart from more res and new features, 1080p won't really offer me anything more than what I have already.

Buy the best of a model from a year or so ago. Wait until you come across a great deal. I never buy new technology if I can help it. I would rather have one of the top of the line 1080p's from 2 years ago, than a new entry level 1080p. I would wait until a site like WOOT has a deal on 1080p, like the deal with the Planar 720p.

I'd wait till early Jan (for Dec offerings as well). Mind u, one can only play the waiting for so long but in the end, u never really win as there's always something new/better on the horizon. But I'm sure the Dec releases will ONLY drive the existing PJ prices down.

But then I have a VP4001 so apart from more res and new features, 1080p won't really offer me anything more than what I have already.

Is VP4001 720p? Any current 1080p PJ will be a huge leap, especially with BluRay.

I waited for over a year to buy. I convinced myself that 1080 projectors would come down in price big time after one year of "mainstream" availibility. Current prices finally got me to buy (Mitsu hc6500). Right now you can buy very good units for around $2500. Movies and football are GREAT! Will prices come down more? Seems likely. But I chose to not wait any longer. At this point for me anyway, I was willing to "not save" money by waiting any longer.;) You have to decide what your "saving $ by waiting" limit is.:confused: BTW I will never go back to "tv". In fact after only one month, 100" seems just right.:D

Buy the best of a model from a year or so ago. Wait until you come across a great deal. I never buy new technology if I can help it. I would rather have one of the top of the line 1080p's from 2 years ago, than a new entry level 1080p. I would wait until a site like WOOT has a deal on 1080p, like the deal with the Planar 720p.

what good 1080p projectors are out there now? what models would you recommend for a 100" screen? i also will be sitting 7 feet from the screen.

Is VP4001 720p? Any current 1080p PJ will be a huge leap, especially with BluRay.

Actually, I helped a friend set up his AE2000 a month ago and to me, the jump from 720p to 1080p is not as much as the jump from 480p to 720p.

On good BR sources, even my VP4001 puts out an excellent picture ....e.g of Crank+Hancock BR on my 120".

So people like me, is 1080p better, yes, marginally....but not at a difference of $1000:eek:

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Is VP4001 720p? Any current 1080p PJ will be a huge leap, especially with BluRay.

No way. Not if you are viewing from 1.5 screen width or more.

Actually, I helped a friend set up his AE2000 a month ago and to me, the jump from 720p to 1080p is not as much as the jump from 480p to 720p.

On good BR sources, even my VP4001 puts out an excellent picture ....e.g of Crank+Hancock BR on my 120".

So people like me, is 1080p better, yes, marginally....but not at a difference of $1000:eek:

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http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/crankxf4.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img45/crankxf4.jpg/1/)

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Fragster - Nice screenshots, especially the first one. I didn't think Hancock was out on BluRay yet, how'd you get it?

I don't think the the Panny 2000 is a good representation of how detailed and sharp a modern 1080p projector can look. There is a heated discussion going on over in the 2.35:1 CIH forum where Vern Dias did a test on the Panny 2000and found high res frequency rolled off severley enough so that it did not fully resolve 1080p. Apparently smoothscreen is a 2 edged sword.

Not sure how you get to $1000 difference between 1080p and 720p. The new Sanyo 1080p's msrp is under $1500 and the Mits 5500 can be had for around $1500 also. I doubt your VP4001 was $500 but I could be wrong.

mgj100 - I sit about 10-11 feet from a 110" wide 2.40 screen and it seems perfect to me. So yes I sit way under 1.5 screen widths so the more res the better. Right now I have an Epson Powerlite 1080 and I can't see pixels from my seat.

Buy the best of a model from a year or so ago. Wait until you come across a great deal. I never buy new technology if I can help it. I would rather have one of the top of the line 1080p's from 2 years ago, than a new entry level 1080p. I would wait until a site like WOOT has a deal on 1080p, like the deal with the Planar 720p.

I agree. This is what I try to do.

It's easy to get in a waiting for technology or price mode and delay too long in having something to use and enjoy.

In our house we ALWAYS look for bargains and best bang for our bucks. Anyhow, we found a great buy on a very nice Panasonic 720p almost two years ago and are so glad we jumped in and moved up from television to Theater in our Home with a projector and screen.

We intentionally chose 720p and once we bought a dvd player with Up Conversion we are completely satisfied - our hundreds of old dvd movies look pretty darn near HD to our eyeballs and so we can suffer the consequences of saving a ton of cash and prefer to wait for a really compelling reason to buy into marginally visually better yet far more expensive technology like B.Ray and 1080p.

Main thing is while you wait you are missing out - don't wait too long!!!

Before digital 1080p HT projectors were available, I had a 9 inch CRT that weighed over 200 lbs hanging from my ceiling in my quest for 1080p. The only source for 1080p then was 1080i broadcast TV and a megabuck scaler to properly deinterlace 1080i to 1080p. Once I got a taste of 1080p, I was ruined from watching DVD's and never bought another one. Grudgingly I would rent a DVD if a movie came out I really wanted to see.

THEN CAME BLURAY!!!! BluRay changed everything for me. I went from CRT and 16:9 screen to 1080p digital and 2.40 screen with anamorphic lens. My collection of BluRays is over a hundred already.

With 1080p projectors as affordable as they are now and BluRay date for date with DVD, I can see no reason why anyone in the market right now would even consider a 720p projector. And there is a HUGE difference in resolution don't let anyone tell you differently.

Having watched this market for a while (and buying 4 times) I think 'wait for woot to have what you want' is pretty crazy advice. My feeling is that, since PJs are largely a mail order, ie. online, and BF deals are mainly door busters for holiday shopping, I don't think there are 'best of the year' deals on PJs as much as other Consumer Electronic items. Does it hurt to wait 2 weeks, no :)

Especially if this new Epson 1080p is $1500 MRP (researching that next) then seems smart to wait and see the reviews and street prices.

Also as for 720p vs 1080p, I'm strongly in the camp that, presently, 720p is the best bargain-hunter bang for the buck. The difference is really marginal (and yes I've seen native 1080p content on both). Long term, sure that's what you want, and if Epson breaks some price barriers without glaring (or un-overcomable) weaknesses, then 1080p's a noble goal, but 720p shouldn't be a deal breaker if you're looking for the best bargain.

May as well buy now. I was ready to buy back in March, and I waited... and waited for prices to come down on the Sanyo PLV-Z2000. Then, the Z700 was announced. So, I waited for the pricing on the 700, thinking it would be a lot cheaper. When the pricing for the 700 was announced, it wasn't much cheaper. I held out a little longer, hoping the price would drop on the discontinued 2000. Wrong! Demand was high, and I ended up getting one of the last ones in Canada. Sanyo was out, the supplier was out, so my dealer ended up getting one from a third party. Actually spent $200 more than if I had bought it earlier. I am very happy with my purchase.

Bottom line, I should have bought it six months ago and been enjoying it instead of waiting to save a few bucks:D

Having watched this market for a while (and buying 4 times) I think 'wait for woot to have what you want' is pretty crazy advice. My feeling is that, since PJs are largely a mail order, ie. online, and BF deals are mainly door busters for holiday shopping, I don't think there are 'best of the year' deals on PJs as much as other Consumer Electronic items. Does it hurt to wait 2 weeks, no :)

Especially if this new Epson 1080p is $1500 MRP (researching that next) then seems smart to wait and see the reviews and street prices.

Also as for 720p vs 1080p, I'm strongly in the camp that, presently, 720p is the best bargain-hunter bang for the buck. The difference is really marginal (and yes I've seen native 1080p content on both). Long term, sure that's what you want, and if Epson breaks some price barriers without glaring (or un-overcomable) weaknesses, then 1080p's a noble goal, but 720p shouldn't be a deal breaker if you're looking for the best bargain.

Wow what new epson is $1500? Any specs? I already have a 1080p television and i know the difference between 1080p and 720p i prefer 1080p overall and on a pj i figured it will probably look a little less because of the 100" screen but that's worth it. But waiting it out isnt a bad idea because company's want to be able to show to years sales numbers so if in nov and December they decide not to sell there projectors cheaper than the consumer who might have bought one may just spend it on other deals at the door busters or in store. Then the company not only looses out on a sale, but maybe even a future customer. So it would be in the best interest to compete for Christmas shopping. Stock is all about numbers.

Also if company's don't want to lower prices then to bad for them, ill just buy a used one and then the company looses money overall because instead of me buying used i could have bought new if they went so greedy, especially in a time of recession when every dollar counts during Christmas time. if another company bites the dust o well, its the greed that got them there in the first place. i still think the bail out plan was a bad idea and we should have let the company's go out because they deserved it, This could have also paved the way of normal citizens to start there small businesses again, its the big greedy company's who took this away from them already.

May as well buy now. I was ready to buy back in March, and I waited... and waited for prices to come down on the Sanyo PLV-Z2000. Then, the Z700 was announced. So, I waited for the pricing on the 700, thinking it would be a lot cheaper. When the pricing for the 700 was announced, it wasn't much cheaper. I held out a little longer, hoping the price would drop on the discontinued 2000. Wrong! Demand was high, and I ended up getting one of the last ones in Canada. Sanyo was out, the supplier was out, so my dealer ended up getting one from a third party. Actually spent $200 more than if I had bought it earlier. I am very happy with my purchase.

Bottom line, I should have bought it six months ago and been enjoying it instead of waiting to save a few bucks:D

well if this was march i would have bought. its Nov 10th and i figured that it cant hurt to wait two weeks and see whats out there.

Buy the best of a model from a year or so ago. Wait until you come across a great deal. I never buy new technology if I can help it. I would rather have one of the top of the line 1080p's from 2 years ago, than a new entry level 1080p. I would wait until a site like WOOT has a deal on 1080p, like the deal with the Planar 720p.


agreed!!! i got a Benq W9000 1080p brand new for $1700.00 a few months after they discontinued it. the MSRP on this projector from 2007 was $6999.99 so that's a huge savings!!! (i'm sure it NEVER sold at the msrp, but you get the idea i'm sure)

wait at least until you hear about the black friday deals in a few weeks

wait at least until you hear about the black friday deals in a few weeks

I've been a avid BF shopper and I haven't seen any PJ deals during BF in the prev years. Unless this year is different.

Most of the scans for this year are already out and so far, I haven't seen any deals on PJ's yet. As a matter of fact, this year BF deals are probably the worst ever!

Most of the scans for this year are already out and so far, I haven't seen any deals on PJ's yet. As a matter of fact, this year BF deals are probably the worst ever!

Although I agree that BF doesn't look as good this year as it has in the past (this has been a trend for at least 3 years), CC, BB, and a few other traditional sources of projectors haven't yet had their ads posted. There are certainly some good deals, but I haven't seen any projectors yet.

In previous years, the Infocus 4805 and the Optoma DV10 were both heavily represented. I have no idea if any projectors will make the cut this year.

Jim

Buy the best of a model from a year or so ago. Wait until you come across a great deal. I never buy new technology if I can help it. I would rather have one of the top of the line 1080p's from 2 years ago, than a new entry level 1080p. I would wait until a site like WOOT has a deal on 1080p, like the deal with the Planar 720p.

we'll i took your advice. i went ahead and bought a pt-ae1000u For $1000 on ebay and after Microsoft's rebates its only $800 That's the cheapest 1080p projector ive have seen :) I cant wait to setup my first 1080p. i used to have a 720p and loved it but now i cant wait for this one.