I was just looking at a Blu-Ray player today and noticed one major flaw - When you hook it up using HDMI standard, your going to have to pay twice as much for 2 HDMI cables!

Here's my reasoning: A HDMI cable contains not only the video information, but the audio info as well, right? Well most of us like to run our audio from out sources to a receiver, if we do that though, we have to get another HDMI cable that goes from the receiver to the tv!

Some of you might be saying "just use the seperate digital audio out for audio!" Well that digital out is sp/dif, which is actually inferior to the loss-less audio you get from HDMI!

Does anyone have any solutions around this? I certainly can't think of any!

Very good, modestly priced HDMI cables from Monoprice and Blue Jeans Cable make this a non-issue IMO, when compared to one's investment in electronic gear.

Mike

So you are now going to complain about a $5 HDMI cable!!

you need two sets of cables regardless of whether it's hdmi or not...

i'm not sure what the gripe is here... :confused:

I guess if you were using Monster cables, that would be a significant extra expense.

I guess if you were using Monster cables, that would be a significant extra expense.

That's precisely the point, I am a videophile so therefore I want the best image quality. So now to gripe more, I have to run my awesome monster cable into the receiver, which will lose a little bit of quality there, then I have to buy another one to the set...I am sorry, but they should of made the HDMI cable with 2 different breakout cables, one for video and one for audio.

:rolleyes:

i suggest reading a few of the topics in this thread about "awesome monster cables"...

why do you think you will be "losing a little bit of quality" in the avr?

edit: as far as making it with two different break-out cables, if you read the hdmi spec, you'll see why it's not...

HDMI is digital. You never "lose a little bit of quality". It either works perfectly or badly.

Monster is best at one thing. Promoting their overpriced cable as being better than anyone elses.
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Toto, we're not in analog anymore.

HDMI is digital. You never "lose a little bit of quality". It either works perfectly or badly.

Monster is best at one thing. Promoting their overpriced cable as being better than anyone elses.
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Toto, we're not in analog anymore.

I've recently just found this out to and now I've ventured into making my own cables. It's kind of a shame so many people (including myself) have ended up paying many times more money on monster cables when I could of had comparable (if not better) quality on my own.

I've recently just found this out to and now I've ventured into making my own cables.Well, let's not go from one extreme to the other. I wouldn't recommend trying to make a cable from scratch. Attaching the connectors to the cable is very difficult to do by hand. The impedance characteristics of HDMI cables are critical and a hand wired connector will likely have serious impedance mismatches unless you're an expert at soldering such devices.

And I doubt that you will save any significant amount of money by doing that either, as compared to the price of finished cables from companies like Blue Jeans Cable or Monoprice.

I have done a side by side comparison of blu-ray using a $120 Monstor HDMI cable and a $8 monoprice HDMI cable. The picture quality is identical. The only downside of the monoprice cable is that it is a little stiffer and somewhat harder to use in tight spaces. For $100 I can live with that.

Well, let's not go from one extreme to the other. I wouldn't recommend trying to make a cable from scratch. Attaching the connectors to the cable is very difficult to do by hand. The impedance characteristics of HDMI cables are critical and a hand wired connector will likely have serious impedance mismatches unless you're an expert at soldering such devices.

And I doubt that you will save any significant amount of money by doing that either, as compared to the price of finished cables from companies like Blue Jeans Cable or Monoprice.

I would never try and make a HDMI cable, I am just referring to standard analog video or maybe even component video, then of course stereo audio cables.

you need two sets of cables regardless of whether it's hdmi or not...

i'm not sure what the gripe is here... :confused:

The ability to do math maybe...?