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Agrajag
11-11-08, 05:07 PM
Guys,

I have a Home Theater Master MX-500 that I still love. It does everything I need it to do (short of being able to power on/off the Xbox 360) so I haven't felt the need to replace it yet.

Now I'm considering getting a Samsung xx750 LED DLP TV and need to find a way to get its discreet power on/off codes into the MX-500. Since this model is older it doesn't include them and I'm not sure how to go about it.

That got me to thinking.... I own a generic USB IR emitter that I bought as part of the IRCLONE project way back.

Is there anything out there that can accept an instruction regarding the make-up of an IR code and then just kick it out of this sort of emitter so that anyone can teach their learning remotes any command all from a huge library of stored data?

If not, why not? Seems like a great concept to me. It'd make sending codes to each other a real breeze. Just DL them from here, convert if needed and then teach your remote....

mdavej
11-11-08, 11:14 PM
Any JP1 remote and cable can accomplish that quite easily. Follow the links in my signature to the huge library of codes. However, no Samsung I know of has discrete on/off codes.

Agrajag
11-12-08, 12:07 AM
OUCH. No discreet Samsung TV codes? That's almost a reason good enough to NOT buy a Sammy. I do a lot with them.

As far as JP1 remotes I have an 8811 and a Cinema7.

I had assumed that their usefulness had gone away given their age.

Does that mean I'd need a cable for these to get the codes to it?

Thanks for the help!

Kupakai
11-12-08, 07:36 AM
Although it lists older models, the following link from Samsung's site lists discrete codes for their TVs that they've been pretty consistent with:

http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view.jsp?isREL=Y&SITE_ID=1&AT_ID=15505&ARS_ID=8191811

You can use either the Cinema 7 or the URC-8811 to generate those ir codes to teach to your MX-500, even without the JP1 cable (although with the cable, you'd be able to add codes that are not built in to the remote). You can read about it here:

http://www.surfremotecontrol.com/faq.htm#MX500-5

You need to convert those ir codes from Samsung to advanced codes, but here are the ones for power on/off:

Power ON = 001
Power OFF = 253

mdavej
11-12-08, 10:02 AM
Thanks kupakai. I've been looking for sammy discretes for years and never found any that worked on my old crt. I'll have to give those a try. BTW, are the codes in the linked pdf the OBC's in hex?

Agrajag,

If you get a cable, your JP1 remotes will never be obsolete. You can always load the latest codes. But as kupakai said, you don't need a cable for the few commands you need right now.

Kupakai
11-12-08, 10:17 AM
I had forgotten note that the advanced codes above is for setup code TV/0060 on the URC-8811 and Cinema 7.

Agrajag
11-12-08, 03:01 PM
I ordered a USB cable last night (didn't see your PM until after so sorry about that).

Looking forward to getting it.

I will say that I started looking over the software and, WOW, major overload. I really need to clear some time to focus on where to start and how. Even the starters guide you pointed me to was overwhelming.

Thanks for the direct codes. Much appreciated!

JeffNebraska
11-14-08, 11:33 AM
I have a Samsung HLP-4674W and a URC MX-900 remote. I have been searching in vain for a discrete On command. I have tried about fifteen hex codes and several PP DB codes with no success. My post over at remotecentral.com has gotten cold, although someone recently pointed me here.

I have a Radio Shack All-In-One and know how to use it to convert advanced codes into learnable IR, but I don't understand the links above. Where do I get the three digit advanced codes for my TV using these links? It looks like Power On is listed as "99." That's not an advanced code, I don't think, though I'm happy to try "099."

Advice?

mdavej
11-14-08, 12:22 PM
I have a Samsung HLP-4674W and a URC MX-900 remote. I have been searching in vain for a discrete On command. I have tried about fifteen hex codes and several PP DB codes with no success. My post over at remotecentral.com has gotten cold, although someone recently pointed me here.

I have a Radio Shack All-In-One and know how to use it to convert advanced codes into learnable IR, but I don't understand the links above. Where do I get the three digit advanced codes for my TV using these links? It looks like Power On is listed as "99." That's not an advanced code, I don't think, though I'm happy to try "099."

Advice?
You may not understand what I'm about to say, depending on your JP1 knowlege, but here goes. The codes in the samsung docs are apparently the OBC's in hex. So convert to decimal, then enter that into the JP1 software tools (RM or KM) in the OBC field of just about any samsung tv upgrade file. Then you'll see the correct EFC's which are in kupakai's post.

For example 99 hex = 153 decimal. Enter 153 in the OBC field in RM/KM and get an EFC (a.k.a. Advanced Code) of 001.
98 hex = 152 decimal results in an EFC of 253.

EDIT: Here's the rest of them:

Sam. EFC
1b 251
43 171
4d 040
53 107
69 073
84 188
85 192
86 190
88 061
8a 063
8b 067
c1 177
c2 175
c3 179
e1 209
e2 207
e3 211
e4 204
e5 208
e6 206
e7 210
f8 013
f9 017
fa 015
fb 019
fc 012
fd 016
fe 014
ff 018

Kupakai
11-14-08, 12:45 PM
"99" for Power On in that list is hexidecimal for the function number, so the function number in decimal would be 153. However, converting that number to advanced code is not simple. I use Remotemaster (http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1339) or Keymap-master (http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1888) to convert it, but it's still a bit involved. First, you need to set the correct protocol in the SETUP tab, since different protocols have different way of converting from function number to advanced code. In the case of Samsung TVs, the protocol is NECx2. Then go to the FUNCTIONS tab and put in the function number under the column for OBC (that's the same as the function number). It will then give you a number under the column called "EFC", which is the same thing as advanced code. As you can see, it's a bit involved, especially if you are not familar with JP1 remote programming.

EDIT: I see mdavej already explained and converted the numbers while I was posting :), but I'll just leave the links to the programs in case you want to try it yourself.

chris_h2
03-03-09, 08:14 PM
Sorry for reviving this old thread, but some things are worth it.

There is a great utility called CCF2MX that will take in the code from a .ccf file (pronto) and convert it to code that can be downloaded directly into the mx500 via the IRClone software (500e). Search the remotecentral site for it. PM me if you are not able to locate the utility there.

Obviously, if you can't find a .ccf file that has the codes either, then you are still out of luck, but this utility has made my life easier several times now.