Phone:

Call for immediate pick-up @ 888-635-5142 and complain now! This is a high level Sirius complaint phone #.

E-Mail:

CEO Mel Karmazin - mkarmazin@siriusradio.com
James E. Meyes President, Operations and Sales - jmeyer@siriusradio.com
Scott Greenstein President, Entertainment and Sports - sgreenstein@siriusradio.com
And Address and Phone Numbers

1221 Avenue of the Americas, 36th Floor
New York, NY 10020
Phone: (212) 584-5100
Fax: (212) 584-5200

What's there to be "pissed" about?

seriously guys.... backspin and boombox were good but not the most popular... plus their playlists sucked after awhile... there are alot of stations covering it and consolidating because of the economic environment

seriously guys.... backspin and boombox were good but not the most popular... plus their playlists sucked after awhile... there are alot of stations covering it and consolidating because of the economic environment

They have TWO rap channels now... this downright criminal. They have all of THREE electronic/dance channels, what a joke. However we get 21 rock channels including FOUR dedicate to individual artists? Give me a break.

Boombox was always one of those "iffy" channels about 1/2 the people loved the other 1/2 hated it since it replaced a popular channel called "Remix" which was EXCELLENT. I've had Sirius since '05 and trust me this new line up is really WEAK.

This has NOTHING to do with the current economic environment... they could fire all the DJs and just get a PD to build a playlist, put it on shuffle for a week then repeat. Heck let the listeners build the playlist online by voting for songs from the Sirius/XM collection.

These changes are clearly a lack of foresight and diversity by the people running the new SiriusXM, aka your "all rock, all the time" satellite network :( I sent my email this AM and might send a few more.

I still don't get it. What changes (this time), specifically, are people pissed about?

They have TWO rap channels now... this downright criminal. They have all of THREE electronic/dance channels, what a joke. However we get 21 rock channels including FOUR dedicate to individual artists? Give me a break.

Boombox was always one of those "iffy" channels about 1/2 the people loved the other 1/2 hated it since it replaced a popular channel called "Remix" which was EXCELLENT. I've had Sirius since '05 and trust me this new line up is really WEAK.

This has NOTHING to do with the current economic environment... they could fire all the DJs and just get a PD to build a playlist, put it on shuffle for a week then repeat. Heck let the listeners build the playlist online by voting for songs from the Sirius/XM collection.

These changes are clearly a lack of foresight and diversity by the people running the new SiriusXM, aka your "all rock, all the time" satellite network :( I sent my email this AM and might send a few more.


i hear you... but there are 3 rap stations including shade 45.....but backspin was bad... maybe a new playlist would have helped but i think they are trying to save money

I still don't get it. What changes (this time), specifically, are people pissed about?

Sirius Subscribers Lost:

Music:

Back Spin: This was my go to channel when I had guests in the car. Everyone always laughed and we had a good time with old school rap beats. Plus it was uncensored. The replacement is Hip Hop Nation, which is a joke. Not only is it now censored, they have completely abandoned songs my generation grew up listening to.

Punk: Read Backspin.

Buzzsaw: One of the few channels I could go to, if I just wanted to rock out. The replacement is a disgrace.

Talk:

Maxim Radio: Channel dedicated to guys. They however kept the channel dedicated for Gays & Women..

Howard Stern: Was sent a memo telling him to clean up his show / and mouth... Really? They are now going to censor the man responsible for what little success they have had.

Bubba the Love Sponge: Are not going to renew his contract.

Sports:

College Sports & NBA: We had this pre-merger. Now they want us to pay them MORE to get these back... Really?

I only had 6 presets and I lost 4 in one swoop. Before the merger Mel & Greenstein where both on Howard Stern promising the Sirius listeners that after the merger we would not lose anything, we would only GAIN.

Most importantly we where told we would not have to pay one cent extra to keep what we had.

If I didn't have a life time subscription I would have already cancelled my account. For now Sirius is dead to me, and I've gone back to my iPod. And until things are returned to the way they where before the merger I will continue to raise hell, and tell everyone I know to never buy this terrible product.

I'm so pissed about the changes, that I am on the phone now to cancel.

I have had both. I had XM in a car and could hardly find something to listen to. Their choices (in rock) were either really mainstream (big tracks, top tracks) or so targeted as to be tough to listen to.

I can't believe the VAULT lost out to Deep Tracks! In my mind there was no contest.

And Buzzsaw lost out to the Boneyard? Again, not even close.

In addition to the above addresses, I know that customercare@sirius.com gets monitored closely, especially now. They have lost a ton of people.

Make your voice heard!

I'm happy with the changes, they left the XM channels that I listen to alone and added some more choices. Thanks for the phone number, I'm calling to let them know I like new lineup and they should not listen to the others calling to complain.:)

I'm happy with the changes, they left the XM channels that I listen to alone and added some more choices. Thanks for the phone number, I'm calling to let them know I like new lineup and they should not listen to the others calling to complain.:)


Off with his head! ;)

I'm happy with the changes, they left the XM channels that I listen to alone and added some more choices. Thanks for the phone number, I'm calling to let them know I like new lineup and they should not listen to the others calling to complain.:)


LOL...

but seriously, they told Stern to censor what he does?

Actually, what was I thinking? I cannot believe they have gone away from the "I Love Lucy" naming convention. Fred, Lucy and Ethyl were much better channel names. I will be calling to file a complaint and threaten to cancel my sub.

LOL...

but seriously, they told Stern to censor what he does?

Says who? I seriously doubt that happened. Sounds like BS nonsense. Site a source and maybe it will have some credibility.

Says who? I seriously doubt that happened. Sounds like BS nonsense. Site a source and maybe it will have some credibility.

It was mentioned on the Stern show last week by Howard. And Jamie Foxx on his comedy channel echoed the same thing.

huh... yesterday i heard the same cursing and everything... i guess that stayed

I am not mad about the changes.

I am angry about the fact now my Stiletto 10 has DROPOUTS from between a second to more than 6-7 seconds since the new channel data was updated on my unit.

Not on Stern or any of the talk channels I listened too, but on the music channels that were taken over by XM, or brought over to Sirius, and MAN! is it annoying.

Even though I will have Full antenna(3 bars), it will stop playing the music, and say acquiring signal.

The line is not loose, I checked. It has happened in the car, and at home.

Really F'ing annoying.

Anyone else notice this.

I heard it happen on:

1. Cinemagic. REALLY GLAD they brought this over from XM. Holiday music is nice though for now.
2. 80's on 8
3. 40's on 4. Yes, I like Big Band/Swing music every once and while.
4. Siriusly Sinatra. The only regular Sirius channel where I noticed this.

NEVER happens on Howard 100/101, ESPN, Mad Dog radio though.

Anyone else?

It was mentioned on the Stern show last week by Howard. And Jamie Foxx on his comedy channel echoed the same thing.

Again, BS. I listen every day, and he hasn't said a thing.

Lost my 2 favorite channels. The Vault and Buzzsaw. Deep tracks sucks hard and is not even close to the Vault. Buzzsaw changed to 24 hours of AC/DC. I love the band but not that much. Very disappointed.:(

I will be cancelling 1 or 2 of my 3 radios. I think they blew it with this merger.
I hope the Stern rumors are wrong.

The wife and I turned on 80's on 8 this morning, like we have done every saturday morning for the past two years, to hear Nina Blackwood's Big 80's show. Imagine our surprise when we heard Rick Dees instead. OMG, did people actually listen to this crap back in the 80s? I know I never did. I mean I guess it's entertaining if your idea of entertainment is lame sound effects, stupid jokes, and "celebrity" impersonations. But the Nina Blackwood show was about nothing but the music. We just can't believe that they took a live show off to put this junk on.

I thought that they were going to leave the Sirius and XM stations alone, and just let me get XM if I wanted. If I'd wanted XM, I would have bought XM.

So yea, I'm so pissed right now.

Lost my 2 favorite channels. The Vault and Buzzsaw. Deep tracks sucks hard and is not even close to the Vault.Agree. I've listened to Deep Tracks more than a few times in my buddy's car, and I didn't care for their playlist at all. I never heard one good, non-popular Progressive Rock song like the Vault used to play. Just stuff like songs from the early Buckingham/Nicks duo album, and other worthless crap such as that.

Big deal if it's obscure - if it sucks. And it did - it was so bad I made him turn it off. If it was even 1/3 as good as Fleetwood Mac, or even any of their solo stuff, I could've withstood it. But it was terrible. All I can say is, no wonder no one heard of them before The Mac. They must've just brought them into the group because they were scoring some fantastic coke at the time. I don't recall ever hearing anything on The Vault that actually made me want to turn it off like that. And this was during the early evening hours - not 3 AM or anything like that. I'd rather hear something a bit obscure that I like more often than having them dig deep into obscurity into stuff that just plain sucks, just for the sake of not repeating things.

I do remember hearing some popular Yes stuff, Like "Your Move/All Good People", or "Long Distance Runaround/The Fish", but who doesn't play that? (I was actually quite shocked to hear them let it run through to "The Fish".) I want to be turned on to stuff that everyone and their brother doesn't already own, and that I haven't heard a gazillion times over the years, and that wasn't in the Top 40 selling albums of the time. The Vault actually used to occasionally play Captain Beefheart, for crissakes.

I will especially miss the show "Progressions", that's for sure. There is no decent Prog Rock programming on either now (unless they had enough sense to keep that show around - I don't know - I don't currently have Sirius, but I did want to get The Vault a la carte again when they had it. Forget it now, though - I don't even want either service).

At least they had enough brains to keep Underground Garage around - I'll give them credit for that.

Lost my 2 favorite channels. The Vault and Buzzsaw. Deep tracks sucks hard and is not even close to the Vault. Buzzsaw changed to 24 hours of AC/DC. I love the band but not that much. Very disappointed.:(

I will be cancelling 1 or 2 of my 3 radios. I think they blew it with this merger.
I hope the Stern rumors are wrong.

I'm mourning the loss of The Vault as well. I listened to Deep Tracks most of today while doing work around the apartment and while I liked a few of the offerings, the playlist just didn't have the same appeal to me. I'll give myself another few weeks to check out other stations, but I can see myself xcling at least one of my two radios.

I'm mourning the loss of The Vault as well. I listened to Deep Tracks most of today while doing work around the apartment and while I liked a few of the offerings, the playlist just didn't have the same appeal to me. I'll give myself another few weeks to check out other stations, but I can see myself xcling at least one of my two radios.

If you want "The Vault" check out what is now known as "Clasic Vinyl" on XM46. I won't be, though. I always thought th Vault had way too much classic rock. In addition, 46 now has all the "star" DJs from Sirius. Way too much talk. I heard these same people play this same music all through the 80s and 90s. I know the songs. I don't need to be told what they are. Save money and fire the DJs. I'm sure they don't work cheap.

Decades channels try to pretend they're radio stations, so DJs are right in character. Deep Tracks plays stuff either I've never heard of (but often like) or stuff I haven't heard for years. The hosts provide a welcomed service there (except Dan Neer.) Too bad GTM got sick. He and Earle Bailey (and some of the less-heard other) had it right.

Lithium or Alt Nation does not even come close to Lucy.

I really miss Lucy

If you want "The Vault" check out what is now known as "Clasic Vinyl" on XM46. I won't be, though. I always thought th Vault had way too much classic rock. In addition, 46 now has all the "star" DJs from Sirius. Way too much talk. I heard these same people play this same music all through the 80s and 90s. I know the songs. I don't need to be told what they are. Save money and fire the DJs. I'm sure they don't work cheap.

Decades channels try to pretend they're radio stations, so DJs are right in character. Deep Tracks plays stuff either I've never heard of (but often like) or stuff I haven't heard for years. The hosts provide a welcomed service there (except Dan Neer.) Too bad GTM got sick. He and Earle Bailey (and some of the less-heard other) had it right.

Dan Neer :D After a few days of hearing him, blech.... I've been on CV a couple of times, but not for long. Any chance they throw in some Little Feat or Zappa? For the small sampling I've had, CV seems like quite a few "classic rock" fm stations that happen to be free.

Ok. I'm much more annoyed now than I was at the whole Rick Dees thing from this morning. I always listen to alt nation. I have been for three years. So I know most of the songs they play very well.

They were playing You Don't Know Me by Ben Folds. Toward the end of the song, the lyrics go "Why the f**k would you want me back". Instead it said "Why the would you want me back". Like I said, I've been listening for three years, and I've NEVER heard them censor a song before. And I've heard a lot worse on Alt Nation than that one little line.

Sirius has always censored songs on some of the more mainstream stations like Sirius Hits 1 and the decade stations, presumably because those stations are played in public. I know my wife's salon usually has some station like Sirius Hits 1 on. But Alt Nation is different. For instance I know to never have it on in the car when my inlaws are in there with us.

This merger is turning Sirus radio lame. Eh. At least there's no commercials. Yet.

You all realize they have more debt than the current valuation of the company? They are likely looking to sell the whole thing to someone like Clear Channel, or another big media conglomerate. One of the conditions would likely be to clean up the stations.

But who knows.

You all sound like a bunch of whiners. It's radio. It's music. It's good enough, who cares?

Is it just me or are the remaining 2 or 3 hip hop stations fully censored now? I listened to Hip Hop Nation on Sirius and XM, both censored. Same with a couple mix shows on Shade 45.

Uncensored hip hop, house music, and sports channels were the reasons I originally signed up with Sirius. Guess I'm gonna save the $120+ next year as I will not be renewing.

My guess is they're on the verge of bankruptcy anyhow, their stock is around .25 cents.

They are likely looking to sell the whole thing to someone like Clear Channel, or another big media conglomerate.

Have to admit it would be pretty funny if Stern ended up working for CC again. If that happens I wouldn't be surprised if he starts streaming only through his website. The long arm of the law is trying hard to censor the net but haven't done it yet.

I'm just pissed they've replaced, at least temporarily, the punk channel with ac/dc radio. Don't get me wrong, I love ac/dc, but you can hear them on any other of a dozen stations on sirius, but not able to hear the punk stuff anywhere else.

You all sound like a bunch of whiners. It's radio. It's music. It's good enough, who cares?The people who are responding to this thread apparently care. It's here for us to whine. So we're whining. But then I guess there always needs to be someone to make a comment like this whenever anyone complains about something...

The people who are responding to this thread apparently care. It's here for us to whine. So we're whining. But then I guess there always needs to be someone to make a comment like this whenever anyone complains about something...

And there is always someone to complain about anything...

I always thought the Vault had way too much classic rock.Yes, that's true - for the day and early evening times. But from 11:00 PM on, with the show "Progressions" and on through the wee morning hours, they played quite a bit of non-mainstream Progressive Rock. Those are the hours I mainly used to listen to them.

A lot of Prog Rock of the Canterbury variety, which I happen to like a lot.

Dan Neer :D After a few days of hearing him, blech.... I've been on CV a couple of times, but not for long. Any chance they throw in some Little Feat or Zappa?

If it's Little Feat you want, Deep Tracks is the place. Sometimes I feel like it's "all Feat, all the time."

For the small sampling I've had, CV seems like quite a few "classic rock" fm stations that happen to be free.

Yup. Drop the DJs on CV and at least there's that difference

You all realize they have more debt than the current valuation of the company? They are likely looking to sell the whole thing to someone like Clear Channel, or another big media conglomerate. One of the conditions would likely be to clean up the stations.

But who knows.

You all sound like a bunch of whiners. It's radio. It's music. It's good enough, who cares?
Do you listen to anything other than Stern? Would you be upset if "they" changed his format?

Quit forum-crapping.

Just fyi..

Was told by Sirius cs rep that NBA's contract with Sirius expired and they chose to sign with XM. Hence now you have to order Best Of XM to get those channels.

Also...was told that Hip Hop Nation and Shade45 are now broadcasting as censored on both XM and Sirius. The cs rep seemed like she had more information than she was willing to share regarding this issue. She did say that they're working on a solution to provide the uncesored broadcasts to Sirius customers and that this could take up around 2 weeks to accomplish. XM version of those channels would continue to be censored.

I personally think this is a bigger issue than just splitting which signal goes to which subscriber. The rep kept telling me to listen to Sirius online..this is probably where these services will end up after the satellite part fails.

If it's Little Feat you want, Deep Tracks is the place. Sometimes I feel like it's "all Feat, all the time."

I guess I just hadn't listened long enough yet. I came home last night and put it on and heard 3 LF tunes in about a 1/2 hour's time. :cool:

I was told the same thing about Boombox. Their contract expired and they chose not to renew.

I really loved those crazy mash ups. Ludacris and the Stones? Awesome.

I really only listen to a few stations, most of which I can get off the web really. Stern is on TV. My Stiletto 100 runs so hot, batteries explode.

Hmmm. just cancelled one radio... two to go?

And there is always someone to complain about anything...

So customers who are unhappy with a service they are paying for shouldn't complain about it when that service suddenly provides them less value? Prior to the switch over, the stations of Fred, Ethel and Lucy played deep cuts from lots of acts. Now, they strictly stick to very safe choices with lots more repetition. Instead of Mission of Burma or Lene Lovitch, I get Level 42. When I get the Cure, do I get "Killing an Arab" or "Lovecats"? No, I get "Friday, I'm in Love".

Whole categories of music have been deleted from the channels. There is no longer any sort of Punk, Disco or Ska stations...and a 1-hour show once a week is no replacement.

And while Sirius was quite fond of their DJs, XM listeners rarely had them...and when they were there, they were unintrusive, such as on XM Cafe or Ethel, where the DJs would be brief and to the point...and they WOULD NEVER, EVER TALK OVER THE MUSIC.

I am very close to canceling my subscriptions and moving to just listening to the iPod in the car, instead. I'm willing to give them a short amount of time to fix the situation...and complaining about it is one way that I'm hoping they'll take notice in hopes of keeping me and others like me as a customer. You may call that whining, I call that my right as a customer.

Look, XM failed, and was purchased by Sirius. If all those XM channels were so great, maybe it would have gone the other way. But it didn't.

And now the combined company will likely fail unless they pull a rabbit out of a hat.

Would you rather have any satellite radio company, or no satellite radio company?

You're not entitled to anything. This is the company, this is what they chose to do. And most likely it was due to listenership of the stations you all are complaining about losing.

They aren't going to bring back stations virtually no one listened to. The 3 people who complain about a barely listened to station also will make no difference. If your response is to cancel your subscription, that seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Satellite radio is still far superior to the alternatives.

Look, XM failed, and was purchased by Sirius

No.. Sirius was in more financial trouble then XM. fact is they both would have failed without this merger, hell even with the merger chances are they're going to go under.

But anyway since the changes I listened to the 60's, it seemed close to what it was on XM before the merger.

The 70's had much more talk during the day yesterday then usual, something I didn't like but last night is was very good. Good playlist and little talk.

I don't know. I'm willing to give them until the 1st of the year. That's the problem sat radio has right now, even a 6 year XM vet like me if I don't like the changes I now have many other alternatives. 4 years ago if I didn't like some changes I had to put up with it.

No.. Sirius was in more financial trouble then XM. fact is they both would have failed without this merger, hell even with the merger chances are they're going to go under.

But anyway since the changes I listened to the 60's, it seemed close to what it was on XM before the merger.

The 70's had much more talk during the day yesterday then usual, something I didn't like but last night is was very good. Good playlist and little talk.

I don't know. I'm willing to give them until the 1st of the year. That's the problem sat radio has right now, even a 6 year XM vet like me if I don't like the changes I now have many other alternatives. 4 years ago if I didn't like some changes I had to put up with it.

Sirius bought XM, plain and simple. How you can conclude XM was in better shape is amazing...

Sirius bought XM, plain and simple. How you can conclude XM was in better shape is amazing...

Well the point is moot now.

But I conclude it because it was true. They weren't in much better shape, they too would have folded, right along with Sirius.

The ONLY reason is came about the way it did was because to get the merger approved they knew they needed someone with Mel's name, knowhow and presence in the radio business. When Mel spoke, people, including people in Congress and the FCC listened..XM had no one like that, Sirius did.

But again it doesn't matter anymore.

If your response is to cancel your subscription, that seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Satellite radio is still far superior to the alternatives.

No, it really isn't....at least, not for me, anymore. My iPod is a better solution. My local public-radio station, which plays a lot of music I don't hear anywhere, is NOW a better solution.

Canceling my subscriptions seems to be the best option, right now. The idea that I should just learn to like it isn't much of a choice, in my book. What other voting option do I have with Sirius XM, otherwise?

Look, XM failed, and was purchased by Sirius. If all those XM channels were so great, maybe it would have gone the other way. But it didn't.
Is that what Howie told you:rolleyes:

Is that what Howie told you:rolleyes:

No, that's what it generally means when one company's stock is dissolved into another company. And when it's represented to stockholders as a purchase.

There's no gray area here.

Is that what Howie told you:rolleyes:

YES IT IS!!!!!!! YES IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BABABOOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There, now that I got that out of my system ;)

I like satellite radio, but I have to admit, if Howard did go to just streaming on the net, I think I would let my time run out, and not re-up.

I just switched my plan from a prepaid year to month month just because I no longer have confidence in the financial future of SiriusXM.

I have enough credit on my account to go until June 2008, and from there I will either purchase gift cards to keep a credit on there, or just dump it altogether.

I have to admit, if Howard either went to all net or jumped ship(he won't do this I believe), I would probably cancel my subscription the next day.

I can live without the NFL, MLB, and all the music choices. I lived without all of them before satellite, and I think I will be fine with just my CD's and the local airwaves for sports.

But others will feel differently, and that is fine.

No, that's what it generally means when one company's stock is dissolved into another company. And when it's represented to stockholders as a purchase.

There's no gray area here.Sirius press release states merger. C'mon we know you are just parroting Howie. It's okay, I have to give Howie more credit than I have in the past, now that I have had Sirius music programming shoved down my throat, it's obvious that not many people subscribed to Sirius for the music, so it must just be for the Howie.

I'm getting a bit pissed now. Completely no punk on sirius now, and other stations are getting censored too. sirius 24 plays 90's alternative and it's censoring whereas it didn't in the past. 26 is playing some really odd stuff too. There is a reason I picked sirius over xm. Sirius had better programming. The music is better, the talk is better. At the end sirius had more subscribers than xm ( I think) for the same reason...sirius is a better product. Now I'm wondering how you're "improving" something with the alternative to what people chose in the first place?

Keep this up and I may decide to break out my cd's again.

There is a reason I picked sirius over xm. Sirius had better programming. The music is better, the talk is better. At the end sirius had more subscribers than xm ( I think) for the same reason...sirius is a better product. Keep this up and I may decide to break out my cd's again. In the end XM still had more subscribers, but that really does not matter much.
The music is better if you consider taking programming currently available on FM and removing the commercials a good thing. Personally, repetitive top 40 style BS programming is not for me so I'm only sticking around for O&A now.

I'm an XM subscriber and the only things positive about the lineup changes were giving us Sinatra back (you thieves!) and the NBA games.

The new channels from Sirius are redundant with what we already had on XM.

Sirius press release states merger. C'mon we know you are just parroting Howie. It's okay, I have to give Howie more credit than I have in the past, now that I have had Sirius music programming shoved down my throat, it's obvious that not many people subscribed to Sirius for the music, so it must just be for the Howie.


Pat sirius purchased xm. and now that we are sinking under one company i think we can leave howie out of the discussion..

Pat sirius purchased xm. and now that we are sinking under one company i think we can leave howie out of the discussion..I would leave him out if it except he seems to be the source of AbMabFag's valuable points of view. :)

I am soooooooooo pissed, the vast majority of the XM channels my family loved are now gone:

Fungus - my wife and I are ~40, we are old school punks. Losing this station was like a punch in the nuts, the "Bam Magera" channel is a sad substitute for pikers.

Beyond Jazz - Fun progressive Jazz is necessary to keep the youngsters interested, how else am I supposed to convince my kids Jazz isn't elderly music?

Chrome - What can I say, I grew up in the 70's, for me it is a vital guilty pleasure!

It seems the only channel I like that they will bring back is "Boneyard"

WTF? Does anyone really want to hear 24 hour stations of bands???
AC/DC This band died when Bon Scott did.
Jimmy Buffet Parents who listen to this crap are the reason thier kids turn around and listen to Satanic Death Metal and huff solvents.
Grateful Dead uh, yeah, right, these people listen to the Radio? Haven't they shunned all worldly possesions? Shouldn't they be out on the ocean saving whales, or in some far off rainforest, or protesting somewhere?
Led Zeppelin Decent music, but I thought most people heard enough of them at every high school or college party they went to?
Bruce Springsteen same answer as Jimmy Buffet.
Jam On Same answer as grateful dead.

Wow, I loved XM and had three subscriptions. I am seriously considering cancelling it, and just wiring my FiOS box to listen to "music choice" or whatever... SHEESH!!! What a way to ruin a good thing...

You all realize they have more debt than the current valuation of the company? They are likely looking to sell the whole thing to someone like Clear Channel, or another big media conglomerate. One of the conditions would likely be to clean up the stations.

But who knows.

You all sound like a bunch of whiners. It's radio. It's music. It's good enough, who cares?

Who cares? We pay $130/year to listen to satellite radio. Explain to me how it is radio I should be paying for when I can get edited radio for free. Explain to me how it is music when half of the lyrics in a song are edited. Get the hell out of here with your dumb ass comments.

And there is always someone to complain about anything...
You could go start your own thread and quit pissing in this one.
Not a complaint but a suggestion:rolleyes:

My number one preset is gone- X-country. It was replaced with Outlaw Country. Which seems like they are the same but not even close.

Led Zeppelin Decent music, but I thought most people heard enough of them at every high school or college party they went to?



Zeppelin is the only channel keeping me sane untill buzzsaw comes back.(i hope)

deep tracks blows and i do miss the vault.

What I'm pissed about is the loss of XCountry and the "gain" of Outlaw Country. What a joke! Xcountry was far superior and didn't have the likes of semi-talent Mojo Nixon who apparently can't speak a sentence without dropping f-bombs every other word.

I'm glad of the addition of stations like Margaritaville, and am VERY glad Bluesville didn't go away. I'm ambivelant about The Vault v. Deep Tracks since I listened to both, but somewhat prefer Deep Tracks. I'm also glad the era specific stations (40's/50's/60's etc) didn't go away.

Overall, I wish they'd kept XCountry and the rest I'm ambivelant about.

What I'm pissed about is the loss of XCountry and the "gain" of Outlaw Country. What a joke! Xcountry was far superior and didn't have the likes of semi-talent Mojo Nixon who apparently can't speak a sentence without dropping f-bombs every other word.

I'm glad of the addition of stations like Margaritaville, and am VERY glad Bluesville didn't go away. I'm ambivelant about The Vault v. Deep Tracks since I listened to both, but somewhat prefer Deep Tracks. I'm also glad the era specific stations (40's/50's/60's etc) didn't go away.

Overall, I wish they'd kept XCountry and the rest I'm ambivelant about.
Plus 1 on all of the above

I am soooooooooo pissed, the vast majority of the XM channels my family loved are now gone:

Fungus - my wife and I are ~40, we are old school punks. Losing this station was like a punch in the nuts, the "Bam Magera" channel is a sad substitute for pikers.

Beyond Jazz - Fun progressive Jazz is necessary to keep the youngsters interested, how else am I supposed to convince my kids Jazz isn't elderly music?

Chrome - What can I say, I grew up in the 70's, for me it is a vital guilty pleasure!

It seems the only channel I like that they will bring back is "Boneyard"

WTF? Does anyone really want to hear 24 hour stations of bands???
AC/DC This band died when Bon Scott did.
Jimmy Buffet Parents who listen to this crap are the reason thier kids turn around and listen to Satanic Death Metal and huff solvents.
Grateful Dead uh, yeah, right, these people listen to the Radio? Haven't they shunned all worldly possesions? Shouldn't they be out on the ocean saving whales, or in some far off rainforest, or protesting somewhere?
Led Zeppelin Decent music, but I thought most people heard enough of them at every high school or college party they went to?
Bruce Springsteen same answer as Jimmy Buffet.
Jam On Same answer as grateful dead.

Wow, I loved XM and had three subscriptions. I am seriously considering cancelling it, and just wiring my FiOS box to listen to "music choice" or whatever... SHEESH!!! What a way to ruin a good thing...

Bam margera is only good when he's getting his @$$ stomped on jackass.
Don't mind AC/DC so much having a station. I still think they have good music.
Jimmy Buffet sounds like a guitar instructor.
Grateful dead??? Those people can't even afford radios when blowing all their money on weed and acid. Hippies...HA!

Tell em Fred... Hooo hooo.

Bam margera is only good when he's getting his @$$ stomped on jackass.
Don't mind AC/DC so much having a station. I still think they have good music.
Jimmy Buffet sounds like a guitar instructor.
Grateful dead??? Those people can't even afford radios when blowing all their money on weed and acid. Hippies...HA!

That's a good one: "Buffet" sounds like a (bad) guitar instructor
Now that you mention it, he does remind me of the guy who taught me to play acoustic guitar when I was 8... "OK kids, now we are gonna play a really rockin version of Do You Know The Muffin Man! Super!"
Buffet is like Raffi for adult dweebs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raffi_(musician)

Anyhow, "Brandon", I like the way you think. Maybe you should visit us at my other favorite website forum: http://www.crazyamerica.org/pit/

Imagine our surprise when we heard Rick Dees instead. OMG, did people actually listen to this crap back in the 80s? I know I never did. I mean I guess it's entertaining if your idea of entertainment is lame sound effects, stupid jokes, and "celebrity" impersonations. But the Nina Blackwood show was about nothing but the music. We just can't believe that they took a live show off to put this junk on. Airing a rerun of a 25 year-old show is cheaper than paying a live performer. And yes, I listened to Rick Dees Top 40 back in high school. Also Shadow Stevens. I enjoyed listening to the countdowns.

Anyway, no complaints here. I'm still waiting for the A La Carte radio. $6 for ~30 music channels plus a few news/talk channels sounds like a good deal to me.

I'm glad the merger happened because NO WAY was I going to pay $13 a month when I can get ~15 stations free locally. But $6? That's reasonable.

No.. Sirius was in more financial trouble then XM. Sirius bought XM, plain and simple. How you can conclude XM was in better shape is amazing... Is that what Howie told you:rolleyes: Apparently "fanboys" aren't limited to just gaming consoles. "Xbox is better!" "No PS3 is better!" Well the facts show that XM was deeper in debt than Sirius so they merged, similar to how UPN and WB merged to form CW. It was either combine forces or die.

XM - 2.1 billion debt; 10 million customers
SIRIUS - 1.3 billion debt; 9 million customers

XM was the company that was sinking faster (like UPN), and it was Sirius that was in better shape (like WB). The good news is that, just as the UPN/WB produced a stronger company, so too does the Sirius XM merger. They were able to cut almost 0.5 billion in operating costs. According to analysts they will be profitable in two years time (mid- 2010).

Primary Source - http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2008/07/29/2008-07-29_debt_and_programming_challenge_combined_.html

I know I wont get much sympathy here for this gripe...........I miss The beat that was replaced by BPM. BPM sounds just like Area. The Beat was current top 40 remixed / extended versions.

Apparently "fanboys" aren't limited to just gaming consoles. "Xbox is better!" "No PS3 is better!" Well the facts show that XM was deeper in debt than Sirius so they merged, similar to how UPN and WB merged to form CW. It was either combine forces or die.

XM - 2.1 billion debt; 10 million customers
SIRIUS - 1.3 billion debt; 9 million customers

XM was the company that was sinking faster (like UPN), and it was Sirius that was in better shape (like WB). The good news is that, just as the UPN/WB produced a stronger company, so too does the Sirius XM merger. They were able to cut almost 0.5 billion in operating costs. According to analysts they will be profitable in two years time (mid- 2010).

Primary Source - http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2008/07/29/2008-07-29_debt_and_programming_challenge_combined_.htmlIf preferring programing on one platform vs. another or calling out someone for just regurgitating what an extremely biased radio host has to say makes you a fanboy then I am guilty as charged.

That's a good one: "Buffet" sounds like a (bad) guitar instructor
Now that you mention it, he does remind me of the guy who taught me to play acoustic guitar when I was 8... "OK kids, now we are gonna play a really rockin version of Do You Know The Muffin Man! Super!"
Buffet is like Raffi for adult dweebs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raffi_(musician)

Anyhow, "Brandon", I like the way you think. Maybe you should visit us at my other favorite website forum www.crazyamerica.org
I can vouch for his other site:D He is only a part time stalker;)

Apparently "fanboys" aren't limited to just gaming consoles. "Xbox is better!" "No PS3 is better!" Well the facts show that XM was deeper in debt than Sirius so they merged, similar to how UPN and WB merged to form CW. It was either combine forces or die.

XM - 2.1 billion debt; 10 million customers
SIRIUS - 1.3 billion debt; 9 million customers

XM was the company that was sinking faster (like UPN), and it was Sirius that was in better shape (like WB). The good news is that, just as the UPN/WB produced a stronger company, so too does the Sirius XM merger. They were able to cut almost 0.5 billion in operating costs. According to analysts they will be profitable in two years time (mid- 2010).

Primary Source - http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2008/07/29/2008-07-29_debt_and_programming_challenge_combined_.html

It's a little more complicated then that.

To 'try' and pay down their debts Sirius also kept selling shares of their stock until they had over 1.3 billion outstanding shares. XM had about 300-400 million outstanding shares. Which is why XM stock was worth more per share. When a company keeps diluting it's shares to try and pay it's bills that's not a good sign either.

Anyway I'd be happy as hell if SiriusXM is profitable in 2 years. But with the state of the economy and all this gloom news lately I highly doubt it.

I mean lets be realistic here. I've been hearing 'we're/they're going to be profitable next year BS for 5 years now.

Apparently "fanboys" aren't limited to just gaming consoles. "Xbox is better!" "No PS3 is better!" Well the facts show that XM was deeper in debt than Sirius so they merged, similar to how UPN and WB merged to form CW. It was either combine forces or die.

XM - 2.1 billion debt; 10 million customers
SIRIUS - 1.3 billion debt; 9 million customers

XM was the company that was sinking faster (like UPN), and it was Sirius that was in better shape (like WB). The good news is that, just as the UPN/WB produced a stronger company, so too does the Sirius XM merger. They were able to cut almost 0.5 billion in operating costs. According to analysts they will be profitable in two years time (mid- 2010).

Primary Source - http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2008/07/29/2008-07-29_debt_and_programming_challenge_combined_.html

The real issue is not about which was financially the better one, it is about the nearly complete decimation of the programming from XM and the use of "celebrity" as the focus. Xm was focused upon the music with a larger and deeper play list. Sirius on the other had utilizes a smaller shallower play list and personalities as the draw.
I have had both for many years so it easy to compare.

Look, XM failed, and was purchased by Sirius. If all those XM channels were so great, maybe it would have gone the other way. But it didn't.

And now the combined company will likely fail unless they pull a rabbit out of a hat.

Would you rather have any satellite radio company, or no satellite radio company?

You're not entitled to anything. This is the company, this is what they chose to do. And most likely it was due to listenership of the stations you all are complaining about losing.

They aren't going to bring back stations virtually no one listened to. The 3 people who complain about a barely listened to station also will make no difference. If your response is to cancel your subscription, that seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Satellite radio is still far superior to the alternatives.

Let me guess. Republican, right?

Let me guess. Republican, right?

You actually registered with this forum to make that your first post? Wow.

You actually registered with this forum to make that your first post? Wow.

No - I registered with this forum Board because I am concerned over changes made in the XM/Sirius switchover.

However, I could not help but notice your post to which I responded with the question I will now ask again:

Let me guess. Republican, right?

No - I registered with this forum Board because I am concerned over changes made in the XM/Sirius switchover.

However, I could not help but notice your post to which I responded with the question I will now ask again:

Let me guess. Republican, right?

Wow, second post almost as good as the first. (It's funny how you simpletons confuse capitalism, and conversely socialism, with political parties.)

And your third post is about the "Broadway" channel. I won't even bother asking about you... Lemme guess - favorite actress is 'Barbra Streisand' or 'Judy Garland'? :rolleyes:;)

Wow, second post almost as good as the first. (It's funny how you simpletons confuse capitalism, and conversely socialism, with political parties.)

And your third post is about the "Broadway" channel. I won't even bother asking about you... Lemme guess - favorite actress is 'Barbra Streisand' or 'Judy Garland'? :rolleyes:;)

I thought so. Hope you enjoy the next 8 years. :D

Wow, second post almost as good as the first. (It's funny how you simpletons confuse capitalism, and conversely socialism, with political parties.)

And your third post is about the "Broadway" channel. I won't even bother asking about you... Lemme guess - favorite actress is 'Barbra Streisand' or 'Judy Garland'? :rolleyes:;)

First I will say I'm laughing so hard I'm nearly falling in the floor. I agree with abmagfab, and I am a republican myself. But to put things into perspective we are getting a little off base here. I personally want this thread to help a situation that it seems no one is happy with. If we continue going back and forth over this "who was better" we won't get anywhere. That's my single view from the left. Now let's all hug. This will be my contribution to the fairness doctrine.

Oh, and Sirius was and is better. End of story.

First I will say I'm laughing so hard I'm nearly falling in the floor. I agree with abmagfab, and I am a republican myself. But to put things into perspective we are getting a little off base here. I personally want this thread to help a situation that it seems no one is happy with. If we continue going back and forth over this "who was better" we won't get anywhere. That's my single view from the left. Now let's all hug. This will be my contribution to the fairness doctrine.

Oh, and Sirius was and is better. End of story.

Is? You're right we have gotten off base. There IS no more IS concerning XM or Sirius. ;)

First I will say I'm laughing so hard I'm nearly falling in the floor. I agree with abmagfab, and I am a republican myself.

You really don't have any idea why I asked that question, do you?

Wow, second post almost as good as the first. (It's funny how you simpletons confuse capitalism, and conversely socialism, with political parties.)

And your third post is about the "Broadway" channel. I won't even bother asking about you... Lemme guess - favorite actress is 'Barbra Streisand' or 'Judy Garland'? :rolleyes:;)Not that there's anything wrong with that.....
I've gotta go with AbMagFab on this, no need to bring politics into this.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.....
I've gotta go with AbMagFab on this, no need to bring politics into this.

I'm sorry - I come from an intense, political Board and I guess it hasn't worn off yet. I don't know, there was just something so "Republican" about AbMag's original response, I just couldn't resist.

Anyway - apologies for the blatant hijack. Back to business.

Tell em Fred... Hooo hooo.


To be fair Pat maybe you should call out this
yodel...
who seems to pop up on every full moon;)

With the loss of the Vault:( replaced by deeptracks:( can anyone tell me what to expect from Boneyard?

Tell em Fred... Hooo hooo.

Hey, knock it off.:)

I'm sorry - I come from an intense, political Board and I guess it hasn't worn off yet. I don't know, there was just something so "Republican" about AbMag's original response, I just couldn't resist.

Anyway - apologies for the blatant hijack. Back to business.

No problem you bleeding heart liberal.:D

You really don't have any idea why I asked that question, do you?

Actually I DO!!! The previous comment obviously made sense. Being this is something "odd" (rational thought) the only solution you could draw from it is his comment must be an opposing view. I guess while we're at the talk of the merge of sirius and xm, I guess the government should buy it, run it just like fannie, freddie, social security, medicare, and the VA hospitals so we can all enjoy censor free no commercial interruption music stations for ~a week before it's run into the ground.

Enjoy your single term.

That's it, no more politics. 5 years I've been on this forum and never have I got into a political discussion and I hope it's longer till the next one. I like to keep my girlfriend (Home theater) seperate from my wife (politics).

Now, all that would of the way, PDMike, I have several liberal friends who I can get along with in other areas. I think I can do the same with you when it comes to audio video stuff. What do you say? Handshake? (at least until next election)

Airing a rerun of a 25 year-old show is cheaper than paying a live performer. And yes, I listened to Rick Dees Top 40 back in high school. Also Shadow Stevens. I enjoyed listening to the countdowns.

Anyway, no complaints here. I'm still waiting for the A La Carte radio. $6 for ~30 music channels plus a few news/talk channels sounds like a good deal to me.

I'm glad the merger happened because NO WAY was I going to pay $13 a month when I can get ~15 stations free locally. But $6? That's reasonable.Well listen to the 80s at 8 on Saturday mornings and relive the good old days... ;) They also have Casey on Sunday. Now I wouldn't mind listening to those again. I listened to Casey a lot in the early 80s.

Hey, knock it off.:)


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now can anyone tell me what to expect from Boneyard.

What's there to be "pissed" about?

Agreed. I've had XM for almost 2 years, and the changes are fantastic. Double the rock choices and increased choices in other genres like talk. I guess it's a generation gap thing (I'm 43), but rather than complain, I'd write to express my appreciation for the great changes.

Agreed. I've had XM for almost 2 years, and the changes are fantastic. Double the rock choices and increased choices in other genres like talk. I guess it's a generation gap thing (I'm 43), but rather than complain, I'd write to express my appreciation for the great changes.
You should start a thread:

Happy about the changes? Let you voice be heard. ;)

Having a poll might prove interesting:

1. Had XM - Happy with changes
2. Had XM - Unhappy with changes
3. Had Sirius - Happy with changes
4. Had Sirius - Unhappy with changes
5. What changes?

Something like that. :)

With the loss of the Vault:( replaced by deeptracks:( can anyone tell me what to expect from Boneyard?

BoneYard is essentially based on "1980's Arena Hard Rock". That being said, it is a fairly wide spectrum. Everything from rock like VH to metal veined Metallica type stuff, with a bunch of the heavier hair/glam bands peppered in for good measure. They also feature a lot of obsucre acts that might be considered to be more 70's stuff, but fall into that hard/heavy genre; bands that most people would say "wow, I totally forgot about them!". Basically, if you were a fan of 80's "heavy" music you will like it; I listen to it every night while cooking dinner. The cool thing is that they play both the "classic" cuts from the bands, and occasionally "new releases" from the guys whos careers would are now obscure; very cool becuase they would otherwise not get any airplay for the new stuff now. On Mondays they have the "Eddie Trunk Live" show, which is really great.

I hope that helps, let me know if youhave any questions.

Now, all that would of the way, PDMike, I have several liberal friends who I can get along with in other areas. I think I can do the same with you when it comes to audio video stuff. What do you say? Handshake? (at least until next election)

Of course. I do apologize for infusing politics here. Inappropriate. :(

BoneYard is essentially based on "1980's Arena Hard Rock". That being said, it is a fairly wide spectrum. Everything from rock like VH to metal veined Metallica type stuff, with a bunch of the heavier hair/glam bands peppered in for good measure. They also feature a lot of obsucre acts that might be considered to be more 70's stuff, but fall into that hard/heavy genre; bands that most people would say "wow, I totally forgot about them!". Basically, if you were a fan of 80's "heavy" music you will like it; I listen to it every night while cooking dinner. The cool thing is that they play both the "classic" cuts from the bands, and occasionally "new releases" from the guys whos careers would are now obscure; very cool becuase they would otherwise not get any airplay for the new stuff now. On Mondays they have the "Eddie Trunk Live" show, which is really great.

I hope that helps, let me know if youhave any questions.



thanks-

that helps.

I'm sorry - I come from an intense, political Board and I guess it hasn't worn off yet.

"JmikeF"??? is that you???

If so, "The Pit" has missed you, this is our new home:
http://www.crazyamerica.org/pit/

I am not happy either!! We were told that XM/Sirius merger would not affect us in Canada but guess what, it did!! They have merged some of the country channels and we have lost the best one on XM (channel 10 called America) but the stupid roadhouse from Sirius who plays nothing but garbage! Why could they leave all the channels available and give the choice to the people as to what we wanted to listen! They have just lost another customer...make that alot more customers!

I will be calling and complaining thats for sure....

Soul Town sucks, with the new female DJ's all you hear is gab,gab,gab :rolleyes:bring back Soul Street :mad: at least they didn't rape Watercolors or The Groove :rolleyes:

Couple of annoying things (I am a long-time XM subscriber):
Loss of Fine Tuning
VOX replaced by old MET broadcasts - I really enjoyed the live opera broadcasts from various theaters around the world like Covennt Garden, La Scala, Chicago, L.A., Houston, Bayreuth. Now it's nothing but MET stuff.

I am especially annoyed by the lack of an a la carte option. The offer of an a la carte option was an integral part of the FCC's approval of the merger. I called the other day to get it and they said there was no such option available. I asked to cancel and wound up getting the $77/year plan. Problem solved.

I posted here a few pages back about being unhappy with the censorship on the hip hop channels since the merger. Got a response email today from Jon Zellner:

Thank you for your email. Censorship is an important issue to us as a company. Over the years we have offered a home for free speech to musicians, DJs, athletes, and talk hosts – and that heritage continues today.



Three channels on our services -- Sirius Hits 1, XM 20 on 20 and The Heat -- are listened to by a wide range of ages, including children. As a result, we play the versions of certain songs that have been created, approved, and provided to Sirius XM by the label and artist.



Now, for Hot Jamz listeners, whose new radio home is The Heat, this is a change. After considering feedback from XM subscribers who listened to The Heat, we felt that it was important to maintain an R&B Hits channel that families could feel comfortable with. Accordingly, we have substituted the version of certain songs on that channel that have been created, approved, and provided by the label and artist.



All other Sirius XM music channels play the fully uncensored versions of songs in their libraries.



Thank you again for your email and feedback; it helps to ensure we’re providing our subscribers with the best possible service.



Best regards,



Jon



Jon Zellner

Senior Vice President

Music Programming

Sirius XM Radio

1500 Eckington Place NE

I am totally upset about the loss of the NBA to people who already paid SIRIUS to have it...now they want more money and want to sell you new radios to get it.

OUTRAGEOUS!

Just found out that maxim radio was replaced by Stars 2. Horrible.

It was mentioned on the Stern show last week by Howard. And Jamie Foxx on his comedy channel echoed the same thing.

I listen to every minute of every show and he never said Sirius told him to clean up his act. He was responding to some listener emails complaining that he was cursing too much and he couldn't listen at work.

All other Sirius XM music channels play the fully uncensored versions of songs in their libraries.

That's not the case as of late this afternoon. Lithium 24 is still censored. Are any of the other channels that were censored now not?

Endaar

I'm disappointed by the loss of the only 3 Sirius channels I listened to. I'm stunned that it's such a clean sweep.

Left of center
The beat
Punk channel

I really think that the variety they had previously was a strength, now they seem to really emphasize rock to such a degree that my free local radio stations aren't too far off.

The more I listen to the music channels, the more I just cannot believe the way they went about these changes. Makes you wonder if they did any VOC throughout the process or if they just figured they knew best. Had they actually talked to customers, I think they would have found out that there was a happy medium somewhere between the XM and Sirius programing that would have offered improvements for both sides instead of having 75% of people pissed off. As an XM subscriber I liked the depth of playlists, however, at times I believe they went too deep and some channels would have benefitted from ratcheting back a notch on the obscurity level. I have to believe that most Sirius subscribers would honestly say that Sirius programming does not go deep enough and is too repetitive. Also, I have to believe that most of us would agree that we could do with a lot less of their idiot DJs singing and talking over the music. Seems like the perfect plan would have been to meet somewhere in the middle and make both sides happy.

This is funny, or annoying, depending on how you look at it:
After only a few days of the new changes, my 8yo daughter has already begun to memorize the days and times they rotate the new insipid playlists; she says things like "Daddy, at 7pm on Tuesday and Thursday they played this song". A fringe benefit of having a child with Aspergers...

XM didn't randomly delete channels from the program guide to offer 6 Holiday channels.

With this merger, we've slowly got 3 Holiday channels and have lost important stations like Cinemagic. :mad:

what amazes me is how iv heard online for over a year how Deep Tracks kicks ass over the Vault. from XMers of course.

well deep tracks blows and im so disapointed in it.

Did the Vault follow the strategy of channels such as, Lithium and 1st Wave heavily favoring certain artists repeating their top 40 hits over and over?

XM sub since they first hit the scene, and I've listened to XM comedy since day one.

Ever since the merger, it appears they've slimmed their artist lineup and I'm hearing a lot of repeated bits throughout the day - to me, unacceptable. Not to mention the blast of penis-enlargement ads, hair ads, colon cleanse ads. XM was bad about this, and you think it would let up a bit with the merger, but it's full steam ahead.

The Ethel change made me simply delete that channel from my favs. My mom was really upset that Cinemagic is off the air for even a few weeks, but glad it will be returning.

At least they didn't get rid of Zoltar on The System (great dance / trance / house / etc) and XM Chill. And Sonny on XM Comedy 150 will always keep me listening to that channel, even if the ads are horrendous.

Did the Vault follow the strategy of channels such as, Lithium and 1st Wave heavily favoring certain artists repeating their top 40 hits over and over?Not really. They might not have had as "deep" a playlist as Deep Tracks, but then, in order to constantly dig up enough to keep that depth, a lot of what DT plays, I consider kind of lame at times. The big difference, I guess, is that when I used to listen to DT in my buddy's car, we often turned it off because the song would sometimes really suck. It might have been super-obscure, but what good is that if it's terrible? In contrast, I honestly don't ever recall turning The Vault off because I didn't like something they were playing - even when it was something I wasn't familiar with. I guess their "tastes" just ran closer to mine.

I used to listen a lot late at night and during the overnight hours, and they played a lot of what I thought was non-typical, cool stuff then (a lot of non-mainstream Progressive Rock, which I happen to like a lot). The daytime might've been a little more mainstream - I'm not really sure because I didn't listen much then. But they definitely did not play any heavy concentration of "Top 40"-type stuff, even then. I know what you mean by those other channels playing certain newer songs a little too repetitively, and they definitely didn't do that, because they weren't really about "newer" music anyway.

As far as the Classic Rock bands, they tended to play their "non-hit" material more often than not.

As far as the Classic Rock bands, they tended to play their "non-hit" material more often than not.



Thanks-

Deep Tracks plays music from bands iv never heard of.
and yes, the song being played
usually sucks-

But they definitely did not play any heavy concentration of "Top 40"-type stuff, even then. I know what you mean by those other channels playing certain newer songs a little too repetitively, and they definitely didn't do that, because they weren't really about "newer" music anyway.

As far as the Classic Rock bands, they tended to play their "non-hit" material more often than not.Deeeptracks is what it is, non-hit cuts from bands that were relevant at that particular time. Sounds like the Vault listeners have a legitimate gripe in that DT does not provide a substitution for what they were listening to. The problem with the the two channels I referred to is that they are not playing newer music either, it is late 70s, and 80s for 1st Wave and 90s for Lithium. I cannot believe with that span of time they can't go 3 days without repeating songs 2 and sometimes 3 times. And while I'm ranting, someone please tell the programers on 1st Wave that the Culture Club/Boy George is not alternative music, (alternative lifestyle..definitely but not alternative music).

Thanks-

Deep Tracks plays music from bands iv never heard of.
and yes, the song being played
usually sucks-

I remember when some dope tried to convince this forum that the follwoing list of songs was off Deeptracks. Do you remember who that was Mercury?:D

Led Zeppelin
Ten Years Gone
Led Zeppelin
Kashmir
Led Zeppelin
All My Love
Led Zeppelin
Over The Hills
Led Zeppelin
Thank You
Led Zeppelin
D'Yer Mak'Er
Pink Floyd
Time
Pink Floyd
Money
Pink Floyd
Run Like Hell
Pink Floyd
The Show Must Go
Pink Floyd
Hey You
Pink Floyd
Us Them
Aerosmith
Cryin'
Aerosmith
Draw The Line
Aerosmith
Helter Skelter
Aerosmith
Train Kept A Rol
Aerosmith
Big Ten Inch Rec
Aerosmith
Walkin The Dog

I remember when some dope tried to convince this forum that the follwoing list of songs was off Deeptracks. Do you remember who that was Mercury?:D

Led Zeppelin
Ten Years Gone
Led Zeppelin
Kashmir
Led Zeppelin
All My Love
Led Zeppelin
Over The Hills
Led Zeppelin
Thank You
Led Zeppelin
D'Yer Mak'Er
Pink Floyd
Time
Pink Floyd
Money
Pink Floyd
Run Like Hell
Pink Floyd
The Show Must Go
Pink Floyd
Hey You
Pink Floyd
Us Them
Aerosmith
Cryin'
Aerosmith
Draw The Line
Aerosmith
Helter Skelter
Aerosmith
Train Kept A Rol
Aerosmith
Big Ten Inch Rec
Aerosmith
Walkin The Dog


Are you calling me a dope;)

Oh! ya! i do remember posting that. i also remember failing to mention these un-jems that deep track plays.

You Can't Go Back - Patti Scialfa (LP/2004)
You Never Can Tell - Chuck Berry (14/1964
You Told Me That You Loved Me - Tommy Bolin (LP/1976)
Yours Truly Confused - Jools Holland/Ray Davies (LP/2002)
The Final Stroke - Ilúvatar (LP/1999)
Teaser - Tommy Bolin (LP/1975
Summertime Blues - Blue Cheer (14/1968)
Reflections Of My Life - Marmalade (10/1970)



just not my cup of tea.

what ever after today Sirius can go **** themselves. Bubba was the last thing I was holding onto and they have let him go.

Put on Outlaw and it was not bad till Mojo's shift started. First thing out of his mouth is about the sound of the George Jones's voice making his penis enlarge:eek:

I just backspin back. I don't listen to much other than what has been taken. I They took both away from Sirius and XM. I hate country music. sorry to those that love it lol. I don't need 20 different rock stations.

The censorship thing is big thing for me because i like hearing music in its raw uncut form. Bleeping out music sound stupid as well, Besides they always promoted uncensored music. It may sound stupid but if i want to hear censored music i would play the regular radio which is what i do know alot.

I just want a oldschool station on. Regular radio dose not play this kind of music anymore especially where i live. If i lived in NYC it would be a little different.

They should not have did what they did on their own without customer input, altho i know in big business its how it goes anyways. They need to make money too which i understand but at this rate they wont have any people listening.

Satellite radio was once a great thing, now it just like the rest of radio but worse since we are paying to get this service. Its not just Sirius listeners but both that are getting subpar service.

This is just my opinion too.

And there is always someone to complain about anything...

It's all just music, Johnny Cash or Clint Black, The Beatles or the Monkeys, Led Zeppelin or Twisted Sister, and thoughtful commentors or, uh, you.

UPDATE: Hmm, interesting. They actually answered my e-mail. Not only that, it was an actual response (not just some form letter); as he addresses the specific channels I was pissed about! see below.
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Dear W....,

Thanks for the e-mail.

I do appreciate hearing from you and empathize with your situation. I also recognize the fact that you're passionate about music. I am as well.

We are starting a weekly modern jazz show on REAL JAZZ and have two great classic dance shows on our decades channels; radio legend Joe Causi hosts a disco show on 70S ON 7 and Denny Terrio hosts a dance show on 80S ON 8. I know this is small consolation when you miss a channel, but I wanted to at least let you know about this programming.

While I can’t guarantee the return of FUNGUS, I can let you know that XM introduced a new channel called FACTION, which plays much of the music heard on FUNGUS, including a show hosted by Marky Ramone. We’re also hoping to move “Rancid Radio” as well as other long form shows from FUNGUS to this new channel. You can check out Faction on XM 52.

The fact is that the decision to pre-empt or discontinue a channel is never easy. We struggle with these challenges on a daily basis because of the limited space on the network. If space wasn't an issue, we'd offer hundreds of more channels covering every musical genre imaginable. The challenge with FUNGUS is that it was consistently one of the lowest performing music channels on the network. That doesn't mean the channel didn't have fans or that it wasn't great (I actually listened to FUNGUS quite a bit and my son did as well), but as our subscriber base grows to nearly 40 million listeners, channels that reach smaller audiences become harder to justify.

Again, thank you for writing. I'm sorry you're unhappy with the decision and I hope you'll stick around as a subscriber or check out all the new music channels available now. You can go to www.xmradio.com/newlineup to download the new channel guide. Your comments and feedback about our programming is always welcome and appreciated.

Best regards,

Jon

Jon Zellner

Senior Vice President

Music Programming

Sirius XM Radio

1500 Eckington Place NE

Washington, DC 20002

http://www.siriuslyscrewed.com/

I mean lets be realistic here. I've been hearing 'we're/they're going to be profitable next year BS for 5 years now. I heard the same from UPN and WB for years, but now that they've merged into a single network, they are finally earning a profit.

Hopefully the same will be true with the XM and Sirius merge.