Hi!
For starter I hope you understand what I'm writing my enlish isent so good.

I got a Panasonic PX80 and a Pioneer DV-410V-S DVD player.
I have hooked the DVD with a HDMI cable to my PX80.
I got the resulution on 720P on the DVD.


When I gonna calibreat the dvd against DVE I can't make the DVD to show WTW or BTB or 2% black.

I have read that I shod not change the settings in the DVD.

But to make 2% black visible I need to change Brightness to +2 on the DVD.


My quastion is:
Can I get a good picture without BTB or WTW?
I can make WTW and BTB visible but if I want that I need to change settings in the DVD.
And I need to change it to:
Brightness: +3
Contrast: -3


So I wonder if I shood make BTB and WTW visible or shod I just make the 2% black visible?

On the swedish forum ppl say that I shod not play with the settings in the DVD player.
And if I must play with the settings I shood do that as little as possible and just make the 2% black visible.


And now I want to hear what you english speaking ppl have to say about it.


Regards
Robin Sandberg

I agree with your countrymen, do not adjust the DVD settings. Some displays just cant do Blacker than Black or Whiter than white. This is where Gamma adjustments come into play. But some displays do not have any Gamma .You will have to make due with the controls you have.

Athanasios

I agree with your countrymen, do not adjust the DVD settings. Some displays just cant do Blacker than Black or Whiter than white. This is where Gamma adjustments come into play. But some displays do not have any Gamma .You will have to make due with the controls you have.

Athanasios

Hi!
First, thanks for your answere I appreciate it.

I know for a fact that the PX80 dont cut the BTB or WTW.
So I know that its my player.
I have just change the brigthness on my dvd player to +2 so I can see 2% black level pile.

I calibrate my TV ín darkness because I watch movies in darkness I just got a street light who shine in to my livingroom.
I hope thats right?


And now when I calibrate the TV with DVE I get this results on my TV:
Note that I just change the brightness settings in my DVD to +2 so I can see the 2% black level pile.

Viewing Mode: Cinema
Contrast: 5 clicks left
Brightness: 1 click left
Colour: 3 clicks right
Sharpness: 1 click left
Colour Balance: Warm


HDTVtest.org.uk got this results for there PX80:

Viewing Mode: Cinema
Contrast: 2 clicks left
Brightness: 1 click left
Colour: 3 clicks right
Sharpness: 1 click left
Colour Balance: Warm


And before I fixed 2% black level I got

Viewing Mode: Cinema
Contrast: 16 clicks left
Brightness: 1 click left
Colour: 2 clicks right
Sharpness: 1 click left
Colour Balance: Warm




As you see I just have 5 clicks left on contrast now.
So I think I got the right settings now :)



I know that I can't take HDTVtest.org.uks settings to my TV.
But I can compare the settings I think because I have read that if I got the same display the settings shod be similar right?


Did I make the right choice when I change the brightness settings to +2 on my DVD player so I can see the 2% black level pile?


Regards
Robin Sandberg

As far as I know, the Pioneer DVD players with Mediatek 1389 chips needs to be
adjusted in order to distinguish between Blacker-Than-Black and Video-Black and
also Video-White and Whiter-Than-White when using HDMI.
On my Pioneer DV-600, I had Brightness +2 and Contrast -2,
the HDMI Colour set to "Component" and a modified firmware to allow
Blacker-Than-Black handling.

Hi!
For starter I hope you understand what I'm writing my enlish isent so good.

I got a Panasonic PX80 and a Pioneer DV-410V-S DVD player.
I have hooked the DVD with a HDMI cable to my PX80.
I got the resulution on 720P on the DVD.


When I gonna calibreat the dvd against DVE I can't make the DVD to show WTW or BTB or 2% black.

I have read that I shod not change the settings in the DVD.

But to make 2% black visible I need to change Brightness to +2 on the DVD.


My quastion is:
Can I get a good picture without BTB or WTW?
I can make WTW and BTB visible but if I want that I need to change settings in the DVD.
And I need to change it to:
Brightness: +3
Contrast: -3


So I wonder if I shood make BTB and WTW visible or shod I just make the 2% black visible?

On the swedish forum ppl say that I shod not play with the settings in the DVD player.
And if I must play with the settings I shood do that as little as possible and just make the 2% black visible.


And now I want to hear what you english speaking ppl have to say about it.


Regards
Robin Sandberg

http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/calibrate-your-system/hdmi-black-levels-xvycc-rgb

Luckily for us - the net result is that these settings aren't all that hard to get right after all. Here are a few things to keep in mind, however:


Standard definition DVDs, Blu-ray discs and HD signals are all YCbCr 16-235 range native. Always set your source to YCbCr mode (not RGB) when calibrating your black and white levels on your display.
Some AV receivers may not pass anything except 16-235 via HDMI. This means that if you are setting your source to RGB (0-255) you may get your black and white levels truncated.
xvYCC is significant ONLY if all components in the chain support xvYCC. Do not utilize this setting on any component unless everything else can fall into place. Once set, xvYCC should override and RGB or YCbCr settings.


The general rule - the takeaway for this entire article is this:


First, set your source components to output YCbCr if there is an option. Second, get a test disc that has a Blacker-than-Black pattern (AVIA Pro, Digital Video Essentials, any THX DVD with THX Optimizer, etc) and ensure that you can see blacker-than-black on your display. Third, switch your display's HDMI setting from 'Normal' to 'Enhanced' if you do not see the Blacker-than-Black pattern. As long as you can see a below black signal, you are more than likely set up to get the best possible dynamic range from your display. Your final step in resolving this issue should be to set the correct black and white levels.


Again - make sure you can see below black levels in your system, and then calibrate your display to set your black and white levels. This should allow you to enjoy the full benefits of your display and get the most dynamic range out of your DVDs.