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geekgirrl 11-18-08, 09:02 PM Does anyone even make a dvd player and recorder in one box?
A machine that would have two drawers. One for the blank disc and one for the disc you want to copy?
Plus I would like it to be something that would sit by my tv to record and play as well.
In my searching I've yet to find anything except products that are more like computers. Ideally I would like it to be region free but I just need to find one first.
Thanks.
Rammitinski 11-18-08, 09:03 PM If anyone ever made one it probably would've been Go-Video.
Does anyone even make a dvd player and recorder in one box?
A machine that would have two drawers. One for the blank disc and one for the disc you want to copy?
Plus I would like it to be something that would sit by my tv to record and play as well.
In my searching I've yet to find anything except products that are more like computers. Ideally I would like it to be region free but I just need to find one first.
Thanks.
My Dell computer (circa 2005) had those pieces of hardware but the ATI analog tuner was so bad I pulled it out and tossed it. If I need to copy a DVD that's a simple procedure on the Dell.
I have a Philips 3575 that dubs to and from the hard drive and has digital and analog tuners.
geekgirrl 11-18-08, 09:19 PM I'm looking at GoVideos recorders but they don't seem to have a homepage. Are they out of business.
I'm thinking it might be easier to buy two units to do this.
- DigaDo I'm looking for a non computer solution. Something that sits on the tv like.
A DVD recorder with a hard disc drive IS the solution. You don't need two drawers for two DVDs. You record the DVD to the HDD, losslessly at high speed, and then dub it to a blank DVD, also at high speed, with no loss. Plus, the DVDR with HDD can do lots more things that a two-drawer model couldn't.
Click #1 in my signature for a couple of HDD DVDRs that would do what you want.
I'm looking at GoVideos recorders but they don't seem to have a homepage. Are they out of business.
I'm thinking it might be easier to buy two units to do this.
- DigaDo I'm looking for a non computer solution. Something that sits on the tv like.
When two units are used the copying process is done in real time. That means that a two hour long DVD will take two hours to copy, etc.
When a two hour long DVD is copied on a computer it may take fifteen minutes.
When a Philips 3575, 3576 or a Magnavox H2160 does a high speed dub from the hard drive to DVD--filling the DVD--it may take twenty minutes or so. With my 3575 I carefully plan recording length(s) and speeds that will give the best picture quality and allow one or more recordings to fit/fill a DVD utilizing the high speed dubbing feature. With these machines one may edit recordings before dubbing to DVD. With Panasonic DVD recorders the Flexible Recording feature makes for easier planning. Panasonic no longer sells hard drive models in the US market.
geekgirrl 11-19-08, 12:19 AM Wow! Thanks!!!
Now I just need to find one that is region free and will burn to dual layer possibly. I'm guessing they would need dual layer if they were to make backups of some discs. Does that type of hard drive DVD player even exist?
Also, are the Philips or Magnavox easy for a non geek person to use? I'm recommending these units to a friend who doesn't want to spend a lot of time messing with all this stuff.
I do all this stuff on my pc but that's not possible for the geek challenged.
Rammitinski 11-19-08, 01:12 AM I'm looking at GoVideos recorders but they don't seem to have a homepage. Are they out of business?Yeah, they are. I don't think they actually ever made one, now that I think of it.
Also, are the Philips or Magnavox easy for a non geek person to use? I'm recommending these units to a friend who doesn't want to spend a lot of time messing with all this stuff.
There is a learning process with these products. User Manuals/Operating Instructions require some study.
I purchased my Philips 3575 in March and I still have much to learn about it.
I purchased my first of several Panasonic DVD recorders and combo recorders in September 2005. I still have much to learn about them, even after heavy use.
Wow! Thanks!!!
Now I just need to find one that is region free and will burn to dual layer possibly. I'm guessing they would need dual layer if they were to make backups of some discs. Does that type of hard drive DVD player even exist?
Also, are the Philips or Magnavox easy for a non geek person to use? I'm recommending these units to a friend who doesn't want to spend a lot of time messing with all this stuff.
I do all this stuff on my pc but that's not possible for the geek challenged.
Very few if any current recorders can be hacked for region free use. You'd need to buy a player only to hack.
AFA dual layer, you know that no DVDR will copy a commercial DVD don't you? Commercial discs are the only ones that are really dual layer, most all home made discs are single layer. With the use of a external filter you can back up commercial discs in realtime but their will be losses.
Bottom line is if your want to copy commercial DL discs losslessly a computer with some kind of hacked software is your only choice. DVDRs are more for copying things off TV and playing back discs.
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Church AV Guy 11-19-08, 01:42 PM Does anyone even make a dvd player and recorder in one box?
A machine that would have two drawers. One for the blank disc and one for the disc you want to copy?
Plus I would like it to be something that would sit by my tv to record and play as well.
In my searching I've yet to find anything except products that are more like computers. Ideally I would like it to be region free but I just need to find one first.
Thanks.
If your intent is to copy disks that do not have copy protection, then there are many solutions available. Duplicators (http://www.supermediastore.com/1-to-1-dvd-duplicators.html) like these are available. They aren't players though. I have one and it works very well, and as you say, it is high speed, so no lossy, real-time transfers. They won't do copy protected disks.
geekgirrl 11-19-08, 03:53 PM So if you had two units (dvd player and a dvd recorder) it would record a commercial disc to the disc in the recorder but at a lower level of quality? This is to make a backup copy of course.
To copy commercial disc you would need a filter. They are between $100-$150. If you do a search on video filters you'll find several threads on them here in the DVDR forum.
Church AV Guy 11-19-08, 06:32 PM So if you had two units (dvd player and a dvd recorder) it would record a commercial disc to the disc in the recorder but at a lower level of quality? This is to make a backup copy of course.
Yes. The quality his you refer to is due to the decoding of the digital material to analog, then passing it through a device that removes the copy restrictions, then encoding it back to digital. "The analog hole!" The quality hit is there, but if you are using good equipment and cables, it's minimal.
But, the audio quality loss isn't minimal. You only get Pro Logic, no DD 5.1, or DTS, etc. A computer with ripping software is really the only way to make good copies of commercial discs.
Some DVDRs will record on +R DL discs. My Pio does. But, it will not make a HS lossless copy of even a +R DL disc. If I have recorded a program into the HDD that is long enough to need a DL disc, I always check the disc thoroughly, before deleting it from the HDD. On some things, I even make two copies. Of course, you have the option of splitting long titles over two discs. These can be copied HS and losslessly, on an HDD DVDR.
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