Hi everyone. Just got an HF11 and shot my son's Navy ceremony. I used Cine Mode, 24p. It plays flawlessly on my 720p tv but when I copied the files over to my pc, the playback on the PC using the software provided makes me dizzy. It looks like the images vibrate alot, streaky, shadowy when the camera is moving/panning. Audio is fine. Any ideas?

PC - dual core 1.8 g, 2 gigs ram, 7950 gt

monitor - samsung 22", 2ms, set at the highest resolution.

Do I need a faster CPU?

Thanks all!

Hi everyone. Just got an HF11 and shot my son's Navy ceremony. I used Cine Mode, 24p. It plays flawlessly on my 720p tv but when I copied the files over to my pc, the playback on the PC using the software provided makes me dizzy. It looks like the images vibrate alot, streaky, shadowy when the camera is moving/panning. Audio is fine. Any ideas?

PC - dual core 1.8 g, 2 gigs ram, 7950 gt

monitor - samsung 22", 2ms, set at the highest resolution.

Do I need a faster CPU?

Thanks all!

Nope your specs should play it fine....DO NOT use the included software...get a Ulead Video Studio type product or something that plays AVCHD natively....

hey, napster...

24p will play fine on TV, but for pc playback you need to do "pulldown removal".
Unless you are willing to purchase software to do this, the free alternative is very involved.

If you don't want to go through any of this, then for future video recordings, set the camera for 30p.
Canon's 24p has a "ghost effect" when played back on a pc, as explained here by video guru Eugenia:

Canon’s consumer HD cameras have 24p support, only that it’s not a… truly true 24p. It’s PF24, which incorporates both progressive and interlaced frames in a 60i stream. To get the pure 24p stream, you need to do a “pulldown removal” (aka “inverse telecine”). PAL users don’t need to do anything special, this burden is only for 24p NTSC users. If your final output is the TV (e.g. via DVD or the camcorder itself), and as long as you never de-interlace that footage, then you don’t need to remove pulldown. But if your output is not a home DVD/TV but professional work, the web, or a PC or other viewing device, then you better get to work and remove pulldown because your footage will have an ugly “ghost” effect whenever there is motion on the screen.

You can see her detailed explanation and solutions here:
http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/01/04/canon-avchd-24p-pulldown-removal/


Again, 24p is not really worth the trouble if you won't be viewing it just on a TV.
You can get a "cinematic" look using 30p + Cinemode just as well - which should cover both TV and pc playback without issue.

You don't "have to" use Cinemode, but this is the reason many people think to use 24p and Cinemode together to get some pseudo-film effect.

Using 30p + other modes is fine, too, and will still give you less troubles in TV or pc.

thanks X....great stuff

this will get rid of the ghosting effect?

awesome, great reply. this forum rocks!

unlike tvs, computers don't care about framerate, so this is a deinterlacing issue... it looks good on the tv because all flat screen tvs use their own deinterlacing hardware, they cannot play back interlaced footage as interlaced.

your pc lcd monitor is similar to your flat screen tv, except that it doesn't have hardware deinterlacing... you need to find a software media player that has good software deinterlacing.

i would try downloading the demo of nero first, see how the footage plays back with the nero showtime player... have you tried shooting in shutter priority mode?

no have not tried shutter priority. will download some trials and see. the ulead vs pro x2 appears to be on sale for 49. thanks.