I need some advice from you guys. I live in Windsor, Ontario, which is on the other side of the Detroit River. Most of the stations that I pick-up over the air, are from Detroit. However, there are still some Canadian ones as well.
Here's my problem. Come Feburary, as everyone knows, I will need an ATSC tuner to pick up any Detroit feeds. However, the stations in Canada will still be running analog for two more years. Will I need both an ATSC and an NTSC tuner to get both the digital and analog channels, or will an ATSC be able to pick up analog as well. Lastly, does anyone know of any DVD recoders or Hard Drive recorders that have what I would need?

Click #1 link in my signature for two units that should do the job nicely... 160GB HDD and NTSC/ATSC/QAM tuners for analog, digital and cable-QAM signals.

Here's my problem. Come Feburary, as everyone knows, I will need an ATSC tuner to pick up any Detroit feeds. However, the stations in Canada will still be running analog for two more years.http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=638769

Note it doesn't say NTSC in the thread title, but the PHD-205 does have it.

I need some advice from you guys. I live in Windsor, Ontario, which is on the other side of the Detroit River. Most of the stations that I pick-up over the air, are from Detroit. However, there are still some Canadian ones as well.
Here's my problem. Come Feburary, as everyone knows, I will need an ATSC tuner to pick up any Detroit feeds. However, the stations in Canada will still be running analog for two more years. Will I need both an ATSC and an NTSC tuner to get both the digital and analog channels, or will an ATSC be able to pick up analog as well. Lastly, does anyone know of any DVD recoders or Hard Drive recorders that have what I would need?

Most TVs sold in the US since mid 2007 have both analog and digital tuners. If you are more concerned about watching US and Canadian TV broadcast stations with an antenna perhaps a friend in Detroit may share a Coupon Eligible Converter Box (CECB) $40 coupon with you. Then you may use that to purchase a converter box in any number of US stores. You should only consider models with analog pass through. These converter boxes have a digital tuner for antenna reception but allow watching analog TV stations through the analog tuner in your present TV.

Many DVD recorders sold in the US have no tuners at all. Tuner equipped DVD recorders sold in the US (beginning in 2007) will have analog and digital tuners. The HDD/DVD recorders Wajo describes in his sticky thread are good choices. Since March I have been using the Philips 3575 and today a new Magnavox H2160 arrived. (I purchased the Philips online from a Philips link and the Magnavox online through a WalMart link, both links found in Wajo's sticky thread.) I also have several 2007 and 2008 model Panasonic DVD recorders that have analog and digital tuners (DMR-EZ17 and DMR-EZ28). If purchased new the Panasonics are overpriced, especially when compared with the hard drive Philips 3575/3576 and Magnavox H2160 models.

The 2 units Wajo mentioned are probably your best bet for new. If you want to go the separates route(maybe already have a older analog DVDR) then that teamed with a $60 CECB would work to get the digitals while the DVDRs internal analog tuner would get the Canadian analog stations.

Thanks for your help guys. I forgot to mention that I want to pick up HD with the tuner as well (I'm aware that I wont be able to record in HD), so I think that the $60 converter box idea wont work. From what I understand, it converts a digital signal back into an analog one, and then routes it through your existing NTSC tuner. I see that all of the new recorders sold in the U.S. now come with an ATSC tuner. Do you know if they all include ATSC as well? Lastly, does anyone know know of a recorder sold in Canada that has both ATSC and NTSC tuners?

You must have missed this link to Canadian sellers (http://hub.pricecanada.com/detail.php?product_id=572607&sku=DVDR3576H) on the 1st page of that link I gave above?

No DVDR sold in North America today can tune HD. They all convert that to 480i SD so they can record that signal, as reqd by the DVD std.

The Philips and Magnavox pass HD thru their coax connection so you can VIEW HD on your TV from the raw signal.

Thanks for your help guys. I forgot to mention that I want to pick up HD with the tuner as well (I'm aware that I wont be able to record in HD), so I think that the $60 converter box idea wont work. From what I understand, it converts a digital signal back into an analog one, and then routes it through your existing NTSC tuner. I see that all of the new recorders sold in the U.S. now come with an ATSC tuner. Do you know if they all include ATSC as well? Lastly, does anyone know know of a recorder sold in Canada that has both ATSC and NTSC tuners?

I'm not sure what you're expecting but any CECB will "pick up" the HD channels but as you said they'll be down converted to SD.
No DVDRs have a HD tuner that will output HD, as Wajo said they'll pass the RF signal through untouched to something like a HD tuner equipped TV downstream but anything actually tuned by a DVDR or CECBs tuner is downconverted.

AFA ATSC, yes any DVDR with a digital tuner would do ASTC as well as QAM for digital(in the clear) cable.

If you really want a true HD tuner to feed a HD equipped TV for example you would have to buy something like the Samsung 260 HD tuner. It outputs HD to component and HDMI and also downconverted SD to it's S-video or composite outputs. Info on it and other true HD tuners can be found in the HDTV Technical forum here on AVS.

If you really want a true HD tuner to feed a HD equipped TV for example you would have to buy something like the Samsung 260 HD tuner.The one I linked to in post #3 is probably the only one still available new that does NTSC as well.

http://www.amazon.com/ATSC-QAM-NTSC-Tuner_Receiver/dp/B000V8XR1U

Better yet:p:D