Hi

I have a Mits 65835 dlp but have not gotten around to
getting my receiver and surround speakers yet. I have
a hd cable box and a blu-ray player connected to the
hdmi ports and just use the tv speaker right now.
Should I wait till I get rest of my setup installed before
getting the set professionally calibrated?

I will eventually have everthing going hdmi through
a receiver and was not sure if I got it calibrated
before I got my receiver that I would have to get
it recalibrated afterwards.

Thanks

See if your local calibrator will get you set up now and schedule a complimentary follow up touch up cal when you get the rest of the system in place. This is something I offer and I know of a few other calibrators that follow this practice as well.

I second what Lee said. I would also offer that if you were in my area.
Also, some receivers are known to alter/degrade the HDMI video, but others (like Pioneer Elite and Denon) are reliable for passing the video accurately. If you get one of the accurate ones then the receiver will have no impact on the calibration as long as it's video scaling is turned off (but even with it on these 2 brands do well at not degrading the signal).

You could also take a look at the Integra/Onkyo receiver line. They have released some new models that now have CMS built in. I think it's an option that we are finally going to start seeing in the food chain. :D

You could also take a look at the Integra/Onkyo receiver line. They have released some new models that now have CMS built in. I think it's an option that we are finally going to start seeing in the food chain. :D
Hmm, that sounds good. The last few high end Onkyo/Integras that I've used have played some games with the color space- changing everything from rec 709 to rec 601 and impacting the color decoding. This happened no matter how it's settings were set.

Joel over at ISF had a lot to do with this. It just makes sense to have this control in an AVR. Everything into the AVR and 1 HDMI cable out to the TV with CMS taken care of.

Greetings

They have grayscale controls ... not CMS ...

Regards

Greetings

They have grayscale controls ... not CMS ...

Regards

Greetings to you,

I stand corrected...it was early when I posted...still a great addition though!!!

Greetings

Now here is some bad news ...

While better than nothing ... the grayscale range provided by the controls on the receiver is no where near as precise as a calibrator would like it. One digit changes here can yield large changes in the grayscale on the display device.

Regards

My choices for an avr are between pioneer elite, denon and onkyo. Is it just the
super high end elites and denon's that pass the siginal without degrading it?

Anyone know of a isf calibrator thats in or near the Lexington/Georgetown Ky
area?

Thanks

My choices for an avr are between pioneer elite, denon and onkyo. Is it just the
super high end elites and denon's that pass the siginal without degrading it?

Anyone know of a isf calibrator thats in or near the Lexington/Georgetown Ky
area?

Thanks

As long as it's a true Elite series, it will pass the HDMI signal stright through without any processing. Like ChadB said, just make sure that the video scaling is turned off. I'm not sure about the Denon's.

My choices for an avr are between pioneer elite, denon and onkyo. Is it just the
super high end elites and denon's that pass the siginal without degrading it?

Anyone know of a isf calibrator thats in or near the Lexington/Georgetown Ky
area?

Thanks
I haven't tested the lower line Pioneer or Denon models. I've tested the mid and higher end from those two, and they've all been good. I have a Pioneer Elite 82TXS which is good. With the Onkyo, it's the opposite: the lower Onkyos are OK, but the high end ones with the Realta chip (or the high end chip they use) mess with the color.
I service your area. I tour all over, but Lexington is actually closer to me than Cleveland, which I also consider local (I'll go there to do one TV if need be).

Thanks for the info Chad. I looked at you website and will schedule something
once I get my receiver and speakers. What do you think about the Onkyo 606
receiver? I guess the least expensive Pioneer Elite would be the VSX-01TXH .

Thanks

I believe that the Onkyo 606 is fine. If anyone else knows different, please chime in. It has the Faroudja chip, and from my experience it is only the Reon chip models that change the color space. My latest customer who had an Integra with that in it said he found some others here on AVS who had the same problem and they said it was a bug. It may be fixed with future firmware updates, but who knows.
Yes, it looks like you are right about the Pioneer. You may be able to find a deal on a 90TXV, but the 01TXH looks very nice.

Hi

I have a Mits 65835 dlp but have not gotten around to
getting my receiver and surround speakers yet. I have
a hd cable box and a blu-ray player connected to the
hdmi ports and just use the tv speaker right now.
Should I wait till I get rest of my setup installed before
getting the set professionally calibrated?


On top of what others already said, I would like to add that it is always a good idea to have as much communication with your calibrator as possible. Most calibrators will be happy to assist you in purchasing decisions etc, so basically get the calibration now, and ask your calibrator what equipment will get you the best picture quality when you upgrade. This goes for new players etc. as well, advice on purchasing decisions should be considered part of what you pay for when investing in a professional calibration. Most calibrators take a certain pride in their work, so the better hardware we get to play with, the better. While it can be a fun challenge from a professional point of view to sort out issues with crappy hardware, I for one would rather have the end result be as good as possible, even if the job was less challenging: Good results make better advertising! :-)

A point to remember: Your calibrator should be more knowledgeable than both yourself and your dealer (unless he IS your dealer of course), otherwise you would have no need for him.