View Full Version : Elder Scrolls Oblivion vs. Fallout 3. Your thoughts
whiskey > work 11-27-08, 12:57 AM 2 great games. We played Oblivion all night and it really is something special. However. Fallout 3 is even deeper and more refined to me. But there's something about Oblivion that is different. The lush environments, the horses, etc. Spell creation and other aspects of oblivion made it nice. Fallout 3 with its gore, the vats system...is it enough to put it equal with Oblivion? They are both well worth my money, but how do they stack up? I think oblivion is just a nudge ahead. The music, the setting, the environments made it just a tiny bit better. But I'm not through fallout 3 and what a time that game is too
pcweber111 11-27-08, 01:29 AM I prefer the fantasy setting in Oblivion so that gets it for me. As much as I like to shoot 'em up I prefer to hack 'n slash my way to victory lol.
HorrorScope 11-27-08, 04:42 AM F3
AHDTVDiet 11-27-08, 08:49 AM I think Fallout3 is technically superior. I prefer that there are tough enemies and places you should not go until you get to higher levels. I like that there are some easy places that you can absolutely rule once you get to higher levels. I like that you can clear out areas and they dont all respawn. I think the world seems more unique (place to place wise) and bigger with more little things to explore. In a way I prefer that I cannot max out all of my skills and have to choose what I want to be and focus, so I like the leveling a bit better. And I think in the end the story of Fallout 3 was a bit more polished.
However, if I had to choose one and only one I would pick.....well, morrowind. But if its between Oblivion and Fallout 3 I would probably pick Oblivion...well maybe, it depends on if all the Oblivion gates are opened or not.
Even though the fallout locations seemed more unique to me and there seemed like there were a lot more little locations to look at, there was the overall world which was one big depressing the same. The same but not the same, its hard to explain. At least in a world like Oblivion you can have a little desert, a little forrest, a little planes, a big ocean. You can have happy people and sad people, and lizard people and cat people. The overall world of Oblivion has more variety and well "hope" I guess. Its just more pleasant to be in.....until all the oblvion gates turn all the skies red. Also, I prefer fantasy games over games where humanity are a bunch of azzes destroying themselves... i get enough of that on the evening news.
Still though I liked fallout far far more then I thought. I definintly think both games are must owns.
dlconner 11-27-08, 10:50 AM I love fallout 3 to death, and have been playing it almost exclusively for the past few weeks. However, Oblivion will still get the nod for me slightly, as I love the Knights and magic lore more than post apocalyptical.
Slacker George 11-27-08, 11:47 AM I'm a little surprised there's only one other vote for Fallout 3 so far. I guess it's just a personal thing but I find the world of F3 a lot more compelling. At first I was I dissapointed that it would be smaller than Oblivion but now I think the size is perfect. It still feels expansive but also more focused and detailed at the same time.
The VATS system is brilliant and I love the way repair for your weapons and armour is handled. Scavenging for spare parts and equipment fits in perfectly with the post-apocalyptic setting.
I played the hell out of Oblivion and loved it for a long time but I did get bored and quit before finally coming back and finishing the main story a few months later. And to be fair the same thing could happen with Fallout 3. I'm only about half-way through the story quests but still loving every minute of it.
pcweber111 11-27-08, 01:53 PM I haven't had a chance to really sit down with F3 and get into the world but from what I have done so far it's a pretty detailed and fleshed out world, more so than Oblivion. If they could do an Elder Scrolls with the size of Oblivion (or bigger even) with as much detail as they put into the F3 world I'd be a really happy camper. I love the sheer size and explorability of Tamriel but I would like to see it a bit more populated. Seems empty sometimes, especially with no insects or birds/flying creatures.
ddrheretic 11-27-08, 02:01 PM Fallout 3.. Oblivion is good but didn't hold my attention long enough to beat it.
confidenceman 11-27-08, 02:51 PM Morrowind > Fallout 3 > Oblivion
All are fantastic, though. :)
Foosinho 11-27-08, 03:07 PM Fallout 3. I've already put twice as much time in it as I did in Oblivion, and I'm nowhere near tired of it. I find the setting a lot more compelling and interesting than fantasy.
Even though I tend to prefer games with a sci-fi setting, I've had a hard time getting into Fallout 3. Oblivion on the other hand tossed you into some more interesting adventures right out of the gate.
As such, based on what I've seen so far, I'd tend to vote for Oblivion as well.
fjtorres 11-27-08, 07:17 PM However, if I had to choose one and only one I would pick.....well, morrowind.
+1 for Morrowind to rule them all.
You can *fly* in Morrowind.
You can cast lightning from the skies and be well-nigh a god. ;)
Not really a fair comparison, though; Fallout is 3 years newer so it had better be better technically. Conversely, the Fallout universe constrains the story so you're stuck with this unrelently gloomy world without a shred of hope. Oblivion is a place where you can just go for a relaxing walk without always being in danger; Fallout is simply unrelenting... And that can grow old eventually, I suppose.
All three games are fun, which is what games are about, so all three are worth playing. But the tone is really different in Fallout. Some of the violence in Fallout is just plain gratuitous; where Oblivion went out of its way to tone violence down to where the game is playable by mature teenagers, Fallout is strictly for adults and glories in the gore. Its cartoon violence but if you stop to think about it, its a pretty sick game. ;)
I'm playing my second character in Fallout right now, applying what I learned in driving my first one to level 20 and I'm not sure I'll do a third character; VATS simply overwhelms gameplay and once you figure out how it works all but 8 or 9 of the perks turn out to be relatively worthless. With Oblivion it made sense to play with different characters, different attributes and combat styles, even if just for the faction quests; with Fallout there really isn't much variety in character development. It all comes down to maximizing your rate of headshot criticals in VATS. You get that down and its all one-shot kills. Or three-shot kills.
I'll still be playing Fallout next spring, but it will be the same character I'm playing now. And unlike Morrowind, Oblivion, or Mass Effect, I doubt I'll come back to the game after the DLC is exhausted.
Fallout's saving grace is the diversity of exploration options but the combat and leveling system limits character development so my choice has to be Oblivion by a (replay value) nose.
metal83 11-27-08, 07:45 PM I prefer guns, gore, death, and gloom.........so the setting in Fallout 3 is much better IMO. I love the post apocalyptic theme the game has, and everything about it is just more appealing to me. I'd pick Fallout 3 over Oblivion any day of the week. I actually bought Oblivion when it first came out but just couldn't get into it and ended up selling it. With games like these i'm not concerned with replay values, after 50-100 hours with a game there is no way i can get myself to play it again, once is definetly enough for me even if there is more than one ending.
Fallout 3 for the win in my book, but of course this is just my own opinion....:cool:
number1laing 11-28-08, 09:51 AM There were many things about Oblivion that bugged me. I didn't like the scaling enemies (win the arena at level 2, etc.), or the crappy voice overs (where someone would change accent 3 times in one convo), or several other things. I think Fallout 3 as a whole is a much, much better game than Oblivion.
VATS simply overwhelms gameplay and once you figure out how it works all but 8 or 9 of the perks turn out to be relatively worthless.
Honestly, this is a staple of the Fallout series. It's just how the levelling system is. I've actually read that Fallout 3 is a bit better with it than the other games, but I am not too familiar with #3 (only at like level 3 or 4).
sirjonsnow 11-28-08, 10:06 AM F3
newfmp3 11-28-08, 11:16 PM my playtime:
oblivion=120hrs and still going
fallout= 4....and stopped playing ... for now.
i hate VATS, and there's just something missing that doesn't grab my attention like obivion. i also hate f3s old music
AHDTVDiet 11-28-08, 11:33 PM my playtime:
oblivion=120hrs and still going
fallout= 4....and stopped playing ... for now.
i hate VATS, and there's just something missing that doesn't grab my attention like obivion. i also hate f3s old music
Ironic, the old music on the radio did not annoy me nearly as much as the retread Oblivion ambient music. Though maybe thats because I had the radio turned off much of the time, but never bothered to turn off the game music....it did have the function of clueing you in when you were under attack.
The Sapient 11-28-08, 11:34 PM I like many things about both. I think that Fallout 3 fixed a lot of the problems with Oblivion. The quests are tighter and the scaling enemies are gone. But Fallout 3 has its own problems. Maybe no one else agrees with me, but the absurd levels of gore just become tedious. And I also find that Fallout 3 doesn't allow for nearly as wide a variety of workable characters.
I guess I listed off things I don't like about the two games. Maybe that is because there is just too much I love about both.
number1laing 11-28-08, 11:59 PM Ironic, the old music on the radio did not annoy me nearly as much as the retread Oblivion ambient music. Though maybe thats because I had the radio turned off much of the time, but never bothered to turn off the game music....it did have the function of clueing you in when you were under attack.
I guess it depends if you like the music or not. I happen to be a fan, but yea. Bioshock used music from a similar time period.
metal83 11-29-08, 12:02 AM I like many things about both. I think that Fallout 3 fixed a lot of the problems with Oblivion. The quests are tighter and the scaling enemies are gone. But Fallout 3 has its own problems. Maybe no one else agrees with me, but the absurd levels of gore just become tedious. And I also find that Fallout 3 doesn't allow for nearly as wide a variety of workable characters.
I guess I listed off things I don't like about the two games. Maybe that is because there is just too much I love about both.
Absurd levels of gore, seriously..:rolleyes:
There can never be enough gore, nothing i hate more than killing someone in a game with no blood and body parts flying around. But i personally love gore, horror movies, etc etc etc.
But i do understand that it's just your opinion, as this is mine.
Slacker George 11-29-08, 02:08 AM Maybe no one else agrees with me, but the absurd levels of gore just become tedious.Are you using the Bloody Mess perk? Without it I think it's fairly realistic actually.
mtbooher 11-29-08, 01:24 PM Is fallout 3 worth picking up?
whiskey > work 11-29-08, 01:26 PM Is fallout 3 worth picking up?
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yes
whityfrd 11-29-08, 02:17 PM http://i37.tinypic.com/10cq4v6.jpg
yes
i dont care where your from. Thats damn funny. Lol
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