Uncharted: Among Thieves [Text View] - Page 9

drummernrg

01-28-10, 07:48 PM

Expect a download next time you fire up Uncharted...

The multiplayer skins are up on PSN today... other regions started purchasing/playing with them last night (I'm in the US).

Add-on Game Content UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves PlayStation Heroes Pack ($4.99)
Storm through UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves online multiplayer modes as characters from your favorite PlayStation franchises! This pack contains seven character skins from inFAMOUS, Killzone 2, and the Resistance franchise.
File size: 141 KB

So, if it's 141KB, then I imagine the skin geometry/textures are actually part of the 1.04 update and you're just downloading an unlock code from PSN store.

People are complaining: it's not free, it's not available in my region (because I bought the game disk in a different country for cheaper), it's not up on PSN yet, they're silent (therefore allows stealth, which is unfair), they should not be silent (without sound effects they are a rip off), they are not available in single player or co-op, etc.

I'm sure many more are happy, paying customers! And if Sony/ND makes a buck, that should encourage more development and prolong Uncharted 2 DLC.

Personally, I've gotten more value out of this game than any other on the PS3. I wonder if the grind to X is where I'll stop, or if I'll even get there.

While a clan of Helgasts or Chimera would be cool, I'll probably sit these skins out, because I'm more interested in (potentially spending money on) new maps and co-op. I do not think I'm interested in more weapons, but I could be wrong. Unlocking some of the single player weapons might upset the balance, who knows?

Martez

01-28-10, 08:24 PM

They don't make any kind of noise? That's weak.

confidenceman

01-28-10, 08:46 PM

they're silent (therefore allows stealth, which is unfair)If true, that's jacked up and deserves a fix. I suck enough at this game as it is.

TyrantII

01-29-10, 08:03 AM

The multiplayer skins are up on PSN today... other regions started purchasing/playing with them last night (I'm in the US).

So, if it's 141KB, then I imagine the skin geometry/textures are actually part of the 1.04 update and you're just downloading an unlock code from PSN store.

Yes, they'd have to be for others to be able to see them. Otherwise it just be a client side purchase, and thats no fun.

Zookster

01-29-10, 12:44 PM

Does any one know what section of the game the SP demo is? I may want to dl for a quick fix when I have another disc in the machine.

Mikazaru

01-29-10, 01:50 PM

Does any one know what section of the game the SP demo is? I may want to dl for a quick fix when I have another disc in the machine.

The demo is the first part of Chapter 5: Urban Warfare. For a 3GB download, it's surprisingly short (ends when Chloey shows up with the rocket launcher).

Zookster

01-29-10, 02:20 PM

The demo is the first part of Chapter 5: Urban Warfare. For a 3GB download, it's surprisingly short (ends when Chloey shows up with the rocket launcher).

Thanks! That's actually the section I was guessing it would be. Now to decide if it's worth 3GB of space on my HDD when I already have the full game.

Mikazaru

02-01-10, 12:53 AM

Thanks! That's actually the section I was guessing it would be. Now to decide if it's worth 3GB of space on my HDD when I already have the full game.

I had downloaded the EU version -- the NA version is only 1.8GB. The difference must be due to the different language options. I guess all that uncompressed audio really does suck up a lot of disc space. It's kind of fun listening to all the different versions of Nate though.

drummernrg

02-01-10, 04:57 PM

dogdoctor

02-02-10, 02:51 PM

Evidently, the Dragon Sniper rifle has been reduced in multiplayer ammo capacity with the 1.04 update. I haven't verified this myself, so I don't know if that's the maximum, combined ammo capacity or just the standard clip you get when you first pick it up.Yeah, someone created a major gripe thread at the SN boards. I guess it was orignally startign with 10 shots. Now unless you have the "bandoleer" I think booster it starts at 6, with a maximum of 9 with booster. I guess the snipers are pretty pissed.

KingShorty

02-03-10, 11:55 AM

Yeah, someone created a major gripe thread at the SN boards. I guess it was orignally startign (<--- :confused:) with 10 shots. Now unless you have the "bandoleer" I think booster it starts at 6, with a maximum of 9 with booster. I guess the snipers are pretty pissed.

What is this SN board that you speak of?

dogdoctor

02-03-10, 01:24 PM

What is this SN board that you speak of?God Bless You Jack Bauer!

PSN Boards

and as for the ...ign spelling. I've done that all my life. I type the order incorrectly. The word "the" is also a big one. Until I go back and change them any word ending with "ing" will almost always be "ign" and the will come across as the "t" stuck to the end of the word before it as in "whatt eh frack". I try to catch them, but I do it so often I read it normally with the errors. :p

Ravenous112

02-03-10, 04:20 PM

who cares about the sniper rifle? its all about the FAL

drummernrg

02-03-10, 05:06 PM

its all about the FAL

Agreed, the FAL is much more practical and accessible on all levels. I only ditch it for the M4 or shotgun.

Offtopic: I've been offline from U2 multiplayer to give my ringing ears a rest, last weekend's rock concert didn't help either. I'd stopped playing with headphones, opting for just my bluetooth mic and nearly inaudible sound from my speakers for weeks now. I played online a few nights ago with the game completely muted, no mic, and I noticed something: the flash of a grenade on the screen caused the ringing in my ears to intensify!

My brain must really associate the sound design of U2 to the visual design (kudos to ND) and so I seem to have either a tiny bit of post traumatic stress disorder :confused: or withdrawal symptoms from the audio. I may need a RnR vacation from gaming to prevent hearing loss! I'm thinking Hawaii... :)

drummernrg

02-03-10, 05:13 PM

It may be sacrilege to suggest that U2 multiplayer is a grind, because hopefully it is an enjoyable grind for all or else people would move on.

Slightly off topic: the gaming industry plots to pry our attention and wallets again with more multiplayer: Aliens versus Predator multiplayer demo (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18063400#post18063400) releases on PSN tomorrow. Any (dis)interest? If so, reply on that thread.

Ravenous112

02-03-10, 08:28 PM

the only time I really begin to hate the multiplayer is being stuck in a room full of statues from people who would rather leave their ps3 on all night than actually attain any wins on their own.

KingShorty

02-04-10, 09:39 AM

Gumbi

02-04-10, 10:07 PM

The Fal is definatly my go to weapon. I'll take that over every other weapon in the game, M4 included.

duffman13

02-05-10, 01:49 PM

FAL is my favorte in single player, but I stick with the AK in multiplayer unless I have a chance for the shotgun or the M-4

Ravenous112

02-05-10, 01:55 PM

The Fal or "fail" as it has been called by some of our "pther" board members is a very strong weapon... I haven't mastered it and the only people I know or have seen use it are usually packing the "down the irons" booster.

Speaking of the "down the irons" booster, some people just don't know when to take the training wheels off.

That's not true, I use it all the time and I'm using the rapid hands booster. I don't need special boosters to help me aim like some other children do.

drummernrg

02-05-10, 07:16 PM

That's not true, I use it all the time and I'm using the rapid hands booster. I don't need special boosters to help me aim like some other children do.

The Down the Irons booster yields "better accuracy when aiming long guns." From what I understand, that means it reduces the spread of bullets inside the reticle / cross-hair area, which is what somebody would already expect when aiming. Muzzle lift and bullet spread are realistic factors, of course, so I imagine this minimizes spread.

So I'm not sure how that helps you aim -- it's not like the Very Easy mode in the single player game which actually moves the reticle. Or am I misunderstanding what it does?

And furthermore, I'd like to know your technique: are you always scoped in while moving? always aiming towards head shots to reduce the amount of ammo you need to shoot?

These are the things I want to ask better players all the time: what techniques should I be adopting and practicing?

Gumbi

02-05-10, 09:45 PM

The Down the Irons booster yields "better accuracy when aiming long guns." From what I understand, that means it reduces the spread of bullets inside the reticle / cross-hair area, which is what somebody would already expect when aiming. Muzzle lift and bullet spread are realistic factors, of course, so I imagine this minimizes spread.

So I'm not sure how that helps you aim -- it's not like the Very Easy mode in the single player game which actually moves the reticle. Or am I misunderstanding what it does?

And furthermore, I'd like to know your technique: are you always scoped in while moving? always aiming towards head shots to reduce the amount of ammo you need to shoot?

These are the things I want to ask better players all the time: what techniques should I be adopting and practicing?

I'd like to say I'm half-way good at this game in deathmatch (2.0kd). I usually tell people to work at getting good with the Fal and learn to compensate for the lag (leading your shots a bit when someone is running left to right or vice versa).

There are usually "killzones" that I avoid in each map, like places where you can get shot at from multiple angles. I stick to the outer edge of the maps most of the time unless I'm running with a few other team mates.

One of cheapest tactics (which I shamlessly use) is dropping a grenade at your feet when someone gets the jump on you. Roll away as fast as you can and nine out of ten times your would be assasin will run right into the grenade. It's cheap but it's saved my arse many a time.

Ravenous112

02-05-10, 10:14 PM

I try to avoid cheap tactics, but I ussually aim for mid chest hoping my reciol will bring me closer to that headshot. I don't use the scope on the FAL because it seems a little more accurate with just the regular aiming.

My hatred for the down the irons booster is because it takes no skill to control your shot. You just aim and hold the trigger down until they are dead. I use burst fire for a more accurate shot.

Gumbi

02-06-10, 03:21 AM

Does down the irons even do anything for the Fal? I've never noticed any difference with it on or off.

thedrizzle85

02-06-10, 12:29 PM

dogdoctor

02-06-10, 07:16 PM

yo yo...yo. I agree with King on the whole training wheels thing...i only recently stopped running "down the irons". as far as the FAL goes...it is a great gun..the 3shot bursts are powerful. obviously not a good blindfire gun tho. i usually stick w/the AKWelcome, welcome! Glad to see you made it here. This forum rocks when ever you plan to research/troubleshoot some home theater equipment.

Ravenous112

02-08-10, 01:26 AM

Does down the irons even do anything for the Fal? I've never noticed any difference with it on or off.

its cheap, but if someone is using down the irons with a FAL I've noticed that they've been able to hit me even after I've rounded the corner.

thedrizzle85

02-08-10, 11:36 AM

that's not the "down the irons" booster..that's the "curve yo shiiit" booster..you didn't know about that one Rav? haha.

Ravenous112

02-08-10, 01:37 PM

I need that booster and the roll away and never get hit by any of my bullets booster.

thedrizzle85

02-08-10, 05:22 PM

ah yes "the matrix/bullet dodging" booster. that one is epic. I need to go back and watch some of our cinema and follow you, king and doc around...see how the pros do it...

thedrizzle85

02-09-10, 12:03 PM

What was anyone's best KDR in a single match??? just wondering who the killers out there are. 45k 12d is my best i think ina plunder obviously...

dogdoctor

02-09-10, 02:21 PM

What was anyone's best KDR in a single match??? just wondering who the killers out there are. 45k 12d is my best i think ina plunder obviously...Mine was the other night when I was 5 away from rampage and killed myself jumping off a cliff. :rolleyes: Figures. It turned into a 5 on 3 match so it made it easier but nonetheless I went 20k 3d.

drummernrg

02-09-10, 05:27 PM

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/02/uncharted-2-soundtrack-in-stores-today/

... now we don't have to bid on or steal a Fortune Hunter edition!

The CD adds three tracks more than are available from iTunes store. The three tracks are also purchasable digitally elsewhere, see above.

Gumbi

02-09-10, 05:50 PM

What was anyone's best KDR in a single match??? just wondering who the killers out there are. 45k 12d is my best i think ina plunder obviously...

Best match I've had was 26-0 in deathmatch.

Jeff

tomfoolery_79

02-09-10, 06:28 PM

I just finished the game. My favorite part of the whole game is when Chloe says "you know you are going to miss this ass." That was awesome!!!

TyrantII

02-09-10, 08:11 PM

I just finished the game. My favorite part of the whole game is when Chloe says "you know you are going to miss this ass." That was awesome!!!

My favorite lines was Nate in Tibet: "That's the last time I ever cross a bridge with you again"

Ravenous112

02-09-10, 08:42 PM

I liked the part when he's in nepal climbing the hotel and he says something like "power is out, girl is trapped in an elevator...I swear if there's a zombie around the corner..."

thedrizzle85

02-09-10, 09:36 PM

"....i'm sorry...do you have a plan to go with that grenade?!"

KingShorty

02-10-10, 04:12 AM

What was anyone's best KDR in a single match??? just wondering who the killers out there are. 45k 12d is my best i think ina plunder obviously...

I've had 14 perfect matches, however, my best in terms of total kills was 57... since then I've had five or six 50 kill matches (been saving/protecting them in the cinema).

As for favorite line in the game, it's a scene actually, right after the museum when Nate is doing the "hand puppet" recollection of the previous days events between himself and Flynn.

code brown

02-10-10, 05:15 AM

at the museum...

"There's a guy above you. There's a guy above you."...
"There's a guy below you. There's a guy below you."

Best line EVAR.

drummernrg

02-10-10, 01:35 PM

My favorite part of the whole game is when Chloe says "you know you are going to miss this ass." That was awesome!!!

You need to see one of the cut scenes during co-op objective in the Nepal War Zone, that's my favorite moment where I LOL'd. I've mentioned it before on this thread.

KingShorty

02-10-10, 02:40 PM

From Naughty Dog's Twitter feed:

About two months ago, in early December, we ran a little experiment over a weekend – we would lower the health for all players, in all playlists and game types, to be roughly the equivalent of activating the Crushing variation in a Custom game.

We wanted to see what you – our player population – thought about this change. We also invited everyone to take a poll on NaughtyDog.com to let us know what you thought.

After a couple of months had passed, we took the poll down and looked at the data we got from running the poll. The results are in the graph below.

Click to see graphic (http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/experimental_weekend_poll_results/)

What did we learn?

Overwhelmingly, to the tune of 39% of everyone who replied, you let us know that you enjoyed the lowered health during the Experimental Weekend. Coming in at a close second, 33% of you felt that it was a good thing as well, but that we should keep it within its own playlist, rather than have the lowered health active across all playlists and game types.

By contrast, only 20% of respondents disliked the lowered player health outright. If take into account everyone who responded critically to the Experimental Weekend – adding those who didn’t like it along with those who thought the health was lowered too much – then 24% of all respondents didn’t like the change to player health.

Even counting our margin of error (at the bottom of this post), the results are pretty clear – the majority of you liked the lowered health.

So… where does that leave us?

We hosted the Experimental Weekend to see if the lowered health addressed criticism that opponents were “bullet sponges” without affecting the overall game mechanics. After reviewing gameplay data and the poll results, if this is something we really wanted to do, then the answer would be far more complex than just changing health.

After a lot of tweaking and a ton of internal play-testing, we collectively determined the only correct way to tackle this would be to tune a broader range of multiplayer mechanics rather than only change player health.

Our upcoming Title Update 1.05 will reveal the minor weapon damage and attribute balancing we’ve done based on this poll, which we feel evolves our multiplayer game and keeps it fun to play and true to our gameplay philosophy.

(Results are based on a poll hosted on NaughtyDog.com which had 5,920 respondents, after removing duplicate and invalid responses, that was conducted from December 4, 2009, to January 30, 2010. For results based on the total sample of our unique player population, one can say with 99% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±1.7 percentage points.)

Gumbi

02-10-10, 02:58 PM

From Naughty Dog's Twitter feed:

This fantastic news. I loved the lower health, it forced people to play a little smarter.

MarkcusD

02-10-10, 04:12 PM

From Naughty Dog's Twitter feed:

WTH? I think they're over-thinking it. Just put out a crushing playlist. Done. If there aren't enough players they can always change the playlists (they aren't set in stone).

thedrizzle85

02-10-10, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by KingShorty
From Naughty Dog's Twitter feed:

sweeeeeet, hopefully that means w/the update it won't take a full clip to kill someone

Ravenous112

02-11-10, 12:38 AM

I don't think lowering the overall health will solve it, but if they increased the actual damage of the rifles giving a larger gap between the handguns and the high powered rifles would make more sense.

I don't care who you are, you take an M4/Fal shot to the junk you're not going to just roll jump away to safety.

thedrizzle85

02-12-10, 01:16 PM

dogdoctor

02-12-10, 06:06 PM

damn...got worked last night on Uncharted 2...i had a few good matches, last one went well..but for the most part, i got killed a bunch....SHORTY WHERE WERE YOU!!! RAV!?!?! lol... it's cool tho, vic, mantis, doc, and byron saved my ass a buncha times too. tonight i'm out for some payback!Yeah it's a double edged sword. King and Rav on mean less kills for you and I. ;) But it also means that we stay alive a little bit longer to help for the win. :p Last night was brutal!

thedrizzle85

02-13-10, 11:06 AM

last night was much better!! kicked-ass, even only used handguns and grenades. haha. that was nice. good matches last night fellas.

KingShorty

02-15-10, 02:44 PM

Title update 1.05 went live earlier today.

thedrizzle85

02-15-10, 06:00 PM

yup yup! i saw. i'm not off til 7:30 - 8ish...but gonna update as soon as i get home. DLC comes out next week right? 25th?

drummernrg

02-15-10, 07:51 PM

All pay DLC on 2/25 is Drake's Fortune Skin pack, two Drake's Fortune multiplayer Maps, or as a bundle. It would be with next week's Thursday Playstation Store update, methinks.

Here's the update overview for 1.05, more detail at the URL:
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/uncharted_2_title_update_105_feb_15_2010/

* Weapon damage and attributes have been rebalanced
* On-screen display of medals awarded during a match has been updated
* Implemented detection and removal of flagrantly idle players from the active matchmaking player pool
* Cash penalty for leaving matches has been adjusted and is now tiered
* Updated player networking protocols to remove all occurrences of “error syncing player data,” Level resets and Ranked playlist Skill Level resets
* Added crawling ticker display of leaderboard statistics to the multiplayer menu screen
* Updated multiplayer menu screen to include a “Trophy” selection to enable players to display and track progress on the new Trophies included in the Drake’s Fortune Multiplayer Pack
* Collision and geometry updates to various multiplayer maps
* 13 new medals have been added

Sounds great!

thedrizzle85

02-16-10, 11:22 AM

alright so i played w/the normal crew last night....and it took a couple matches to adjust to the new weapon balancing....what do you guys think of the 1.05 title update????

thedrizzle85

02-16-10, 12:44 PM

ok, since no one has responded yet, i'll post my opinion on TU1.05 i LOVE it! sure it takes some getting used to if you've been playing for awhile..but don't be a bitch and just quit playing...you just gotta adapt a bit. plus our health isn't reduced like that one weekend. not even CLOSE to that...some weapons are just more powerful than they used to be...just an adjustment nothing to cry about.. i'm glad they rebalanced it out!

also..does anyone know if there will be new weapons added along w/the new skins and maps on the feb. 25th DLC? i've seen some images and characters are carrying different weapons...just wondering

Ravenous112

02-16-10, 02:22 PM

No more rolling immortality I do love the new balance. I hate the fact that the medals are in the middle of the screen now, because it seems I die everytime I get one, so I can't read it when the stupid score board gets in the way. Down the irons is still way over powered.

(on a side note it hides the many unlucky medals from me I was getting lastnight)

thedrizzle85

02-16-10, 05:17 PM

Found this post in another forum. credit goes to Mcwooty on the PS boards
*N is normal damage
*1.05 is damage done after the 1.05 TU
*C is for damage done during that "crushing" difficulty setting weekend

Pistols:

92FS:
*N* Body Shots = 5. Headshots = 4. Leg Shots = 10.
*1.05* Body Shots = 4. Headshots = 4. Leg Shots = 4.
*C* Body Shots = 4. Headshots = 3. Leg Shots = 6.

Desert-5:
*N* Body Shots = 2. Headshots = 1. Leg shots = 4.
*1.05* Body Shots = 2. Headshots = 1. Leg shots = 2.
*C* Body Shots = 2. Headshots = 1. Leg shots = 2.

Mini Uzi:
*N* Body Shots = 8. Head shots = 7. Leg Shots = 15.
*1.05* Body Shots = 6. Head shots = 5. Leg Shots = 6.
*C* Body Shots = 5. Head shots = 5. Leg Shots = 10.

Rifles:

AK:
*N* Body Shots = 7. Headshots = 6. Leg shots - 15.
*1.05* Body Shots = 6. Headshots = 5. Leg shots - 6.
*C* Body Shots = 5. Headshots = 4. Leg shots - 10.

M4:
*N* Body Shots = 8. Headshots = 7. Leg shots - 17.
*1.05* Body Shots = 7. Headshots = 6. Leg shots - 7.
*C* Body Shots = 5. Headshots = 5. Leg shots - 10.

Sniper:
*N* Body Shots = 2 . Head Shots = 1. Leg Shots = 3.
*1.05* Body Shots = 1. Head Shots = 1. Leg Shots = 1.
*C* Body Shots = 1 . Head Shots = 1. Leg Shots = 2.

FAL:
*N* Body Shots = 2 Bursts (6 bullets). Headshots = 2 bursts (6 bullets). Leg Shots = 5 Bursts (13 bullets).
*1.05* Body Shots = 2 Bursts (5 bullets). Headshots = 2 bursts (4 bullets). Leg shots = 2 bursts (5 bullets).
*C* Body Shots = 2 Bursts (4 bullets). Headshots = 2 bursts (4 bullets). Leg Shots = 3 Bursts (8 bullets).

...

The most notable difference is the legshot damage, which is a pretty damn drastic change. Leg and body = Same hitbox now!

Mikazaru

02-16-10, 06:07 PM

Damn, my trophy collection for this game went from 100% to 84%:(. I knew I shouldn't have updated... Oh well, at least they didn't take away my Platinum. With BFBC2 only 2 weeks away, it's probably too late for me to start up online again. I think I'm only level 14 and 90% of that was done by my nephew. Just in case -- how's the matchmaking now (would hate to be going up against level X type guys)?

Edit: On the other hand, with everyone having to adjust, maybe now is a good time to start playing again.

dogdoctor

02-16-10, 07:09 PM

Mike Jones

02-16-10, 08:17 PM

The most notable difference is the legshot damage, which is a pretty damn drastic change. Leg and body = Same hitbox now!

Total fail. Body and leg damage the same? I guess they wanted to nerf the game for noobs so you don't really have to aim. That is plain stupid. It should be at minimal 1.5 X the shots in the leg vs chest.

thedrizzle85

02-16-10, 08:38 PM

i agree...to me that's the only annoying thing about the update is the leg and body equivalence in damage taking. it makes for noobs to get some lucky shots on us...but hey..in the end..if i'm still destroying them...i'm happy =)

drummernrg

02-25-10, 12:27 PM

Finally, some more pictures and descriptions on the PS Blog:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/02/the-drakes-fortune-multiplayer-pack-releases-today-for-uncharted-2-among-thieves/

Here's a ND description for how to change your map preference to DLC only, which will lengthen your wait time. The default is to use all maps, of course:
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/the_new_dlc_matchmaking_and_you/

I do think it's a riot to see a room full of Chimeas doing the pump, but I'm not so much into skins, so I'll be picking up the maps today after work when the PSN store updates.

thedrizzle85

02-25-10, 03:25 PM

Finally, some more pictures and descriptions on the PS Blog:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/02/the-drakes-fortune-multiplayer-pack-releases-today-for-uncharted-2-among-thieves/

Here's a ND description for how to change your map preference to DLC only, which will lengthen your wait time. The default it to use all maps, of course:
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/the_new_dlc_matchmaking_and_you/

I do think it's a riot to see a room full of Chimeas doing the pump, but I'm not so much into skins, so I'll be picking up the maps today after work when the PSN store updates.

Thanks for putting this up man, i was just about to do the same thing. I'm excited for the new maps, should be awesome.

drummernrg

02-25-10, 09:06 PM

Update: the Drake's Fortune DLC skins do have voices (they are not silent like the first batch of DLC skins). Buying these new skins will *not* enable the new DLC trophies, which makes sense to me.

eddy_winds

02-26-10, 10:44 AM

I'll be picking up the maps today after work when the PSN store updates.

Best $3.99 spent
;)

http://www.myu2sig.com/usergeneratedimages/magician9.png (http://www.myu2sig.com/)

ugabuga

02-26-10, 11:34 AM

Any of these new maps for coop?

drummernrg

02-26-10, 04:21 PM

Any of these new maps for coop?

No, I don't believe so. I played both last night as Plunder and Deathmatch type variation games. I will say this: they feel huge, but that's probably because I'm still getting to know them.

I do like them, so I agree with Eddy - it's money well spent!

Of course, I already made my donation for Haitian relief, so I don't feel as guilty spending money on this virtual destination. Wait, now that I've typed that sentence, I do feel some. :eek:

thedrizzle85

02-26-10, 06:56 PM

yes both new maps are available for coop play. read CAREFULLY this article from naughty dog. it says for co-op also.

http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/the_new_dlc_matchmaking_and_you/

dogdoctor

02-26-10, 10:01 PM

yes both new maps are available for coop play. read CAREFULLY this article from naughty dog. it says for co-op also.

http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/the_new_dlc_matchmaking_and_you/

Hey drizz...any interest in doing some co-op with me sometime? (when we're not in MP and not in Dante's lol)

eddy_winds

02-27-10, 09:46 AM

*
"The matchmaking system will first attempt to place you in matches where all players have the new maps installed – up to 10 players in competitive modes and 3 players in cooperative modes. If it cannot find an open slot for you, your party or create a new full match within a reasonable amount of time, the matchmaking system then expands its search and attempts to place you in any match using the original on-disk maps with open spots. "

* YMMV

it says for co-op also.

Its in Custom Game play

Not the story mode co-op

seanbryan

02-28-10, 07:00 PM

The new maps are available for "co-op arena" (survival and gold rush)

thedrizzle85

03-02-10, 02:32 PM

for sure dogdoc...i haven't done co-op in forever, but i'm down! next time it's just us 2 or 3 of us, we should try to do some co-op!

KingShorty

03-03-10, 06:15 PM

From Naughty Dog's website:

Title Update 1.06 will be released on Thursday, March 4, 2010 at 10:00 AM PST (what time is that in my city?). After that time, you will be prompted to download and install Title Update 1.06 when you connect online to UNCHARTED 2 multiplayer.

Title Update 1.06 includes a couple under-the-hood fixes we needed to make that don’t affect gameplay. Beyond that, we’ve also made the following updates:
- Removed automatic shoulder selection when players click the L1 shoulder button to aim
- Delayed the appearance of the scoreboard to allow time for players to view any medals received simultaneously with player death

At the same time the Title Update is released, we’ll also be pushing live updates to other aspects of our multiplayer. These updates include:
- Adjusted hitbox attributes so that players will take less damage to the character’s legs
- Decreased kill radius of grenades by 1 meter
- Decreased accuracy of Down the Irons by 15%
- Reduced rate of fire of the FAL by 10%
- Reduced rate of fire for the Dragon Sniper by 10%
- Collision and geometry changes to “The Fort” to prevent intentional glitching by players

We’ll be keeping an eye on how these changes work out in-game and, as usual, through your comments, forum posts and Twitter. See you online!

thedrizzle85

03-03-10, 08:32 PM

hahahaha sweet! thanks for the update Shorty!

dogdoctor

03-03-10, 10:09 PM

Oh can't you hear the bitching and moaning already....at least maybe we can get back to our regular scheduled programming of not everyone running down the irons, and the fal spamming. The grenade decrease is really going to suck...especially if they don't fix the accuracy of the bast radius. A smaller radius will be good for sure, but only if it actually takes the guy out. If we're on a nerfing kick....why is it that they can't nerf the situational awareness. I mean, I wouldn't mind if it only worked for say 5 meters distance. Then the poor sucker trying to use it would have to stop more often to make it work making it more cumbersome to use. Now that I would like to see.

Rare96ws6

03-04-10, 03:29 AM

Both new maps are awesome! Very cool to be able to play co-op in the custom's house from Drake's Fortune.
Anyone know if ND will have any more double $$ or exp. weekends? I
started playing after any of those and was wondering if they willd do
it again.

eddy_winds

03-04-10, 11:28 AM

- Decreased kill radius of grenades by 1 meter

- Reduced rate of fire of the FAL by 10%

:eek:

Title Update 1.06 will be released on Thursday, March 4, 2010 at 10:00 AM PST

10:04 AM PST

There Late

* Its up 15MB

Ravenous112

03-04-10, 11:52 AM

I hope this means there will be alot less random grenade tosses for cheap kills. I think the FAL should be more balanced now as I've been destroying with it since the patch. Finally they realized that down the irons booster was way over powered.

drummernrg

03-07-10, 12:31 PM

Does this mean ND is designing Multiplayer to suit your needs, Rav? :~)

Seriously, it seems that they are always trying to improve the balance of the game. So it feels like they are taking away advantages and making every round more of a challenge. I can't argue with that, but I do feel that pang from every adjustment as I settle into the changes.

I feel some nostalgia for 1.04, but I don't want to go back.

Ravenous112

03-07-10, 01:22 PM

eventually they're just going to keep patching it until it plays like it did when the game originally came out.

KingShorty

03-07-10, 03:38 PM

They've hurt the fun of this game. I honestly thought that getting rid of this game would be a sad day but now, I dunno if I'm going to miss it as much.

Kingram

03-08-10, 07:08 PM

drummernrg

03-08-10, 07:55 PM

They have destroyed a once great game with there incompotent [sic] updates I have never seen a game go down hill so fast!

Let me ask you this, if you started as a brand new player at level 1 today, do you think you'd feel the same way?

Think back, this is how I felt when I started playing multiplayer during the beta: this game is tough, I love the sound and graphics, I hate getting beat up by the higher level players, but it's fun and I'm leveling up regularly, so I'm going to try and get better.

Didn't you feel the same and wouldn't you feel the same regardless if you started at 1.00 or 1.06?

The difference is that your expectations have been set from experience of changes from 1.00 to 1.05, but I don't think new players could feel the same way because it's all new to them.

Fundamentally, it is the same game, rebalanced.

drummernrg

03-08-10, 07:57 PM

They've hurt the fun of this game. I honestly thought that getting rid of this game would be a sad day but now, I dunno if I'm going to miss it as much.

I also wonder if being "stuck in the grind" to level 60 is a factor? I've slowed down because of it, but I haven't picked up another game yet.

KingShorty

03-08-10, 09:31 PM

Fundamentally, it is the same game, rebalanced.

Rebalanced? Try BROKEN!

The grind has nothing to do with it, they've really broken the game. When my buddies and I were grinding in Killzone 2 to hit the top 1% for the trophy, the game was still a ton of fun. When GG released their patch to "rebalance" the game, it was still fun... Naughty Dog have really hurt the fun-factor in their game by fudging with it so many times.

Also, I don't play the game nearly as much as many others do. You'll almost never find me playing on my own unless I'm waiting on a party to finish their game so that I can join them. I play with friends and playing with friends is supposed to be fun, however almost everyone is screaming into their mic about how "broken" the game now feels.

Finally, you were asking if the game would feel "broken" if we had started playing at 1.06 vs 1.00?... my answer, probably not. Now, let me ask you this, if you were a developer and were making a ton of money off of sales from October to February, garnering praise from all sorts of media about a great single-player experience as well as a very competent multi-player feature, knowing that there are other games coming out that could potentially hurt your audience, would you tinker with your game to ensure people stay to play or change it to the point where people are frustrated enough to pick up another game?

TyrantII

03-08-10, 10:37 PM

how is it "broken?"

Kingram

03-09-10, 08:38 AM

how is it "broken?"

My biggest complaint is the half health, It's just to easy to die now. Die,respawn over and over is very frustrating. So this encorages camping and I try that but that gets boring. U2 was a unique game with it's running and gunnin(I agree there was to much of this) style which was a lot of FUN. The FUN is gone now. It seems all my friends are quitting and playing other games because of this. Im done with this game untill they bring the health back. They Broke a once great game. Im at level 53 and was going for 60 untill they screwed this game up with there incompetent updates.
I was Naughty Dogs #1 Fan I really really enjoyed this game I bought two copies at launch and told all family members and friends to buy this and most did but now it is messed up.

KingShorty

03-09-10, 10:39 AM

First, people seem to think that Naughty Dog has reduced the health of each player in the game, that is not so. What they've done is increased the damage of each bullet in the AK and hand guns (depending on your distance).

how is it "broken?"

By tinkering around with the way the game plays. For example, pre-patch, if someone was shooting at you from behind, you had an opportunity to find cover and try and shoot back. Post-patch, no chance, you're dead.

Pre-patch: if you drop a grenade near someone, they die. Post-patch, they can escape without even getting knocked over.

Pre-patch: The FAL was a killer from distance. Post-patch: in the interest of "balancing" things, instead of reducing the amount of damage each burst causes, they've slowed down the fire-rate. This might not mean anything from afar, however if someone is running at you with a pistol/AK47 and you have a FAL, chances of you dying first are higher.

This game has become a camp-fest with 90% of the people I've played against using, either, "down the irons" or "situational awareness" boosters.

Even bigger than all this is that people have been complaining about glitches in the game. Sure Naughty Dog have fixed some of them but there are still some big ones that render playing some maps pointless (i.e. The Fort).

Rakesh.S

03-09-10, 04:07 PM

They have destroyed a once great game with there incompotent updates I have never seen a game go down hill so fast! I thought updates were to make the game better not worse. Has this ever happened before?
Game of the year wasn't good enough so lets change it ???

You think this is bad? Try Gears of War 2, son.

They took a good game and crapped all over it, and then crapped on it some more with 5 title updates. Every time they put out an update, something else would break and people would exploit it.

thedrizzle85

03-09-10, 07:20 PM

i agree w/Shorty, the game does feel a little broken and can be very frustrating at times. Personally i still enjoy it for the most part but not as much as i once did. there are alot of things they changed that they shouldn't have that have already been discussed in this thread. however, i still try to enjoy the game and hope for the best in upcoming title updates if any.

zervinb

04-04-10, 12:21 PM

I know it's been quite some time since someone posted here, and you may have kept your Uncharted blu-ray away, but was just wondering today, is the character, "Zoran Lazarevic" a take on the Croatian tennis player "Goran Ivanisevic"?

Similar sounding names, Zoran, Goran. The surnames too. Or is it just a coincidence?

eddy_winds

04-05-10, 09:24 AM

but was just wondering today, is the character, "Zoran Lazarevic" a take on the Croatian tennis player "Goran Ivanisevic"?

Similar sounding names, Zoran, Goran. The surnames too. Or is it just a coincidence?

Tennis anyone..
;)

http://www.jakpro.net/u2-card/cards/dd/magician9.png (http://www.jakpro.net/u2-card/u2-card.php)

code brown

04-05-10, 05:05 PM

Die thread! Die!

bassmonkeee

04-05-10, 05:38 PM

Die thread! Die!

He says as he bumps a thread 8 hours after the last post....

Why do you care, exactly?

code brown

04-06-10, 05:06 AM

There isn't much more to discuss about this game

*Feel free to unknot your panties now*

Kingram

04-06-10, 12:39 PM

It's not as fun anymore after the 1.06 update. They need to go back to 1.04!!

bassmonkeee

04-06-10, 12:56 PM

There isn't much more to discuss about this game

Says who? Are you the arbiter of when games can no longer be discussed? Did I miss a vote?

*Feel free to unknot your panties now*

Uh huh. Says the guy complaining that a thread is still getting posts...

so's your face

04-06-10, 01:13 PM

{Dogtag!}

drummernrg

04-06-10, 05:01 PM

Some real news: there is an Eye of Irinda bundle on PSN now, it is a four part motion comic (the first one was free to download) plus two character multiplayer skin bundle available in North America for a few bucks. Previously, those skins were only available in Europe, IIRC.

http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/reminder_eye_of_indra_bundle_now_available_on_psn/

There are unconfirmed rumors of more paid DLC around the middle of this month that would comprise of a co-op scenario, more multiplayer maps, and skins. We'll see what happens, but I'm definitely interested in more maps.

KingShorty

04-06-10, 09:31 PM

I don't care how many map packs they release, if they leave the game at 1.06, I won't be supporting it anymore. I haven't touched it in a couple of weeks now and I haven't been missing it.

Rare96ws6

04-06-10, 11:00 PM

Anyone know what happened to the leaderboards yesterday? All of a sudden I go from ranked 650 on co-op to 275! There are a bunch of players not showing up on the leaderboards. Even some of the people on my friends list are not listed in the boards, evn though they are still playing.
Anyone else notice this?

Also, why do so many people complain about the 1.05 and 1.06 updates? If you were killing a bunch on 1.04, it should be easier now for you. This is the first shooter game I have ever played on-line, and caught the tail end of 1.04
since I got if for Christmas. I really can't judge how different it felt on 1.04, since I mainly played co-op then.

dogdoctor

04-10-10, 11:43 AM

I don't care how many map packs they release, if they leave the game at 1.06, I won't be supporting it anymore. I haven't touched it in a couple of weeks now and I haven't been missing it.http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/siege_expansion_pack_dlc/

"Mark your calendars for Thursday, April 22. That’s when our latest DLC release for UNCHARTED 2, the Siege Expansion Pack, goes up for sale on the PlayStation Network Store. Full details on what’s inside the Siege Expansion Pack below.

Siege cooperative game type
An arena co-op game type where two to three players defend a marked territory within a map against waves of NPC opponents. At the end of every round, the territory will change locations within the map and the NPC opponents will increase in difficultly. The only way you can score co-op points is to have all your players within the captured territory, all while being assaulted by NPC opponents.

2 maps:

The Highrise
Towering over the streets of Nepal, The Highrise is a map with plenty of opportunities for players to get the high ground on their opponents. Set on a series of destroyed and under-construction buildings, players need to be on their toes as there are many different jump locations and paths around the map. Players should also watch out for the incoming airstrikes, as they can clear the rooftops in seconds.

The Museum
Set at dusk amongst the courtyards and display cases at the site of Drake and Flynn’s heist, The Museum provides players with a mix of intense gameplay covering traversing across rooftops, dodging gunfire through twisting corridors, and close quarters fighting. Players need to watch their backs as there are numerous flank routes in all parts of this circular map. Players should also learn the secret climbing routes that will allow them to get the drop on their opponents.

6 multiplayer skins:
Wetsuit Drake
Baseball Shirt Drake
Prakoso
Platzor
Glowzor
Dead Explorer

11 Trophies

Bronze:
You Can’t Break Me – Complete all 3 co-op objective maps on Crushing
Under Siege – Finish Wave 10 in 1 Siege game
Speedy – Get 10 First! Medals
I’ll Cover You – Get 50 Defender Medals
Fallen Angel – Get 50 Afterlife Medals
Not So Fast – Get 20 “Shut’em Down Medals
Jack of All Trades – Get 15 Triple Threat Medals
You Run, I’ll Shoot – Get 10 Protectorate Medals
Back At Ya – Get 50 Retaliation Medals
Kneel Before Z… – Get 5 Put-em Down Medals

Silver:
Rock a Rhyme – Get 100 Tricky Medals

We’ve put screenshots of The Museum and The Highrise, a few Siege gameplay images and character renders of all the new multiplayer skins in the Siege Expansion Pack Set on our Flickr page.

The PlayStation.Blog.Europe has all the information, including pricing, for our fans in Europe.

Shortly prior to the when the Siege Expansion Pack goes on sale, Title Update 1.07 will be released. We’ll provide more info what’s in Title Update 1.07 as we get closer to release. For those of you wondering—this title update won’t make any changes to bring multiplayer back to 1.04/pre-1.04—but, there are some great updates in that we’re pretty certain you’ll like quite a bit! "

dogdoctor

04-10-10, 11:47 AM

And Speculation/confirmation?? at IGN: http://betaboards.ign.com/ps3_lobby/b8269/190741096/p1

"Updates include:

-Headshot hitboxes edited to take less damage
-Grenade radius changed back but you no longer spawn with grenades
-Spawn point updates to all maps
-Ranked games removed from playlist
-Maintenance for servers to increase hit detection
-Rewind has been added to Cinema mode
-Can now send Cinema files to HDD
-Wes.44 has been added to The Facility, The Fort and The Flooded Ruins
-Crossbow added to the Lost City and the Village

But here's the big stuff folks:

-VIP Assassination and Sudden Death Plunder (no respawns) added to playlist

-Personalize the machinima map with barries, crates, weapons etc for use in custom games

-Co-op Zombie mode, fight off wave after wavew of spaniards with up to three friends inside The Facility

But that's not all:

All of these will be available in Update 1.07 which will be relased alongside the newest DLC: "Heroes Arena pack" which will include three brand new maps entitled "Chimeran Tower" "Visari's palace" and "Ground Central" more details and screenshots will soon follow.

All of this will be available to download on any day which isn't Apirl Fools day!"

KingShorty

04-10-10, 03:51 PM

Sounds interesting. If they do fix some of the stuff, maybe this game can return to prominence. The one thing that has me hooked is the little homage to Superman in the trophy called "Kneel before Z..." what can I say, I'm a Superman fanatic.

thedrizzle85

04-10-10, 04:48 PM

sweet, i new about the DLC but not the 1.07, thanks doc. hopefully some things do get fixed...only time will tell i guess.

joeblow

04-10-10, 06:08 PM

dogdoctor

04-10-10, 06:57 PM

Also, why do so many people complain about the 1.05 and 1.06 updates? If you were killing a bunch on 1.04, it should be easier now for you. This is the first shooter game I have ever played on-line, and caught the tail end of 1.04
since I got if for Christmas. I really can't judge how different it felt on 1.04, since I mainly played co-op then.I don't know. Maybe cause it's not fun! Yes if you killed alot on 1.04 you could be lighting it up on 1.06, but since they tweaked the weapon damage system it takes less to kill you. Getting into cover is a joke. It's become if you get spotted first (across the whole map too), you've got a 90%+ chance your going to die. Where as before if you got spotted you could duck into cover, and maybe take them out. There is also perks for running and gunning award and $. You can't even use them becuase if you're that close to someone for that to work, your about to be hit with a 2 bullets and smacked down with a puch.

This is how in my layman's terms I see 1.06. 1.04 was good for all. Everyone could get kills and avoid getting killed. Grenades were glitchy, but glitchy for all. On 1.06 only the elite (with Sit Aware) at FPS/TPS are having any fun. While us mediocres are just getting our asses handed to us. While ND has tried to make the game better in playability, it really has shyed away from the appeal it had at the very beginning wich was where casual gamers could have a good time. If I wanted to play in a crushing playlist I would. I don't and unfortunately 1.06 essentially made it seem that way across the board.

drummernrg

04-10-10, 07:49 PM

The guy posting that doesn't have a legit link. Looks fake.

It had my hopes up for a moment, but it was posted on April 1st! :rolleyes:

KingShorty

04-11-10, 03:08 PM

This is how in my layman's terms I see 1.06. 1.04 was good for all. Everyone could get kills and avoid getting killed. Grenades were glitchy, but glitchy for all. On 1.06 only the elite (with Sit Aware) at FPS/TPS are having any fun. While us mediocres are just getting our asses handed to us. While ND has tried to make the game better in playability, it really has shyed away from the appeal it had at the very beginning wich was where casual gamers could have a good time. If I wanted to play in a crushing playlist I would. I don't and unfortunately 1.06 essentially made it seem that way across the board.

I was doing OK with 1.06, my main gripe with it was the way they "rebalanced" the weapons (i.e. making the FAL have slower bursts). Also, the amount of people that use "situational awareness" really killed the game... might as well be MW2 with people using the "heartbeat sensor" all day.

drummernrg

04-11-10, 07:37 PM

the amount of people that use "situational awareness" really killed the game...

Evasion, where art thou? :rolleyes:

Rare96ws6

04-12-10, 01:08 AM

I don't know. Maybe cause it's not fun! Yes if you killed alot on 1.04 you could be lighting it up on 1.06, but since they tweaked the weapon damage system it takes less to kill you. Getting into cover is a joke. It's become if you get spotted first (across the whole map too), you've got a 90%+ chance your going to die. Where as before if you got spotted you could duck into cover, and maybe take them out. There is also perks for running and gunning award and $. You can't even use them becuase if you're that close to someone for that to work, your about to be hit with a 2 bullets and smacked down with a puch.

This is how in my layman's terms I see 1.06. 1.04 was good for all. Everyone could get kills and avoid getting killed. Grenades were glitchy, but glitchy for all. On 1.06 only the elite (with Sit Aware) at FPS/TPS are having any fun. While us mediocres are just getting our asses handed to us. While ND has tried to make the game better in playability, it really has shyed away from the appeal it had at the very beginning wich was where casual gamers could have a good time. If I wanted to play in a crushing playlist I would. I don't and unfortunately 1.06 essentially made it seem that way across the board.

I see. So on 1.04 you actually had a chance to find cover if getting shot at. I agree with you that this is one thing I don't like anout 1.06. It sounds like 1.07 will be good, but I don't like spawning with no grenades. I rarely throw them, but use Revenge to get an occasional kill. I don't think I will be going to grenade spawn points just to keep this booster on. I'll have to find another I like.
I am a mediocre palyer myself with a 1 to 1 kill ratio. I am usually dead in a long range gun fight, but in close I usually win. I need to get better at aiming quickly. I can lock on, but the other guy usually does quicker. I uped the sensitivity this past week, so this should help. it will get some getting used to though.
The new updates and DLC sounds cool!

dogdoctor

04-12-10, 01:23 PM

Evasion, where art thou? :rolleyes:And exactly how helpful is that to you. :rolleyes:

So you get to waste a booster (doesn't help you at all in any way shape or form) to just not be seen from people running sit. aware. I'm sorry, but if people want to run sit. aware, I shouldn't be forced into running with it as well, or running evasion. And for the record I don't do either. But it is utter BS in my book. They've nerf the grenades, they've nerf the down the irons, they've nerf the FAL. They've nerfed everything but the single most annoying booster that IMO, is way too overpowered now. All you see online for the msot part is Sit Aware with rocket man, launch man. And why not? I mean if I was to exploit 1.06 for all it's got, i would too. Since all you really need to know is where people are and you can go on killing streaks all you want.

Sit. Aware needs to be nerfed. End of story. It needs to work just like a weapon respawn. You use it once and now you have 1 minute before you can use it again. Then those shotgun, corner, sit. aware campers can't just sit there the whole time pressing the up arrow. And i'll be dammed if I'm going to waste a booster just trying to avoid those pricks. But the game is a whole lot less fun because of them.

Bazylik

04-12-10, 02:51 PM

hmm I don't know, I missed 1.4 update and just updated to 1.6 and was owning like I did when the game came out. I see more people are using awareness and they are annoying but if you're running a lot it's much harder for them to get you.

Now, seeing april 1st on that 1.7 update makes me think it's all fake.

Zookster

04-12-10, 03:45 PM

joeblow

04-12-10, 04:00 PM

If you were getting killed despite getting the drop on someone back when you played because they were too tough to take down, it sounds as if the latest patch would benefit your style. Keep in mind that it all may change with the next announced pack however since not everyone is enjoying some of the changes that have been made (like being killed faster).

Maybe the balanced solution is to allow CQ weapons be the ones to deal a quick death when in close (i.e. shotties), and keep the damage done by longer range weapons under control.

dogdoctor

04-12-10, 04:11 PM

Based on these comments, it doesn't sound like I'll be much happier with multiplayer now than I was back in late November when I quit playing in frustration.

I just finished my Crushing run last night and was thinking of getting back into MP with these updates. When I quit, I would normally get 3-4 kills and die 8-10 times in Deathmatch, using stealthy tactics mostly. Yes, I sucked, but the thing that bothered me the most was getting several shots on someone, who wouldn't go down, while I would get knocked off with just a couple of shots, it seemed. I got my rank up to 12, and had a few boosters at my disposal, but just felt totally overmatched in these games against players ranked 40+.

So will it be worse or better now for me and do any of these changes affect co-op?
I'm thinking of getting the Siege DLC.I suspect that you will be fine. But then again, it really depends on how quickly you can drop a shot (headshots, headshots, headshots!) on someone.

I was 700+ kills at 1.4 and since 1.6 I'm down to <300+ kills. So you can take that 1 of 2 ways. Either I was better at the game before 1.6 or I'm the same and this rebalancing thing is a little out of whack.

I hope you get the drop on someone, but due note, that you cannot likely get to cover if you aren't already in it.

Like I said earlier, that if those that are playing are owning with 1.6, then you are already IMO a very good to decent player. I would call myself average (maybe a little better), and well, I enjoyed the game immensely more at 1.4.

Rare96ws6

04-13-10, 05:57 AM

And exactly how helpful is that to you. :rolleyes:

So you get to waste a booster (doesn't help you at all in any way shape or form) to just not be seen from people running sit. aware. I'm sorry, but if people want to run sit. aware, I shouldn't be forced into running with it as well, or running evasion. And for the record I don't do either. But it is utter BS in my book. They've nerf the grenades, they've nerf the down the irons, they've nerf the FAL. They've nerfed everything but the single most annoying booster that IMO, is way too overpowered now. All you see online for the msot part is Sit Aware with rocket man, launch man. And why not? I mean if I was to exploit 1.06 for all it's got, i would too. Since all you really need to know is where people are and you can go on killing streaks all you want.

Sit. Aware needs to be nerfed. End of story. It needs to work just like a weapon respawn. You use it once and now you have 1 minute before you can use it again. Then those shotgun, corner, sit. aware campers can't just sit there the whole time pressing the up arrow. And i'll be dammed if I'm going to waste a booster just trying to avoid those pricks. But the game is a whole lot less fun because of them.

I don't always use it, but I like Situational Awareness. I have noticed though, that when I use it, I don't get near as many kills. It slows you down always looking for people. It is good if you fight in close like I do alot, but using it I can't get 20 kills in a death match. I like to use it and find the campers! That is a riot.
Also, if a player is running around alot then a person with Sit. A. on is not going to get them very much unless they run right into them.
I don't know how good Down the Irons was on 1.04, but I still get killed by this booster quite often. When I mentioned earlier in this thread that I normally lose a gun fight when I go head to head with someone far away, they usually have D.T.I on.
The grenades must have been awesome before 1.05/6 then, becasue I look on naughty Dog's site and over 15% of the times I have been killed is by grenades, and I started playing on the tail end of 1.05!
You mentioned the nerfed Fal. I did play enough with this gun before the change and I completely agree. I used to fight to get the Fal when the match started. Now I usually just keep the AK.
Currently my favorite boosters are From the Hip and Revenge. F.T.H. compliments my in close fighting and revenge kills someone every once in a while if they are not paying attention.

Rare96ws6

04-13-10, 06:08 AM

Here is a link that shows the weapon damage between update 1.04 and 1.05. Anyone have this info. for 1.06? Does the small difference from body to head shots really make a huge difference? If so, this may be one reason I usually lose the long range fights. I just try to hit the target.

http://saint.waterscape.cc/2010/02/uncharted-2-title-update-1-05-weapon-damage-changelist/

eddy_winds

04-13-10, 08:50 AM

Uncharted 2's Next DLC Adds New Co-Op Siege Mode

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w300/eddy_winds/35uc2-siege.jpg

Despite a new co-op mode "not being likely" we got information about a new co-op mode coming to Uncharted 2 via a leak. Today we have the official announcement and screens straight from Sony and Naughty Dog that unveil the next piece of content to be released on April 22nd.

The new co-op mode is called Siege, which sounds like a cross between a territories style match and a survival mode like Gears of War 2's Horde mode. The mode has players holding a territory on the map while surviving waves of enemies. During the course of a match the territories will shift between locations, forcing players to work together to move and work together to live. Expect the action to be incredibly fast paced and hectic.

Two new maps will be included for specifically for Siege -

The Highrise, which provides "plenty of opportunities for players to get the high ground on their opponents," is set in Nepal.

The Museum has fortune hunters working "across rooftops, and through twisting corridors," along "numerous flank routes" and over "secret climbing routes" to have a leg up on enemies.

Additionally the DLC will include six new multiplayer skins and 11 new trophies, most of which appear to be geared towards co-op. While it's still not a true co-op addon for the game, it Siege does sound unique enough to make the content worth while.

The total cost of the package is $5.99

new-co-op-siege-mode (http://www.co-optimus.com/article/3756/uncharted-2-s-next-dlc-adds-new-co-op-siege-mode.html)

KingShorty

04-13-10, 10:32 AM

Bazylik

04-13-10, 11:28 AM

More people should be playing co-op :( it's so much fun. Also, plunder is fun as well and no one seems to be playing that either. This game offers so many MP options and people only stick to deathmatch, boring.

Last night I also encountered a dude who was abusing Sit Awe, damn these punks are annoying.

joeblow

04-13-10, 11:42 AM

I'm looking forward to getting my first UC2 DLC in Siege. I've always been a huge fan of co-op modes and thought that the game didn't ship with enough of that for my tastes.

dogdoctor

04-13-10, 12:54 PM

I'm looking forward to getting my first UC2 DLC in Siege. I've always been a huge fan of co-op modes and thought that the game didn't ship with enough of that for my tastes.Joe...just for the record the trophies are also up online. You can't see them when you directly look at your trophies. But if you compare yourself to someone and look at the U2 trophies, you can see all the new ones at the bottom.

Also: King. After you took off last night I got mixed in with a group from overseas. We played nothing but objective based games (rotational). I must say it was fun for a change just to have Sniper rife and Pistole matches. Maybe we just need to mix it up again.

Rare96ws6

04-13-10, 11:53 PM

Last night was kinda fun... took me a round to get back into the groove of things but after that it was pretty ok... I know what it takes to kill me and it's not skill, it's people using Sit Aware or Down-the-Irons. Anybody not using that will lose in a fight against me 9 times out of 10.

I like From The Hip more than Down The Irons. More people use D.T.I., but I like fighting in close to midrange and F.T.H. compliments my run and gun style. I very rarely lose in close with the pistol, but don't have the finess down for pulling the long gun up, aiming, then shooting perfectly to put the target down before I get put down. I can get great head shots all day long on co-op, but going against real people it is better for me right now to blind fire.
I don't think I lag at all, so it is strange that I lose so many long range fights. I have good reaction time; great infact. I have the reastion time of a female, which is supposed to be quicker than the avg. males! Racing at the track I always get a great reacion time, but it does not seem to translate to this game:(

Tehmk

04-14-10, 08:30 AM

I'm pretty glad the Uncharted devs are supporting the game, the new maps and skins will be a welcome addition. I need to start getting off MW2 and playing UC2 again. :D

Kingram

04-14-10, 09:28 AM

The new maps and skins are great but they need to get back to 1.04 before they lose their fan base.

Rare96ws6

04-14-10, 11:41 PM

Another player mentioned to me that there was at one time over 1 million playing this game on-line when it came out. I usually see about 55k to 70k a day now. Was there really that many playing?
Also, does anyone know why there are so many people not listed on the leader boards anymore? Even some players on my friends list are not showing up in the leader boards. It looks like players that have not played in a while are not listed, but I am not 100% sure.

musick

04-16-10, 12:33 AM

drummernrg

04-16-10, 02:53 PM

drummernrg

04-16-10, 03:23 PM

I'll pick up online play again soon, certainly when the new DLC arrives next week.

I've been replaying Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, I just got it back this week! It has been a blast to play through the Fortress and Customs House (the basis for the Fort and the Flooded Ruins U2:AT multiplayer maps) and look at it with fresh eyes.

They really tightened up the controls in U2:AT, compared to Drake's Fortune:

- you have to switch weapons to throw a grenade (that is a pain)
- weapons do not have a scope/zoom in feature (except the Dragon sniper)
- melee feels lethargic (it is really hard to pull off a brutal combo)
- Drake's reaction time seems a little slower, he doesn't move as easily

As a game player, U2:AT has improved me because I looked at my play through medals in Drake's Fortune, I:

- played through once back in 2007, on normal mode (now I can't wait to replay it on crushing)
- didn't get any stealth kills (I guess I didn't realize they existed and I think the lethargic melee played a big role here)
- didn't get 10 kills hanging from a ledge (think U2:AT Tricky medal)
- didn't get 10 kills running and gunning (I guess I didn't think about playing this way)
- didn't really go into the rewards "store" and unlock weapons or skins

Thinking back, I think I really was mesmerized by the entire experience of Drake's Fortune, because it felt like I was playing a movie and I couldn't put it down. After finishing it over a few nights one week, I immediately loaned it to a friend, telling him: "you've got to try this out!"

Now, I'm going back into it as a more experienced gamer for my Platinum Trophy (U2:AT was my first). Trophy support was added to the game after I played it in 2007.

dogdoctor

04-16-10, 04:19 PM

musick

04-17-10, 01:24 AM

I've been playing multiplayer since the public beta, two weeks before release. I don't recall when they switched the online stats from current players online versus daily players (1.04 time frame?).

Throughout 2009, it was typical to see 4K players online at night and I think the peak I saw was around 16K online during the weekend. When the stats switched to daily players, it has been consistent from 55K/day during the week to nearly 80K/day on the weekends.

Honestly, with all of the complaints people have had since 1.04, I've not seen a significant dip in the online population -- it seems consistent.

I think online population attrition is normal as people grind to a halt towards achieving level 60 (X) or dislike 1.04+ game play changes, but they are replaced by new people world wide who have purchased the game and are moving up through the ranks.

whether it changed with the latest update or when MW2 came out or when GOWIII came it may be hard to pinpoint but I don't put much stock in the #'s that show as far as daily players ... fact is it has taken much longer recently for matchmaking to not only put you into a match (I keep commenting that if I changed my name to "Waiting for player" I'd have no problems at all) but to put you into a match that isn't less than 5 on 5.
It's beyond frustrating to sit there as the matchmaking cycles through for 10+ minutes even with backing out

I also don't believe this game is a huge worldwide hit ... most of its sales have come from NA ... the lack of a large international community does make it harder to find games late at night (at least this is when I play most of the time)

I loved the MP from day 1 and still do despite any of the tweeks but there is no doubt in my mind there has been a drop off in players

I would have loved to have seen ND give some of that initial DLC away for free to get people back into the fold

eddy_winds

04-22-10, 11:43 AM

dogdoctor

04-22-10, 12:41 PM

UNCHARTED 2 Siege Expansion Pack Coming This Thursday, Double Cash Weekend Returns!

To celebrate the release of the Siege Expansion Pack, this weekend marks the return of Double Cash Weekend!

Starts: Friday, April 23, 10:00 AM PDT

Ends: Monday, April 26, 10:00 AM PDT

double-cash-weekend-returns (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/04/21/uncharted-2-siege-expansion-pack-coming-this-thursday-double-cash-weekend-returns/#more-27925)I ****ing knew it. I get requested to go fly out for a Monday interview and they pulls this. :rolleyes: Damn them. Seriously I know it's not their fault, but I was screwed out of the last one as well. Damnit...looks like I will be needing to make up as much of it as I can on Friday and Saturday. :mad:

As for 1.07 yesterday. I played into the wee hours again and honestly it felt very good. The grenades still have those moments of not taking someone out, but for the most part they are much better about knocking people out or over. As for the balance to the weapons, damage, it felt much better last night. Not quite 1.04, but definately better. I was able to get into cover a lot before dying. Unfortanately it doesn't seen that they did anything with Situtational Awareness. Sigh. One can only hope.

drummernrg

04-22-10, 04:33 PM

Boston Litigator

04-22-10, 04:35 PM

hit me up in you are looking to play online mighty-gli

dogdoctor

04-22-10, 05:51 PM

Well cool, I'll try to pick up the DLC tonight + FW 3.30. I downloaded 1.07 last night, but didn't get to play. See ya all online soon!

Did you see the preview videos of the new maps on IGN? They look great.

FYI: Target is selling $20 PSN cards for $17 in stores this week, I've never seen a sale on PSN cards ever before.

Final note: Naughty Dog opened up forums earlier this week @ http://forums.naughtydog.com/Hey Kik, you need to ask Austin about his butt whoopin' two night ago. My crew + Victor got placed against Boom, Aust, Bopper, WV and some other player. Let's just say it wasn't pretty. I (yes me), went 57-30. That is just amazing. I've never broken 50, and to break the barrier and almost break 60 was a great feeling. While the match was a disaster for them, it was all in good fun.

drummernrg

04-22-10, 06:49 PM

you need to ask Austin about his butt whoopin' two night ago.... it was all in good fun.

Wow, he's been off for quite a while IMHO, which puts him below par for my game play level. Congrats on the 57 kills, that's Jack_Bauer_Clone territory!

Has anybody reached X yet? Will you still play with a lowly level 55 like me?

It really feels like I've not played forever, looking forward to seeing everyone online, it's been a while!

Gumbi

04-23-10, 05:29 AM

I've been playing this quite a bit lately. Hit me up also!

Jeff

eddy_winds

04-23-10, 10:10 AM

The new maps are amazing....They are beautifully rendered and they are so much fun. The Highrise is a new favorite map. The game is fun (siege mode)...

This is the best DLC by far...anyone agree?

dogdoctor

04-23-10, 01:38 PM

DLC is awesome. But damn, plunder is a beyoch to play on High Rise. And if you want to have any luck, best be sure to use Evasion. Way, way to many hiding spots.

As for Double Points: according to Drizzle - Points Cap at 150,000 per match. Not too shabby! I can't wait to do some real point scoring tonight.

Bazylik

04-26-10, 09:27 AM

The Highrise is the worst map to hit U2 yet, especially if playing Plunder mode. Idiots playing this mode don't help either.
The Museum on the other hand is fantastic, a really great map, I like the placements of the plunder chests, it makes for a really tight plunder matches.

The siege mode is awesome, too. Overall, 6 bucks well spent.

joeblow

04-26-10, 10:24 AM

I played all weekend for the first time since a week after completing the solo game, mainly because of the co-op DLC. What a fun pack it is.

I put in so much time that I went from Level 18 to Level 40 (I guess the 2x points helped ;)). Highrise is such a fantastic looking map; while dead I would cycle through the aerial camera shots just to enjoy the view. Hands down U2 is still the best looking game I've played.

drummernrg

04-26-10, 03:25 PM

What a fun weekend! To explore new maps and figure out how to get around, learn where the weapons are, find where snipers like to camp -- all the while with friends was great. The 150K cap was icing on the cake.

The museum map just feels huge and the hi-rise map rewards vertical thinking, but man that helicopter rocket punch is brutal! :~)

It is extremely easy to be outflanked on most of the hi-rise and we were schooled by a clan of b*stard green skeletons there, but to have everything feel new again was awesome. It was a sore point, so for therapy we would go out of the way after green skeletons for the rest of the weekend.

I never shouted "Get Off of My Lawn!" so much in my life and I got to level 56. I can't believe I'm still playing Uncharted 2 multiplayer: I didn't ever think I'd get past level 50 or play past January.

Now that the weekend is over, I'm out of Plunder exclusive mode. I'll set up a custom match and explore the new maps. Who's up for some crushing objective co-op and siege medals?

joeblow

04-26-10, 06:03 PM

How do you select crushing difficulty for the Siege mod?

Rare96ws6

04-26-10, 11:43 PM

You can't select Crushing diffeculty for seige, gold rush or survival. it is only selectable on your plater card for the co-op objective games. I just finished them on Hard mode myself. Now we get a trophy for crushing!

Rare96ws6

04-26-10, 11:47 PM

This weekend was fun with ther new maps and all. Playing was a blast, since everyone was just in it to hit the $150k mark. I put on "half loaded" and hit it many times.
The only down side is that since patch 1.07, I can't play with some of my friends. It imediately kicks one of us out when joining each other. The only way around it seems to be to have a mutual friend invite both of us, but even then we can not hear each other, although the mutual friend can hear us both.
Anyone else experience this? If so, what is the work around?

thanks.

eddy_winds

04-27-10, 09:26 AM

The only way around it seems to be to have a mutual friend invite both of us, but even then we can not hear each other, although the mutual friend can hear us both.
Anyone else experience this? If so, what is the work around?

Have you tried logging off..

rebooting the PS3(helps with the mic issues too)

Also hit reply to the 'party invite' you received

To join a group of friends if your having trouble
;)

Rare96ws6

04-28-10, 03:05 AM

Rebooting while it happened helped with one friend, but not with all of them. When replying to an invite, I can join a friend, but then imediately get kicked and end up alone in the lobby. Others have told me it has been happening to them too, so maybe it is a glitch with 1.07.
I have 2 friends that I still can't pair up with unless someone else invites both of us, one of which I can't ever hear when we do play together.

eddy_winds

04-28-10, 09:18 AM

so maybe it is a glitch with 1.07

Been happening since 1.04 etc..

ugabuga

04-28-10, 01:44 PM

Hey just bought the new dlc. Anyone up for coop after 6 est hit me up.. psn id- hooter_hunter

drummernrg

05-23-10, 03:31 PM

There was a "Live" update earlier this week to help with map glitches, not a full title update.

Take a look: http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/introducing_the_lab_playlist_and_double_cash_weekend_may_28_ to_june_1/

Short story: there will be a new playlist on the successive weekends for:
- 2x2 Deathmatch
- Shotguns only
- Sniper Elimination

There's been community discussion in the ND forums about Title Update 1.08, but nothing has been officially declared. They are continuing to work on map glitches.

I've slowed down playing since reaching level 56 on the last double cash weekend, but the next double cash weekend will probably get me to 57. I also have a backlog of too many other games, but I still enjoy Uncharted 2 a lot.

eddy_winds

05-24-10, 08:52 AM

Next weekend – May 28 to June 1 – we’re introducing a new playlist that will mix things up and maybe, possibly lead to updates or additions to the existing playlists in competitive Matchmaking. We’re calling this playlist “The Lab.”

We’ll be running “The Lab” Playlist roughly every other weekend for the foreseeable future.

During each weekend “The Lab” is active, we’ll be running a playlist featuring one or more custom-tuned gametype variations from the tons of variables we can tweak in our multiplayer gameplay settings.

We’ll also be hosting a new thread for every event on our Naughty Dog community forums to get your feedback and thoughts on each one of our “The Lab” events.

Here’s the current schedule and descriptions for the first three events in our “The Lab” Playlist series:

May 28 – June 1
2 vs. 2 Team Deathmatch
Grab a partner for this small- to medium-size map mow-down. You’ve got 15 minutes to rack up 25 kills, or more than the other team, to prove your small-team superiority. I’m going to recommend now that you’re going to want pick a reliable teammate you want to play with over the weekend…

June 11 – 14
Shotguns Only
We’re serving up short-range mayhem as all players and maps spawn with Moss-12 and Pistole only. Oh, and NO grenades.

June 25 – 28
Sniper Extermination
Two teams. Dragon Sniper rifles. One life per round. Best of 5 rounds takes the match win. Absolutely tense, totally tactical.

Keep track of future updates on “The Lab” including updated schedules through “The Lab” topic in our community forums or through “The Lab” blog keyword tag.

Of course, to commemorate the launch of “The Lab” Playlist program will be a Double Cash Weekend!

Starts: Friday, May 28, 10:00 AM PDT (what time is that in my city?)
Ends: Tuesday, June 1, 10:00 AM PDT (what time is that in my city?)

As with our previous Double Cash Weekend, the per match cash limit has also been raised to $150,000 maximum per match.

There was a "Live" update earlier this week to help with map glitches, not a full title update.

Take a look: http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/introducing_the_lab_playlist_and_double_cash_weekend_may_28_ to_june_1/

Amp98

05-27-10, 11:58 AM

Ravenous112

05-27-10, 12:38 PM

I ussually see drummernrg online playing it, but I haven't been paying much attention as I've been hooked on Red Dead Redemption. dogdoctor should be on some since he's dead determined to reach lvl 60.

dogdoctor

05-27-10, 01:46 PM

I borrowed this game a few months ago from a friend and beat the single player campaign but never really got into the multi-player. I recently picked up my own copy and a blue-tooth headset. I would like to start playing multi-player but currently don't have any friends with the game. Are you guys still playing a lot or have you pretty much moved on to other games?Yes. Still playing and lots of us are. Not necessarily from AVS. Drop me an invite. I play mostly 11:30pm - 3:30am PST. :cool: But with this double cash weekend and no work anything goes. :D

I ussually see drummernrg online playing it, but I haven't been paying much attention as I've been hooked on Red Dead Redemption. dogdoctor should be on some since he's dead determined to reach lvl 60.Yes. And with this 150K cap this weekend, I'll be charging headlong into level 59 (only 3 mil left to reach IX). :p

drummernrg

05-27-10, 03:03 PM

Wow, you go dogdoc! 3M is completely doable and I need the same amount to reach level 57. I'm sure we'll both achieve it this weekend! :~)

I've been working on my game backlog: Wolverine and Prince of Persia: TFS right now. I would have played Uncharted multiplayer this week, but I've been waiting for the double-cash weekend.

P.S. Rav: did you see my question in the RDR thread? I'm curious how the posse is doing.

KingShorty

05-27-10, 05:38 PM

Notsobright

05-27-10, 08:47 PM

Well, for those of you that are excited about this weekend, I hope you make the most of it.

F--- You, Naughty Dog! F--- You! for ruining what was, once, such a fun and exciting and innovating multiplayer experience.

cry me a river.

KingShorty

05-27-10, 10:54 PM

cry me a river.

go fly a kite.

Gumbi

05-28-10, 01:02 PM

Hey just bought the new dlc. Anyone up for coop after 6 est hit me up.. psn id- hooter_hunter

I still play on a weekly basis. Ill send a friend request this weekend.

Jeff

Gumbi

05-28-10, 06:24 PM

Been happening since 1.04 etc..

Sounds like you guys are having some NAT issues....

Jeff

Amp98

05-28-10, 06:51 PM

Yes. Still playing and lots of us are. Not necessarily from AVS. Drop me an invite. I play mostly 11:30pm - 3:30am PST. :cool: But with this double cash weekend and no work anything goes. :D

What's your PSN ID? Is it the same as your user id here?

Anyone else who doesn't mind playing with someone who isn't very good yet my PSN Id is "AmpTheGreat"

dogdoctor

05-28-10, 09:03 PM

What's your PSN ID? Is it the same as your user id here?

Anyone else who doesn't mind playing with someone who isn't very good yet my PSN Id is "AmpTheGreat"Check out my signature. :p Oh and not very good...don't worry. I went 9-0 in a deathmatch tow nights ago only to follow that act with a 16-32. Ouch. I try to play with some mixed characters. There are the ringers who can win the game on their own. Then there is the rest of us. lol

dogdoctor

05-29-10, 01:06 PM

Sweet! Level 59! Hot damn played from 10:30pm to 6am last night. Hello Millions!

dogdoctor

06-02-10, 12:06 PM

After a mad, mad 4 days of dedication. I'm a level 60! Just in time to now have my name run around on the matchs with a big "X" for the world to see and hunt me down. Great, like I didn't have problems before.

So in short I made 17.7 Mil in 4 short days. 17.3 Was with double points. ~400K was without. :D Bummed that they had to turn it off. I was just 3 games (aka 1.5 hours in plunder) short on double points, which turned into more like 10 - 12 (aka 3 - 4 hours in plunder) once they turned it off. Bastards (ok it was only 8 hours after they said they would ;)).

1.08 UPDATE: User Findings Yesterday.

Fixed Glitches.
Can't change boosters after 3 seconds before the game. (Removes triple booster glitch).
Lvl 60, if you have it, now shows next to the username (above your head) in matches.
According to some, the aim sensitivity has been adjusted (for the better).

Kingram

06-02-10, 03:32 PM

confidenceman

06-02-10, 05:20 PM

dogdoctor

06-02-10, 06:03 PM

So I haven't been following this very closely, and I haven't put much time in the competitive MP for Uncharted 2 (played much more co-op). I keep meaning to get back into it, but other games keep distracting me.

What is it exactly that ND is changing that is so detrimental to the online game?

1. grenades plain suck, but are no where near as bad as they made them. You practically had to lay a goose egg on one for it to kill you. :mad:

2. fal ammo fire rate reduced to slow down kills with it. still is a brutal weapon but not nearly as good as before. :cool:

3. Clip size of sniper is smaller. Hit detection is now 1 - hit direct body shot or head shot. 2 or more to any extremities. :confused: At least they could make a leg shot a know down to pick him off again. Nope. :rolleyes:

4. They never made a crushing playlist. They just made everyone play crushing. At one point the game was if your spotted your dead. Even if you try to get into cover. It's been reversed some, but you still die a lot faster than when the game was launched. Because of it, it has become for the most part camp and situational awareness fests. :mad:

5. spawns that are unbearable and stupid. you spawn and either at the same time (you can see them) or a fraction there of after, enemy spawns in exactly the same spawn. Alas : instant death from behind. :mad:

6. Corners of the map that are completely protected making it impossible to get people corner firing (firing with fal through the rock) at you can yet you can't hit them. Nice! :rolleyes:

7. lag, foreign server lag, until recent triple - quad boostering glitch, random drops of the connection, random splitting of parties, random splitting of parties into 2 separate games (happened to me twice), and I'm sure the list goes on...

the main one was point 4. If I wanted to die faster I would play crushing. I don't need to be forced into it with all those that like it. As a result, many, many of the casual gamers went away.

confidenceman

06-03-10, 12:10 AM

the main one was point 4. If I wanted to die faster I would play crushing. I don't need to be forced into it with all those that like it. As a result, many, many of the casual gamers went away.Wow. That sounds pretty inexcusable across the board. Really major changes to institute this far into the game's life. Is this just an inexperienced multiplayer dev team balancing the game into oblivion? Or do you all feel like they're just using you as "guinea pigs"/"beta testers" for Uncharted 3's MP modes?

It's really kind of surprising to see just how many changes they're still making. Why wouldn't they just leave well enough alone with just a few minor tweaks along the way? Then release DLC maps. That's what most MP devs do. Really strange.

Ravenous112

06-03-10, 01:55 AM

I'm sure some of it is inexperience. When the game first launched there were alot of complaints about the gameplay (people able to roll through a hailstorm of bullets without a scratch...) and it seems like they've tried to change the game based on some of the complaints, but they can't please everybody. There are alot of us that loved the game at launch, but felt that there were some hit detection issues that needed to be addressed. They've somehow taken that to meaning they need to completely change the overall gameplay after they had 2 beta launches and well after the final release of the game.

PS, Dogdoctor I spent 10 min getting the new patch/updates to help you the other day and you told me I couldn't join you anyway... Ouch man.

bob_c_b

06-03-10, 07:53 AM

I'm usually a middle of the pack player in most competitive shooters (with occaissional brillaint rounds, but overall I'm average), but I'm pretty meh at this game for some reason. I did grind it out to 14 this weekend (have only played about 4-5 hours of multi total) and DTI and KF perks seem to be helping, but it does feel like this game is, I dunno'.... harder than it's needs to be in some ways?

dogdoctor

06-03-10, 11:33 AM

PS, Dogdoctor I spent 10 min getting the new patch/updates to help you the other day and you told me I couldn't join you anyway... Ouch man.I messaged you to tell you that I couldn't play with you because you would need to update to 1.08. I was still playing on 1.07 and I didn't want to give it up double points if it went away with 1.08. I tried to get you to continue with RDR rather than U2 because of that, but you got out too fast. Sorry you wasted 10 min. I'll think before I ask better in the future.

I'm usually a middle of the pack player in most competitive shooters (with occaissional brillaint rounds, but overall I'm average), but I'm pretty meh at this game for some reason. I did grind it out to 14 this weekend (have only played about 4-5 hours of multi total) and DTI and KF perks seem to be helping, but it does feel like this game is, I dunno'.... harder than it's needs to be in some ways?That's how I feel too.

dogdoctor

06-03-10, 12:45 PM

Wow. That sounds pretty inexcusable across the board. Really major changes to institute this far into the game's life. Is this just an inexperienced multiplayer dev team balancing the game into oblivion? Or do you all feel like they're just using you as "guinea pigs"/"beta testers" for Uncharted 3's MP modes?

It's really kind of surprising to see just how many changes they're still making. Why wouldn't they just leave well enough alone with just a few minor tweaks along the way? Then release DLC maps. That's what most MP devs do. Really strange.well to be honest they did guinea pig it. they announced a new health change weekend as a test for a crushing playlist. that weekend was brutal. but it was just a weekend. I about turned off the game for the weekend at that time. so the weekend came and went. then a poll went up about did you like it. apparently the vote was like 51% in favor, 49% against. but I guess the "majority" voted for the game change and that is when the health and power of the weapons started changing around. What sucks is that 49% of the people didn't like the changes and many of those folks after about a few weeks, just quit. The daily player numbers dropped off dramatically and getting into full rooms, good games, just became a very inconsistent thing of the past.

I've kept at it, but it's been more of a chore with some good times. before it was all good times and kicking back.

So yes, they did guinea pig us at times, and then they went ahead and made changes that nearly 50% of their fan base disliked. Not a smart move in my book. But who am I to say.

confidenceman

06-03-10, 03:14 PM

well to be honest they did guinea pig it.Any ideas how the lifetime numbers have been online?

Reviews barely touched on the multiplayer features. The single player game was so heavily praised that there wasn't a lot of talk pre-launch or post-launch about the multiplayer stuff. I think they're gearing up to go against the big boys (Halo, CoD, Gears).

Seems like they're using you all to try and get it as perfect as possible for Uncharted 3. But the problem is that if they don't call it a "beta," they end up souring their most dedicated fan-base (you) in the process of constant iteration/balancing--especially if they're testing some major changes. Seems like ND is taking advantage of the relatively small (but very dedicated) online fanbase for Uncharted 2. I'm sure they know that if they were to set up separate "beta" servers, they wouldn't be able to test their tweaks on big enough numbers. Not cool. :rolleyes:

For all the complaints about "it should have been released as DLC," this is exactly why Capcom released Super Street Fighter 4 as a totally separate game from Street Fighter 4. You don't go in and start messing with the balancing of a completed online game, other than to fix very small balancing issues, glitches, and egregious exploits.

As for me, I loved the co-op features in Uncharted 2. It's by far my favorite co-op experience. But because they started focusing so much on the competitive stuff, I lost interest and haven't played it in a while. Have they done similar tweaks to the co-op game?

dogdoctor

06-03-10, 04:13 PM

Any ideas how the lifetime numbers have been online?I have no idea, but daily player #s are tracked on your home screen in mulitplayer. I suspect its down from what it could have been.

As for me, I loved the co-op features in Uncharted 2. It's by far my favorite co-op experience. But because they started focusing so much on the competitive stuff, I lost interest and haven't played it in a while. Have they done similar tweaks to the co-op game?Nothing really. They added a new co-op mode siege in a DLC. You have to stay in circle and fight off bad guys until the 10th round. As for Double Points weekend. Max $ value was upped to 250K per users for co-op only. Rest of MP was capped at 150K.

Boston Litigator

06-05-10, 10:53 PM

anyone else have a problem with this game recently? I put my disk and press start and the dagger appears and just spins and spins and spins

dogdoctor

06-05-10, 11:34 PM

not recently, I would try deleting game data and reinstalling. Some folks had MP issues after the 1.08 update and needed to do the same to fix so it's worth a shot.

Bazylik

06-07-10, 09:53 AM

wtf is up with co-op, I'm set to play at hard difficulty and I always end up playing easy, I wanna finally beat hard mode so I can start crush mode.

Some kind of pub would be great for co-op mode but that's beside the point.

jasnmb

06-07-10, 10:20 AM

Are you able to play every level via online co-op, and do you get credit towards getting the trophies for beating the game on hard, crushing, etc. when you play co-op?

Sorry, I'm kind of late to the party with this game (as usual) and my search skills are failing me this morning.

KingShorty

06-07-10, 11:06 AM

drummernrg

06-07-10, 12:21 PM

...with co-op, I'm set to play at hard difficulty and I always end up playing easy, I wanna finally beat hard mode so I can start crush mode.

Best bet is to party up with 1-2 of your friends and complete it as a custom game on the setting of your choice. Custom games count towards trophies in co-op objective.

Some kind of pub would be great for co-op mode but that's beside the point.

Put on your bluetooth mic and party up! I've met a few fellow AVSers playing U2:AT multiplayer, it's been a blast.

drummernrg

06-07-10, 12:28 PM

anyone else have a problem with this game recently? I put my disk and press start and the dagger appears and just spins and spins and spins

I updated to 1.08 and played a few games last night, some of the Naughty Dog developers were playing online. I missed playing with them, though.

drummernrg

06-07-10, 12:30 PM

Are you able to play every level via online co-op...

Sorry, I'm kind of late to the party with this game (as usual) and my search skills are failing me this morning.

Welcome, I'm biased, but I've loved U2:AT multiplayer and reached level 57. I've contributed some expansions, clean ups, and polish to:
http://uncharted.wikia.com/wiki/Uncharted_2_Multiplayer
...you might want to peruse that to get up to speed, there is a lot of good info and it could use more.

dogdoctor

06-07-10, 04:08 PM

Welcome, I'm biased, but I've loved U2:AT multiplayer and reached level 57. I've contributed some expansions, clean ups, and polish to:
http://uncharted.wikia.com/wiki/Uncharted_2_Multiplayer
...you might want to peruse that to get up to speed, there is a lot of good info and it could use more.You going to hit 60? I still need a lot of MP trophies...mostly stemming from co-op and DM/Elimination.

drummernrg

06-07-10, 06:46 PM

60 - I think it is a nice perk to see that black X over the player heads, next to their PSN ID? I don't know if I will ever accomplish it without more double cash weekends, though.

I'm working on my backlog of other single player games, but maybe I'll sign in to see who is on and slowly work towards 58 when I see the usual suspects online. :~)

I'll be happy to help you get some medals. I think I'm at 71% of the DLC medals and I've completed all of the co-op, but I really enjoy that mode. We need to figure out how to wrangle out 250K from it on Crushing. The only hint I've seen is that you need to use the dropped weapons from the enemies to increase the points you get per kill and maximize the medals (revival, treasure hunter, purple heart, etc.)

Bazylik

06-08-10, 09:13 AM

Best bet is to party up with 1-2 of your friends and complete it as a custom game on the setting of your choice. Custom games count towards trophies in co-op objective.

Put on your bluetooth mic and party up! I've met a few fellow AVSers playing U2:AT multiplayer, it's been a blast.

Good idea. Also if you create a custom game is it only for your buddies or can you throw it out there and wait for random peeps to join in? I never tried custom game for some reason...

drummernrg

06-08-10, 03:55 PM

A custom game requires you to invite people to join it before you can start, the people need to have already added you as a friend and be online in the Uncharted 2 Multiplayer lobby.

Rare96ws6

06-15-10, 07:43 PM

To get the 250k in co-op, you have to kill each and revive each other over and over to get a bunch of "medic" medals. That is how I have seen people get high $$ in co-op. I go for points when I play co-op and usually end up with 50-60k a match which is fine with me. I did most of my leveling in co-op, so I am in the top 275 world wide. I just hit level 58 and want to push to 60 as quickly as possible. For those that don't klnow, it takes about as much experience($$) to get from level 58-60 as it did to get from level 1-57!!! Insane;)
I have most of the medals from the DLC's but still need half of the "protectorate" medals from plunder matches, a bunch of Tricky's" and some "BBQ's" to get 100%. I think I am at 91%, but want to get 100%
During the week I play in the mornings, but on weekends I play all night if I can. If some of you want to hook up to collect medals in co-op or competitive modes, hit me up. My psn is Rare96ws6

dogdoctor

06-26-10, 01:03 PM

New Releases:

Accidentally Released 6/25:

http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/multiplayer_level_cap_increase_live/
Along with launching “The Lab” for the weekend this morning, many of you noticed that the level cap has been increased beyond 60 (X). This now makes the maximum level attainable currently in UNCHARTED 2 is now 80 and is designated by an in-game badge which uses the roman numerals XXX. You can check out the full set of level badges on our Flickr photostream.

Each level beyond 60 requires accumulating $15,000,000 in cash to level up and that stays consistent throughout 61 to 80. That means you will need to accumulate a total of $362,965,500 to hit level 80.

If you had already hit level 60 (and hopefully kept playing) – there is some good news for you. With the level cap raise, you’ll automatically be brought up to the level that is appropriate to the total cash you’ve accumulated up to that point. That means you could come back to your profile to a higher level in recognition of all the hard work you’ve been putting in playing UNCHARTED 2 multiplayer, even though you had already hit level 60.

Increasing the maximum level has let us create a couple rewards to the players who have continued to play multiplayer. Hitting level 70 (XX) and level 80 (XXX) will unlock one new villain skin at each of those levels for purchase within the in-game store – Blaine is available at level 70 (XX) and Dutch is available at level 80 (XXX). We’ve also put up screenshots of both skins on our Flickr photostream. You may recognize both characters are mercenary characters from UNCHARTED: Drake’s Fortune, which we’ve updated to UNCHARTED 2 models and graphical standards specifically for the level cap increase. Blaine and Dutch are completely exclusive rewards to players who gain levels 70 and 80 respectively.

In addition, later today we’ll be increasing the per-match cash cap to $75,000 to make reaching these highest levels just a bit more within reach. We’ve also got plenty of Double Cash weekends planned for the future.

On a side note… as far as rising the level cap without warning – we had originally scheduled to make this change next week and planned to give everyone an ample heads-up about the level cap increase. Unfortunately, due to some miscommunication, that was not the case and the update went out without any warning.

I’m not thrilled that I wasn’t able to communicate this change to our community ahead of time – I know that being surprised by something significant like this doesn’t feel good and can really feel unfair. The bottom line is that you should know as much as you can – and that we’re able to provide – about any game changes or updates before they happen as soon as possible. I’ll be doing all I can to make sure we don’t surprise you again.

And for you World Cup Fans (6/25):

http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/support_your_team_in_uncharted_2_mp/

The next time you log in to UNCHARTED 2 multiplayer you’ll notice that your character selection choices in your multiplayer profile have changed significantly – but only for a limited time… more on that later. You have a smaller pool of characters skins to choose from, but you’ll have 16 different versions of Drake and Flynn to choose from in the Heroes and Villians selections. Those 16 versions represent the countries whose soccer teams have made it to the second round in South Africa as of today.

Since we’ve been seeing so many displays of team support across the Internet and on forums, we thought it would be cool to extend that show of fan support within UNCHARTED 2 multiplayer.

So for a limited time – for two weeks or until about Monday, July 12, 2010 – you’ll be able to choose Heroes and Villians skins with the following country uniforms:

Uruguay
Mexico
Argentina
South Korea
United States
England
Germany
Ghana
Netherlands
Japan
Paraguay
Slovakia
Brazil
Portugal
Spain
Chile

In order to have all these characters available, we’ve had to temporarily remove some of the characters from the selection screen. We’ve done this to ensure that all the characters that are available through paid DLC are still available.

There is one piece of bad news here though – the newly added characters of Blaine and Dutch will be among those that will be temporarily inactive for the next couple of weeks.

I wanted to close out with some good news related to “The Lab” and the level cap increase, both of which went active earlier today. Along with this live update for the characters, we’ve also removed the Pistole from the “The Lab” so that “Sniper Extermination” is exactly that – Dragon Sniper only matches. A global per-match cash cap increase to $75,000 will also take effect when you log in next to multiplayer.

I’ll be trying to put in as much time playing “The Lab” as I can – I hope to see some of you online.

eddy_winds

06-26-10, 04:24 PM

UNCHARTED 2 is now 80

Insane ;)

musick

06-27-10, 02:49 AM

if adding an update means "error syncing models" messages I say no thanks

eddy_winds

06-27-10, 10:11 AM

update takes 20-30 minutes

if adding an update means "error syncing models" messages I say no thanks

Little slow this weekend
;)

KingShorty

06-27-10, 11:31 AM

Nice to see Naughty Dog show some respect for the World Cup. They've just gained some points in my book (because we all know it matters!)

Boston Litigator

06-27-10, 06:33 PM

if adding an update means "error syncing models" messages I say no thanks
been getting this all day!

ugabuga

06-27-10, 06:54 PM

Hey guys just got back into coop. Almost to 53... looking to get a run of good games add me PSN_ID - hooter_hunter

Scottyb09

06-28-10, 12:42 PM

I'm just getting around (finally!) to playing the single player of this game. I finished the train level last night - WOW! Easily one of the best moments I've ever had in gaming :)

Boston Litigator

06-29-10, 09:24 PM

I am so upset with Naughty Dog...this is my favorite single player game of all time...the multi is so, so, but now I can't get on..nothing but error syncing models!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dogdoctor

06-29-10, 11:01 PM

have you tried the delete the game data (not saved data) and redownload technique?

Boston Litigator

06-30-10, 09:29 AM

have you tried the delete the game data (not saved data) and redownload technique?

I tried everything..been researching this for a couple of days..very upsetting

eddy_winds

07-18-10, 01:16 PM

July 23 – 26
Grenades Only

Boom.

will_blueprint

07-19-10, 11:41 AM

I have been having the exact same symptoms/problems, any new news? i thought it was my PS3 going bad

I tried everything..been researching this for a couple of days..very upsetting

will_blueprint

07-19-10, 12:22 PM

I have been having the exact same symptoms/problems, any new news? i thought it was my PS3 going bad

here's something i found, going to try it if i can make it home for lunch

http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/Uncharted-Series-PS3/POSSIBLE-Uncharted-Freeze-Fix-Post-Firmware-3-0-Update/m-p/43571663?view=by_date_ascending

eddy_winds

08-02-10, 11:27 AM

Title Update 1.09 was released in all regions on Wednesday, July 28, 2010

Title Update 1.09 includes the following:

* Changes made to multiplayer character skin system to allow for voices to be included with future skins
* Made changes to character game mechanics to prevent players from using exploits
* Fixed ability for players to “super throw” the treasure in Plunder matches
* Cash awarded per kill in Elimination has been increased to $750 per kill
* Enabled the ability for Naughty Dog to easily alter the amount of cash earned for individual Medals on a playlist or gametype basis and per-kill

Thanks to some of the changes above, we’ll be issuing a LiveData update that will rescale Medal cash awards in Objective games ONLY. For matches which fall under the Objective modes, cash for individual and kill-based medals have been decreased in value, while cash for Objective based medals have been increased as follows:

* Tip Off – $1,000
* Captured – $4,000
* That’s Embarrassing – $10,000
* Protectorate – $2,000
* No Cigar – $2,000
* Drop It – $1,000
* None Shall Pass – $5,000
* Expansionist – $5,000

naughtydog_update_109 (http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/title_update_109/)

Scottyb09

08-02-10, 03:06 PM

Finished the single player campaign last week. Hands down the best action/adventure game I've every played - and that's saying a lot :)

drummernrg

08-02-10, 08:08 PM

Welcome to the fold, brother. Are you ready for multiplayer online now?

drummernrg

08-02-10, 08:34 PM

Title Update 1.09

Put on Deposit, score five captures with a shut-out (to get the "That Was Embarrassing!" medal), and you'll get at least 60K in a Plunder match: that's most of the way to the $75,000 cap.

Plunder is much more focused on the objectives as a result, but the camping at the treasure chest has increased, too, since "No Cigar!" is worth a lot. The matches have been more work when the teams are closely matched. Still, it feels weird to get $2 a kill and the Badges of Honor don't really count for much, so I've started leaving them off.

Naughty Dog is hinting they might rebalance the cash rewards for medals and objectives in other game modes.

Let's see, two other stories to share:

1) The Lab: Grenades Only -- Deathmatch for 15 minutes with unlimited ammo. I may live in California, but I'm not used to the continually shaking earthquakes during game play. It was lots of fun and pure mayhem, but I couldn't play it for more than a few matches in a row.

2) Played a team of mostly top 200 leader board players in Plunder (one was level 48, the others were all above level 62), they were a pain since they really covered the map with deadly lines of fire from everywhere. It was a military like exercise in outflanking and precise shooting against us. When some of the teammates started adjusting the game and bringing them down with kills, I think two quit since the KDR was changing drastically.

We lost the plunder 2-3 after losing one player early and they lost two players later during the match. I doubt everyone had network connection errors, but it's not impossible. Still, a level 62+ was using Situational Awareness...sigh.

I still can't believe I'm playing this game on and off! :~)

eddy_winds

08-06-10, 10:26 AM

August has only two weekends of “The Lab” in store for all of us

We hope the last two months of “The Lab” have been fun for all of you – from 2 vs. 2 Team Deathmatch to Plunder with pistols only to the explosive chaos of Grenades Only. We’ve been having a blast ourselves – no pun intended.

If you’re new to “The Lab,” welcome! “The Lab” is a special playlist we will be running for a limited time on designated weekends, roughly every other weekend. You can access “The Lab” playlist within the set of playlists found in Matchmaking in UNCHARTED 2 multiplayer. During each weekend “The Lab” is active, we’ll be running a specialized playlist featuring one or more custom-tuned gametype variations from the tons of variables we can tweak in our multiplayer gameplay settings.

We’ll also be hosting a new thread for every event on the Naughty Dog community forums to get your feedback and thoughts on each one of our “The Lab” events.

August has only two weekends of “The Lab” in store for all of us. They are:

August 6 – 9
Co-Op Crushing
Think you’ve mastered all of our Co-op modes? Give this episode of “The Lab” a try – we’ve lowered the health to Crushing levels in a selection of Co-op Objective and Co-op Arena maps.

August 20 – 23
No Power Weapons
Can you still dominate with the basic tools of UNCHARTED 2 multiplayer? During this weekend of “The Lab” we’ll be running Team Deathmatch but you’ll discover that all power weapons are absent on the selected maps. That means no weapons like the M-32 Hammer, GAU-19, SAS-12, Pistole, and more, will be available for pickup.

/the_lab_august_2010_schedule/ (http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/the_lab_august_2010_schedule/)