noahjwhite
12-01-08, 08:28 PM
I'm looking to upgrade my old Vizio in my living room. Unfortunately it seems that ALL TV's these days have glossy screens. Why don't they make matt anymore?... ugg.
Glare is a big issue here... more so than superb picture quality. There is no point in having inky blacks if all I can see is my face staring back at me.
Is there a current generation model that has excellent anti-glare?
Thanks in Advance!
Yes, several. What is your price and size range?
RandyWalters
12-02-08, 10:09 AM
I'm looking to upgrade my old Vizio in my living room. Unfortunately it seems that ALL TV's these days have glossy screens. Why don't they make matt anymore?... ugg.
Glare is a big issue here... more so than superb picture quality. There is no point in having inky blacks if all I can see is my face staring back at me.
Is there a current generation model that has excellent anti-glare?Are you talking about LCD TVs or Plasma TVs? Virtually all LCD TVs have matte screens while all the current Plasmas have semi-reflective screens. Samsung makes some LCDs with reflective glossy screens that are more reflective than Plasma TVs. The current Panasonic and Pioneer Plasmas have pretty effective anti-reflective screens but they're still more reflective than matte LCDs. LCDs also have problems with too much light - if you have a big bright window behind your head you'll see a huge glowing white blob on the screen that washes out the image (i have this problem with one of my LCD TVs).
zkaudio
12-02-08, 01:02 PM
all the lcd's have matte screens? I was under the assumption that the xbr was one of the only ones left with matte screen on the upper quality spectrum.
noahjwhite
12-03-08, 11:25 AM
Like I said before... I haven't seen ANY LCD's with matt screens. Maybe my definition of matt isn't correct? I don't know. When I look at the screens at best buy every single one is glossy.
Size I am looking for is 35-46inches and i would like to keep it under $1500
Thanks
RandyWalters
12-03-08, 03:29 PM
Like I said before... I haven't seen ANY LCD's with matt screens. Maybe my definition of matt isn't correct? I don't know. When I look at the screens at best buy every single one is glossy. You didn't say LCD anywhere in your original post :rolleyes:
Matte is like the regular non-reflective screens that the typical LCD PC monitor has so your terminology is correct. It's been a few months since i've looked at LCDs at the stores but just about all of em have matte screens. I haven't seen the new Sony with it's reflective screen, just a few Samsungs. Other than that they all have matte screens at my two local BBs and one CC store, as well as Costco and Target.
purumpum
12-03-08, 03:47 PM
Both Samsung A550 and A630 models have matte screens
RobbyTV
12-03-08, 09:47 PM
the Pioneer Plasma is one of the best because of the single glass design and special coating. Better than the A650 Samsung LCD TV's!
RobbyTV
12-03-08, 09:49 PM
I noticed that the colors look so much better on the non-matt computer monitor screens. LG had one and Gateway had one. who cares about reflections when the colors look so much better with the Gloss screen.
You didn't say LCD anywhere in your original post :rolleyes:
Matte is like the regular non-reflective screens that the typical LCD PC monitor has so your terminology is correct. It's been a few months since i've looked at LCDs at the stores but just about all of em have matte screens. I haven't seen the new Sony with it's reflective screen, just a few Samsungs. Other than that they all have matte screens at my two local BBs and one CC store, as well as Costco and Target.
gdog2004
12-04-08, 08:44 AM
I noticed that the colors look so much better on the non-matt computer monitor screens. LG had one and Gateway had one. who cares about reflections when the colors look so much better with the Gloss screen.
Who cares that the colors look so much better with the gloss screen when all you can see is the lamp/window behind you in anything other than a pitch black room ?
Who cares that the colors look so much better with the gloss screen when all you can see is the lamp/window behind you in anything other than a pitch black room ? the glossy screen on my laptop can be a real pita -- and worse when the cause of the feeling of eye strain isn't realized. BUT i can easily tilt the laptop's screen or move the whole unit a bit to end or decrease the very clear reflections.
with a 52" or so LCD that would be impossible without a motorized articulating arm wall mount, which could adversely affect pq from angle viewing problems.
my experience with the laptop has convinced me that i could never live with a shiny screen such as on most samsungs.
TVbc
Mr. Hanky
12-04-08, 06:49 PM
These are not good arguments for matte screens. It only underscores the necessity of configuring an appropriate environment to extract the most performance out of any given display (matte screen or not). If you got a lamp or window that would show up on a glossy screen, then you would simply have a diffuse highlight occurring in the same scenario with a matte screen. Either way, you won't be enjoying an unaffected rendition of what the display is showing, nor will you be experiencing the ultimate performance (CR, color, inky blacks, etc) that such a display is technically capable of producing.
So it is a moot argument. You will need to arrange your viewing environment appropriately, regardless of the nature of the display. I'm not saying you have to go to extreme measures just to accommodate your display (like a thoroughly blacked out room), but keeping reasonable expectations on what a display will accomplish in whatever manner you have installed it in a given room is still a fundamental strategy.
Fanaticalism
12-04-08, 11:25 PM
These are not good arguments for matte screens. It only underscores the necessity of configuring an appropriate environment to extract the most performance out of any given display (matte screen or not). If you got a lamp or window that would show up on a glossy screen, then you would simply have a diffuse highlight occurring in the same scenario with a matte screen. Either way, you won't be enjoying an unaffected rendition of what the display is showing, nor will you be experiencing the ultimate performance (CR, color, inky blacks, etc) that such a display is technically capable of producing.
So it is a moot argument. You will need to arrange your viewing environment appropriately, regardless of the nature of the display. I'm not saying you have to go to extreme measures just to accommodate your display (like a thoroughly blacked out room), but keeping reasonable expectations on what a display will accomplish in whatever manner you have installed it in a given room is still a fundamental strategy.
This is the first, informative, and understanding post I have read yet.
Most just do not understand that either a matte screen, or non-matte screen, is going to negatively affect the PQ. A matte screen will diffuse the reflection, which in a very intense situation, will wash the picture out, truning blacks into grays, and pastelizing colors; while a non-matte will create a glare, making portions of the screen unviewable.
Either way, there are some sacrifices to be made.