Ok guys, I bought R2 recently,haven't opened it yet.I never played the original,was on my list of games but with the backlog I had,it just got lost in the shuffle.
Moving on,I have only recently started to read up on fallout 3,and my interest for it has risen dramatically. I've purchased a number of games this past month,and I really do want Fallout.The only unopened games I have is R2 and Gears 2(which I'm definitely keeping)....should I hold onto R2 and pick up Fallout a bit later,or should I get rid of it now,get Fallout,and then pick it up R2 again in a few months?
I guess I'm asking is,which one is the more MUST PLAY NOW game?? I'm asking on this forum because R2 is of course a PS3 game,but I would be getting the 360 Fallout as I've heard it's the better version.I should also say that I'm a fan of both shooters and RPGs,but I've not played a good RPG in a while and I do have Gears 2 to keep me busy on the shooter side of things.

Resistance 2 in my opinion.

Fallout 3.

Since you have another shooter to fall back on, get Fallout 3. You can put in 100 hours and not see the whole map. If you find yourself burning out in the Wasteland, take a break for a couple days and play Gears. I think Resistance 2 will also fall in price, or at least we'll see plenty available for trade, in a couple months.

Fallout 3 has been the most disappointing game I've played all year. It really didn't live up to the hype. Its not a shooter in any way, its a RPG. With any RPG, you have to have a good story and character development. This game had potential and lacked both, you get to know virtually nothing about your character so as the game goes on you just don't care. Great example is MGS4, Solid Snake is almost like a live person. You wanna keep playing to learn more about him and see what happens next. Fallout 3 is just full of random quests that has nothing to do with your character, after about 15 hours or so the game has gotten stale and lost my interest. I just don't care what happens next. Besides the VATS combat, items, equipment and pip boy are all just clunky. Sure with only few hours in the game seems great with nice graphics but put some real time in to it and gets old fast.

Resistance 2!!!

Fallout 3 has been the most disappointing game I've played all year. It really didn't live up to the hype. Its not a shooter in any way, its a RPG. With any RPG, you have to have a good story and character development. This game had potential and lacked both, you get to know virtually nothing about your character so as the game goes on you just don't care. Great example is MGS4, Solid Snake is almost like a live person. You wanna keep playing to learn more about him and see what happens next. Fallout 3 is just full of random quests that has nothing to do with your character, after about 15 hours or so the game has gotten stale and lost my interest. I just don't care what happens next. Besides the VATS combat, items, equipment and pip boy are all just clunky. Sure with only few hours in the game seems great with nice graphics but put some real time in to it and gets old fast.
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this guy really has no idea what he's talking about. know nothing of your character? really? :rolleyes:
this is the single most asinine description of fallout i've ever seen. the only part he got right is that it's an RPG, not a shooter.
you'd be wise ignore every word of his post.

it really depends on what type of game you prefer. R2 is another sci-fi first person shoot 'em up with a single player campaign that's roughly 8-12 long and can easily be finished under a week. some people live for these types of games so if that's your type of game, you'd be wise to pick R2.
i'm still trudging through the multiplayer but i don't like that it always kicks you out to the main screen after a match. R2 follows the same formula that many shooters are taking now - XP, perks, leveling up... much different from R1 as it feels like they tried to conform too much to be like COD and other FPS's.

Fallout is a free roaming RPG and the way you play is totally up to you. the reason there is no character development is because YOU are the character. if you want to be bad you can be bad, if you want to be good, you can be good and the story adjusts accordingly but also has XP, leveling up and perks. if you don't need to have your hand held throughout a game like the reviewer above, fallout is amazingly deep, open and immersive and the Washington D.C. wasteland is huge and incredibly detailed. both outside and inside of buildings. some amazing side quests and a nice long main quest. from the guys who made oblivion.

i put in over 100 hours into fallout from it release until last week. i started R2 thanksgiving night and finished it sunday. i started the multiplayer last night and am not totally sold on it... yet.

go with what you prefer:
R2 - short campaign, online multiplayer
fallout - very long, non-linear game that you play at your pace.
having played both games, i think fallout is by far the better story, and it's not even debateable. but if you enjoy online MP, R2 may give you more post game enjoyment after the short campaign.

r2 rental
fallout 3, like any of their games, purchase.

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this guy really has no idea what he's talking about. know nothing of your character? really? :rolleyes:
this is the single most asinine description of fallout i've ever seen. the only part he got right is that it's an RPG, not a shooter.
you'd be wise ignore every word of his post.

it really depends on what type of game you prefer. R2 is another sci-fi first person shoot 'em up with a single player campaign that's roughly 8-12 long and can easily be finished under a week. some people live for these types of games so if that's your type of game, you'd be wise to pick R2.
i'm still trudging through the multiplayer but i don't like that it always kicks you out to the main screen after a match. R2 follows the same formula that many shooters are taking now - XP, perks, leveling up... much different from R1 as it feels like they tried to conform too much to be like COD and other FPS's.

Fallout is a free roaming RPG and the way you play is totally up to you. the reason there is no character development is because YOU are the character. if you want to be bad you can be bad, if you want to be good, you can be good and the story adjusts accordingly but also has XP, leveling up and perks. if you don't need to have your hand held throughout a game like the reviewer above, fallout is amazingly deep, open and immersive and the Washington D.C. wasteland is huge and incredibly detailed. both outside and inside of buildings. some amazing side quests and a nice long main quest. from the guys who made oblivion.

i put in over 100 hours into fallout from it release until last week. i started R2 thanksgiving night and finished it sunday. i started the multiplayer last night and am not totally sold on it... yet.

go with what you prefer:
R2 - short campaign, online multiplayer
fallout - very long, non-linear game that you play at your pace.
having played both games, i think fallout is by far the better story, and it's not even debateable. but if you enjoy online MP, R2 may give you more post game enjoyment after the short campaign.

Well said and my thoughts about both games.

As for me,....Fallout 3 would be my choice.

Saying that Fallout does not have character development is a joke. You start out the game as a friggin baby! You actually grow up into an adult while playing the game. If you can't follow this then maybe you should stick with your FPS games.

Also, I still haven't gotten tired of the VATS animations. I love watching it!

Saying that Fallout does not have character development is a joke. You start out the game as a friggin baby! You actually grow up into an adult while playing the game. If you can't follow this then maybe you should stick with your FPS games.

Also, I still haven't gotten tired of the VATS animations. I love watching it!

don't know about you guys, but i have a toddler and a 1 year old... so when that first scene as a baby occured i did not listen to my father, i put all of the toys that were in the toybox on the ground, i jumped on the bed, and i walked away from him when he asked me to follow him. :D:D

Fallout 3 is one of the most engrossing games i have played in a long time. 5 hours will just fly by. It is an epic experience...
R2 was a good game but not a great game, The SP was good the online coop is GREAT, but the comp. is good but not great compared to all the other online comp. games (halo, battlefield, socom, etc..)

Fallout 3 has been the most disappointing game I've played all year. It really didn't live up to the hype. Its not a shooter in any way, its a RPG. With any RPG, you have to have a good story and character development. This game had potential and lacked both, you get to know virtually nothing about your character so as the game goes on you just don't care. Great example is MGS4, Solid Snake is almost like a live person. You wanna keep playing to learn more about him and see what happens next. Fallout 3 is just full of random quests that has nothing to do with your character, after about 15 hours or so the game has gotten stale and lost my interest. I just don't care what happens next. Besides the VATS combat, items, equipment and pip boy are all just clunky. Sure with only few hours in the game seems great with nice graphics but put some real time in to it and gets old fast.

Joke post. Good lord, I hope so.

I agree with everything So's your face said about Fallout3. You really can't get much more immersed in a character than you do in this game. He's exactly right, you actually become the character in a lot of ways. The character you get to know is you! Choose good or bad, choose direction, choose you abilities...choose from start to finish. You can even choose how long you want the game to be! I invested the same amount of time that so's your face did, even though I didn't do all the same side quests (I missed the tree people!), and at the end I was happy to have been able to play the game exactly my way.

Contrast Fallout3 with Gears2 (which I'm 3/4 of the way through), and talk about losing all your choices! I don't think I've played a more linear game, or bumped into more invisible walls than I have in Gears2. I imagine R2 being very similar to Gears in that way. Now, having said that, I'm actually a little relieved to be plowing through Gears without having to think about much. (Or anything, really.) Fallout3 exhausted me near the end with choices...I know now I just needed a bit of a break, because I feel like I really wanna go back and complete a few more quests...but I can also understand how some people could prefer to have the game do everything for you except kill things. So, choices or no choices, is maybe what you have to decide between.

Another choice, of course, is if you want multiplayer, or not. If you like multiplayer more because it extends the life of your game, you might actually get more time out of Fallout3. You also asked about a NOW game, however....and I might actually suggest R2 being the way to go for that. Fallout will be here when you want it. R2, on the other hand, because of it's online component, as with all online games, the longer you give other players to play and get better, the harder it is to catch up sometimes. (Unless, of course, you're naturally good at online shooters.) Now might also be the best time to catch your friends interested in going through the multiplayer campaign with you. Wait too long and those friends will likely move on to something else. Personally, I've got enough FPS's to "deal" with, and I'm not so interested in jumping into another one, at this point. Maybe after COD5...or even some Gears2.

As for Fallout being a better game on the 360....I played it on the 360, and I never thought I was getting a better game than the PS3 version. So's your face and I pretty much ran through Fallout at the same time, and I don't think he was short-changed in any way. However, there is the 360 DLC coming soon...So the 360 version does have that (rather large, I suppose) advantage. Not sure what the word is on DLC coming for the PS3. I imagine it would come eventually.

Ok guys,think I've been convinced. I'll exchange R2 for Fallout and pick it up a few months from now when I've gone through my backlog of games.Thanks for the advice!

KESS: I'm actually not too worried about the catching up part as far as the online goes.I adapt fairly quickly and I'm probably an intermediate level FPS gamer.It really comes down to,I've read alot about Fallout recently,and combined with what I've read in this thread,has just whet my appetite further.It just sounds like more of a unique gaming experience.R2 is just another shooter in the long line of shooters,albeit I'm sure a very well done one. I have both Gears of War,Halo 3,Bioshock,I'm itching for something I can sink my teek into.As I said above,I think I'll go with Fallout now,maybe pick up R2 in the new year.

don't know about you guys, but i have a toddler and a 1 year old... so when that first scene as a baby occured i did not listen to my father, i put all of the toys that were in the toybox on the ground, i jumped on the bed, and i walked away from him when he asked me to follow him. :D:D

Geez, can you please use spoiler tags. The stuff that happens in the nursery pretty much gives away the whole rest of the game! :rolleyes:






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Geez, can you please use spoiler tags. The stuff that happens in the nursery pretty much gives away the whole rest of the game! :rolleyes:


not the whole game, just the code for the...

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not the whole game, just the code for the...

Shhhhhhh!! God forbid you give away something that would actually help someone finish the game without having to resort to Google or Game FAQ!! :)

Who woulda known that you were supposed to actually pay attention to things in the nursery! And not just be a disobedient brat with your Dad for some fun!

I've been playing video games for a long time, not just casually, but I truly appreciate a well made game. That said, fallout is one of the best games I've ever played in my life. Top 10 easily, maybe top 5.

I'd also have to put Fallout 3 way ahead of R2 - which, at best, is a mediocre shooter.

r2 by a mile. i am not a rpg guy.

r2 by a mile. i am not a rpg guy.

But the OP said he was a fan of both FPS and RPG :confused:

But the OP said he was a fan of both FPS and RPG :confused:

He also said "if you had to choose"

Honestly, I would choose both, which is exactly what I have done. Both are very good but different games. If you are looking for an engrossing SP experience, choose Fallout 3 first. If you want MP, choose R2 first.

Ok guys,think I've been convinced. I'll exchange R2 for Fallout and pick it up a few months from now when I've gone through my backlog of games.Thanks for the advice!
KESS: I'm actually not too worried about the catching up part as far as the online goes.I adapt fairly quickly and I'm probably an intermediate level FPS gamer.It really comes down to,I've read alot about Fallout recently,and combined with what I've read in this thread,has just whet my appetite further.It just sounds like more of a unique gaming experience.R2 is just another shooter in the long line of shooters,albeit I'm sure a very well done one. I have both Gears of War,Halo 3,Bioshock,I'm itching for something I can sink my teek into.As I said above,I think I'll go with Fallout now,maybe pick up R2 in the new year.


^ is this even a debate anymore??

I had the same dilema. I got R2 and loved the single player, and think the co-op is amazing. The competitive multi-player isn't fun in my eyes, though. Fallout 3 was going to be $40 at Amazon on black friday, so to help me decide whether or not to buy it, I borrowed Fallout 3 from a friend (360 version), and am still only 3 hours into it. It didn't make me want to buy it, even for $40. I like RPG's too, but I'm actually kind of bored. I thought it would be a lot better than it is, based on all the hype. One of my favorite games on the 360 is Mass Effect, so I was hoping Fallout 3 would capture me in the same way...but it hasn't. VATS isn't as entertaining as many claim; and I've experienced some noticable glitches that annoyed me. Gears 2 is coming in the mail tomorrow, and Fallout will be put on the back-burner for Gears and R2 co-op.

i didn't know VATS was supposed to be entertaining...

i used it to kill things strategically, not be entertained.

All major aspects of a game must be entertaining to me; why else would I play it? In my limited gameplay, I got bored by this strategic slowed-down attack system that so many, reviewers and players alike, have praised.

i didn't know VATS was supposed to be entertaining...

i used it to kill things strategically, not be entertained.

Resistance 2 is the same as every other FPS, and they need to stop, unless they can actually create one with a fun engine like HALO.

Fallout 3 is great because you can interact with so many things.

My understanding is that Fallout 3 is recycled Oblivion with some tweaks. So if you really liked Oblivion, you'll probably like Fallout 3.

Personally, I would go with Resistance 2. Resistance 2 is one of the best shooters I've ever played. Looks great, plays great and the co-op is one of the best shooter co-op modes I've ever played. I know you think Gears is the must keep, but I personally felt that R2 > GoW2. It's essentially the same game as Gears 1 with the exception of Horde mode. Story was cheesy. I kept checking the box wondering if I had wandering into a Starship Troopers game.

Resistance 2 however kept my interest in the game throught the whole thing, there's some amazing battle sequences in that game. My biggest beef with R2? They dropped the weapon wheel that was a staple with the insomniac games and opted for the two weapon system that seems to be the 'thing' now. If you liked Resistance you'll like Resistance 2.

My understanding is that Fallout 3 is recycled Oblivion with some tweaks...
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your "understanding" couldn't be futher from the truth...

Wow,I didn't think my query would cause such a spirited debate.Well as luck would have it,my xmas plans have changed(long story) so I'll have some extra dough.I may just keep R2 and get Fallout 3,but no more games till new year!! I still need money for food,rent,all those annoying essentials :D

To each his own, obviously. Didn't like Fallout 3 at all.

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your "understanding" couldn't be futher from the truth...

Well, I actually hope you are right. I think Oblivion was good, but not great (I'm actually playing it right now). I have F3 but I've not even cracked the case.

My approach to buying games is as follows: Games that have a single player only campaign, I buy when I get a 'great deal' on it. The reason is, the game will not change 2 years from now. If you never played Oblivion, you could play it today and enjoy it the same as the person who played it 2 years ago. The other advantage is that there will likely be a wealth of information in 6 months, helping you with the choices. Oblivion had a huge Wiki, with an abundance of stats, and guides to help build your character. I personally like some of that help, especially when leveling up and appling points to attributes, etc. Same thing apllied to quest items, and loot. It took me a while to really understand how to 'efficiantly' level up in Oblivion, and the Wiki really helped. I am sure the same will apply to Fallout3. (I actually bought Fallout3 for $39.99 as a black Friday deal on Amazon, so that was my 'great deal').

With regards to R2 (OR Gears 2), the hype is now, the millions of people playing will be now, and playing co-op, playing with friends will be a lot easier now. You will likely find people playing in 6 months, but with all shooters, the larger numbers of people will be now, upon release, until something better comes along. Already you will see more players playing CoD:WaW, and in a few months you will then see the migration to Killzone2. Thus if you wanted to play 8-player co-op, or find rooms with casual people, it will be harder in the future.

Thus, my recommendation is to play R2 now, and when you are looking for that change, then get Fallout 3 (but if you can find a good deal, buy Fallout3) as you already have R2. The problem is that something new is always popping up on both consoles (currently I am actively playing Gears2, Team Fortress2, CoD:WaW, and I just picked up Left 4 Dead. I have been itching to pick up R2, but I know I just do not have time, as the other time is going to Fable 2, and now Fallout3. I still want to play R6V2, but hardly any friends play. This is on top of a backlog of about 30 games that I have ready to play. Too many good games, not enough time.....

This is on top of a backlog of about 30 games that I have ready to play. Too many good games, not enough time.....

That's my problem as well.Just this month alone,I've bought Lego Batman and Bourne Conspiracy via amazon,Gears 2 and R2 via Gamestop, and used copies of Bioshock,Unchartered,Dead Space,and Fifa.I just moved to the UK and getting my TV and things sorted out,so I haven't even played ANY of these yet. And now Fallout has my interest.

Well, I actually hope you are right. I think Oblivion was good, but not great (I'm actually playing it right now). I have F3 but I've not even cracked the case.

oblivion was so good, so big and soooo deep it's ridiculous. i love that game but it was such a time consuming game.
fallout is much more fast paced than oblivion and you don't have nearly the diversity in creatures you interact with, nor the supernatural stuff i.e. spells, scrolls, potions... and add to that it's smaller.
the biggest similarity is the layout of the pip-boy to the menu system in oblivion... which isn't a bad thing. but the pip boy idea makes sense in the fallout world.
but the one glaring difference is the length of the games. oblivions main quest takes about as much time as it takes to complete most of the side quests and main quests in fallout. it's not nearly as deep and therefore is a for more accessible RPG to everyone. you can easily beat most quests in a couple hours time. but being in a familiar area such as DC makes it really fun to just explore.
hope you enjoy it as much as oblivion.

anyway... OP- i'm not homering for fallout (well maybe a little :D), it's just pound for pound a meatier game than R2.
that said, my second night of R2 online last night was much better than the first. played co-op for a couple hours with some buddies last night. it was very solid.

[Fallout] is just pound for pound a meatier game than R2...
that said, my second night of R2 online last night was much better than the first. played co-op for a couple hours with some buddies last night. it was very solid.

Are you comparing games, or bowel movements???

Still having a hard time recovering from the Thanksgiving gorge-fest, I take it!

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Are you comparing games, or bowel movements???

Still having a hard time recovering from the Thanksgiving gorge-fest, I take it!

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it's an American metaphor... you wouldn't understand.

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I would choose Fallout 3 just because I am not a big fan of online FPS play. I wore myself out with those on the PC in the 90's. The online games I like playing are fighting games (Street Fighter mainly), sports, driving and adventure games.

My understanding is that Fallout 3 is recycled Oblivion with some tweaks. So if you really liked Oblivion, you'll probably like Fallout 3.
For the record, I'm not much of an RPG fan. I did like Oblivion and put about 40-50 hours but lost interest. Eventually you couldn't keep track of the names of people, places, and items. Everything was a cyrcoefilla or nomeraolla tree. It just blended together for me. I started playing Fallout 3 on PS3 and have been pretty hooked. The game seems a lot "tighter" than I remember oblivion. Interesting characters, story, and its nice to make choices in dialogue. I'd say that Fallout 3 is a better buy at this point. I was more of a PC gamer....with games like Counter Strike and I still play TF2 a ton. I think Oblivion and Fallout 3 are the only RPG games I've played in the last 5 years but I would definitely recommend getting fallout 3 sooner or later.

R2 here because I just don't have the hundreds of hours to invest in RPG's anymore. Ah, the good old FF days.

I would go with Fallout.

I liked R1 better than R2. While it's a great game still, and multiplayer is a lot of fun, Fallout is just an overwhelmingly great game.

And honestly, I hate Fallout 3 sometimes, too. Its bugs and little inconsistencies are frequent enough to be quite an annoyance.

Still, I think Fallout 3 is a great game, despite those problems. If you're one to nitpick things like that (I generally am, but for some reason enjoyed it enough to forgive the shortcomings) then R2 might be for you. Otherwise, I'd say stick with Fallout...

I bought both games. FWIW I actually like Resistance 2 10x more than R1. I know I might be the minority there. It really just depends on what you want more... RPG or Sci-fi shooter. IMO though Fallout 3 is a better value in terms of amount of content and hours of play unless you prefer MP FPS over SP RPG anyway.

R2 is worth a purchase in my opinion, and I even created the official R2 complaint thread. :P

Resistance 2 is the same as every other FPS, and they need to stop, unless they can actually create one with a fun engine like HALO.

You're right, every developer should just clean out their desks and go home if they can't recreate an overrated game like Halo. I guarantee that if Halo came out exclusively on the PC instead of the XBox that no one would be talking about it for more than 2 months. That's how mediocre the series was. Instead, its user market consisted of trash-talkers that live in low-income housing and only bought an XBox because it was the latest "bling". Also, 13 year-old boys.

You're right, every developer should just clean out their desks and go home if they can't recreate an overrated game like Halo. I guarantee that if Halo came out exclusively on the PC instead of the XBox that no one would be talking about it for more than 2 months. That's how mediocre the series was. Instead, its user market consisted of trash-talkers that live in low-income housing and only bought an XBox because it was the latest "bling". Also, 13 year-old boys.

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I'd rent R2 and complete the campaign and try out the other modes to see if they are for you. I really enjoyed the campaign, it has some amazing levels. It is just shorter than I would have liked and doesn't have co-op for that mode.

That said I haven't played much of the 8 player co-op mode to give a fair opinion which many here love.

That said I haven't played much of the 8 player co-op mode to give a fair opinion which many here love.

I do love the MP on R2. The 60 player maps are fun. Even though it is almost too hectic I seem to do better than I do on COD4 for whatever reason.